forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com

Forum Archive Storage => Des Delatorre International Memorial Group Build => Topic started by: Brad Cancian on February 18, 2019, 06:00:37 PM

Title: COMPLETED - 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on February 18, 2019, 06:00:37 PM
Hi all - here's what i'll be building. A few years ago I picked up this Eduard kit on the cheap as a number of bits and pieces were off the sprues and a bit beat up. I've had an idea for a little diorama for this one for quite some time, so I think i'll finally have a go at it.... wish me luck..!

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/thumbnail_IMG_0627_zps71wx3qvm.jpg)

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: RAGIII on February 18, 2019, 08:26:15 PM
Knowing your skills I am sure no luck will be involved. Just Master Modeling!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: pepperman42 on February 19, 2019, 12:13:25 AM
Looking forward to this!!

Steve
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on February 21, 2019, 06:07:03 PM
First clue :)
(sorry for the poor photos, taken on my camera phone...)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC01_zpsbsvlk1y6.jpg)(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC02_zpscdfs0fhf.jpg)

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on February 23, 2019, 07:07:06 PM
A very very basic mock-up of what i'll probably do with this one. 

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC03_zpsx6vnupsc.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC05_zpsrl8dxujh.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC04_zpsjupp3eoi.jpg)

Pretty basic idea - aircraft (with suitable battle damage) forced landing during a dogfight, ends up nose down in a stream. Thinking of calling it something like "The Vanquished" or "You win this time!" or some such... all ideas on how I could put something like this together (or any witty or pithy titles) are welcome...!

I'm looking forward to trying my hand at modelling some terrain and some water effects.

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: pepperman42 on February 23, 2019, 11:59:55 PM
....curse you Snoopy......

Steve
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Alexis on February 24, 2019, 02:39:45 AM
Snoopy strikes again  :) Love your idea Brad , looking forward on this unfolding .




Terri
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: coyotemagic on February 24, 2019, 03:49:46 AM
Very cool idea, Brad!  Looking forward to it.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Gisbod on February 24, 2019, 04:49:15 AM
Looks good already Brad!

Guy
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: xan on February 24, 2019, 07:40:07 AM
Great is it based on a picture?
Xan
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: RAGIII on February 24, 2019, 10:42:07 AM
Very cool idea, Brad!  Looking forward to it.
Cheers,
Bud

I am 100$ with my Amigo  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: gbrivio on February 24, 2019, 02:19:22 PM
Great project, I'm looking forward to the build. Good luck.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on February 24, 2019, 06:01:00 PM
Thanks everyone!

Xan - the concept isn't based off a photograph, but I got the idea many moons ago when I saw Stan Stokes' painting "Gotcha":

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/0073008-Large_zpsshxocflv.jpg)

I've chosen a different aircraft (I am thinking an Albatros painted in markings from mid / late 1918, when they were very much outclassed), a different angle into the water (slightly more dramatic), and a different pilot (to help tell the story), but the basic concept is there in the painting.

There's still every chance at this point that i'll stuff this one up - I've not tried terrain like this before so I am doing a bit of reading to work out how to do it best... i've just spent a small fortune this weekend at my local hobby store buying model railroad supplies as well as various other things, so before I take the concept much further i'll see how well the terrain work goes.

Cheers!

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Gisbod on February 24, 2019, 07:03:16 PM
It’s a great concept Brad,

Makes me want to blatantly copy and have a go myself!

Guy
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Juan on February 25, 2019, 12:52:29 AM
Great concept you envision, looking forward to your treatment.
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Manni on February 25, 2019, 05:55:16 PM
Great idea. I am curious to see the next progress.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on March 11, 2019, 05:19:36 PM
Hi all - I've been progressing with the ground work on this one. My first time at any kind of terrain other than flat ground so feedback is always welcomed.

First up, I used sheet plastic and cut foam to define the shape of the ground work:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC06_zpsyrgyvfm5.jpg)

I then covered this in sculptamold, and scattered various grades of woodland scenics rocks / gravel over the base, secured using mod podge.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC07_zpsvndjjz1c.jpg)

Once this had dried (several days), I base coated with Tamiya gloss black from a rattle can. This helped to produce shadows for the top coats:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC08_zps7jzhhdff.jpg)

Next came some Gunze dark earth, keeping some darker patches for the river bed:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC09_zpsdpha7d3h.jpg)

Then some dry brushing:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC10_zpsxjqc9ynq.jpg)

Next came some long grass and reeds, as well as some small shrubs, again from woodland scenics:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC11_zpsoahje6da.jpg)

And some more dry brushing to get the final effect:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC12_zpsmacmbks6.jpg)

A bit more of an idea of how this might look. You can probably get a feel for where I will have the river level, once I work out the best way to do that without making a huge mess....  :o ??? :-\

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC13_zpslcvp2yr5.jpg)(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC14_zpsd8diybyr.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC15_zpsz4nqsvue.jpg)(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC16_zpsbrh4wtqk.jpg)

As I said, first time at something like this, so i welcome all feedback!

Anyone know where to get some 1/48 scale ducks....?  :D

Cheers,

BC


Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Manni on March 11, 2019, 08:01:14 PM
Beautiful work! The ground looks awsome. Very nice proposions of the scene.
Bye,Manni
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: RAGIII on March 11, 2019, 09:56:31 PM
The base looks terrific Brad! Looking forward to more as always.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: pepperman42 on March 11, 2019, 11:42:52 PM
Great work. Its coming together nicely!!

Steve
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Alexis on March 12, 2019, 11:31:00 AM
Your base is coming along super Brad , love the grass  :)


Try here https://www.oakridgehobbies.com/model-railroading-railroad-electric-trains/figures-people-animals/o-scale-minature-figures-people-animals.html (https://www.oakridgehobbies.com/model-railroading-railroad-electric-trains/figures-people-animals/o-scale-minature-figures-people-animals.html)


Terri
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: kensar on March 12, 2019, 09:53:44 PM
That base looks fantastic!  I think your idea for this project is very original.
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Trackpad on March 13, 2019, 07:10:24 AM
Brad, excellent work so far on a very dynamic layout. Well Done!

As a suggestion (although you may have thought of it already), the aircraft is missing its undercarriage, so it probably slid into the river on its fuselage. If so, you might want to cause a furrow in the grass behind the fuselage (grass bent down toward the fuselage and perhaps a few tufts ripped up as the fuselage passed over them). This might add extra dynamics to the work. Good luck with your build!  8)
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on March 13, 2019, 06:17:25 PM
Thanks everyone! Great tip Gary, appreciate the advice. I was thinking of having the U/C folded up underneath the fuselage but I'll have to see how this plays out once I start on the aircraft itself. If I can't get it to work or sit right then I think i'll follow your advice and flatten some of the grass out behind the aeroplane.

Any thoughts on an appropriate mid-1918 colour scheme or Jasta? Thinking perhaps a fictional scheme maybe based on a real Jasta marking...?

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Trackpad on March 13, 2019, 09:52:54 PM
"Any thoughts on an appropriate mid-1918 colour scheme or Jasta?"

Ummm...I don't think that I'm fully qualified to advise on these topics. After all, I'm the guy who recently slapped out-sized RFC roundels all over an Albatros DV...!  8)
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: gbrivio on March 14, 2019, 09:07:56 AM
Great scenery.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on April 03, 2019, 06:46:45 PM
Hi everyone - the interior is now completed. It's mostly out of the box with a couple of additions - I added a Karaya 1/48 engine to replace the kit engine, and added some detail to the engine compartment to fill the large void behind the engine in the kit (namely oil tanks, fuel tanks, and some bulkhead detail - nothing significant as not much more will be seen with the top wing on). The seat belts are at a bit of a funny angle as the finished model will also have a nose-down angle. The shoulder harnesses will be added towards the end of the build. 

(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC17_zpszzhb3bmv.jpg)
(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC18_zpsclwibxch.jpg)
(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC20_zpstuzfuwkm.jpg)(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC19_zpsluvwgm4t.jpg)
(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC21_zps4xyjgpbw.jpg)(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC22_zpsroldrovb.jpg)
(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC23_zps4b5muvou.jpg)(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC24_zps53vsxp4c.jpg)
(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC25_zpsayakqdbg.jpg)
(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC28_zpstviw2j6x.jpg)
(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC27_zps2ton1rfs.jpg)
(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC26_zpsmwqq6fwa.jpg)

Fuselage is now together and it's off to major construction...!

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Borsos on April 03, 2019, 07:18:18 PM
Any thoughts on an appropriate mid-1918 colour scheme or Jasta? Thinking perhaps a fictional scheme maybe based on a real Jasta marking...?

Cheers,

BC

Great work so far! What about a Jasta 18 scheme? The red and white would contrast well with the green/brown of the base and you probably could use a black duck instead of a raven?  ;)
Andreas
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: RAGIII on April 03, 2019, 09:58:18 PM
Beautifully detailed and painted as always Brad! Looking forward to the next update.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Trackpad on April 04, 2019, 02:05:24 AM
Excellent detail added, Brad. Well Done!   8)
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Alexis on April 04, 2019, 09:33:03 AM
Nice additions with those details Brad , this is shaping up wonderful so far  :)






Terri
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on April 07, 2019, 06:20:16 PM
Thanks everyone - i've started to add some basic 'battle damage' - mainly some detail which will sit under shot / torn fabric. In all, I want it to look like just enough damage to necessitate an inexperienced pilot to make a forced landing, so i'm going for some fairly significant damage to the rudder fabric, some damage to the elevator, and a holed radiator (to be done) and torn fabric on the upper wing. A few bullets will also have made their way into the engine compartment, and the wheel has damaged the lower wing on the tumble into the river.

(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC33_zpscnanwtba.jpg)
(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC29_zps3lxt8bo2.jpg)(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC30_zpsciyq7txi.jpg)
(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC31_zpsmilv880j.jpg)(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC32_zpsnu5uzpcn.jpg)

The torn fabric will probably be done with lozenge decal, or painted foil. Still yet to work that one out...

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: PrzemoL on April 07, 2019, 08:23:45 PM
Spectacular, Brad. The additions the cockpit, it all could go for a WNW model.
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: RAGIII on April 07, 2019, 10:59:00 PM
Excellent work on the framing and wire Brad!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: pepperman42 on April 07, 2019, 11:08:32 PM
Very nice work!! Would paper for the fabric be a little sturdier without being too thick?

Steve
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: gbrivio on April 08, 2019, 04:22:24 AM
Great update on interiors and battle damages. Looking forward to the thorn fabric phase.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on April 08, 2019, 05:18:28 PM
What about this for a paint scheme - I think the horseshoe and clover (good luck symbols) could be appropriate...?

(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC34_zpsuubloxel.jpg)

I know at some point this particular aircraft picked up a lozenge covered port tailplane, and had mauve/green/light blue coloured wings. I wonder if it would have been around long enough to pick up some May-1918 markings? Or perhaps I can use some creative licence...?

Thoughts?

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: pepperman42 on April 12, 2019, 09:13:26 AM
Good scheme. The upside down horse shoe means all the luck ran out

Steve
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on April 12, 2019, 08:45:09 PM
Hi Steve - whilst bored I googled the history of the horseshoe as a good luck charm, there's a couple of theories, including the direction (up or down) and which gives better luck... some say one way, others say the other way. I did find out though that the seven holes in the shoe are also for good luck. Combined with the four leaf clover, one could argue that the pilot's luck held as he lived to fight another day! Even though I was really looking to do a wooden fuselage / lozenge wings scheme, the more I think about this particular machine and its markings, the more I think it fits the scene (happy to take more thoughts). I might have to play around with the title of the diorama to tie this all in....

In any case, she now has some crumpled legs... most of this will be under the water line, but there may be enough clarity in the water that something might be seen (or at least hinted at).... worst case, at least i'll know it's there!

(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC35_zpsvkoxsj5z.jpg)(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC36_zpsv0ed6ugi.jpg)
(https://oi23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC37_zpsxgm4r4pb.jpg)

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: xan on April 12, 2019, 11:19:14 PM
Very interestng work

I dp', tknow of ot can help , but to represent broken fabrics, I used cigarette paper glued, varnished, painted and cutted with a X-acto ...

(https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2019/04/12/190412031451362434.jpg) (https://www.casimages.com/i/190412031451362434.jpg.html)

(https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2019/04/12/190412031450739140.jpg) (https://www.casimages.com/i/190412031450739140.jpg.html)

(https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2019/04/12/190412031451163258.jpg) (https://www.casimages.com/i/190412031451163258.jpg.html)

this technic can be interesting in your mount...

Xan

Xan

Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: RAGIII on April 13, 2019, 12:01:42 AM
Looking great Brad! The bent and broken gear is excellent.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Alexis on April 13, 2019, 11:38:37 AM
Really starting to come together now Brad , bent gear looks super  :)




Terri
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: pepperman42 on April 15, 2019, 01:54:55 AM
They're always after me Lucky Charms....

Steve
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on May 12, 2019, 04:59:24 PM
Hi all – it’s been about a month since the last update. The Albie now has some colour.

I stuck with the theme of the aircraft showing some kind of good luck charm, but the original plan for a blue / red Jasta 18 machine went by the wayside, as I really wanted lozenge wings and a wooden fuselage.

I started with replicating the wood fuselage. First was the grain, done with oil paints. I wanted to make sure there was some variation:

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC38_zpsvc5gvtyu.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC39_zpsvveqvked.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC40_zpslnlxoigw.jpg)

Then an overcoat of clear yellow to blend it all together. I’ve started to block in some of the panel colours.

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC41_zpszsmmx5xz.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC42_zpsnomu3xha.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC43_zpscjmo1qbp.jpg)

While that was drying, I started ‘skinning’ the rudder and elevator. The rudder I kept lozenge, so I used Eagle Strike 5 colour lozenge to skin this. The elevator was slightly tricker, as I wanted to paint some Jasta colours over the tailplane, and lozenge decal wouldn’t be up to masking. So, I applied the decal onto the inside of a layer of foil, which I then used to skin the elevator. This would mean that I could paint the elevator and still have the lozenge colours showing through when I ‘battle damaged’ the elevator:

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC44_zpsrrqekshj.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC45_zpst5fpw6j6.jpg)

Here the elevator is painted, in some very fictitious blue and red Jasta markings (just to add some colour), prior to the application of weathering and battle damage:

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC46_zpsgvodrjvi.jpg)

Next was the wings, also done using Eagle Strike lozenge. Here the upper wing is before weathering:

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC47_zpsbjxdv44n.jpg)

And here it is after weathering, with the battle damage done:

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC48_zpscwvfhjkq.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC49_zpspndpkpdv.jpg)

Same with the lower wing:

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC51_zpsxvsxl3ca.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC50_zpsxuvyt9h5.jpg)

And again, some more of the fictitious Jasta markings on the wheels:

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC52_zpssu6o1npl.jpg)

Here is the rest of the fuselage, with the rest of the battle damage done.

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC53_zpszl65khab.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC54_zpsjluy9mek.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC55_zpsvtbvhm2p.jpg)

As you can see, I stuck with the ‘four leaf clover’ good luck charm (stolen from the Wingnuts 1/32 decal sheet, which worked well for this scale). The last of the fictitious jasta markings was the blue spinner. The serial number was a home made decal – the astute amongst you will note that this serial number is outside of the range of serial numbers for the DV/DVa series – just to blend in with the fictitious nature of the scheme :-)

Lastly, here is another shot of the tail damage. I think I overdid it in the end a little too much… oh well, no going back!

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC56_zpstdzzcyzx.jpg)

Glad to have made it past this part of the build. Now it’s onto the rest of the major assembly.

Feedback welcomed as always!

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: RAGIII on May 12, 2019, 09:07:17 PM
Modeling Magic Brad! Brilliant work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: pepperman42 on May 12, 2019, 09:31:10 PM
Amazing work!!

Steve
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Alexis on May 12, 2019, 09:56:05 PM
Truly looking spectacular Brad , love how the wood grain on the fuselage turned out .  :)


Terri
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: kensar on May 12, 2019, 10:09:19 PM
Excellent woodgraining and battle damage, Brad.  I suspect this project will meet all expectations.
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Juan on May 12, 2019, 10:33:51 PM
Wow Brad, amazing modeling.  Looks larger than 1/48, like Rick said, magical.
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on May 13, 2019, 02:38:46 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone! Much appreciated.

Cheers

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Edo on May 13, 2019, 02:56:31 PM
yes! sbsolutely brilliant!
the battle damage looks very realistc to me...
I also learned the cigarette paper trick... i usually use alu foil for that purpose....
ciao
edo
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on May 19, 2019, 01:41:58 PM
Hi all - a minor update. The top wing is now mounted and rigged. I still have to fix the U/C and add some of the remaining details, but getting close now...

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC57_zpszekd0wyp.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC58_zpsa0fjssix.jpg)

Now that the top wing is on, it's apparent that the figure won't sit right - the left arm (which was supposed to rest on the top wing) is in fact hanging out in space and the backside isn't sitting properly on the coaming (it's kind of hanging out in space, which looks odd). I'll need to do some rework; the figure will likely end up facing a different direction, I think...  :(

I've also been experimenting with the resin that i'll use for the water - this is the first time i've tried something like this so it's a bit daunting. I've settled on a slow curing resin - Envirotex Lite, with some muddy acrylic colouring. Here is my test piece (which is about 1/3rd of an inch deep):

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC59_zpskewyxtwi.jpg)

The slow cure means that I can adjust the final position of the aircraft after the pour if I need to. The colouring also means that the river will look a little murky but still clear enough to see some of the river bed details. I'll likely add some ripples using gloss mod podge or similar.

I welcome any thoughts / feedback!

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: RAGIII on May 19, 2019, 01:46:00 PM
Looks absolutely awesome Brad! I think the water will be well represented with what you have done on the test piece. JMHO
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: gbrivio on May 19, 2019, 04:54:07 PM
Outstanding finishing, I like plywood panels and ripped fabric made this way. Water test looks fine.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: LT1962 on May 20, 2019, 11:10:34 AM
I like the river/pond as is.  Looks about perfect to me.
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: kensar on May 20, 2019, 09:25:57 PM
I didn't realize different 'water' materials could be layered on, but if they have different properties and are compatible, it makes sense.
I have never worked with many diorama materials.

Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Thumbs up on May 21, 2019, 03:13:42 AM
How about some mud splashes on those clean white markings.
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on May 22, 2019, 09:59:10 PM
Thanks all - I might try some more experimentation but I am a little gun-shy the first time around in trying something like this - I might not tempt fate too much....! In any case, the aircraft itself is pretty much done, and the pilot has had his left arm broken, re-positioned, touched up, and some goggles added into his left hand.

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC60_zpsy6io4jsx.jpg)
(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC61_zpsodolikag.jpg)

Now it's time to bring it all together.....

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: RAGIII on May 23, 2019, 04:35:24 AM
Outstanding Brad. Looking forward to the finish!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Alexis on May 23, 2019, 09:59:15 AM
Very very cool ! :)



Terri
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Edo on May 23, 2019, 03:00:56 PM
i just realized from last pictures that it is not a 1:32 model.... wow! even more amazing!
ciao
edo
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: PrzemoL on May 23, 2019, 05:37:53 PM
Great modelling, Brad. Looking forward to see the final result (which will surely be spectacular!)
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: FokkerFodder on May 23, 2019, 06:32:30 PM
Really shaping up as a spectacular diorama!!
Hopefully I’ll see it down at the ACT show this year! Cheers
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on May 26, 2019, 06:01:43 PM
Hi everyone - i'm calling this one done....

(https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Albatros%20Crash/DVC62_zpscvkztybz.jpg)

The full suite of completed pics are here -

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10327.0 (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10327.0)

The water effects didn't quite worked out the way that I wanted, but I recovered it well enough. Thanks to all for your support through this build; it was alot of fun and I learned alot about modelling terrain.

Thanks again!

BC
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: RAGIII on May 26, 2019, 10:14:09 PM
A Truly Gorgeous piece of work all around Brad! It was a pleasure to watch it come together. A very fitting Tribute to Des!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Radarman on May 27, 2019, 12:27:30 AM
Brad,
A fantastic dedication and great inspiration.

                               Kevin
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa - COMPLETED
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 01, 2019, 02:21:33 PM
Thanks gents! I've now marked this one as COMPLETED.  Now, what to build next.....?
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa - COMPLETED
Post by: Alexis on June 01, 2019, 10:06:07 PM
Holy cow Brad-man ! Awesome  :)




Terri
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa - COMPLETED
Post by: KrzysiekK on June 04, 2019, 07:26:37 PM
Wow!
What a great, very detailed pic of damaged DVa!
Superb!
regards
K
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa - COMPLETED
Post by: Borsos on June 11, 2019, 02:20:12 AM
Very nice vignette, very life-like.
Andreas
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa - COMPLETED
Post by: Kalt on June 21, 2019, 03:49:45 AM
Beatiful vignette, I love the water!
Title: Re: 1/48 Albatros DVa - COMPLETED
Post by: aliluke on June 25, 2019, 04:09:25 PM
Simply brilliant and at 1:48 as well - incredible.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: COMPLETED - 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 29, 2019, 08:46:01 AM
Thanks everyone, your kind words are much appreciated!

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: COMPLETED - 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Trackpad on June 29, 2019, 09:02:08 AM
I don't think that I can add any more to what has already been said, but I'll try: "What a first rate, ingenious and extremely well executed project!" . Congratulations, Mr. C. Beautiful work!  8)
Title: Re: COMPLETED - 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Borsos on August 01, 2019, 07:36:00 AM
Great little dio!
Andreas
Title: Re: COMPLETED - 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Bluesfan on September 08, 2019, 10:00:11 PM
I love this! Many congrats on your richly deserved reward!
I feel bad that I didn't clock this before - I guess because you got on with the project in good time unlike myself ;)

I'm especially curious about your experiment with water effects; may I ask - What did you mean by 'gloss mod podge' as regards the final wave effects? Or if you formed the waves/river flow some other way, what was that?

At any rate, if this really is your first try at water effects, I'm hugely impressed.
WWI features a plethora of interesting seaplanes, but modelers rarely seem to risk their beautifully crafted machines in creating a suitably appropriate scene. I'm hoping to take the plunge some time, so many thanks for your fine example!

Cheers
Mark
Title: Re: COMPLETED - 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: kensar on September 09, 2019, 09:47:05 PM
Same thoughts here.  That water is done remarkably well.
Title: Re: COMPLETED - 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on September 11, 2019, 02:55:41 PM
Thanks Mark - mod podge is a craft product, which has quite a few uses, see here:

https://modpodgerocksblog.com/all-about-mod-podge-gloss/

I applied it with a brush over the top of the cured resin and used an airbrush to create the ripples.

Thanks again,

BC
Title: Re: COMPLETED - 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: dr 1 ace on September 14, 2019, 04:27:44 AM
Just a beautiful piece !! Thanks also for the link on the mod-podge.

Ed
Title: Re: COMPLETED - 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: kensar on September 14, 2019, 06:37:40 AM
A couple of questions, Brad.  How thick was the Envirotex lite layer?  Did you pour multiple layers to build up to the final thickness?  How thick was the Modge Podge layer?

Any watch outs or potential problems in creating the water effect?

Thanks,
Title: Re: COMPLETED - 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Bluesfan on September 14, 2019, 07:12:22 PM
Thanks Brad - didn't realise it was a brand name :)  And I think it must be the same or similar stuff that several firms our way offer to complement their water effect products. Great to see how effective the results can be, in your scene. Must experiment!

Cheers
Mark
Title: Re: COMPLETED - 1/48 Albatros DVa
Post by: Brad Cancian on November 05, 2019, 05:46:01 PM
Sorry for the late reply Ken, I've been overseas for the last two months and it skipped my mind to reply!

The Envirotex needed a couple of layers. I made the first one a little too thick (~1.5cm) and the base bowed a little due to the heat as the resin cured (somewhat un-cleverly hidden with black strips at the bottom of the base). So my advice would be to go slow and do multiple thinner layers of under 1cm. 

You do have a little bit of time with this resin to get rid of bubbles (breathing on the resin for 5-10 minutes helps to do this, but I still found some bubbles were left over. A small heat gun might do a better job). Don't expect to get anything other than a flat top layer with this resin - if you try and do anything after about 10 minutes the resin is too sticky and won't re-level or smooth out properly. I'd do a test run before you commit to it on a project. Other than that it was easy to mix and to add colour to.

The Mod Podge has the consistency of white glue so it is fairly thin and easy to use. The ripples were done by applying the mod podge and using an airbrush to 'blow' the ripples into the surface.

Cheers!

BC