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Forum Archive Storage => Des Delatorre International Memorial Group Build => Topic started by: kensar on February 06, 2019, 03:32:24 AM
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I had planned to do a scratchbuilt Hanriot for some time now and this group build has given me the push to do it now. I think its fitting to do a scratchbuild to honor Des. Even though I had limited correspondence with Des, he encouraged and motivated me in my previous WW1 builds and those participating in this forum are continuing that.
I can't show any unstarted kit picture because there are no 1/32 scale kits of this plane.
I'll be posting pictures when I have something started.
Looking forward to seeing all the great builds in this endeavor!
Ken M
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I am REALLY looking forward to this one! The Hanriot is a beautiful aircraft with some great schemes!!
RAGIII
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yeah! me too....
besides a scratch build is a mos appropriate way to join the group build in Des’ memory!
ciao
edo
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This is a great tribute build - scratch of a seldom seen model of a plane and a seaplane to boot. Looking forward it.
Cheers
Alistair
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This sounds great and it is a great tribute to Des. I will follow and try to learn a lot.
Bye,
Manni
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Ken,
Wow a Hanriot , really? I'm so looking forward to following along with this project my friend. The Hanriot is one of those aircraft I've always wanted to scratchbuild myself. The best of luck to you in the GB .
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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This sounds great Ken,a double treat to follow:a scratchbuild, and of a Hanriot.WNW will doubtless release one in 6 months!
Cheers,
Dave.
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WOW, another Hanriot!
I take a seat in the front row!
Antonio
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Show off!
;D
Looking forward to it.
Guy
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Ken,
Wow a Hanriot , really? I'm so looking forward to following along with this project my friend. The Hanriot is one of those aircraft I've always wanted to scratchbuild myself. The best of luck to you in the GB .
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
This was exactlymy thaught, I've always wanted to (be able and) scratchbuild an HD1.This doubles my interest into your build.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Hi Ken! What a subject and you are extremely brave to tackle it! I just love Hanriots, too!
Regards,
Marc
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And so it begins...
I did get a WNW Clerget engine and Eduard Vickers MG for this build. The engine was pretty simple. I added valve springs and spark plug wires.
Basic engine
(https://i.postimg.cc/bwycPFTN/Hanriot-01.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Completed
(https://i.postimg.cc/TYXv7P5b/Hanriot-05.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VvXQfxp5/Hanriot-06.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Next I cut out the tail surfaces from 0.040" plastic card and float parts from 0.030" card.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8k3njDmP/Hanriot-07.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Float construction is pretty straightforward.
(https://i.postimg.cc/j2WgZktb/Hanriot-08.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8cqy3Bzr/Hanriot-09.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I'll be finishing the basic floats soon and probably go back to the tail surfaces.
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Terrific work on the engine and awesome beginning to the floats!
RAGIII
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Great start, lovely choice.
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Wow, Ken! Some lovely colours on the engine and a great start on the floats! This will be a build to follow... Quite inspiring! Regards, Marc
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Time for an update. It seems to take a long time to make progress when you have to make everything from elemental shapes.
Stick half done. The Hanriot has duplicate control wires on the rudder and elevator. The ignition cut off button is on the top of the stick.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pLhRfgpQ/Hanriot-10.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Finished stick has the machine gun switch and bowden cable attached.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XYR3QQCR/Hanriot-11.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Beginning of the wings. I laminated 5 layers of 0.020" plastic sheet and taped them around the glass bottle to give the wings some camber. I am trying the Gorilla glue (polyurethane glue) for this. I want to try this glue in place of the usual polystyrene glue because the polystyrene glue warps and distorts thin sheet polystyrene. The wings will be cut out of this curved sheet.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wBDzPL57/Hanriot-12.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The seat back.
(https://i.postimg.cc/KzN2cbHb/Hanriot-13.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The fuselage sides and the early control stick. I thought the frame would be very flimsy without the side attached. I might be wrong. This won't make working inside the fuse easy. Live and learn.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bJ8PjrLL/Hanriot-14.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I've painted the fuse side and other parts with oil paint for the wood grain and I'm waiting for that to dry.
I painted the machine guns Model Master gunmetal, which is a black with silver metalflake in it. I don't like the look, so it will get repainted to a semigloss black, based on pictures of Vickers MGs.
I'm seeing good progress with all the other builds!
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In a word....AWSOME!
RAGIII
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Really nice framing and a great metal work on the stick.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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wow!
i really admire your craftmanship!
ciao
edo
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Jaw dropping.
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Graet to see another scratch build in this tribute to a master of the craft. Please can you give the trade name for the Gorilla glue as I too would like to use it to laminate thin plastic sheets. The control stick is extremely good - I really admire that.
Yes making ll of the parts really makes scratch building a slow process - but worth it in the end.
Stephen.
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The Gorilla glue did not work out. It did not cure between the layers and delaminated when I started cutting it. I suspect it needs some exposure to air to cure. So, I have laminated sheets with liquid styrene glue, which worked, and I have the top wings laminated. I now am waiting for more styrene sheet to make bottom wings with. I plan to skin the top of the wings with thin styrene that has the rib pattern embossed on it, ala Woodman.
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Excellent work on your project, enjoying following along.
Mark
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Thanks, Guitar. You're doing some great work on the Gotha.
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Ken,
Very impressive bit of Scratch Building my friend. Keep up the outstanding progress .
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Update time.
It certainly complicates construction when building the fuse in halves, instead of building the framework and then skinning it later. However, progress is made...
Basic fuse sides. Wooden framework painted, CDL sides. I put CDL decals in the first bay behind the cockpit since it should be more visible.
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8GVDVDn/Hanriot-16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Seat Framing and fuel tanks added, and a prominent detail - the throttle slide mechanism and rudder bar. Air intake tubes to be added later.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fLNfnT6s/Hanriot-17.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vm9tN62X/Hanriot-18.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Added more details - throttle mechanism. There is a tank behind the pilot's head. I hope it is an oil tank and not a fuel tank in that location. If its a fuel tank, that would give me the willies fighting the enemy with a fuel tank on my back! The line from the tank with a valve is visible on the left cockpit side.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fLfjwQN9/Hanriot-19.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d3QR3NsS/Hanriot-20.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I have laminated plastic sheeting for the wings like Des typically did and planned to skin the tops of the wings with a thin sheet that is embossed with the ribs, ala Woodman. I have not made progress on the wings as the fuse has my complete attention at the moment. This is one of the wing skins. The bottom of the wing will have masking tape rib tapes since they don't stick out of the surface as the ribs on the top of the wing. At least that's the plan.
(https://i.postimg.cc/T3K9nsrz/Hanriot-15.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Anyone know if the Hanriot had an air pump on the right side of the cockpit? I can find no pictures of that side showing one, and I don't see any prop driven air compressor on any of the struts.
I'll be doing some weathering and putting the other side of the fuse on soon.
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Coming along really well so far , love the detail so far !
Terri
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Beautiful interiors, I keep these as future reference. As for the tank, I think it's a fuel tank behind the pilot's headrest (was very usual to put fuel also under the seat, also in the subsequent decades) and I suspect there was no air pump: gravity feeding and maybe a mechanical pump withing engine gear, no tank presurization. But just my guess based on the few picture I've seen from the H.D. interiors that don't show any hand pump.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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exquisite detail...better than any kit I have seen!
RAGIII
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Some absolutely stunning building here, Ken! The fuselage is beautiful! Quite the masterful touch... I hope the wings come out OK... the old method by Harry Woodman with the wooden former inside, double sided tape then the embossed card worked really well for me... maybe he had something with the formula... Regards, Marc
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Forgot to post a pic of the seat. I'll make a seat cushion out of Milliput.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zDbfyYCH/Hanriot-24.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Glued the sides together and added more details. I found there is a slight misalignment between the halves that will cause trouble unless I correct it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/TwsBzS1Z/Hanriot-21.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
View from the bottom.
(https://i.postimg.cc/6TJg3vdc/Hanriot-22.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That is an awesome interior! I am sure you will straighten out your misalignment issue 8)
RAGIII
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Nice work so far Ken 8)
Terri
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Thank you, everyone, for following along!
Progress..
I made this jig to hold the fuse straight while I put in the cross members down toward the tail. It was a football shaped wooden cutting board that came with a gift set. At least its been put to better use.
(https://i.postimg.cc/g2qK191T/Hanriot-25.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Test fitting the tail. Looks okay. I got almost all of the misalignment out.
(https://i.postimg.cc/QtPtMwGg/Hanriot-26.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Vsp4CWjD/Hanriot-27.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Now I am at the point where I need the cowling to match up the forward fuse sides to.
I decided to try the most challenging machining job I have ever done - to machine the cowl from aluminum. It will be difficult because it should be very thin.
I started with a 1.5" thick aluminum bar, and started whittling away. I cut off a lot of metal! I made the curve of the cowl using a file and just eyeballed some photos of the plane. Getting the inside of the cowl curve cut to the right radius for consistent thickness was pure guesswork - the engine has to fit all the way in the cowl and the prop needs to clear the front of the cowl.
This is the second setup. For the first setup, the cowl was turned around and the inside was cut out first. Since the cowl was so thin, it had to be supported on the inside when chucked up.
(https://i.postimg.cc/R0STBsBV/Hanriot-28.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
After some lathe work, I moved to the mill to cut the cooling slots. I don't have to unchuck it to put it on the dividing table for milling.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vHnhLxhM/Hanriot-30.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Fortunately, I did not break any of the small milling bits - an accomplishment for me!
After a little clean up.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wMCS4KnB/Hanriot-34.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Completed cowl with engine mocked up.
(https://i.postimg.cc/05bcjBJz/Hanriot-32.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I also made seatbelts out of masking tape and twist-tie wire. Needs a little weathering.
(https://i.postimg.cc/T3X9k2Nb/Hanriot-33.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Still continuing with the fuse.
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an excellent progress
The engine is super !
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Cowling turned out fantastic ! :)
Terri
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Very nice!! Love that cowling and fuselage!
Mark
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have to agree with my old friend Terri: the cowl is just fantastic!
ciao
edo
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Fantastic progress.
What looks better than Alclad II?....Real, polished aluminium.
Bye,
Manni
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Thanks for posting, Mark, Manni, Edo, Terri, and Ermeio.
I wanted a satin finish on the cowl, so I put it in the lathe and sanded it with 600 grit to wipe off the shine.
I also noted that I forgot to make a seat cushion. Don't tell anyone. ;)
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That cowl is a work of art, I have the same lathe...but none of the talent.
Ryan
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The cowling is a work of art! Just Brilliant modeling. The fuselage assembly is continuing to be absolutely first class and I love the Seat belts!
RAGIII
PS: I could use some of your skills for a future project for a Nieuport 17 BIS build ;D
RAGIII
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Ken,
Wow my friend that's some absolutely beautiful work. Keep up the excellence.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Magnificent work.
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That is really cool. Enjoying seeing how you do it.
James
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Ken,
I agree with all of the comments on this thread. You've done a super job to this point and I can expect more of the same as you progress. And, just so you know, I can't even spell "lathe" let alone operate one: excellent work on the cowling. Best of luck as you move onward! 8)
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What is a lathe?!
That cowling is a mini-masterpiece - obviously not the first time that you have done something like that. The detail in the fuselage was a joy to look at and study, so much tiny detail. This is a superb project - one which is setting the very highest standards.
Stephen.
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Terrific progress, great interiors and fuselage jig, and a superb metalworking with the cowlig.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Ryan, Rick, Greg, Juan, James, Gary, Stephan, and Giuseppe, thanks for the compliments. I do enjoy the metal working parts.
A quick update here. I've been working on getting the forward fuse put together, and I have to wait for some glued parts to fully cure before moving forward, so I jumped around a bit.
The forward fuse sheet metal that fairs in the round engine to the rectangular fuse seems to be a flat piece that was just screwed down on the fuse. The plastic parts needed a little coaxing in the form of some pre-shaping. I need to wait for these parts to dry before continuing to work on them.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VvnrRdsG/Hanriot-35.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I sanded the airfoil shape in the bottom wing core. The upper surface skin is visible in the picture.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kXPt5Fwk/Hanriot-36.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
How to get the wing skin to glue down to the wing core took some thinking ahead. I came up with this method. The partially inflated plastic bag (packing material) applies even pressure all over the wing as the glue sets. The weights add pressure to hold the skin against the core so it conforms well.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HkpcwYqz/Hanriot-37.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
With the fuse and wing set aside, I started on the cockpit instruments. I like these Airscale instrument face decals. Here I am parting off the clock bezel.
(https://i.postimg.cc/MK0ffMFX/Hanriot-38.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Here are the instruments: Tachometer, airspeed indicator, leather encased altimeter, clock, and pulsometer. The tach has the four tabs on it for mounting. I don't know why the altimeter is in a leather case. Maybe they were susceptible to vibration?
(https://i.postimg.cc/XNCC3DKf/Hanriot-39.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Still lots to do...
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i can’t believe that!
those instruments are juels!
i am really speachless....
ciao
edo
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Great work all around, especially the instruments.
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Really amazing work on allcomponents of the build.
Andreas
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Brilliant!
RAGIII
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This is taking modelling to a level that Des worked at. This is truly amazing - bezels turned on your own lathe! Marvrllous.
Stephen.
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for me this is a definition of scratchbuilding, phe-no-me-nal
8)
buzby
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Just WOW! The things you show here are fantastic. THIS is real modeling I admire you for this work and your skills.
Bye,
Manni
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Magic, pure magic...
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Thank you, everyone. I do appreciate the encouraging comments.
Unfortunately, the instruments are too large to be in scale. The size is based on the size of the Airscale instrument face decals, which are apparently not exactly 1/32 scale. However, I did want to use them, so I made the IP larger and rearraigned them.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qvxQYhF3/Hanriot-43.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1t2K6p8L/Hanriot-44.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/cLSXXMFW/Hanriot-45.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
So, the cockpit is essentially done. I do want to add another cross brace wire behind the seat but I need to figure out exactly how to do that. I have touched up the wood grain since these pics were taken, and now I am working on detailing the tail surfaces.
Thanks for following along.
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Superb, Ken! Looks like the real thing to my eyes!!
RAGIII
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I agree with Rick, probably if you take the measurements with a precision instrument they will be out of scale, but to the naked eye they look great! And to me this is the most iportant thing!
Beautiful work on each building phase!
Antonio
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Impressive! those instruments look like the real ones.
Unfortunately, the instruments are too large to be in scale. The size is based on the size of the Airscale instrument face decals, which are apparently not exactly 1/32 scale. However, I did want to use them, so I made the IP larger and rearraigned them.
I had the same problem with their instrument decals
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Catching up again. The cockpit is one of the nnbest that I have seem in terms of realism - very difficult to believe that this is scratch built. This really is a very stimulating thread to follow.
Stephen.
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Finally, time for another update. My building time got reduced significantly in April and circumstances still limit my time, but I'm managing.
I got some diopter lenses to get some better closeups with the camera. Tried them out on the cockpit.
(https://i.postimg.cc/W3FyZhm4/Hanriot-46.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/YqwP42vp/Hanriot-47.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4ypF8qSk/Hanriot-48.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Upper wings. Like the lower wings, there is a 0.010" skin with the ribs embossed on it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/J4c2jwXj/Hanriot-49.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Formed the headrest using the wooden dowel. Just heated a sheet of plastic card and wrapped it around. Built up the turtle deck and sanded some flats to simulate longerons and covering.
(https://i.postimg.cc/25XJ34ZJ/Hanriot-50.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The lower surfaces have simulated rib tapes with strips of decals.
(https://i.postimg.cc/W3BHwTSw/Hanriot-51.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
This is the upper wing support that goes over the front of the fuselage. Soldered brass rods.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HkYP2S0R/Hanriot-52.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Test fit of the upper fuse covering and wing support.
(https://i.postimg.cc/v8njHxHq/Hanriot-53.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Fitting of the guns.
(https://i.postimg.cc/g2gtBvNJ/Hanriot-54.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Starting to look like an airplane instead of a collection of parts.
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Most excellent!
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Simply outstanding.... :D
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Graet progress, excellent solutions on making every section and details.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Great work!
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Simply amazing! Your interior is outstanding as are the headrest and wings, and the trestle cabanes! Looks great all buttoned up.
RAGIII
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Thanks for commenting AROTH, Juan, Giuseppe, Przemol, and Rick.
A few comments:
The decal rib tapes on the bottom of the wings got wrinkled when spraying Tamiya white primer on them, so, after re-applying them, I put 3 coats of Future floor polish on them before priming.
The ailerons have been attached to the upper wings with small (0.015") wire. The actual aircraft has flat hinges on the bottom surface of the wing, like many RC aircraft of today. This creates a large gap on the top wing surface so the aileron can move upward. I will put a simulated hinge on the bottom of the wing for appearances sake.
I have fixed the gaps around the wing support / cabane and the fuse top. It looks horrible in the picture.
The guns on the actual plane sit on top of the fuse, not halfway in it like most WW1 aircraft, making it easier to fit them.
I take pictures at random points along the build process, so the pictures may show crude work, but I fix a lot of things before I am finish with it.
Again, thanks for following along and commenting.
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Well, i' am amazed, this work is fanstastic. Especially instruments. Real work of art.
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I like it so far , totally cool thread to follow ;D
Terri
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You are doing a great job here. Hats off!
Andreas
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You are setting a very high standard of scratch building here: the cockpit is just amazing. The other details are also excellent - in all a first class model in the making here.
Stephen.
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Excellent progress!!
Steve
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A short update here. It's difficult to find modeling time right now.
Thanks for the encouraging comments, folks.
The doubled flying wires are attached to these bolt through type fittings. The brass rods simulate the ends of the struts.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXb4qKLF/Hanriot-55.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Here I'm test fitting the flying wires with scrap tubing on an extra fitting mount to make sure things will work.
(https://i.postimg.cc/02TFjjDR/Hanriot-56.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Here I have the base color coat on the lower wings and the fuse. I'm painting the roundels on and the fuse decals are hand cut.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qv2Y3rxt/Hanriot-57.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I should be able to fit the tail soon and the forward fuse needs a little more work.
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Absolutely brilliant Modeling in all respects!
RAGIII
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Progress made...
This is the jig I made to solder up the float mounts. The mounting struts are 3/32 brass tubing. I put a 1/32 brass rod in the 3/32 tubes and crushed it in a vice. This creates an oval shape. The brass rod inside the tube keeps the tube from being crushed too much.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5tCTTKDT/Hanriot-58.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Struts on the right are as soldiered, on the left, cleaned up.
(https://i.postimg.cc/cLjPDGkf/Hanriot-59.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I just had to mock up the fuse to have a look at the front end.
(https://i.postimg.cc/WbpRznJq/Hanriot-60.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/sg1t9gmV/Hanriot-61.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Awesome work on the float struts and the fuselage looks great blocked up!
RAGIII
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wow! i’m speachless....
ciao
edo
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Very impressive work. I'm looking forward your next steps.
Bye,
Manni
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Very nice work!!
Steve
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Thanks for the comments. They do provide motivation!
Just a small update on the last major components - the floats and struts.
The float access ports (don't know what they are called). I couldn't find any details for these so I put together something that looks feasible. After a dull coat and a wash, they should look okay.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZr8Zj14/Hanriot-62.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Here the struts are being glued to the floats. I had a heck of a time getting the struts to the right length to make the angle between the fuse and the floats correct. I plan to add weights to the floats so it won't be tailheavy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/FR5Yh5kQ/Hanriot-64.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Lots of little details left.
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Gorgeous update, you made a great structural work.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Looks excellent!
RAGIII
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Very nice engineering!!
Steve
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Master level craftsmanship.
Ryan
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Simply outstanding & beautiful.
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Awesome work!
Mark
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Wonderful work all in all. It’s far better than every kit could be.
Andreas
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Thank you everyone for your wonderful and encouraging comments.
This one is really starting to shape up now. I still have to make some wing struts and a propeller. I am thinking about making all of them from laminated paperboard, like the Fokker prop I did last year. The superglue really transformed the paper layers into a rock hard material, which should be strong and stiff enough for wing struts.
Most recently, I've been focusing on detail work around the cockpit and tail.
Here I mounted the guns with ammo chutes, caps for the different tanks, cockpit coaming (a 0.075" plastic tube slit on one side), and air intakes for the engine.
(https://i.postimg.cc/R0V6Kwz0/Hanriot-65.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9MDDNV05/Hanriot-66.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Rigging around the tail. The brass tubes simulate turnbuckles and don't look all that accurate in this view, but when viewed from further away, they look the part. On the actual plane, they are small turnbuckles.
(https://i.postimg.cc/d0H7BDqj/Hanriot-67.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/63FykS47/Hanriot-68.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The floats have been painted the base gray color, so weathering them is next for them.
Thanks for checking in!
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Incredible detail work! Really looking terrific!
RAGIII
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I have been away Ken and therefore just spent a very enjoyable time reading through and catching up. This is scratch building as Des would have done using a variety of materials and producing first class components and parts. This is better than WNW!
Stephen.
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Ken , just simply stunning workmenship all around . Looking forward on the next up-date .
Terri
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An excellent update!!
Steve
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Thank you again for the comments.
A small update - I made the wing struts out of coffee stirring sticks I found at work. They were pretty even colored and have a tight wood grain that doesn't look too out of scale. I laminated two together with superglue, which made them suitably stiff and then sanded to shape. I drilled holes in the ends and glued soft wire into the ends.
(https://i.postimg.cc/B6ShNHfM/Hanriot-69.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
A cherry wood stain brought out the grain nicely and a coating of Tamiya clear yellow will finish them off. Since this picture, I have reshaped the trailing edges to a curve as they should be.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qR11Fqk0/Hanriot-70.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Weathered floats - I used pastel chalks which were easy to use and remove if I don't like the look. I do like the amount of control this technique affords.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2y30NY6W/Hanriot-71.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DfYCdSjP/Hanriot-72.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I hope they're not overdone. The front access ports will be installed later, after everything is put together and I can determine the amount of weight to be added so the plane is not tailheavy.
Before I put the top wings on, I will finish the fuse details - a headrest pad and the covers that go on the sides of the guns.
Till next time...
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I haven't caught up on this until just now. Amazing work all round. Also love the colour scheme with the bird.
Cheers
Alistair
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Very effective look on the struts!!
Steve
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Fantastic Ken, the wheathering on the floats is very nice...
Antonio
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Ken , so far this is turning out to be a wonderful build to follow , those floats are awesome !
Terri
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Thanks, everyone.
Here is a significant milestone - I have put the upper wings on.
But first - a potentially useful hint I picked up from building RC planes. I have needed to make parts from sheet wood and needed to transfer line drawings to the wood as a pattern before cutting parts out. Using a laser printed plan on paper, lay the paper printed side against the wood and apply acetone to the back of the paper. I use a sponge for this. Press firmly. Then lift off the paper and the image has transferred to the wood. This will only work once with a printed paper plan, by the way. In this case, I used the image on the wood to make a form for the bulging covers that go over the machine guns.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hvYhqqGz/Hanriot-75.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Now that the educational part is over... the entertainment!
(https://i.postimg.cc/vmyTyhGz/Hanriot-77.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/L6qn3hyz/Hanriot-78.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Vknv2pPv/Hanriot-80.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I likely will make the deadline on this one!
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Wow, that looks fantastic. :D :D :D
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Wow indeed - beautifully made. Love the extreme rake of the struts - a very dynamic looking plane.
Cheers
Alistair
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super!
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Brilliant work- love it. Cheers Matt
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The struts came out great and your Hanriot looks Brilliant as a biplane! Amazing work all around!
RAGIII
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Awesome Ken ! :) 8)
Terri
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I really like the turned parts - the access ports on the floats are cool 8)
Cheers,
Frank
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Perfect work, Ken. The floats are great, they will match perfect with the plane.
Bye,
Manni
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Thank you all for the compliments. I am really seeing this come together as I join the major sub-assemblies.
Alistair - the extreme rake of the struts led to some extreme difficulty putting them all together. They are not only angled forward, but outward as well.
Rick - I do like how the struts came out. Having touches of the real materials - wood, aluminum, etc. give a sense that this is a real plane.
Frank - I do like turning the metal parts. I very much admire your detail work - and its in 1/48.
Manni - I think the floats will work well with the rest of the plane. I tried to 'match' the amount of weathering on each part so it doesn't look like parts from different planes. The cowling, however, will be fairly clean. It is the shiny part that gets your attention!
Thanks for replying and following along. Working on this almost everyday makes a long 5 months so far.
Till next time...
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Fantastic build so far!
Andreas
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A quick update. The On-rio only lacks a prop and the aileron control horns. Then I plan to make a seaplane dolly to display it on.
This one will have another 'paper' prop. Here are the layers of a report cover and the pattern.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9b660sV/Hanriot-81.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
After some CA glue and some sanding on the belt/disc sander, I have a decent prop blank to work on.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGGxf9r5/Hanriot-82.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I understand French props were a deep red-brown color with the layers not very visible, so this one will probably get painted.
Thanks for looking.
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Excellent start on your prop! I am sure it will look stunning!
RAGIII
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Excellent work so far.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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A interesting approach in using paper for the air screw.
Hmm, may be in some cases also useful for me, but in general I like to stick to my real wood.
Can this be sanded easily?
Cheers,
Frank
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Prop in progress...
(https://i.postimg.cc/HsZMrhht/Hanriot-83.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The CA glue/paper fiber material is very hard, probably harder than wood. It can be sanded and I use a belt sander to rough out the shape and then hand sand to the final shape. For best results, it should be sanded/filed in the direction of the paper grain (one can determine that with a little sanding - it looks fuzzy if you don't sand with the grain). I periodically have to recoat with CA where the glue has not penetrated well. I think wing struts could be made this way as well.
When coated, the reddish brown color comes out. I have put 2 coats of Tamiya clear red mixed with clear orange on it and will sand/polish it for a better finish. I like the way it looks, so I doubt I will paint it. I have also made the prop boss, which needs dull coating and some photoetch bolts. If you look closely, the laminations are visible because some layers are pure red.
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Your prop looks Fabulous!
RAGIII
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That prop does look the part Ken and the hub is perfect.
Ryan
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Looks as good if not better than wood.
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Lovely prop Ken. I have seen the paper technique used by other modellers but have never had the b....s to try one myself. Looks as though that will have to change soon!
Stephen.
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Great update. Maybe re-link the prop technique?
Steve
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As you wish...
Hope this link works.
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=8688.0
I should have the plane finished in a couple more days. Then I'll work on a seaplane beaching trolley and sawhorses to display it on.
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The plane is done but I'm not calling the project done yet.
I am posting some first pictures and detail shots:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Jzh9q1w9/Hanriot-92.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/6p1FbDtT/Hanriot-93.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VLgxnJhq/Hanriot-95.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/gjPCq8dD/Hanriot-96.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9fRK6JQb/Hanriot-98.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fbGpDm3N/Hanriot-99.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/LXj7X5fZ/Hanriot-100.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/x8R4vZ6f/Hanriot-101.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dtsXsq0L/Hanriot-102.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/0Q1WLv35/Hanriot-110.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/YqDXtYVs/Hanriot-113.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/L68CdNyP/Hanriot-114.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/L6xWhrqv/Hanriot-104.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/52GkSLSC/Hanriot-106.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nrHdhkp6/Hanriot-112.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mk8mzHrh/Hanriot-115-BW.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/wBLF5PBC/Hanriot-116.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I hope all the pics don't break the website.
A beaching trolley and saw horses are next.
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Your Hanriot is Brilliant all around! A truly masterful work that Des would have loved!! It has been a pleasure to follow your build.
RAGIII
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excellent model, p9o1r1sche
A spectacular representation of the Hanriot
er me
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Ken, you have created a work of art. Bravisimo
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That is surely a thing of beauty - the more so as it is scratch built. A masterpiece of modelling - my hat off to you sir!
Stephen.
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Very nice finish!!
Steve
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amazing!
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Superb work! Looks great.
Bye,
Manni
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Thank you, all, for taking the time to comment, even after this 5 month journey. It is encouraging to hear from those that are following along and I try to return the favor by leaving sincere feedback and sharing my experiences building models. A lot of excellent modeling talent is shown here on this forum.
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Ken, this is really a beautiful and detailed Hanroit and this without a kit - fantastic!
A kit could not be better 8)
You take a good advantage of the big scale and added a lot of details - that cause a real looking model.
Des would like it!
Cheers,
Frank
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Ken your build is so inspiring that I hope WNW, CSM or other manufacturer will do one for the rest of us mere mortals.
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Ken, I got here just in time to see the final result of your project. What can I say that has not already been said by many others: truly a beautiful and very skillfully built model. Congratulations on a absolutely first-rate effort. Well Done! 8)
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Wonderful. A brilliant rendition of a strenously cool plane 8).
Cheers
Alistair
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Thank you, everyone who has been following along and those that left comments. They have been overwhelmingly positive.
I'm making good progress on the beaching dolly and some saw horses, so final pictures should be up within a week.
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Okay, final pictures. I have made a beaching trolley and saw horses as seen in pictures of the real thing.
Here are the rims and hubs of the trolley wheels. The spokes are cut off wooden toothpicks.
(https://i.postimg.cc/tgrQLsMG/Hanriot-119.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The finished model
(https://i.postimg.cc/1RVhj50b/Hanriot-120.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJpS3nRG/Hanriot-121.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7YgvqsWV/Hanriot-124.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DwF90QVK/Hanriot-125.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/13HLqgPV/Hanriot-126.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Ls8GBH6C/Hanriot-127.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/B6dy0H5k/Hanriot-129.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/SRCPNRDs/Hanriot-130.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Well this was a lot of work but I'm really happy with the one-of-a-kind model.
I already have another scratchbuild in mind, but that will have to wait until I take a break!
This build was done to honor Des and Adrienne and recognize that he has put together a lasting tribute to those that served in the Great War.
I would also like to thank Dave and Lance for organizing this shindig and all the participants for, well, participating.
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Ken, that is one excellent build right from the get-go. Having read through your thread and seen what you have accomplished, and how you accomplished it, I am seriously thinking of giving up this hobby, given how high you have set the bar with this build, and finding something less challenging and more restful. Alligator wrestling comes readily to mind! :D
Simply outstanding to these old eyes! 8)
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Simply magnificent modelling - Des would be proud!
Bravo!
BC
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Remarkable work Ken,this has been a fascinating build to follow and a very fitting tribute,I'm sure Des would have loved it.
Congratulations on such a superb model,
Cheers,
Dave.
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One word - superb!!
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A masterpiece. I enjoyed following, congratulations (I have run out of superlatives to describe your work of art).
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(https://i.postimg.cc/XY3yLkDJ/forrest-gump.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Thanks for following along and commenting.
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Ken, the final result is a real beauty! You don't need a kit anymore ...
Cheers,
Frank
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I have already commented on the Hanriot so I will simply add that the beaching Dolly really adds to the Brilliance!
RAGIII
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Gary has expressed my sentiments entirely - that is a masterpiece of scratch building. A superb model in every way and a real tribute to Des and Adreienne. Mnay congratulations on a brilliant model.
Stephen.
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Very fine result. True eye candy
8)
buzby
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Ken , very beautiful craftmenship on this build from start to finish . End results are nothing but amazing !
Terri
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a true jewel indeed!
can’t wait to see what you have in mind for the next build!
ciao
edo
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Thanks for commenting Frank, Rick, Stephen, Buz, Terri and Edo.
For the next scratchbuild, think American.
Don't know when that will be, though.
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Masterpiece.
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Ken,
The skill level of modellers on this forum never ceases to amaze me and this build is no exception.
An unusual subject and masterfully created,
Mike
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WOOOW, that's really cool! 8)
Andreas
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Thanks for the kind comments Przemol, Mike, and Andreas. I appreciate them.
I do look forward to seeing more of your work, from all of you.
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Just to echo others - this is a superlative model, a great subject, rendered with amazing skill.
Slightly biased as a lover of seaplanes!
Mark
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Amazing!!!
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Nice build of a nice looking bird
Steve
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Ah yes, so you have!
This is a lovely build Ken, it oozes quality
Richard