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Title: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on February 05, 2019, 11:12:26 PM
Mates, I am extremely happy to join this group build, I miss Des a lot and I want to dedicate this build to him.

I chose to have a double build based on the Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 kits I have.

The DIII kit is the old Eduard kit and it was a gift (very appreciated) from Rob Hart. He put in the box the man in the moon decals I will be using for this plane: Jasta 18 Hans Burckhard von Buttlar. Avelin, January 1918 (he changed his marking to the hunting horn in February). Rob was the one who pointed me to this forum in 2012 from the glorious Swanny's forum and this is also a way to finally thank him after a long time!

The DIIIa is a Blue Max kit, I have no idea yet of which livery it will have, I was thinking to the winged sword of Werner Hertel - jasta40, but I will examine the decals both kits provide and decide.
I guess some aftermarket will be needed seen the age of those kits....

At the moment I am taken by a non WW1 build and I should be able to complete it by the end of this month, so I will start my build(s) from March.

I'm going to post some pictures of the kits this evening.

Ciao

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: RAGIII on February 06, 2019, 09:25:50 AM
The Pfalz is a lovely aircraft and Eduards kit is not bad although it is not quite up to todays standards. I am sure you will do a great dual build.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on February 08, 2019, 09:51:58 PM
Thanks for replying Rick...
You talk about the Eduard Kit... I will show the Blue Max one... a lot worst!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on February 08, 2019, 10:00:38 PM
Hallo guys,
here are the usual introductory photos, the two kits are very basic, the Eduard (1996) is better than the Blue Max which is much a lower quality.

Here we go:

EDUARD:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-001.jpg)

Sprues "side A"
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-002.jpg)

Sprues "side B"
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-003.jpg)

Detail of the cockpit side panels
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-004.jpg)

Detail of the top wing radiator
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-005.jpg)

Engine PE fret, acetate sheet
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-006.jpg)

Decals: Man in the moon with pipe (rob Hart gift)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-007.jpg)

Decals in the box (I found two identical sheets)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-008.jpg)

Instructions
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-009.jpg)


BLUE MAX:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-010.jpg)

Sprues "side A"
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-011.jpg)

Sprues "side b"
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-014.jpg)

Detail of the top wing radiator
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-012.jpg)

Engine
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-013.jpg)

Many pieces in white metal (I don't like the struts and the undercarriage being so thin and subject to deformation... )
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-016.jpg)

Detail of the white metal Spandau MGs (acceptable)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-017.jpg)

Basic Decals
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-015.jpg)

There is no instruction sheet, only this "certificate"
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-018.jpg)

This is the version I will make for the Eduard kit
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-019.jpg)

Still don't know about the other... both have the winged sword of Rudolf Berthold, I would prefer to have a different colour schema.
As I said I was thinking to the winged sword of Werner Hertel - jasta40 is anyone willing to get rid of his winged sword (in 48th)?

I also thought to use the Alfred Lenz Jasta 22 decals from the Eduard kit to make a silver plane, but it is a D III while the Blue Max kit is a D IIIa...

Open to suggetsions, I have time before I start.

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: Monty on February 10, 2019, 01:40:16 AM
Hi Antonio, not one but two builds! And of a really beautiful aircraft - just love it! Also very interesting to see you tackle a Blue Max kit - these were quite state - of - the - art in their day, but have been surpassed for sure - but still very worth building! And very interesting for us as we follow along!

Regards,
Marc
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: gbrivio on February 10, 2019, 06:55:33 AM
The Pfalz DIII were the most elegant of the fighters, and here are two on their way. Graet choice, good luck with the build.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: GAJouette on February 10, 2019, 07:47:48 AM
 Antonio,
Outstanding choices my old friend. I've no doubt your Pfalz's will absolutely beautiful. The best of luck to you.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: RAGIII on February 10, 2019, 07:50:47 AM
Wow, I missed the Blue Max entry for some reason. You are a Brave soul tackling that Blue Max kit. I am sure you will do it up right!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on February 11, 2019, 03:31:41 AM
Thanks everybody, your kind words are encouraging!
I have found in my decals box some Decals of the different Carlos Meyer Baldo planes (see picture attached), I bought them because I like the drooling bulldog markings.
He was using a DIIIa in Jasta 4, and it's a silver livery with the black spiral band wrapping the fuselage.
I chose this as second livery.

There are other different interpretations of this livery but I dedicde to follow the one proposed by the Aztec leaf.

Should anyone have different information please let me know!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: RAGIII on February 11, 2019, 04:39:32 AM
The Jasta 4 scheme should look terrific! Looking forward to your build even more now!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: Bughunter on February 11, 2019, 04:59:34 AM
Oh, that builds are a heavy task! Even the Eduard is one of the first kits of that company after starting with accessories.

The later new tool D.IIIa kit is a real gem, I build it already twice. It is now also some years old, but still a great kit on a very high level compared to the latest kits.
There were also a variant with a new sprue containing D.III fuselages (I own a Limited Edition dual combo), but it was later no more available up to now. May be the tool is damaged. In opposite the D.IIIa was released very often as Profipack and Weekend.

My deep respect to try to build those old beasts. (Me would drop it to bin and buy one of the new releases.)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on February 11, 2019, 04:01:24 PM
You all are right guys, the kits are outdated and have a poor overall quality, I would give Eduard a 6/10 mark and 4/10 to the Blue Max, but I have those boxes in my stash and don't want to spend more money purchasing new tools.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on March 04, 2019, 02:45:06 AM
Hallo friends,
here are some aftermarket stuff I purchased before starting the real work. I am now ready to weigh anchor.

I got the Black Dog detail kit, essentially because I needed the exhaust, but I will evaluate if the other parts are worth to be used on the DIIIa Blue Max
Gaspatch Spandaus for the DIIIa
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-020.jpg)

Pavla 1/48 Engine to replace the Blue Max one
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-021.jpg)

Some Windsock Datafile
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-022.jpg)

And here are the instructions to use the Aztec Decals
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-023.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-024.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-025.jpg)

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: Monty on March 04, 2019, 04:07:55 AM
Some nice accessories to make things easier, there, Antonio! I do like the black spiral... Regards, Marc
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on March 04, 2019, 04:35:08 AM
Some nice accessories to make things easier, there, Antonio! I do like the black spiral... Regards, Marc
Yes Monty, I also have purchased a couple of jars of GERMAN PFALZ SILBERGRAU MISTER KIT  GC17 for the DIIIa.
I am a bit worried by the black spiral, but will manage it in some way.

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: RAGIII on March 04, 2019, 04:59:29 AM
Some nice accessories to make things easier, there, Antonio! I do like the black spiral... Regards, Marc
Yes Monty, I also have purchased a couple of jars of GERMAN PFALZ SILBERGRAU MISTER KIT  GC17 for the DIIIa.
I am a bit worried by the black spiral, but will manage it in some way.

Antonio

The spiral isn't easy but not as hard as most think. I am attaching a link to my old build of the WNW kit. The only thing I would do differently now is use Tamiya tape for curves. The old tape was much more difficult to get around curves. Best of luck on your effort and I hope this helps!
RAGIII

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=6115.120
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on March 05, 2019, 06:05:26 PM
Thanks Rick, I had already your link in my notepad, very inspiring and indeed helpful!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on April 06, 2019, 08:18:58 PM
Hallo everybody, I did not forget this GB, I continue to nibble at the other life few hours now and then...
Here are some pics I took from time to time:

The BLUE MAX fuselage has a very thick wall, and it's really uneven. I decided to keep it as it is, just had to remove that weird bun inside the nose.
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-026.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-027.jpg)
The right half shows the horrible clump, on the left one it has been already removed.

Decisions had to be taken on the engines:

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-028.jpg)
This photo shows the BLUE MAX engine and some resin details from the BLACK DOG set.
I decided to use these pieces plus a couple of pieces from the EDUARD kit.

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-029.jpg)
Here you see the full PAVLA engine plus the details. I will use it for the EDUARD kit and will use the exhaust tube from the kit (light grey piece here).

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-030.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-031.jpg)
The exhaust of the BLACK DOG set has a hole on the tip of the tube (left) the EDUARD one (right) was full and I had to dig a bit in it.

I decided to build the interiors structure of the cockpit in both the planes, also because there is nothing in any of the kits.
So I found a schema, reduced it to 1/48 and am using it to rebuild the internal frames piece to piece
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-032.jpg)

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-033.jpg)
Thisis the BLUE MAX fuselage, I had to glue some plasticard to hold the plan where the engine will stay and traced the position of frames G (behind the seat) and D (behind the engine)

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-034.jpg)
Same for the EDUARD fuselage, here they casted the vertical and horizontal frames, I had to file them off but tried to leave at least the tace of their positions that, according to my documentation, is fair enough acceptable.

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-035.jpg)
Here are pieces D and G for both the kit, they were cut from a 0,5 mm plasticard sheet and filed until they allowed the two alves to lock.
The BLUE MAX are totally different from the original drawings, the EDUARD pieces are fully compatible, I just had to file away a few plastic from the external edges (I guess because of the thickness of the molded plastic)

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-036.jpg)
The wooden plan holding the engine: the EDUARD piece and a piece built by me, the BLUE MAX kit did not supply any piece to hold the engine.

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-037.jpg)
Here is a dry fit of the engine with the related pieces.

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-038.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-039.jpg)
I drilled the two air intakes that are on the plane cheeks, both the kit have them "close"

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-040.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-041.jpg)
Here is where I am at today: Engine and bearer painted and glued.

That's all for today!!!!

Thanks for watching

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: RAGIII on April 06, 2019, 09:36:27 PM
You are doing some outstanding work on these two builds Antonio! Your engine and exhausts are coming out quite nicely. The bulkheads and formers are turning out great and I am looking forward to seeing the completed interior structures!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: gbrivio on April 06, 2019, 11:55:06 PM
Antonio, you are doing an excellent work with making two old kits into good models. I'm looking forward to your next progress int this double build.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on April 07, 2019, 01:10:23 AM
Thanks Rick and Giuseppe for stopping by and commenting...
I'm going on with cockpit "wood"work
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: xan on April 07, 2019, 02:29:59 AM
Very interesting Andonio!
I have two PFALZ too, so I fallow your post with very high interest!
The blue max seems to be nicer at the end, but both are very acceptable...

Xan
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on April 07, 2019, 03:02:46 AM
Thank you Xan, the BM fuselage has good and crisp details on the external but inside is really a tragedy! It has a very limited number of pieces.
The engine is fair enough but it's too small in my opinion, and its details are cast in white metal which I don't like at all.
The Eduard is good, well finished and has all the pieces you need to have a good build, the engine is very similar to the BM but at a slightly lower level, that's why I took the pavla resin engine which is really good.

As far as the cockpit details are concerned, both the kits are inadequate.

That's a kind of challenge I like, although it slows further my slowness! :-O

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on April 26, 2019, 11:59:48 PM
Hallo guys, I have a small update: the restoration of the cockpits goes on, here are a couple of pics that show the state of the art.

BLUE MAX DIIIa
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-042.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-044.jpg)

EDUARD DIII
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-043.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-045.jpg)

In both cases I had to file out some pieces of the engine to let it fit into the fuselage...

I hope to sit longer at the bench during the weekend...

Thanks for watching

Antonio

 
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: RAGIII on April 27, 2019, 01:56:45 AM
Both are coming along quite nicely Antonio! The engines look great in place.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: Alexis on April 27, 2019, 09:37:43 AM
Both are coming along great with the details  8)



Terri
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on April 27, 2019, 08:20:08 PM
Thanks Rick and Terri, I'm working at the moment on completing the internal framework of the DIIIa
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: lone modeller on May 05, 2019, 04:11:40 AM
Andonio I have missed this until now - (as I have missed many others!). Is this a restoration job or just a reclaimation of two decent models from not very promising starts? Looking at these I am pleased that I only scratch build - it is easier!!

Both are looking very good and as usual two very fine models are now in the making - albeit with only a little help from the manufacturers.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on May 05, 2019, 05:54:20 PM
Thank you Stephen for stopping by and commenting.
Yes I had these two kits in my stash and decided to turn them into models, as far as the Blue Max one is concerned it appears just like a plastic "suggestion", then it's up to the builder to achieve something acceptable.
The Eduard one is a kit I am fond of, it was a donation of Rob Hart (from Swanny's) who was the one suggesting me to contact Des and join this beautiful forum.
That's why I decided to dedicate it to Des' memory.

The Eduard kit is indeed a "baseline" kit, but it is a good quality and moreover leaves much less than the Blue Max one to the builder goodwill!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: PrzemoL on May 07, 2019, 08:50:44 AM
You have opted for a hard job on these... So much different from WNW :)
Very fine work all around, looking forward to see more of it.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on May 07, 2019, 07:17:34 PM
Thank you Przemol, I have nearly completed the cockpit elements of the DIIIa (BM) yesterday I started moving on with the DIII (ED) cockpit interiors, much easier.
I have not done yet photos, will make them together when both the cockpits will be at the same stage.

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on June 17, 2019, 01:41:40 AM
Hallo friends, I apologize for not being able to participate more in the forum, by the way I managed to steal to real life some half hours here and there and take my project forward, I still follow all the magnificent build threads going on here and of course I feel like an ant in front of elephants!
:-)

Here is the current state of things: I primed the two fuselage halves, and  built and painted most of the elements that will go inside the two birds:

EDUARD
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-046.jpg)

BLUE MAX
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-047.jpg)

To paint the interiors (and some of the cockpit elements) I did not use the XF 76 as indicated on the WNW instructions (I couldn't find it from my local shop, so I mixed
Lifecolor UA 074 (Light blue RLM 76) with a couple of drops of Lifecolor UA 004 (Interior Green) and this is the result, I am satisfied with it.

Then I went on to the cockpit elements:

EDUARD
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-048.jpg)
Here I scratch built only the compass (just right of the ammo magazine) and the seat cushion (made with DAS and 5 tiny plasticard discs)

BLUE MAX
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-049.jpg)
Here everything is built from scratch but the control stick (provided by the kit in white metal, not bad).
I also found the seat in my spare box and made the cushion using halves of plasticard round rods.

Thanks for watching dear friends, I hope next update will be in a shorter time!!!!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: RAGIII on June 17, 2019, 02:13:14 AM
Nicely done interiors. The detail bits are looking great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on June 17, 2019, 02:15:18 AM
Nicely done interiors. The detail bits are looking great!
RAGIII

thank you Rick!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: Alexis on June 17, 2019, 08:55:26 AM
Both are coming along really so far , i do like how you mix for the interior turned out .



Terri
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on June 17, 2019, 04:52:44 PM
Thank you Terri!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: aliluke on June 17, 2019, 07:43:27 PM
Looking really good. 1/48 seems so tiny after working in 1/32. Getting the small details in, as you are doing, is very impressive.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on June 17, 2019, 08:40:44 PM
Thank you Alistair.

According to you guys and girl, should I spray a satin varnish on the inside?

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: AndRoby67 on June 18, 2019, 08:20:22 AM
Hi And(t)onio!
Happy to find you here! I'm looking that you became better and better in building WWI kits. And you choose not two simple tasks!
So I'm seated looking at your work, beautiful.
In the attachments a suggestion for your D.IIIa, if you are scared by the black spiral typical of Jasta 4. (I NEVER try this kind of decoration on my kits!)
Cheers!
Ciao!
Roberto
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on June 18, 2019, 08:55:37 PM
Hi And(t)onio!
Happy to find you here! I'm looking that you became better and better in building WWI kits. And you choose not two simple tasks!
So I'm seated looking at your work, beautiful.
In the attachments a suggestion for your D.IIIa, if you are scared by the black spiral typical of Jasta 4. (I NEVER try this kind of decoration on my kits!)
Cheers!
Ciao!
Roberto

Hi Roberto,
thanks for your suggestion, very interesting indeed, but to be honest I am more scared by the lozenge on the wings than by the black spiral !!!!!
:-D

Thanks for your appreciation of my progresses, I just manage to steal a few minutes here and there to real life and don't bother too much about improvements, I think  to some extent they come as a natural evolution, but I keep doing the same errors and keep old (sometimes bad) habits... I am satisfied all in all, modeling helps emptying my head of many things and enjoy the time I succeed in dedicating to it...

Grazie

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: kensar on June 18, 2019, 09:42:37 PM
You are making good progress and nice scratchbuilding to improve the kit!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on June 18, 2019, 10:48:44 PM
You are making good progress and nice scratchbuilding to improve the kit!


Thanks Ken

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: AndRoby67 on June 19, 2019, 06:36:46 AM
Hi Andonio!
I think that you have expressed the real goal of modelling. I ever said that is my "happy island", a safe and quiet place only for myself.
I have other profiles if you want to change your subject (for example the red/white of Jasta 18) but only if you need.
I'm your follower!
Roberto
P.S.:...is really strange to communicate between us in english!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on June 19, 2019, 02:54:50 PM
...
P.S.:...is really strange to communicate between us in english!

Yes indeed it is!!!!

Thanks for your kind offer for different profiles, but I have chosen that one and will try to make it!
;-)

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: AndRoby67 on June 22, 2019, 06:39:35 AM
Perfect!
So I keep myself seated and comfortably looking at your work!
Roberto
P.S.:..some posts ago you asked for infos for interiors finishing....I remember a discussion in "The Aerodrome" about the fact that the famous "Silbergrau" gloss finishing typical on Pfalzes was used for interiors too...
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on July 10, 2019, 08:44:02 PM
Dear mates,
unfortunately, due to recurring real life troubles, I was not able to proceed in any way on this job since last posting, I will take it to the end but can't predict a completion date.
For the GB deadline I won't make it, so I ask Dave (or whoever is in charge of this) to move the thread to the "Under Construction" section.

I am sorry for this and of course this does not decrease the affection I still feel for Des and for Adrienne as well.

Thanks for following so far, I'll see you again on the other thread.

Ciao

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: Alexis on July 11, 2019, 10:48:08 AM
Will still following along with your progress , you are doing a wonderful so far . Hope that life will be more relaxed in the future for you .




Terri
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on July 11, 2019, 03:20:09 PM
Thank Terri, your wishes are much appreciated!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: kensar on July 11, 2019, 09:40:33 PM
Do keep posting progress as you can.  Life's troubles hit all of us, so you are not alone in that regard.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on July 11, 2019, 10:56:01 PM
Do keep posting progress as you can.  Life's troubles hit all of us, so you are not alone in that regard.

Thank you so much Ken, you're right, I am not alone, moreover I don't feel alone here at all!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: RAGIII on July 11, 2019, 11:06:50 PM
Sorry to hear you are having difficulties in your life. I am looking forward to following along when you get back to this project!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on July 11, 2019, 11:14:37 PM
Thank you Rick, I look forward to sitting back at the workbench!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: aliluke on July 28, 2019, 04:54:39 PM
Looking forward to your further progress Antonio. On the basis of the work to date it'll be great.

Cheers,
Alistair
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: Mike Norris on July 30, 2019, 05:51:58 AM
Hi Antonio,
We all have times when what we want to do has to be put to one side.
I'm sure you'll manage to complete your builds and present us with the final results soon,

Mike
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 double build
Post by: andonio64 on July 30, 2019, 07:33:16 PM
Alistair, Mike, thans for your comments, yes, I need some time to get back to the bench.

By the way I had a few minutes yesterday to complete the interiors of the Eduard kit.

Soon I'll close the fuse and put some new pics.

Ciao and thanks again!

Antonio
Title: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on September 11, 2019, 07:23:20 PM
Tagged the thread as requested...

I hope to get back to the workbench ASAP!

Thanks for the new chance!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 11, 2019, 07:35:34 PM
Tagged the thread as requested...

I hope to get back to the workbench ASAP!

Thanks for the new chance!

Antonio

We can do it, Antonio!
I need to get a move on...

vB
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: AndRoby67 on September 12, 2019, 12:10:41 AM
I read now.
Hope everything will be better and you may come back soon to the workbench IPPP (Il Più Presto Possibile!) or ASAP.
Big hug,
Roberto
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: lone modeller on September 12, 2019, 02:15:06 AM
I am with Bob and Andy - try to finish yours Andonio.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on September 12, 2019, 07:10:07 AM
I hope you are in a good place to finish these two!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on December 02, 2019, 03:10:49 AM
Hallo dear forum mates, I finally succeeded in getting back to the workbench for some hour, I completed the two cockpits and here are some pictures.
I ask the forum mods to move this thread to the "Under construction" section.

Thanks

BLUE MAX kit, For this kit everything was scratch built but the control stick...

here is the port half, I had to cut a bit the horizontal elements otherwise the seat woul have not fitted
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-050.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-051.jpg)

Starboard half
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-053.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-052.jpg)

EDUARD Kit. On this kit I was able to use some parts provided into the box.
Port half
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-056.jpg)

Starboard half
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-054.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-055.jpg)

The EDUARD fuselage is now closed, I am going to close the BLUE MAX one.

Thanks for watching!

Antonio

Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Radarman on December 02, 2019, 04:13:41 AM
Antonio,
It's good to see you back up and posting your build.
I look forward to watching tis one.
                                                  Kevin
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on December 02, 2019, 04:31:18 AM
Antonio,
It's good to see you back up and posting your build.
I look forward to watching tis one.
                                                  Kevin

Thanks Kevin, it's nice to be back!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on December 02, 2019, 11:28:36 AM
Great to see you back  :) Nice up-date on your builds , both are coming along really well and I like the detail  8)



Terri
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: lcarroll on December 02, 2019, 01:58:23 PM
Antonio, nice to see this one still progressing. I'll ask Dave to move it to Under Construction on his return from holiday, I don't have that function available.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on December 02, 2019, 04:00:06 PM
Thanks Terri and Lance, your comments are really appreciated!

Thanks Lance for taking care of this

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Manni on December 02, 2019, 04:17:01 PM
Nice to see you back. Relax and enjoy your build.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on December 03, 2019, 06:42:47 AM
Great to see you back on this one! Looking good!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: gbrivio on December 03, 2019, 06:09:21 PM
I'm also still off my bench, it's life... Glad to see you back to your build, adding new details.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on December 03, 2019, 07:13:09 PM
Manni, Rick, Giuseppe... thanks for your warm and appreciated greetings!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: lone modeller on December 06, 2019, 04:54:06 AM
Only just found this too Andonio. Good to see that it is back in progress again - let's hope that this time you can finish it!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on December 08, 2019, 02:15:02 AM
Thank you Stephen, I have closed both the fuselages, I am working now on the lower wings of the Blue Max.

This is the lower left wing as found in the box
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-057.jpg)

A detail oft the surface:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-058.jpg)

Here is the lower right wing as I started smoothing it:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-059.jpg)

Here is the lower surfaces of both the lower wings:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-060.jpg)

Moreover, here they are compared with the Pfalz D IIIa at war vol.1 schemas (I hope I am not infringing any copyright)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-061.jpg)

The wings ave a wrong profile at their tips and I am shaping it better, but they also appear to be larger but I won't dare filing that excess...

Thanks for watching.

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on December 09, 2019, 12:29:36 AM
You are doing an excellent job reshaping and smoothing out the wings. Looking forward to the next update.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on December 12, 2019, 12:38:38 PM
The Blumax kit is not an easy one , but you are doing a wonderful job on her . Looking forward on seeing the next stage of your progress . I almost feel like pulling  Pfalz out of the stash  :-X



Terri
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on December 15, 2019, 08:41:36 PM
Thanks Terri!

Here are the lower wings of the Blue Max (DIIIa) slightly improved on the shape:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-062.jpg)

Here are the finished wings: I smoothed the surface and used some plasticard strips (Thickness 0.25 mm, width 1 mm on bottom surfaces and 0.75 mm on top).
The white details are scratch built by me.
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-063.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-064.jpg)

The center section in the BM kit is separated from the wings and I will use pins to get them together, the Eduard kit is better having cast the bottom wings in a unique piece.
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-065.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-066.jpg)

Thanks for watching!
Have a relaxing sunday

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on December 16, 2019, 04:51:32 AM
Nice job on replacing the wing details and the re-shaping . Sweet ! :)



Terri
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on December 17, 2019, 03:37:49 AM
The Blue Max wings are certainly better after your fix! Looking great.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on December 18, 2019, 02:02:22 AM
Thanks Rick & Terri.
Sunday evening I put pins into the central part of the lower wing and pierced 4 holes in the two lower wings.
Next step is to drill holes in the wings (both upper and lower for both the kits) where to place the rigging or the eyelets.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on December 26, 2019, 04:32:03 AM
Hallo friends, Merry Christmas to everybody!

I went on with the build and while checking the fit of the struts on the lower wings I decided to make from scratch the two struts of the Blue Max...

Here you can see:
No.1 - one strut of the Eduard kit
No.3 - the Blue Max strut in white metal
No.4 - the "raw" piece I cut from a plasticard sheet 1 mm thick
No.2 - the first self made strut ready
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-067.jpg)

Here are both the struts finished:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-068.jpg)

Ciao!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on December 27, 2019, 01:53:13 AM
Very nice work on the struts Antonio!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on December 27, 2019, 01:59:42 AM
Thank you Rick!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on December 28, 2019, 11:22:56 AM
I'm very late to reply or your latest update , my apologizes . I really like how your scratched struts turned out . I'm not a fan on white metal struts . No flex , they just bend . ( My Bluemax kit has white metal struts ) . On the Eduard kit do you plane on changing the angel of the mounting holes on the wings ? ( it aids I found out when I built multiple Pfalz D.IIIa ) .


Terri
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on January 04, 2020, 12:32:19 AM
I'm very late to reply or your latest update , my apologizes . I really like how your scratched struts turned out . I'm not a fan on white metal struts . No flex , they just bend . ( My Bluemax kit has white metal struts ) . On the Eduard kit do you plane on changing the angel of the mounting holes on the wings ? ( it aids I found out when I built multiple Pfalz D.IIIa ) .


Terri

Hallo Terri,
this time it's me to be late! I was not home until yesterday night and usually I don't use my phone to manage my accounts...
While the white metal parts are good for details such as machine guns they are totally unsuitable for long pieces that need to bear some tension such as struts, undercarriage...
So I will make from scratch also the other pieces of the BM kit (undercarriage and cabane).

I did not understand what did you mean when you say to change the angle of mounting holes in the wings of the Eduard kit.
The lower wings are cast together along with the center piece (say the floor of the cockpit) and the upper wings are one piece as well, so they don't have mounting holes...
Are you talking about the holes where the struts should fit?

Please help me understand, maybe there's a problem in the Eduard kit I haven't discovered yet!

I take the occasion to send my warmest wishes of a beautiful 2020 to everybody!!!

Antonio


Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on January 04, 2020, 10:48:11 AM
Hi Stephen , yes the mounting holes for the struts . The holes are cast so the struts stand straight up . The inter struts are set at an outward angle . By re-drilling the holes to meet that angle of the strut you will get a better fit . I have built 6 Eduard kits and did this with all builds , worked like a charm .
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on January 04, 2020, 06:51:08 PM
Thanks Terri I'll keep this in mind. Will have a thought on this.

Antonio
Title: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa ... PLEASE MOVE ME!
Post by: andonio64 on June 20, 2020, 07:38:36 PM
Hallo Guys and Dolls,
after more than 5 months from my last post here I am again with my pfalz duo build.
Apart from covid and lockdown this year has brought with it other major and minor bad things... one will be probably over this early afternoon, in the meantime here and there I found some time crumbles to go a bit ahead, but the progresses were not meaningful and not always deserving a picture!

I have some new pics that I will post immediately after this re-opening post, in the meantime I ask Dave to move this thread into the "Under Construction section, if possible.
If not I will keep posting here.

Thanks

Antonio
Title: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on June 20, 2020, 07:54:54 PM
As I had done for the interwing struts of the Blue Max DIIIa, I made from scratch the cabane struts of the same plane, as the other struts they came in white metal which is difficult to polish and to handle and has an uneven surface I don't like.

Here you can see, for comparison sake:
No.1 - one strut of the Eduard kit
No.3 - the Blue Max strut in white metal
No.4 - the "raw" piece I cut from a plasticard sheet 1 mm thick before being worked
No.2 - the first self made strut ready

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-069.jpg)

Here are the two struts ready, you can see the great flex-i-file tool I use a lot in these cases

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-070.jpg)

I had closed and sealed with putty the two fuselages:

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-071.jpg)

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-072.jpg)

And I took care of the tail of the Blue Max, from the Black Dog resin kit I had purchased.

Holes pierced in the fuselage:

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-073.jpg)

Pins inserted in the horizontal planes

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-074.jpg)

And this is how it looks all together onto the plane...
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-075.jpg)

There is a gap due to the thickness of the Blue Max rear end, although the tail planes are not fully on their place and the gap should show less once glued all together, I think I will file a little the left stabilizer.

I also painted and assembled the 2 Machine guns (Gaspatch), will post later a photo of them.
I drilled two long slots in front of the cockpit to let the 2 Spandaus fit.

Thanks for watching and I hope to show something new soon!!!!

Antonio


Title: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on June 20, 2020, 08:24:55 PM
Hi again,
another information I wanted to share with you is that as far as the Blue Max DIIIa livery is concerned, looking around to take again over this build I saw Brad Cancian's beutiful “Müller’s Raben”

(have a look here: https://www.aussiemodeller.com.au/pages/Gallery/Aircraft_A-D/Cancian_PfalzDIIIA.html (https://www.aussiemodeller.com.au/pages/Gallery/Aircraft_A-D/Cancian_PfalzDIIIA.html))

and this took to my mind that I have purchased years ago the Pheon Decals sheet: Jasta 18 Volume Two "Raben’s Ravens"

So I decided to make that version.
(https://www.aussiemodeller.com.au/Images/Gallery/Cancian_misc/PfalzDIIIA/pd3comp01_V.jpg)

The Eduard kit wil stay as the Man in the moon with pipe of Hans Burckhard von Buttlar, a duo of Jasta 18 pilots!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on June 22, 2020, 09:06:31 AM
Nice to see these ones back on the bench , both are coming along really well so far :) :) :)


Terri
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on June 23, 2020, 12:18:55 AM
Great to see you going on these two again! The two fuselages look amazing glued together. With a bit of work on that left side I am sure you will nail the tail plane and elevator! I am looking forward to your progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on June 23, 2020, 06:00:29 PM
Thanks Terri & Rick!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: lone modeller on June 25, 2020, 07:12:08 PM
Sorry to be slow finding this Andonio - it has popped up out of the blue!

Good to see that you are working on these again. The fuselages and your new struts are very impressive - the struts in particular are a huge improvement on the kit parts. I am looking forward to following these to completion - even if you have to take your time to do so.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: gbrivio on June 26, 2020, 01:37:47 AM
Glad to see updates on this, you are doing really well on these old kits.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on August 17, 2020, 05:10:06 PM
 :-[
Hallo friends,
here are some new tiny steps from the longest build in the world (source: Guinness World Record), I went on with preparing the tail planes of the DIIa (Blue Max):
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-076.jpg)

I also filed the moving horizontal plan to make it match better the fixed plans:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-077.jpg)

Here is a group photo of all the resin pieces making up the tail of the DIIIa with control horns scratch made:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-078.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-079.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-080.jpg)


Here is the Horizontal plan of the DIII (Eduard): it's a unique piece and I decided to leave it as it is
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-081.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-082.jpg)

Same story for the vertical plans, I just added more evident hinges:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-083.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-084.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-085.jpg)

Thanks for watching!

Antonio



Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on August 18, 2020, 02:50:21 AM
Nice work on the control horns. You are making progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on August 18, 2020, 06:28:02 PM
Thanks Rick,
yes I am making slow progresses  and wait to have a meaningful set of photos before publishing something...

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: kensar on August 19, 2020, 01:42:54 AM
Your additional details will really dress up the basic kit.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: lone modeller on August 19, 2020, 03:32:08 AM
It may be taking a long time Andonio, but it is still a high quality model that you are making.

As for the record for making a model - I had two which took over 30 years to complete....!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Bughunter on August 19, 2020, 05:15:23 PM
here are some new tiny steps from the longest build in the world (source: Guinness World Record)
Antonio, as long there is a progress and - the most important thing - you have fun, all is okay ;)

Cheers,
Frank

PS: Speed is measured in Angstrom per week ;D
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on August 19, 2020, 06:54:23 PM
Thanks guys for your support, I am at the workbench now, I just added to the Blue Max the Machine Guns belt feed and unload things (what's their name?) and turned the tail skid of the same kit from a lump of plastic into something more acceptable, I think this evening will go on and then share some new photos.
I moved a couple of Ångström further!  ;D ;D ;D

Yes, even at this low speed I am having fun!   ;)
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: jeroen_R90S on August 19, 2020, 07:20:44 PM
Enjoying yourself doing this is IMHO the most important... I've had models I stopped working on after settling some issues, that still aren't finished, but I still had fun doing that, even if there is no final end result. I suppose my mindset is a bit different in that regard :)

Nice progress and improvements on some tough kits!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on August 20, 2020, 11:03:03 PM
Nice wrok on the control horns  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on August 21, 2020, 03:18:40 AM
Thanks Jeroen and Terri...

I worked a bit on the kits (mainly on the BM) and here I can show the tail skid restored and detailed:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-086.jpg)
The red mark shows the point where I'll cut the white bar used at the moment to handle the piece.

And the things to drive the ammunition belt to and from the MGs
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-087.jpg)

I also joined the three parts of the BM lower wing, now I am completing some detail on the Eduard's lower wing and will glue them to the fuselages.

I started caring of the BM upper wings, I scribed the ailerons to make them more visible, then the right half wing fell to the floor and the aileron broke in 2 pieces (the plastic is very brittle) detaching from the wing.
I did not want to detach the ailerons from the wings but now to repair the right one I decided to take them off:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-088.jpg)

That's all for today

Thanks for watching!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: GazzaS on August 21, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
Very nice work, Antonio!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on August 21, 2020, 09:33:28 PM
Tail skid looks good as well as the ammo feeds , well done Andonio  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on August 21, 2020, 11:11:55 PM
Tail skid and ammo chutes look great. Looking forward to more!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on August 22, 2020, 02:50:02 AM
Thank you Gazza, Terri and Rick, new photos are coming...

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-089.jpg)

The birds have some wings now.
As soon as the putty will dry I will file it and publish some more photo.

Then I worked on the radiator shutter on both the models:

BLUE MAX

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-090.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-091.jpg)

EDUARD

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-092.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-093.jpg)

Here I used just the PE rectangle because the handle was horribly flat, to give it some thickness and insert a 3Dish handle, I inserted a flat piece of plasticard and made a hole.
I also had to raise the two side rails to "let the slider slide".

In both cases I made a ring where the handles slide as seen in many photos on my references.

Thanks again for your attention!

Antonio


Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on August 22, 2020, 07:51:27 AM
Excellent work on the shutter handle!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on August 22, 2020, 03:16:06 PM
Thank you Rick
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: GazzaS on August 22, 2020, 07:29:44 PM
Really nice, Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on August 27, 2020, 03:12:54 AM
Thank you Gaz!
I would like to purchase some propeller logo decals, which propeller brand was in use?
- DIII Hans Burckhard von Buttlar. January 1918, serial unknown
- DIIIa Hans Müller. June 1918, serial unknown

Thanks for helping

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on October 03, 2020, 08:22:56 PM
Hallo,
I went a little forward on this build thread:

I scratched  the mechanisms that control ailerons on top of the upper wing. I used a plasticard rod (side = 0,75 mm) and cut 2 circles from a plasticard tube using the razorblade saw with 3 blades and 2 x 0,75 mm spacers.

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-094.jpg)

Oops, I don't see the picture and I can't see all the other pictures of my thread...

Any idea?
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on October 03, 2020, 08:36:24 PM
Hallo,
I went a little forward on this build thread:

I scratched  the mechanisms that control ailerons on top of the upper wing. I used a plasticard rod (side = 0,75 mm) and cut 2 circles from a plasticard tube using the razorblade saw with 3 blades and 2 x 0,75 mm spacers.

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-094.jpg)

Oops, I don't see the picture and I can't see all the other pictures of my thread...

Any idea?

It has something to do with Google Chrome and your server. Ask Mike Norris as he had the same issue. I went to Microsoft Edge and the photos show! Nicely done!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on October 04, 2020, 12:29:41 AM
Thank you so much Rick, I have sent a PM to Mike to get some advice.

I also worked on the Blue Max DIIIa top wing:

I filed out the horrible "rib tapes" (here is how they were, I forced the contrast to let them show):
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-098.jpg)

made pin holes and put metal pins in the 5 pieces making up the wing
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-095.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-099.jpg)

Here are the pieces joined, just without glue, they will need some putty and probably some thin plasticard piece where the half round opening of the cabane joins the trailing edge
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-096.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-097.jpg)

Thanks for looking!

Antonio

Title: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa duo: back from the past!
Post by: andonio64 on March 23, 2021, 01:05:20 AM
Hi!
The most elderly among you may remember this thread starded when pandemic was not even a known term for most of us...
It was February 2019!

Last post was in the fall of 2020, since then, as I wrote preiously, a lot of bad things happened to me and my wife and we are still in troubled waters although a light shines at the horizon!

By the way I find some time to go on with the works every now and then and here is the result achieved so far which is meaningful enough to be documented:

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-100.jpg)

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-101.jpg)

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-102.jpg)

The two friends are finally looking as planes now.

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-104.jpg)

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-105.jpg)

...top wings

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-107.jpg)

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-108.jpg)

...a few more details

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-103.jpg)

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-106.jpg)

Looking forward to posting something more soon I thank you for your patience and attention!

Antonio

Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on March 23, 2021, 01:17:26 AM
It is Great to see progress on these two Antonio! Both are looking fantastic and I love the colorful schemes! Well done update!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on March 23, 2021, 01:24:38 AM
Thank you Rick, I am glad as well for having something to show!

I like the propellers, although I would have preferred to coat them with clear yellow but it was totally dry and I had no chance to get another fresh jar in short times so  coated them in orange.
I also applied some decals of the brands.
The DIII is a plastic prop, the DIIIa is a white metal, both from the box.

I made an error: I primed the DIII with white primer and the DIIIa with gray primer, I had to do the other way round, but in the end the gray primer made off white look a bit more "off" and red a bit darker and the white coat made blue and red look a bit brighter on the DIII and in th end I like the final tones I achieved.

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: phil2015 on March 23, 2021, 02:58:06 AM

These look great.  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on March 23, 2021, 03:05:33 AM

These look great.  Thanks for sharing!


Thanks phil for commenting, I'm glad you liked the two !
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: lone modeller on March 23, 2021, 04:40:25 AM
I too am pleased to see that these are still being helped along. The paint finishes are really good, and the extra details that you are adding to the skids and undercarriage and really enhancing these models. They will be two worthy examples in your display cabinet when they are finished.

Glad to read that you can at last see a light at the end of the tunnel: life has been very difficult for very many people recently.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on March 23, 2021, 05:13:24 AM
I too am pleased to see that these are still being helped along. The paint finishes are really good, and the extra details that you are adding to the skids and undercarriage and really enhancing these models. They will be two worthy examples in your display cabinet when they are finished.

Glad to read that you can at last see a light at the end of the tunnel: life has been very difficult for very many people recently.

Stephen.

Thank you Stephen, I know the situation is hard for all of us, we need to bite the bullet and go on...

I thank you by the way for the kind words and I'm glad you like them!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on March 23, 2021, 08:52:01 PM
Your not alone with trouble times Andonio , may of us are there right now . The light does shine bright at the end of the tunnel  ;)

Both are turning out to be real beauties !  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on March 23, 2021, 09:23:17 PM
Your not alone with trouble times Andonio , may of us are there right now . The light does shine bright at the end of the tunnel  ;)
I know, the situation is still heavy for most of us but hope is still there...

Both are turning out to be real beauties !  :)

Alexis

Thanks Alexis, I am glad the QUeen of Pfalz likes them!!!
;-)
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on April 14, 2021, 12:11:32 AM
Hallo everybody,
here is a short update  after positioning 34 eyelets on the two models:

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-109.jpg)

The two cousins with the fuselage decals, the starboard "man in the moon" didn't slide well from the support cardboard and ripped in several points, but I touched it up and it became acceptable.
Both "man in the moon" decals show some silvering in the transparent areas.

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-110.jpg)

Close up of the DIII showing the exhaust, windscreen and the tubes that will come out of the gravity tank under the top wing

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-111.jpg)

Same for the DIIIa with the 2 MGs and the curved tube to receive the tube coming out of the radiator beneath the top wing.

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-112.jpg)

Now it's time to put the top wing up and I prepared some transparente acetate mock ups to position the inter wing struts.

Thanks for watching!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on April 14, 2021, 08:36:39 AM
Nice and colourful ! Both are coming along wonderful so far !


Alexis
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on April 14, 2021, 10:50:29 PM
I agree with Alexis completely! Looking fantastic!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: gbrivio on April 14, 2021, 10:58:10 PM
Glad to see you back on these two Pfalz, painting is really good and you made magic on very old and crude kits. Very well done.
Complimenti!
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on April 14, 2021, 11:16:43 PM
Glad to see you back on these two Pfalz, painting is really good and you made magic on very old and crude kits. Very well done.
Complimenti!
Giuseppe

Nice and colourful ! Both are coming along wonderful so far !

Alexis

Glad to see you back on these two Pfalz, painting is really good and you made magic on very old and crude kits. Very well done.
Complimenti!
Giuseppe


Thank you doll and guys!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: lone modeller on April 15, 2021, 04:53:44 AM
These do look good Andonio. They may be taking you a little past the end of the GB but the effort is well worth it.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RichieW on April 16, 2021, 12:56:47 AM
Lovely colourful schemes, these are going to be so beautiful.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on April 22, 2021, 02:37:27 AM
Many thanks Stephen and Richie...

I just glued the cabane struts on the DIII and realized the interwing struts are too short to match the pin holes on the lower surface of the top wing!
I am getting crazy thinking to any solution that is not re making them from scratch!

Any idea?

:-(
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: DaveB on April 22, 2021, 05:41:59 AM
Crikey!

The work on your Pfalz's including the painting look superb.   I can see these being stunners when finally built.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on April 22, 2021, 11:50:05 AM
Many thanks Stephen and Richie...

I just glued the cabane struts on the DIII and realized the interwing struts are too short to match the pin holes on the lower surface of the top wing!
I am getting crazy thinking to any solution that is not re making them from scratch!

Any idea?

:-(

I'm puzzled by this that you find the interstruts short .

How short are they and are they on both aircraft ?

Knowing how short they are by will aid in my reply on the shortness solution .


Alexis 
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on April 22, 2021, 08:25:06 PM
Thank you Alexis, this evening I will try to measure the gap
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on April 25, 2021, 02:29:34 AM
Hi everybody, hi Alexis,
I measured visually the gap betweeen the top of the wing struts and the bottom surface of the top wing and it was about 1 mm and a half.
I decided to cut away the pins from the top horizontal part of the cabane struts and glued the wing on top of them.
I had still to force a bit with some weight but now it seems the wing is in a correct position, see picture:
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-113.jpg)

I guess I'll have the same problem with the DIIIa, I'll make more tries.

Thanks for helping

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: kensar on April 25, 2021, 02:45:38 AM
If the struts are not too short, you may consider redrilling the mounting holes on one wing or the other so the strut angle (as viewed from the front) is not so great (more vertical).  This may be an acceptable solution.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on April 25, 2021, 02:49:32 AM
Thanks Kensar, I had the same thought, but I have already glued the eyelets for rigging and doing all that work again (plus repainting of course) is a far too long way seen the time I have to sit at the bench and the time this bbuild has taken so far!!!!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on April 25, 2021, 04:06:51 AM
The previous photo was taken this morning.
I took the weights away and everything went to its place (or at least to an acceptable place).
The ensemble is stiff enough and I put in place the tubes coming out of the radiator and the gravity tank.

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-114.jpg)

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-115.jpg)

Now I will go on to rigging.

Thanks for commenting and for your support!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: lone modeller on April 25, 2021, 05:39:52 AM
I would have suggested making struts from strip, but you seem to have solved the problem in the second way I would have suggested - use a biit of weight and show the model who is boss!!

So pleased that you have the struts in place - they are usually the most tricky problem wen I am scratch building so I know how you must have been feeling.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on April 25, 2021, 06:21:23 AM
Thank you Stephen,  as a matter of fact I had already remade the struts from scratch and my second option was your first one!
:-)

To me this is still the most dreadful moment in building a biplane, no fear for rigging but a lot of thinking for placing the struts and the top wing.

Maybe because as I build in 48th I have on the average low quality kits and there are often precision problems.

Thanks again everybody and good night

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on April 25, 2021, 10:39:56 AM
Glad to hear that it all work out for you  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on April 26, 2021, 10:49:22 PM
Happy to see you got the wing to line up and attach to the struts. Looks great as a Bi plane!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on April 27, 2021, 01:07:04 AM
Thanks Alexis and Rick, I plan to have a second biplane tonight...
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on May 03, 2021, 02:44:35 AM
Hi friends,
here is the second plane with the top wing on and the tubes coming from the ceiling at their place.

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-116.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-117.jpg)
(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-118.jpg)

Friday I'll undergo a long awaited surgical intervention, so I'll temporarily leave the trenches from wednesday May 5 to monday May 10 I'll be in the hospital, I'll be pleased to read about all your fantastic builds from the phone.

ciao

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: DaveB on May 03, 2021, 03:39:02 AM
Hello, Antonio -

Apologies for joining in late.

Great work (especially on the Blue Max kit) and progress.  Good choice of colour marking schemes for both your models - look forward to seeing these completed.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on May 03, 2021, 04:03:24 AM
Thank you Dave!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on May 03, 2021, 04:05:49 AM
Good to see  the second one is a biplane now! Both are looing great.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on May 03, 2021, 05:31:48 AM
Thanks Rick!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: lone modeller on May 04, 2021, 04:49:22 AM
That is looking every bit as good as your first one.

Best of luck with your hospital visit - looking forward to seeing more of these when you return.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Fvdm on May 04, 2021, 06:06:01 AM
Good luck with the surgery. I hope all goes well and you have a quick recovery.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Bughunter on May 04, 2021, 06:12:10 AM
All the best for you Antonio, and stay away from Covid in the hospital!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on May 04, 2021, 04:06:56 PM
Thanks guys for your wishes, I'll do my best to avoid covid in the hospital, I have had the first shot of Pfizer and I will get the second after I come back from the surgery.
I feel at least half protected at the moment :-)
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Manni on May 04, 2021, 05:31:57 PM
That's good, Antonio. Wish you a quick recovery.
Bye, Manni
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RichieW on May 04, 2021, 09:39:22 PM
Best of luck with the surgery and recovery Antonio.

Richie
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on May 04, 2021, 09:59:56 PM
Wishing you a speedy recovery Antonio


Alexis
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on May 05, 2021, 12:39:50 AM
Thanks for your wishes Alexis Richie & Manni (&all the others)...
They are very useful and more than welcome

:-)
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on May 05, 2021, 05:02:35 AM
I also wish you a speedy recovery Antonio!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIIIa completed
Post by: andonio64 on May 24, 2021, 03:38:22 AM
Hi friends,
I was in the hospital as I said but they were not able to operate because in my urine they found bacteria and this is a threat.
So I left the hospital with an antibiotic therapy and will try a new run in a couple of weeks, I hope!
:-(

In the meantime I had time to complete the DIIIa, here is a pic, the rest in the "Completed..." thread (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12228.0).

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-126.jpg)
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: lone modeller on May 24, 2021, 03:45:04 AM
Super! I am off to look at the other photos....

Stephen.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RAGIII on May 24, 2021, 05:36:47 AM
Looks Fantastic and I am also looking forward to more photos!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on May 24, 2021, 11:40:18 AM
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) ;)



Alexis
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Monty on May 25, 2021, 03:16:57 AM
A really nice result there, Andonio! Hope the surgery eventually goes well! But great to see you still producing such colourful models! Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Fvdm on May 26, 2021, 06:49:21 AM
Really nice!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on May 26, 2021, 08:43:40 PM
Thanks Everybody!

@Marc: I am waiting for the results of the analysis and then the surgeon will re-schedule the intervention.

Let's keep fingers crossed!

Antonio
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Matti on May 29, 2021, 11:18:24 PM
Very nice Pfalz you made Andonio :)
Hope you get better soon!
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on May 31, 2021, 12:29:50 AM
Thanks Matti, I am now waiting for the date of the surgical intervention, I hope to get  it monday.

In the meantime I had time to finish the Eduard kit:

(http://www.andonio.it/model/pfalz_duo/pfalz_duo-132.jpg)

More photos in the Completed section (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12247)
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Alexis on May 31, 2021, 01:20:58 AM
 :) :) :) :)

AWESOME !!! , comments left in the complete section  ;)


Alexis
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: RichieW on May 31, 2021, 07:00:06 AM
Finishing this beautiful model must have been very good therapy while you await surgery Andonio. Wishing you the very best of luck with it.

Richie
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on May 31, 2021, 04:16:41 PM
Thanks for the wishes Richie, and thanks again Alexis for your support!
:-)
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Matti on May 31, 2021, 08:30:19 PM
One of my favorite WW1 schemes! Man on the moon with pipe :)
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: Monty on June 04, 2021, 03:29:38 AM
I like that scheme so much, Andonio! Lovely colours and beautifully done! All the Best, Marc.
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII / DIIIa 1/48 Group Build After Build
Post by: andonio64 on June 07, 2021, 06:23:22 PM
Thanks Matti & Monty!