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Title: Completed - Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: eclarson on February 04, 2019, 04:54:19 AM
When I first delved into the fascinating world of WWI aircraft modeling it was from correspondence with Des and studying his build blogs that I learned 90% of the techniques I now employ on my WWI projects.  It is therefore an honor to participate in this Group Build in his memory.

At first I was going to go with one of the larger WNW kits in my stash (the AEG was a front-runner) but given the 6-month duration, and my limited modeling time, I chose one that has a better chance of being completed in the time allotted.  I've been fond of the chunky little Roland C.II since building the 1/72 Airfix kit when I was a kid.  The subject was tops on my WNW wish list for years so it was a pleasant surprise when the WNW C.II kits were released in 2014.  It's definitely time one made it to my bench and what better reason than this to do so!

Aftermarket extras will be limited to some Taurus engine details and HGW seat belts.

(https://i.imgur.com/o93sseu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NMHBWHb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9YMsbnz.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on February 05, 2019, 01:28:25 AM
Excellent choice. I am looking forward to more.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: rhwinter on February 05, 2019, 04:46:21 AM
Yeah! The Roland C.II was one of my boyhood-heroes, too! Looking forward to your build, Eric! Which version will it be?
Richard
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on February 05, 2019, 07:50:46 AM
Yeah! The Roland C.II was one of my boyhood-heroes, too! Looking forward to your build, Eric! Which version will it be?
Richard

Hi Richard,

I'll be doing the one on the box art.  The "custom" Lewis gun mount and little fish anemometer cover are really cool.

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Monty on February 10, 2019, 01:47:08 AM
A lovely choice, Eric! It will look stunning! Enjoy!
Regards,
Marc
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on February 12, 2019, 09:52:34 AM
Humble beginnings.  I'm still in the process of wrapping up a small non-WWI project but the Roland is finally under way.  Nothing too exciting so far, just some cockpit parts cleanup and a few glued together.  But it's a start!  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/VvAV1FC.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Juan on February 12, 2019, 09:55:14 AM
One of my favorites also.  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: kensar on February 12, 2019, 11:03:20 PM
I'll be watching this with interest!
Sometimes just getting started is the hardest part.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: gbrivio on February 13, 2019, 08:21:09 AM
This is very promising, looking forward to the build.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Monty on February 18, 2019, 02:04:08 AM
Good to see this started, Eric! Have fun! Regards, Marc
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: pepperman42 on February 19, 2019, 12:18:48 AM
Humble beginnings are beginnings all the same!! Great start

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on February 22, 2019, 01:14:16 PM
Finally started painting and assembling the interior parts.  It's generally accepted that the C.II's fuselage inner surfaces and interior framework were painted a blue-grey color but there's evidence that at least on some, the floor and possibly the instrument panel were left in natural wood.  The kit's color callouts indicate dark wood as an option for the floor and in some photos found in the Windsock book, wood grain is clearly visible on the instrument panel.  Given that, I chose do the floor and IP as such if for no other reason than to add visual interest.  After all, what's a WWI aircraft build without at least some wood effect?   The wood areas were first painted with pale yellow Stynylrez primer followed by Vallejo Old Wood.  Burnt and Raw Umber oil paints provided the grain effect.  The seats were primed with black Stynylrez followed by a coat of Mig AMMO Leather Belt.  Raw Umber, Raw Sienna, and Yellow Ochre oils paints were dabbed on with a sponge or dry brushed to create the leather look.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ad17HNW.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Borsos on February 23, 2019, 06:03:03 AM
Very nice. Especially that leather effect looks great.
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on February 23, 2019, 09:42:27 AM
Very nice. Especially that leather effect looks great.
Andreas

I agree 100% with Andreas!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on March 08, 2019, 01:27:24 PM
Time for a much overdue update on my Roland.  I took these pics this evening after finishing the instrument panel details.  I added selector levers, made from copper and bronze wire, to the four controls along the right side.  Adding control wires and a set of HGW seatbelts is next on the agenda before final assembly of the interior components.

(https://i.imgur.com/zQYTVIh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IMO9ip6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/p5xoIir.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KGgj8WW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lDgLSv6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/t0ennmn.jpg)

Cheers,
Eric

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Edo on March 08, 2019, 03:58:19 PM
wow Eric!
i am always amazed by your wood and leather painting... awesome!
ciao
edo
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: gbrivio on March 08, 2019, 10:20:11 PM
Great interiors, lovely woodgrain and leathers.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: guitarlute101 on March 08, 2019, 10:41:57 PM
Great work Eric! Wood and leather look amazing.

Mark
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on March 08, 2019, 11:18:45 PM
Gorgeous interior! As always your wood work is awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: GAJouette on March 09, 2019, 01:50:51 AM
 Eric,
I bow to the master of wood work! Outstanding progress my old friend. Looking forward to seeing more of this.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: pepperman42 on March 09, 2019, 04:01:11 AM
Nice work!!

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Alexis on March 09, 2019, 10:37:35 AM
Coming along beautifully so far Eric  :)




Terri
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Doug Mace on March 09, 2019, 12:30:38 PM
Exquisite work, Eric...so tight...your leather work on the seats is incredible.
Ciao
Doug
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on March 16, 2019, 03:28:56 PM
Thank you all for the kind and encouraging comments!

Here are the results of some Friday late night modeling - got the Roland's interior "cage" together, here seen with the engine mounts and bearers dry-fitted in place.   Seat belts are HGW.   The next task is to build the engine.

Something is visible in these pics that may be of interest to anyone planning on building one of these.  There are no anchor points provided for the front seat's belts, the instructions merely showing them attached to the lower outside of the seat.  The seemed rather random to me so I exercised some creative license and placed a .030" diameter Evergreen styrene rod underneath seat over which the belt anchors were slid.  Note that this is similar to how the rear seat's belts are attached.

(https://i.imgur.com/c2eyMmb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uWjGPHI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VHFdp7E.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: gbrivio on March 16, 2019, 03:34:30 PM
Components were already very nice on their own, now set together and caged make a great inside. Looking forward to the engine room build.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on March 16, 2019, 10:28:08 PM
Looks outstanding with everything in place!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: kensar on March 17, 2019, 09:32:51 AM
Very nice detail, Eric.  That interior is really coming together.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: aliluke on March 17, 2019, 05:15:49 PM
Great work on the interior Eric. Good tip on the anchor points for the front seatbelts. I had the same confusion with the DFW but a differrent solution and have the Roland in m stash.

Cheers,
Alistaie
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on March 21, 2019, 12:11:49 PM
Just finished installing a Taurus resin timing gear set on my Roland's engine. First time I've ever attempted this and there was a point I thought I'd trashed it but after reading some posts here of others' experiences with these things I figured out where I was going wrong, was able to fix some mistakes, and get all the parts in place.  It's not perfect but once painted and the rest of the engine parts are attached it should look fine. Definitely a learning experience! The next one will go smoother.  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/gDK8JgD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/d8HHxjP.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on March 21, 2019, 09:09:16 PM
Looks outstanding on my screen  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: kensar on March 21, 2019, 09:34:15 PM
Well, it looks good, Eric.  If I may ask, what was the nature of the problems?  Was it the spacing between the valve train and the cylinders, one cylinder to the next?
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on March 22, 2019, 09:15:26 AM
Well, it looks good, Eric.  If I may ask, what was the nature of the problems?  Was it the spacing between the valve train and the cylinders, one cylinder to the next?

Thanks.   I made some mistakes attaching the parts thinking I should drill holes where the springs go, after clipping off the kit bits, into which the little nub at the base of the resin spring should go.  This led to inconsistencies in angles and spacing between the springs and the valve train.  Compounding that was the realization that the resin valve train piece is a little too long, a problem I later learned that others have encountered as well.  That was easily fixed by cutting the shaft, the material removed shortening the section enough to align properly with the cylinders.  I then struggled with getting the valve lifters (not sure if that's the correct term) in place due to some springs being too close. 

At that point I thought there was no saving it so set it aside for the night with plans on ordering a new engine from WNW and skipping the resin.  The next day I thought to search here for others who had used the Taurus sets and after reading a couple, it dawned on me that I should have removed the springs' lower nub and glued them right onto the cylinder heads without drilling holes while at the same time fitting the valve lifters.  So I carefully cut off the springs with spacing problems and also shortened the top pins which fit under the lifters.  One at a time, each lifter was glued in place with Gator Grip Glue which held it in place yet allowed plenty of work time, then the spring put in position using thin CA applied to the base and upper pin to secure it only after it was in place.

Please excuse the lengthy explanation but I figured the details may help others on their first attempt using one of the Taurus sets.  They really do look great once installed and I will use them again now that I know what I'm doing.  :)

Cheers,
Eric

 
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: kensar on March 22, 2019, 09:27:40 PM
Thanks for the detailed explanation.  Sounds like you're still on your own when putting these together despite the Taurus instructions.  The results do look good. 
I can't figure out how Taurus makes the masters and then casts these microscopic pieces with all the detail.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on March 23, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
No, it is not a giant penny.  Those are the Taurus spark plugs that I finished installing tonight.  I really don't know how Lukasz does it.  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/SM6y75E.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FwGTjV2.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on March 23, 2019, 10:32:53 PM
Excellent!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on March 30, 2019, 01:27:55 PM
All's well that ends well!  My Roland's engine, a 160hp Daimler-Mercedes D.III,  is done.  In spite of struggling a bit with the Taurus valve train upgrades, I'm pleased with the final results.  Sadly, some of the details will be hidden in the completed model. 

(https://i.imgur.com/1VU414g.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MMoTREc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/J9yhHxF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZXboWdR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/F0vyuWn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xJBsa1m.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: aliluke on March 30, 2019, 05:14:13 PM
Looking great Eric. I'm just struggling through the spark plug wiring at the moment. You do wonder why you do it when it is all hidden away? But then you just can't resist the challenge and the photos will be the reminder of what you made even if no one else can see it.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Edo on March 30, 2019, 05:51:41 PM
excellent engine Eric!
i like it very much...
your craftmaship is second to none!
cioa
edo
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on March 30, 2019, 09:41:57 PM
Beautiful work on the engine. Love the details!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on March 31, 2019, 12:46:56 AM
Thank you all again for the kind comments.

As the time approaches to close up the fuselage, I want to take time to offer some advice to anyone planning on building one of the WNW Roland C.II kits.  The instructions would have you join the vertical tail/rear fuselage parts (B13 and B14) then install that unit onto the already closed fuselage.   Doing it this way can easily result in gaps or other fit issues that will be difficult to deal with.
Instead, attach B13 and B14 to their respective fuselage halves first and dry fit the two completed sides to ensure everything lines up.  As you can see, this results in a near perfect fit with only minor seams in front and behind the horizontal tail slot to be addressed.

(https://i.imgur.com/5ZZ2C9a.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aZkYmC4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aaWaJRw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ehWVEHL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/S0eMLhd.jpg)

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on March 31, 2019, 01:06:37 AM
Excellent progress and a great building tip!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: dr 1 ace on March 31, 2019, 08:10:59 AM
Excellent progress and a great building tip!
RAGIII

Ditto on all accounts !!!!


Ed
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Borsos on April 01, 2019, 12:36:22 AM
Wonderful engine!
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on April 01, 2019, 12:06:53 PM
Thanks guys!  Fortunately, Wingnut provides the upper engine covers as separate parts which can be left off to allow more of the engine details to be seen.  In fact they recommend doing just that in the instructions.   So, today's progress was bringing it all together - the Roland's engine has been installed which completes the interior structure. Next step is to enclose this in the fuselage.

(https://i.imgur.com/OARc4o1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tVhIZOJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/x7v8daA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wpCKc3L.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Edo on April 01, 2019, 02:50:58 PM
it s a pity to close the fusolage...
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Manni on April 01, 2019, 03:25:18 PM
Beautiful work. The engine looks great with the nice sparkplugs. Sad that you have to close the fuselage.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on April 01, 2019, 09:40:23 PM
The interior and engine certainly look Gorgeous! Looking forward to your next update!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Alexis on April 02, 2019, 12:05:48 PM
Fantastic Eric !  :)




Terri
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on April 07, 2019, 01:29:55 PM
Last look before the Roland's fuselage halves are joined.  Fortunately, between the large cockpit openings, big side windows, and the option to leave off the engine cowling panels, much of the detail will still be visible.  And for what's not...I still have the photos.  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/cXojl6F.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on April 07, 2019, 11:00:29 PM
Really looks Awesome in place in the interior. Superb work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on April 12, 2019, 12:33:17 PM
Last peek before the "lid" is installed.  I plan on leaving the cowling panels off though so much of the upper engine detail will still be visible.  I painted most of the fuselage exteriors before putting everything together in hopes of reducing the masking task to prevent overspray getting inside but as it turned out there will still be much careful masking required.

(https://i.imgur.com/N7b1JZ4.jpg)

The real Roland fuselages were constructed from wood, in halves, much like a model, then joined with a fabric strip covering the seams.  Wingnut represents these with raised ridges on the fuselage half edges but I felt they were too high and narrow.  Not to mention difficulty in getting an even appearance when gluing the halves together.  Therefore, I sanded down the ridges and replaced them with .010" x .030" Evergreen strip glued down using Tamiya Extra Thin liquid cement.  Once dry, the strips are thinned further by careful sanding.

The upper strips have been sanded...
(https://i.imgur.com/UXfqD5S.jpg)

while those on the underside were just glued down so will be allowed to dry overnight before sanding.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZYphPdC.jpg)

After that, let the masking begin!  For the light blue paint I'm using Hataka lacquers - a mix of 10 parts C293 Extra Light Blue (FS25550) to 1 part C319 Light Sea Blue (FS25200).
For the scumble effect I'll be using artist oil paints using a yet-to-be-determined mix of blue, white, and light blue-grey. 

Eric

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: gbrivio on April 12, 2019, 02:40:55 PM
Outstanding work on engine and interiors. And a great tip on sealing fuselage seams.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on April 12, 2019, 07:56:45 PM
Excellent work on the taped seams! Looking terrific!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on April 16, 2019, 11:57:25 AM
With the fuselage all together and the light blue base color painted, I've begun to apply my interpretation of the so-called "scumble" effect.  After some research and studying of reference photos, I decided to use artist oil paints using a technique similar to how I do wood grain and leather effects.  A closeup photo at the bottom of page 23 of Windsock Datafile #49 shows what I hope to accomplish.  That it is of the actual aircraft I'm doing is an added bonus.  Based on what I've learned, vertical surfaces will receive a random vertical streaking while horizontal surfaces will be more of a dabbed on look. 

A trip to the local arts and crafts store netted me a tube of medium blue-gray oil paint which mixed 50/50 with white resulted in a color that I felt gave an appropriate contrast to the base color.   A drop of fast drying thinner was added to the paint mix which was first applied in small dots to the surfaces.  Using bits of foam rubber sponge and several types of brushes the paint was then streaked or dabbed over the surface.  After experimenting on an old test wing, I did the wing struts and other parts last night and moved on to the fuselage tonight, starting at the tail.

Eventually, per WNW's painting instructions, the same color will be dabbed over the bleached linen areas on the upper wing surfaces.

(https://i.imgur.com/qGs5eri.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6GDohqv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rg2qBcj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XK064Y4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7fYnyQo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3LKQ03H.jpg)


Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: AlbertD on April 16, 2019, 12:57:10 PM
You guys keep costing me more money with these beautiful builds. She looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Edo on April 16, 2019, 02:49:46 PM
beautiful eric!
you sre a real artist!
i keep learning (and stealing  ;) ) from you!
ciao
edo
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on April 16, 2019, 09:41:03 PM
Very well done. I am looking forward to seeing the final results of your oil work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: pepperman42 on April 17, 2019, 06:53:03 AM
Catching up again. Interesting update and good info on the fuselage seam.

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Alexis on April 17, 2019, 09:57:21 AM
Very well done. I am looking forward to seeing the final results of your oil work!
RAGIII


second this ...


Terri
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on April 20, 2019, 01:25:18 AM
"Scumble" finish on the fuselage has been completed.

(https://i.imgur.com/G8Nb5GG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oNEZ6TC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pRiIoz8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZzN2wJj.jpg)

Eric

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Juan on April 20, 2019, 01:58:41 AM
That scumbling looks fantastic Eric.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on April 20, 2019, 06:01:15 AM
Very subtle and outstanding results!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Alexis on April 20, 2019, 11:10:52 PM
The effect turned out wonderful Eric , very well done  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Borsos on April 21, 2019, 04:16:40 AM
Very nice finish on the fuselage. This is going to become a masterpiece. This “scrumbling” finish, where did you get the information on that? I have read a little about the Roland Walfisch but I think I missed this new theory regarding their paint finish.
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on April 21, 2019, 12:01:59 PM
Very nice finish on the fuselage. This is going to become a masterpiece. This “scrumbling” finish, where did you get the information on that? I have read a little about the Roland Walfisch but I think I missed this new theory regarding their paint finish.
Andreas

Thank you Borsos, and all the others, for those kind comments.

As for the "scumble" finish, I first learned of it from the kit's description and instructions which can be seen on the WNW site. 

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3109

There is also an excellent article in the Summer 2014 Windsock World War Centenary on Roland colors in which the field-applied 'scumbling' camouflage is mentioned. 

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on April 21, 2019, 01:12:47 PM
Yay...something for my Roland that's not blue! Just finished the prop. Wood effect done with Burnt and Raw Umber oil paints over mixes of brown/tan and brown/pale yellow primer. Final finish is Gunze Mr Color Super Clear Gloss.

(https://i.imgur.com/AJbUprH.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on April 21, 2019, 11:45:53 PM
Beautiful Prop! One to be proud of for sure!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Borsos on April 22, 2019, 03:08:39 AM
Very nice finish on the fuselage. This is going to become a masterpiece. This “scrumbling” finish, where did you get the information on that? I have read a little about the Roland Walfisch but I think I missed this new theory regarding their paint finish.
Andreas

Thank you Borsos, and all the others, for those kind comments.

As for the "scumble" finish, I first learned of it from the kit's description and instructions which can be seen on the WNW site. 

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3109

There is also an excellent article in the Summer 2014 Windsock World War Centenary on Roland colors in which the field-applied 'scumbling' camouflage is mentioned. 

Eric

Thank you!!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on April 28, 2019, 07:34:22 AM
Time for an update.  The exhaust unit was done by applying layers of Mig AMMO Rust Effects paints over a base of Gunze Mr Metal Color Iron. 
The fuselage decals are done and performed flawlessly with the help of Micro Set/Sol and hot air from a hair dryer, the latter used on the large ones.
The pilot's leather cockpit trim is various oil paints over Andrea and Vallejo acrylic leather colors.

(https://i.imgur.com/Uk8I6vo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/u8eNHJ7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0UgMd1W.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/U2dXDDc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RHusgg9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RoZzMMq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/klemo1k.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rlNwu0e.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on April 28, 2019, 10:36:24 PM
The markings really bring it to life Lovely work all around.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: lone modeller on April 29, 2019, 08:09:50 AM
Trying to keep up with all of these builds has been very difficult so I have not commented on this much before. The fuselage colour is amazing - you have a slightly streaky effect which is so much more realistic than the plain colours that I have seen first hand on several of these models. The weathered effects on the exhaust and engine are also super - again so realistic.

This really is first class modelling in the making.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on April 29, 2019, 10:31:54 AM
Trying to keep up with all of these builds has been very difficult so I have not commented on this much before. The fuselage colour is amazing - you have a slightly streaky effect which is so much more realistic than the plain colours that I have seen first hand on several of these models. The weathered effects on the exhaust and engine are also super - again so realistic.

This really is first class modelling in the making.

Stephen.

Hi Stephen, Thank you for those kind comments!   You might be interested to learn that the streaky effect represents a crude field-applied attempt at camouflaging the plain colours in which the aircraft was originally finished so models done either way are correct! In fact, the instructions show a series of photos of this particular aircraft at various stages in its life starting with the plain original paint then with the streaky "scumble" effect and finally with some kind of tinted varnish which appears to have been applied over the upper surfaces. 

Cheers,
Eric

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Manni on April 29, 2019, 04:54:51 PM
Wonderful effect on the fuselage, Eric. I think this will be the best Roland with the shark mouth that I have seen.
Great,
Manni
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on May 08, 2019, 12:36:02 PM
Painting, decals, and weathering of the fuselage are finished and the undercarriage attached.  Some minor touch-up painting remains to be done then it's on to the tail and wings! 
The prop and spinner are only temporarily fitted for these pics.

(https://i.imgur.com/sIR3G8r.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hZXdZsy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6O18Vhd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MqkETXC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YIIHUSY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CAuxqgr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uIgIbgu.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: S.BREGUET on May 08, 2019, 08:20:59 PM
Fabulous! An outstanding work and a perfect skill of the painting. And it's very instructive.

Thank you "Herr Meister" !

Stéphane.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on May 08, 2019, 09:20:53 PM
Looks excellent sitting on it's gear!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: kensar on May 08, 2019, 09:40:34 PM
Wow! this is really looking great, Eric.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Europapete on May 08, 2019, 11:18:48 PM
Best Roland out there, great build Eric, well done. Regards Pete in RI
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: lone modeller on May 09, 2019, 03:27:48 AM
As others have written that looks excellent on the u/cand with the prop.

Stephen
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: andonio64 on May 09, 2019, 11:39:22 PM
Eric the build is marvellous but the paint and its finishing looks really awesome!

Antonio
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on May 11, 2019, 09:49:49 AM
Thank you all for those encouraging comments!

Attention now turns to the flying surfaces starting with the tail planes.  After priming with white Stynylrez primer, pencils were used to draw the internal ribs (drafting pencil with 4B lead for the underside, a Raw Umber art pencil for the upper sides) after which MRP Bleached Linen paint was airbrushed in multiple light coats.  The goal is to simulate the effect of translucent linen with light shining through from above, hence the darker lines on the bottom, but I also wanted to show a hint of the ribs on the top side.   On the other hand, the scumble finish will also be applied to the tail and wing top surfaces so those ribs may not be visible when all is said and done. 

(https://i.imgur.com/l43MZse.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FdU8gYr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UAjxO5F.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/imWEdhm.jpg)


Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Alexis on May 11, 2019, 10:29:48 AM
I like it Eric , I have been adding the use of pencils/crayons for this effect and I'm rather pleased with the results so far . Looking forward on seeing the scrumble camo applied . The hint on the ribs will be and should look great .


Terri
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on May 11, 2019, 10:50:37 AM
I like it Eric , I have been adding the use of pencils/crayons for this effect and I'm rather pleased with the results so far . Looking forward on seeing the scrumble camo applied . The hint on the ribs will be and should look great .


Terri

Thanks Terri!  I forgot to mention that appropriately, I learned this technique several years ago from Des' modeling page.

https://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page9.html

Eric

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: aliluke on May 11, 2019, 10:57:03 AM
Wow! This is becoming a stunning model. I have one in my stash and this log will now be the reference and gold standard.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Edo on May 11, 2019, 04:12:37 PM
what a beauty!!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2019, 09:10:23 PM
Excellent results using the pencil! Even better knowing you picked it up from Des.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on May 13, 2019, 11:25:00 AM
Got the ribbing done on the lower wings today. 

(https://i.imgur.com/72NwnJG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CH8TwRr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Xd0Bd2l.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on May 13, 2019, 11:30:38 AM
Simply superb!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Borsos on May 14, 2019, 12:10:36 AM
That’s a very nice technique. I really like your wings.
Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Alexis on May 14, 2019, 11:51:42 AM
Very nice effect . Turned out super Eric  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: pepperman42 on May 17, 2019, 11:25:50 PM
Very subtle and effective

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on May 19, 2019, 04:51:00 AM
Painting and decalling of the Roland's wings are nearing completion. Tail planes have been attached but the elevators will wait until later so they don't get knocked off while handling.
I now need to wait a couple days for the scumble streaking on the outer upper wing to dry before gloss coating and applying the decals.  The underside wing needs its scumble on the topside as well.  I'll probably do it tomorrow after the satin clear coat has had a day to dry.  I've learned the hard way not to rush these things. :)

(https://i.imgur.com/leujgbi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/W5C5yk6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/g6vL0ED.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gr9znQW.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on May 19, 2019, 08:02:33 AM
Looking absolutely Gorgeous! The markings and rib effect are terrific!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on May 19, 2019, 09:22:09 AM
Speaking of ribs, here are a couple more pics showing the upper wings before and after painting.

(https://i.imgur.com/RpJbh0V.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2zCoBBj.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Juan on May 19, 2019, 09:36:34 AM
You are making me hungry with the talk of "RIBS".  All kidding aside, just beautiful.   ;D
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: coyotemagic on May 19, 2019, 11:16:45 AM
Just getting caught up on this beauty, Eric!  Superb work all around!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: kensar on May 19, 2019, 09:22:46 PM
Your pre-shading with the pencil looks good.  I am using the same technique on my Hanriot, only using a harder HB lead and feathering the edges a little more.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on May 24, 2019, 11:46:14 AM
The finished wings.  Time to start installing rigging attachment points.

(https://i.imgur.com/R7es6K5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VsEvlWP.jpg)


Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Edo on May 24, 2019, 02:49:45 PM
beautiful!
the underside is the best!
ciao
edo
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Bughunter on May 24, 2019, 04:12:20 PM
What a build :o
Must keep it as reference for my 48 whale.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Manni on May 24, 2019, 06:07:43 PM
Superb work, the wings are stunning.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Juan on May 24, 2019, 09:02:41 PM
Your wings look fantastic (along with the rest of your build).
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on May 24, 2019, 10:36:47 PM
The wings are outstanding! Coming together very well!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: pepperman42 on May 24, 2019, 11:22:23 PM
Very nice progress!!

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: gedmundson on May 28, 2019, 12:33:21 AM
Just catching up on this build, Eric - I believe I've seen some pics on FB too. Great work!!
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 28, 2019, 03:24:39 AM
Eric,
Truly magic to see CDL executed so well.
Give yourself a pat on the back!

Well done.
vB
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on May 28, 2019, 12:20:05 PM
Thank you all for the continued encouraging comments!  I've made good progress this weekend.  Tail control surfaces and lower wings have been installed.  Also added the wind-driven generator and power cable (from .015" solder) to the front starboard undercarriage leg.  A tiny wood prop will be attached later.  For variety, I'm using Infini Models elastic rigging thread for the control lines and the Maxima monofilament leader line for the main rigging.  Turnbuckle bodies are from my precious supply of polyimide tubing.  :-)

(https://i.imgur.com/9r5FX4J.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Au8JuxR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vep3m7w.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/meDURKq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oI9bzmT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cRt6QqT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5H0s1vm.jpg)

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2019, 10:04:21 PM
Looks Terrific with the lower wing and tail plane in place. The generator looks great. You are getting closer now to having a real beauty added to your collection!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: kensar on May 29, 2019, 06:30:30 AM
The shading and weathering came out really well.  The undersides look especially realistic.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: aliluke on May 30, 2019, 05:10:46 PM
This continues to look WOW! Your painting and weathering is spot on. Definitely bookmarking this for when I get going on my Roland.


Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: GazzaS on May 30, 2019, 06:56:38 PM
Great build!  I've been drooling after this one on Facebook.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: eclarson on June 01, 2019, 10:53:45 AM
Another milestone reached!  All wings on and rigging done.  At first I was going to leave the Maxima Chameleon monofilament its original smokey color but when done decided to brush a thin coat of Gunze Mr Metal Color Stainless Steel on each line.

(https://i.imgur.com/1OtyOAu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yE1sXfn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5TLfda6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hvtJzV5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9fJ8Jdl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ECMoEeC.jpg)

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: kensar on June 01, 2019, 09:47:55 PM
Looks superb, Eric.  You will need to be careful not to damage the rigging as you finish it up.

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Alexis on June 01, 2019, 09:59:30 PM
Man , she is looking fantastic Eric !




Terri
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: RAGIII on June 01, 2019, 10:43:16 PM
Excellent update. The rigging looks terrific!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: pepperman42 on June 03, 2019, 09:47:34 PM
Very nice progress. She looks great!!

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: Bughunter on June 04, 2019, 03:13:56 AM
A real Roland could not look better, great!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II
Post by: GazzaS on June 04, 2019, 05:21:56 PM
Lovely work!
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: eclarson on June 09, 2019, 01:53:03 PM
I now present my completed tribute build to Des - the WNW Roland C.II. 

(https://i.imgur.com/TBrfonh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/AMe2f4v.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Y6xTA6T.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/G0lQ1sg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pOvE8mc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UtTPXxP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Xkkj4x8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xkiy7jm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aiWruCz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6up0JLw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KgK0AxF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/smCOY3l.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xoP82e2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6pIn7pH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MaTalKq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7TAS8Xy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0oiCPPY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wduNZJN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CcEdK1k.jpg)

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: coyotemagic on June 09, 2019, 02:04:09 PM
Simply stunning, Eric!  Everything about it is top notch!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: Juan on June 09, 2019, 08:23:42 PM
Congratulations Eric, beautifully executed.  Truly enjoyed your build.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: RAGIII on June 09, 2019, 10:09:30 PM
Simply stunning, Eric!  Everything about it is top notch!
Cheers,
Bud

I agree with My Amigo! Details, painting, weathering, and rigging! Outstanding build!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: kensar on June 09, 2019, 11:29:07 PM
Stunning build, Eric.  Even the details are detailed.
Exceptionally realistic looking.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: Europapete on June 10, 2019, 03:21:49 AM
Good grief. That's right, put the rest of us to shame.  Simply stunning. Regards Pete in RI
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: Mike Norris on June 10, 2019, 03:23:38 AM
That's a great and detailed build Eric.
I particularly like the blue finish you've achieved on the external surfaces - tricky to do but you've managed it,

Mike
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: aliluke on June 10, 2019, 02:46:04 PM
Brilliant Eric! I echo all of the above! Now bookmarked for when I get at my kit of the same. As I said earlier in your log - this is the gold standard for the Roland IMHO.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: gbrivio on June 10, 2019, 03:02:40 PM
I agree with all peceding comments, very nice model with a superb finishing, congratulations.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: pepperman42 on June 10, 2019, 11:22:24 PM
Very nice work!! Just the right level of weathering.

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: Borsos on June 11, 2019, 02:16:16 AM
Looks fantastic!

Andreas
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: Adam on June 15, 2019, 12:52:39 AM
congratulations fantastic work.

Adam.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: Bughunter on June 15, 2019, 05:16:46 AM
Wow, what a great Roland!
You put so much effort in all the details and create something very unique, top! I is really fun to go again and again through your pictures and find one detail after the other. The radiators, windows, weapons, engine, ... painting and weathering - I really like this bird!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: Edo on June 15, 2019, 03:44:11 PM
simply beautiful!
a true work of art!
ciao
edo
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Roland C.II - COMPLETED!
Post by: Alexis on June 15, 2019, 11:14:57 PM
This is the best Walfrisher I have seen , everything is top notch , from start to finish .




Terri