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Forum Archive Storage => Des Delatorre International Memorial Group Build => Topic started by: aliluke on February 03, 2019, 11:32:52 AM
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I'm in with the DFW CV. I think this Des Memorial Build is a great idea.
I'm putting aside the Fokker Eindecker which I have only just started and I'm going to do the "Stripes" version of the DFW. The beauty is that Wingnut Wings isn't sure of the colour of this plane so I can chose my own colour - and make it unique. I'm thinking of a dark/burnt orange as opposed the dark red the kit suggests. But I'll experiment first, research some posible options and may head in a completely different direction. Keep everyone guessing 8)...
Except for rigging, I'm going to honour the quality of the kit by sticking to everything else being straight out of the box.
(https://i.imgur.com/sH790Ui.jpg)
Cheers
Alistair
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Great choice Alistair, it will be interesting to see what main color you choose in the end result.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks Lance
Whatever I get to colour wise will sure offend someone 8). My fun!
Cheers
Alistair
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Looking forward to this one Alistair. I’ve heard good things about this kit, one I’m yet to try.
I think WW1 colours are a bit subjective at the best of times..
Guy
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Very good choise, Alistair. I love this plane and I would choose the same scheme. Looking forward to your next steps and your interpretation of the colour.
Bye,
Manni
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Outstanding choice for model and scheme. Like others I am looking forward to your final color choice!
RAGIII
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Great, Alistair: A much underrated kit, you're tackling. I like your choice a lot and will follow your build eagerly!
Richard
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Thanks all
Planning to make a start tomorrow - the clock is ticking. I think it will be a coppery/burnt orange perhaps as seen here on a Phonix D1 - yikes!!! ;D Or maybe green, or yellow...
(https://i.imgur.com/p3TY0Wh.jpg)
Cheers
Alistair
P.S. Not sure if this image is subject to copyright?
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Great choice, I love both, kit and color sheme.
Best regards
Andreas
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A lovely subject, Alistair, and one of my favourite subjects! Enjoy, I'm sure it will come out beautifully!
Regards,
Marc
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Nice plane and a captivating livery, looks a promising build.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Alistair,
Great choice of subject for the GB my old friend. I really like the brownish orange scheme. At any rate looking forward to seeing more. Best of luck in the GB to you.
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Great selection of model and color Alistair. Looking forward to seeing your progress.
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Hi
Getting on with it now. A big pre-paint and ready for assembling the cockpit. It has a kind of weird Star Trek seat thing but Captain Kirk didn't fly this bird. I have cut both ways with a main fuel tank in green and the auxilliary tank in brass. One strange thing being that two of the instrument decals completely disintegrated - turned to dust - replaced but haven't experienced that before. There is more painting to do and everything is just dry fitted. I love doing the cockpits and this one is very cool with a lot of very well engineered detail.
(https://i.imgur.com/wV9D2Ew.jpg)
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Cheers
Alisatir
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Very nice details, can't wait to see all them put together.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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good progress Alistair, almost all sub-assemblies are ready and looks like closing interior frame is very close.
I like color of a delicate wood texture.
looking forward next steps,
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buzby
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nnnnnnice :-) And have fun, this kit is a jewel.
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Thanks all
Getting it together now. I am enjoying this cockpit. The radio and all its very fiddly decals disappear but recorded...all fun and this is a great kit.
(https://i.imgur.com/rRS6YgZ.jpg)
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Cheers
Alistair
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A gorgeous bit of interior work! Loving this one so far!
RAGIII
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Crisp and clean Alistair.
Ryan
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Very nice details.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Alistair,
very fine and crisp interior,
could you share the knowledge from which sources you used for radio compartment/ cable layout, have you got any pictures or sketches showing that part of rear cabin?
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buzby
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Thanks all,
Nearly all closed up now. Just got to get the PE seatbelts sorted. This one is going to be out of the box and the PE is diificult.
Buxby - I tried in vain to find sources for the wiring for the radio and got zero - a subject worth knowing more about. In the end I just took a punt based on some previous builds of the DFW. I figure the aerial tube must connect to the set and the winder generates the set. So from the aerial tube a connecting wire and from the winder a copper wire through to the set. This is all made up! :o I know nothing about radios and if any one else does please comment. But, like much, it will all be invisible anyway.
Cheers
Alistair
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I thought you got some more detailed pictures or drawings, the only picture I found is in the Roland C.II late instruction page 3, and it was slightly different from your interpretation - that's why I asked.
I am also not an expert in this field...
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buzby
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Buzby - yes you are right. I just found that photo and I have a Roland CII in my stash. My mistake...too late now...next time ::)
Cheers
Alistair
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Thanks all,
Nearly all closed up now. Just got to get the PE seatbelts sorted. This one is going to be out of the box and the PE is diificult.
Buxby - I tried in vain to find sources for the wiring for the radio and got zero - a subject worth knowing more about. In the end I just took a punt based on some previous builds of the DFW. I figure the aerial tube must connect to the set and the winder generates the set. So from the aerial tube a connecting wire and from the winder a copper wire through to the set. This is all made up! :o I know nothing about radios and if any one else does please comment. But, like much, it will all be invisible anyway.
Cheers
Alistair
(http://www.mchost.gr/thumb/5bfc9e0796/36119.jpg) (http://www.mchost.gr/v/36119) (http://www.mchost.gr/thumb/5bfc9e0796/36118.jpg) (http://www.mchost.gr/v/36118)(http://www.mchost.gr/thumb/5bfc9e0796/36120.jpg) (http://www.mchost.gr/v/36120)
Spyros
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oh, that explains a lot, :o
thank you, Spyros
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buzby
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Thanks Spyros
Next time I'll get it right!!!
Cheers
Alistair
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Alistair,
Outstanding progress to date my old friend. Your interior is quite impressive! I'd imagine the backseater would one busy fellow. Keep up the high excellence.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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There is some really lovely detail in this kit, and buzby you are indeed making the most of it! It's very beautiful and inspiring! Regards, Marc
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I managed a slight re-wire of the radio to make it a little more accurate. Why? Because you can't see it! ::) But I can...More photos soon.
Cheers
Alistair
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The interior is all done now. As usual photos show me some touch ups are needed. Next the engine.
(https://i.imgur.com/CKT9uPF.jpg)
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Cheers
Alistair
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Nice clean work , really like your seat cushion 8)
Terri
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Beautiful interior work! Looking forward to the engine!
RAGIII
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Thanks Rick, Terri
Have had little time at this having just changed jobs. But back into it.
Fuselage half closed.
Engine done except for weathering. Dry fit into frame.
Started experiments with colour on a spare Sopwith Snipe wing - kind of crazy and could be weird but it will stand out! Burnt orange and I will add a little stipple but less than in the experiment. Opinions welcomed! ::)
(https://i.imgur.com/6TmqRdV.jpg)
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Cheers
Alistair
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Your engine looks great in place and will be exceptional once weathered! The stippling certainly adds a distressed look to the fabric. Looking forward to where you take this!
RAGIII
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Your engine looks great in place and will be exceptional once weathered! The stippling certainly adds a distressed look to the fabric. Looking forward to where you take this!
RAGIII
It does add a distress look to the fabric . Like Rick I'm waiting to see where this leads you . Very interesting indeed .
Terri
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Thanks Rick and Terri
I'm not sure where this going myself! It could be a disaster...The orange colour is a challenge to my eye all by itself but I'll still pursue! 8)
Cheers
Alistair
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Great work,Alistair!
The interior looks very nice and I am looking forward of the orange painted fuselage.
Bye,
Manni
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I can only echoe all the positive comments above: really nice progress and I also love the orange.
Best regards
Andreas
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Alistair, the interior of your DFW looks great, the engine also makes an impression even when it is not so dirty yet ;)
Just one question about the engine’s housing-vent pipe: you’ve use A16 as in the manual. Did you consider exchanging it into a pipe with common cap – as visible in the photo and side profile (deleted E12 in the manual)?
looking forward next updates
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buzby
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Hi Buzby
I see what you mean. A surprising mistake by WNW when I look at it. The vent is clearly capped in the photos. I may look at reverting to the correct cap or I may not. The one installed is very solid and worse outcomes could occur due to changing a minor detail - minor to my mind that is. But thanks for pointing out!
Cheers
Alistair
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Fine progress...
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The fuselage is closed. Engine weathered and dry fitted for the moment - it will be largely concealed by the cowls. The burnt orange colour scheme is applied. I should not be surprised that it looks a lot like wood! But I like it and when it is all done it will be, at least, distinctive... ??? There is a subtle variation in the colour - I have mixed and sprayed five different orange shades - which isn't very apparent in the photos.
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Looks awesome! The color is different and will truly make this one stand out! I love it!
RAGIII
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Beautiful build so far aliluke!
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Been a while but my orange DFW is all ready for the decals and then final assembly. The variations in the orange don't really show up in the photos but I used four different shades to make it less uniform.
(https://i.imgur.com/XtjKbFL.jpg)
Cheers
Alistair
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Looks great!
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Great choice of color and interpretation Alistair. :D
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Lovely Choice of colors!
Andreas
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Looking terrific! I love the unusual color!
RAGIII
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Alistair - looks awesome! How did you do the thin line of white/grey color at the edge of the wings and tail? It came out really well, and is something I have struggled with.
thanks!
Dave
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Thanks gents,
Dave - I just use 12 mm wide Tamiya masking tape. I use the wing pieces as a ruler guide and trace the outline onto white photocopy paper with a pencil. Then I stick the masking tape over the traced line, then I use curved nail scissors to cut out the masking tape along with its paper background. The tape peels off the paper easily and then is positioned on the part. It has to be done in sections and the hardest part is getting the right alignment. It works very well - I only had two very tiny bleeds which were easily touched up - but it is very time consuming! Probably several hours to do all the masking and then about 3 minutes to spray them! I also remove the mask almost immediately to prevent a ridge forming bewteen the two colours.
Cheers
Alistair
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I've always thought masking is an art - the hard part. Painting is just spraying the color on.
The orange color looks great.
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Wonderful, Alistair! The orange looks great. I like it when it comes to subjects besides the standard.
Bye,
Manni
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Wow, this will be a beauty, I like the clean work and the color choice!
Probably several hours to do all the masking and then about 3 minutes to spray them!
And not to forget the hour of cleaning the airbrush after that ;)
Cheers,
Frank
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very sharp!!
Steve
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Thank you for all for your positive feedback.
I am a little unsure of the colour I have chosen. But with the decals now on it sings. Black, white, orange.
Odd spot: I just did a clear over spray and one side of the engine went completely white. Turned out that a very small spider had woven a web over that side of the engine which I didn't see. Brushed out now and all okay but a surpise modellig outcome. What the hell is going on? Oh it's a spider web. ::)
Cheers,
Alistair
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Hi
Up on its wheels now and lower wings, tail planes on. I'm not much of a turnbuckle fan so just use brass tubing to thicken the line and hint at a buckle. Will only do a bit of paint thickening for the control lines to the tail plane horns.
All ready for final assembly and it should be done this coming weekend I think. The orange is more "orange" than the photos show - too much reflection from the lighting. With the black and white colour scheme it really pops and, after earlier doubts about going orange I now like it. Definitely my most distinctive plane and I like its lines!
(https://i.imgur.com/HYDaDlp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Lm4ib6d.jpg)
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Anyway I will make the deadline but it was touch and go for a while with travel for work getting in the way.
Cheers
Alistair
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That is looking great, Alistair! The orange really pops and gives a very distinctive look. The white edging really sets it off.
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Looking excellent ! Love the outlining and contrast! Looks great on it's gear!
RAGIII
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Hi
All finished. I'm not so flash at photography, particularly models, so have tried a few different lighting systems - artifical, natural and full sun. Just for fun that is...My tribute to Des perhaps should be in the "What the hell was he thinking painting it orange?" category. I think I'd be sure to win that one...
But seriously, this has been good to be involved in and so many of the built outcomes here are just incredible. I do not envy the judges!
And finally thanks Dave for thinking of this and making it happen as a tribute to the forums founder - Des. I'm sure he'd be very proud.
(https://i.imgur.com/46Igtmp.jpg)
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Cheers
Alistair
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Outstanding work, Alistair! The orange is very convincing and looks great with the white outlines. I think Des would like this bird.
Bye,
Manni
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It shows all of its beauty in natural light, no orange peel on it!
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Great work, I would not be either in the skin of the judges of this GB!!!
Antonio
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Orange crush!
Excellent, Alistair.
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Simply outstanding work! I Love the color and enjoyed following your processes! Like others I think Des would have loved your build and the GB as a whole!
RAGIII
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Wild! Fantastic scheme - lovely work. Cheers Matt
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That's the bird your daughter just watched for 2 seconds? I can do that much longer, that is a very interesting paint scheme on a great build!
Cheers,
Frank
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Alistair,
your DFW has been promising from the very beginning and looks great after finishing - in every respect.
And experimenting with colors or their own interpretation can give interesting results. I really like it.
I'm also glad that we were building our DFW models almost simultaneously, that was awesome.
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buzby
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Wow!! That hurts my eyes! What an original scheme - and an outstanding model too. Your photography is a great deal better than mine - I think that I will come to you for lessons!!
Stephen.
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A very trim, neat and smart ship! Love it!
Dan
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Thanks all, what a great group! I went out on a bit of a limb here...but I have a result that I enjoy looking at. I promise to stick to the recommended schemes in the future...or maybe I don't... 8)
Stephen - I hope your eye pain improves! My photography feels like a fail every time but you are welcome to visit us in Wellington, New Zealand.
And to all - this is has been a fantastic group build - a deadline is kind of useful. Missing it doesn't matter - other things always get in the way - but it gives you the impetus to push on. Please repeat next year Dave - a great and fitting tribute to Des.
Best,
Alistair
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Another awesome DFW. That plane generally is so underrated, but you did that great kit really justice. The orange (which is the new black I heard) looks great.
Andreas
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"I promise to stick to the recommended schemes in the future...or maybe I don't... 8)"
Well, if you're considering a 'Hello Kitty' Fokker, you'll be pushing it!
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Great final results!!
Steve