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Title: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on December 19, 2018, 07:53:12 AM: Dear all,

since I hearded about CSM's plans to release a Nieuport 17 for the first time, I could hardly wait to get one. I love the Nieuport biplanes and although the venerable Hobbycraft kit surely was a good one in its times, these times are long gone.
When Edgar asked me if I would build one and put it onto a base like I did with my Special Hobby Nieuport 11, of course I agreed immediately. So I was honored with a free example of this formidable new kit which is phraised all over the internet. I am very grateful to Edgar for this honor and could hardly wait starting the kit since I received it. But an annoying cold kept me off the work bench for two weeks and forced me to consume more tea than I ever had before intented to drink in my whole lifetime.
My intention is to build this kit completely out of the box, and it is a great coincidence that after browsing through the parts and the instructions there remainded nothing in my eyes which would have to be added anyway. All you need is in the box :)
Meanwhile I went through my library (which is a pure euphemism for my messy shelves) and picked out the most important literature on the Nieuport 17.
(https://picload.org/image/dccdadwp/nieuport17-1.jpg)

The good thing being ill was that I had plenty of time to choose a color sheme, which is always a pain for me. This very case doesn't ease the pain as there are countless striking color schemes for the Nieuport 17 and the kit alone gives four decal options. I tend to avoid kit's decals, in most cases simply because I want to do a certain scheme that is no part of any decal sheet, but in this case here I will go with the kit's decals. The choosen options look too good and are obviously too well researched. My choice fell on André René Celestin Herbelins Nieuport 17 from Escadrille N102 in late 1916 or early 1917. The serial is unknown, but the walking Death and the words "risque tout" gives it its own morbid beauty. And there is another reason for this color scheme. The only original picture I could find of this machine showed it obviously with removed engine covers which makes it possible to show more of the greatly detailed interior of this kit.
(http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escadrille/Photos3/102_Herbelin_Nieuport17.jpg)
I am eagerly waiting for some modelling time in the next days.
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on December 19, 2018, 08:01:01 AM: Looking forward to your build. I am sure I will learn a lot that will help with my own build as you progress.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: aliluke on December 19, 2018, 04:00:41 PM: Cool! Another one - mine is in the box for a wee while yet so I have a lot to learn and look forward to.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Edo on December 19, 2018, 04:01:10 PM: yeah! me too!
I’ll use the informations I gather here as a guide when I’ll build mine :D
hope you’ll get well soon so to start your build!
ciao
edo
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Bughunter on December 29, 2018, 08:50:22 PM: Oh, a great kit will be transformed into a beauty - I'm sure!
Have fun!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Juan on December 30, 2018, 12:30:40 AM: Looking forward to your build, this kit is a beauty.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on January 16, 2019, 08:49:16 AM: Thank you very much Rick — I am sure I will learn from your build. Thank you very much Alistair, Edo, Frank and Juan. Your following is much apprechiated.

sorry for having let you wait for so long, but it took me a while until I had some parts in my hands that looked worth taking a picture of and posting it here. I followed the instructions and cleaned up all the tiny interior parts that I glued together in subassemblies that would ease painting. I used my usual Gunze and Tamiya colors for the spray paint job and my Spanish Acrylics for brush painting. For the wood grain I used acrylics this time to fasten the drying time.

I still have serious troubles with my photo hosting page as they suddenly fail to show up propper links to embed photos on forums. Therefore I had entirely to stop posting on the great French forum at the moment and I have to excuse for any distorted pictures here. As soon as time allows I will fix that and seek for another picture hosting page that works fine.

(https://picload.org/image/dciooaap/f13ad4a0-379a-46cf-b795-7308d6.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciooaaw/7fe33556-629e-4cfb-b692-d49154.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciooaog/5b247993-6734-4ace-9453-a84c61.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciooaor/4f5b1d0a-7764-4cc5-89b0-172fed.jpg)

As this is going to be an OOB build for the German internet magazine „kitchecker“ that I am writing for from time to time, I did not add any parts to the cockpit that are not in the box besides of the rigging material. As usual I use flexible stuff here for the interior due to the fragility of the small parts. The fit of the interior is fantastic and I didn’t have any fitting problems until now. And although the cockpit is a very busy place there is no problem with interfering parts when you follow exactly the instructions.

(https://picload.org/image/dciooaod/9cf45ec9-6cb3-48a4-a495-4eea43.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciooaoa/d56b8c1c-c366-4c56-badb-dd7f4b.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciooaoo/733a876e-73c9-471a-ba50-e5cb94.jpg)

best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: lcarroll on January 16, 2019, 12:30:08 PM: Andreas,
That's a great start, the wood work is "top drawer". I also like the grey blue on the metal frame, is it Vallejo PRU Blue like Rag III used or a different paint? This is a great Kit and, after doing the "In Box" Review recently I can't wait to start it! I'm looking forward to seeing more as you work your magic with this Kit.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on January 16, 2019, 01:57:23 PM: Stunning wood work Andreas! I may have to go back and do a little more to some of my parts ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: coyotemagic on January 16, 2019, 03:12:03 PM: Beautiful office, Andreas! I love what you've done with the place!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: gbrivio on January 16, 2019, 04:16:32 PM: Nice and clean cockpit. I like your painting.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Manni on January 16, 2019, 06:01:32 PM: Wonderful! I'm always amazed by your painting technique. Especially how you create such great contrasts.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Syd Solo on January 17, 2019, 12:13:47 AM: Nice work and very quick, too. Love your wood painting style.

Cheers

Syd
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: lone modeller on January 17, 2019, 05:14:05 AM: That is a superb piece of modelling so far - well up to your usual very high standards. I am truly amazed at the amount of detail in this kit and you are doing it all great justice.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: jeroen_R90S on January 17, 2019, 06:16:15 AM: Another very nice Nieuport 17 in the making! I really like your wood-tones, as well as the blue-ish grey colour! :)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: pepperman42 on January 17, 2019, 11:51:24 PM: Nice work! Looking forward to more updates.

Steve
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on January 18, 2019, 08:28:27 AM: Thank you very much, guys, for your encouraging words! They mean a lot for me.
Lance, I used a Tamiya paint for the blue, it’s XF-18 I think (I can only read a half of the „8“ because I once smeared some of the paint over the label when I splashed around with my paints... :-\

I finished the interior besides some last touch ups with a thin brush here and there. After gluing the rear fuselage together, which consists of six parts that fit like a dream, this rear part is glued onto the back of the interior structure which is quite a unique parts breakdown for a fuselage. But it went together without any problems. Also the forward decking is no problem to try fit in neither had been the fit of the interior structure on the single lower wing part. here I had used a piece of Uschi van der Rostens wood grain decal for the floor. But the fit of the side panels is a little bit tricky and I spent some time to scratch down its thickness and also to reduce the upper main bars of the interior structure. i hope it fits also with glue after spraying the inside of these panels in a light ocre shade for the wood grain. Well, it starts to look like a Nieuport...
(https://picload.org/image/dcillglo/768576b4-cb3e-4ea0-af87-167fa8.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dcillgll/4bd9ec99-14af-4a40-be4a-45ce8c.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dcillglc/1389b8d4-82fe-4097-96ab-6738c6.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dcillgli/e25d3c00-a83c-479d-8f11-77fa1f.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dcillglp/3152957d-9308-4141-bf49-60385c.jpg)
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: lcarroll on January 18, 2019, 09:31:09 AM: Thanks for the reply on the paint Andreas. It has to be XF-18 Medium Blue, I have some and it looks like a match. Great finish on the cockpit, looking very nice indeed!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: lone modeller on January 19, 2019, 05:10:00 AM: Asalways I am blown away by the quality of the finish and detail that you manage on your models. This is no exception.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on January 19, 2019, 09:20:50 AM: Beautifully done Andreas I am Blown away like others!! I closed mine up so I wouldn't have to compare :o
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Monty on January 21, 2019, 05:06:33 AM: I'm following this build very carefully, Andreas - some beautiful work! I really appreciate the detailed explanations - I learn a lot! Regards, Marc
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Bughunter on January 24, 2019, 02:41:10 AM: Quote from: Borsos on January 18, 2019, 08:28:27 AM
(https://picload.org/image/dcillglo/768576b4-cb3e-4ea0-af87-167fa8.jpg)
Andreas, if you can paint wood, like the seat and the headrest on this picture :o you don't need to work with real wood.
I'm deeply impressed, really!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: xmald on January 24, 2019, 03:11:44 AM: Great work! I really love the woodgrain - extremely realistic. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: xan on January 25, 2019, 07:24:15 AM: One month and I didn't saw your mount!!!
you are doing a winderfull job!
congretulations!
Herbelin 's marking are outstanding!
Xan
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on January 25, 2019, 09:26:33 AM: Simply gorgeous Andreas. I see much that I can and will do better on my next Nieuport 17!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: gbrivio on January 25, 2019, 04:28:47 PM: The completed interior looks great, and a good reference when building this excellent kit.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on January 26, 2019, 06:49:44 AM: Lance, Stephen, Rick, Marc, Frank, xmald, Xan and Giuseppe, thank you very much for your kind words!

I painted the interior of the side panels and the forward fuselage cover. On the edges I had to remove some material to make the panels fit the fuselage frame:
(https://picload.org/image/dciiarli/28f232f2-842b-4554-b5b8-c8e7a7.jpg)
Meanwhile I closed the fuselage. I used Vallejo putty for the first time to close some minor seams and it works really fine with a watered fingertip.
(https://picload.org/image/dciiarlp/307e5747-aed5-434f-aefd-c175e4.jpg)
I also glued together some subassemblies. I dryfitted the fuselage and the engine cover. The fit is very good.
(https://picload.org/image/dciiarlw/780216a0-0605-4cca-996c-4280b1.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciiarcg/da9f3f4c-6202-4a41-840d-bbfd0c.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciiarcr/68f5b245-dd50-4a65-8aee-bbde1d.jpg)
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: lone modeller on January 26, 2019, 07:19:56 AM: I completely agree with Frank: your wood pinting is so good it really does look like the real thing. This model is coming together very quickly but there is no loss of quality as a resuly. Simply marvellous.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Juan on January 26, 2019, 08:18:29 AM: Andreas, your talent + this great kit = a beautiful result. Looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: pepperman42 on January 26, 2019, 10:25:35 AM: Beautiful work. As others have said the wood finish is excellent!!

Steve
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on January 26, 2019, 11:19:56 AM: Gorgeous work! You have passed me in progress and excellence 8) I Love your work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: aliluke on January 27, 2019, 03:12:17 PM: Hi Andreas
This is looking fantastic. I was going to ask about the blue as well but picked up your answer to Lance. Looking forward to more progress and I'm lifting the little Nieuport up my list of "what's next?".

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on January 29, 2019, 07:26:44 AM: Steven, Juan, Steve, Rick and Alistair, thank you very much for your interest and your comments!

Quote from: RAGIII on January 26, 2019, 11:19:56 AM
You have passed me in progress and excellence 8) I Love your work!
RAGIII

It doesn’t happen very often, Rick, but here I do not agree with you!

Alistair, you won’t regret starting that one!

I‘ve spent some hours in the paint shop.
(https://picload.org/image/dciwrrll/956e5ffb-9608-49b4-924d-7a9a88.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciwrrlc/b4a197ac-c8ab-4007-8c35-e6e9d9.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciwrrli/52a484e7-521d-4628-b7f9-4d0b14.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciwrrlp/5c4442a5-cfd1-4fc3-9be3-2287f1.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciwrrlw/e8d87f99-6200-4d64-ba1a-7d044e.jpg)
(https://picload.org/image/dciwrrcg/3143b73a-8e41-44f4-9587-1ba7c3.jpg)
For the enduit metalisee I used Gunze‘s silver with some drops of white. The wheel hubs and undercarriage receeived a shot of Vallejos white aluminium and the cowling is painted with chrome from the same brand.
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Captain Slower on January 29, 2019, 02:54:21 PM: Were you using Gunze Aqueous or solvent based?
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: lone modeller on January 30, 2019, 03:23:27 AM: The finish on the cowling and other parts is soooo realistic! I could easily believe that the cowling is metal. The quality of your modelling never ceases to impress - this is no exception.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on January 30, 2019, 07:55:14 AM: You have chosen terrific colors for your Nieuport. They look awesome! As a general question, what are your weathering plans. I was going to tape off and pre shade the wing ribs but I am not seeing a lot/any indication of the tapes in photos. Just curious.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Alexis on January 30, 2019, 11:45:49 AM: Eye candy ! :)

Terri
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on February 01, 2019, 04:42:08 AM: Thank you very much, Captain, Stephen, Rick and Terri.

Yes, I only use aqueos, no slovent based Gunze colors.

The question about weathering is a very good one, Rick. I didn’t see any prominent tapes on b/w pictures neither nor did I on the colour pictures of the Belgian Nieuport 23 in the Datafile Special. I think I‘ll postshade with smoke as usual anyway to break a monotone colour and try to keep it very subtle. As the enduit metalisee is a solid color, I could overspray the effect with some shots of dilutet silver if the smoke should look too prominent.

Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on February 01, 2019, 09:44:09 AM: Quote from: Borsos on February 01, 2019, 04:42:08 AM
Thank you very much, Captain, Stephen, Rick and Terri.

Yes, I only use aqueos, no slovent based Gunze colors.

The question about weathering is a very good one, Rick. I didn’t see any prominent tapes on b/w pictures neither nor did I on the colour pictures of the Belgian Nieuport 23 in the Datafile Special. I think I‘ll postshade with smoke as usual anyway to break a monotone colour and try to keep it very subtle. As the enduit metalisee is a solid color, I could overspray the effect with some shots of dilutet silver if the smoke should look too prominent.

Best regards
Andreas

Thanks for your thoughts on the weathering. I kind of have an idea on what I want with the fuselage but the wings were/are a bit different. Might do as you plan... we shall see.
RSGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on February 01, 2019, 02:52:41 PM: Quote from: RAGIII on February 01, 2019, 09:44:09 AM
Quote from: Borsos on February 01, 2019, 04:42:08 AM
Thank you very much, Captain, Stephen, Rick and Terri.

Yes, I only use aqueos, no slovent based Gunze colors.

The question about weathering is a very good one, Rick. I didn’t see any prominent tapes on b/w pictures neither nor did I on the colour pictures of the Belgian Nieuport 23 in the Datafile Special. I think I‘ll postshade with smoke as usual anyway to break a monotone colour and try to keep it very subtle. As the enduit metalisee is a solid color, I could overspray the effect with some shots of dilutet silver if the smoke should look too prominent.

Best regards
Andreas

Thanks for your thoughts on the weathering. I kind of have an idea on what I want with the fuselage but the wings were/are a bit different. Might do as you plan... we shall see.
RSGIII

Sadly my thoughts come out of embarrassment as I have no better ideas ::)
I am keen on seeing how you do the weathering!
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: gbrivio on February 01, 2019, 06:25:51 PM: Very nice painting.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: jeroen_R90S on February 02, 2019, 05:23:58 AM: Looks very good -while visiting our local hobby shop they brought the new-ish Vallejo metal colours to my attention. That cowling does like pretty shiny, how do you like them?
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on February 02, 2019, 08:41:47 PM: Thanks Giuseppe and Jeroen!
Jeroen, as far as I can say, these new Vallejo metal colors are as good as the classic Alclad colors but without the smell... And you don’t need to paint the surface black before, any color as primer does the job. I really like them.
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: pepperman42 on February 03, 2019, 02:48:57 AM: Nice paint. The cowl is amazing

Steve
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on February 17, 2019, 05:41:07 PM: Thank you Steve!

I found a new home for my pictures. After many troubles with my hosting site I received an Email that it is shutting down. Obviously I wasn’t the only one who had troubles. Now I try out a German hosting site called „Abload“. Works fine at the moment...

Meanwhile I added some shadowing with Gunze Smoke to the wings and fuselage. I didn’t accentuate the rib Tapes in this case as they are barely visible on original pics. Some shots of shiny clear and the decals will follow.
(https://abload.de/img/6fbca0fe-0bfd-4513-a0tjdw.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=6fbca0fe-0bfd-4513-a0tjdw.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/cd19be14-b69e-4258-aidjg4.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=cd19be14-b69e-4258-aidjg4.jpeg)
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Monty on February 18, 2019, 12:29:26 AM: Some lovely work here Andreas! I do love your use of colour and I learn a lot all the time... Super clean, neat and realistic too! Marc
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on February 18, 2019, 10:38:12 AM: Love the subtle shading!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on February 26, 2019, 07:51:37 AM: Thanks a lot, Monty and Rick!

Things are getting closer to the final assembly. I painted the struts and added the small Nieuport company decals on them.
(https://abload.de/img/c1d4b411-19cc-4d29-9kvkc6.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=c1d4b411-19cc-4d29-9kvkc6.jpeg)
Besides of that I added and weathered the decals.
(https://abload.de/img/eafeed3e-6c02-4341-8o4j3v.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=eafeed3e-6c02-4341-8o4j3v.jpeg)
The actual serial number of this machine is unknown and the instructions offer some possible serials that could fit. I chose one of them. The decals are thin and flexible and there were no problems using them. But one has to be careful when using decal softeners.
(https://abload.de/img/cbaa5f18-aead-468e-ac6kkr.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=cbaa5f18-aead-468e-ac6kkr.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/233d0a0e-81ef-4aca-8fijpl.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=233d0a0e-81ef-4aca-8fijpl.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/3504e587-55dd-47d4-a0mkef.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=3504e587-55dd-47d4-a0mkef.jpeg)
I gave the canvas covered parts of the machine a good shot of Gunzes dull clear that can be polished a little with a kitchen towel. Now these surfaces contrast well with the metal parts. I also painted the lower part of the windshield in wood colors as I did with the inner part for fitting the inspection pannels. these are made of wood on the real thing ;)
I still need to paint the cockpit coaming, the bungee chord on the undercarriage and some other small items. I also need to give it a washing here and there to make some details pop out more. Then I plan to glue the whole thing together. Time for first thoughts regarding the base for this plane...
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Edo on February 26, 2019, 03:58:59 PM: well Adreas! another masterpiece....
even i am not a big fan of silver finish i have to admit that you acheived a wonderful result! I like very much the shading on the lower wing.... i can’t wait to see it finished...
ciao
edo
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: lcarroll on February 27, 2019, 12:53:02 AM: Superb results on that difficult aluminum finish Andreas, and the 'wash" should really take it to perfection. Beautiful results overall at this stage and the finished model promises to be spectacular, nicely done! 8) 8) 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: lone modeller on February 27, 2019, 03:38:10 AM: I have just read through all of this Andreas because there is so much to leaarn and admire. The finish that you achieve on your models is always just right - clear but not artiificially so, the parts look just like the materials they are supposed to represent. I know that the base which you will construct will also look just the part - am looking forward to seeing it.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Bughunter on February 27, 2019, 04:09:46 AM: Andreas, this will be again a great model from your bench, still with your personal style.
Hope to see it in Fürstenfeldbruck soon!

I really like the small Nieuport stickers, again a detail, which I do not have on my little Flyboys machine.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Juan on February 27, 2019, 05:31:00 AM: Fantastic Andreas, really enjoying your build.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on February 27, 2019, 06:58:06 AM: Thank you very much Edo, Lance, Stephen, Frank and Juan!

There’s something I didn’t like on my model so far:
(https://abload.de/img/c66897f5-f4c7-4d5c-bfvkyj.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=c66897f5-f4c7-4d5c-bfvkyj.jpeg)
It should have been puttied and sanded down. I didn’t do it due to ... laziness :)
But I knew I always would look at the model and think „why haven’t I fixed that!?“
Here it is now. Puttied, sanded down and repainted. I feel much better now.
(https://abload.de/img/cf17c47f-53fb-42e2-8oqjrc.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=cf17c47f-53fb-42e2-8oqjrc.jpeg)
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Bughunter on February 27, 2019, 07:06:17 AM: Quote from: Borsos on February 27, 2019, 06:58:06 AM
But I knew I always would look at the model and think „why haven’t I fixed that!?“
I know that feeling, and I can fully understand, that you fixed it. In a perfect way!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on February 28, 2019, 07:09:03 AM: Lovely weathering and I am glad you made yourself more satisfied by filling and sanding the seam that was bothering you ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: pepperman42 on February 28, 2019, 11:26:00 PM: Great update!!

Steve
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: gbrivio on March 01, 2019, 09:07:32 AM: Great weathering, it really changed your Nieuport's look. Very realistic.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on March 01, 2019, 09:24:33 AM: Frank, Rick, Steve and Giuseppe,
Thank you very much for your kind words!

Some more progress... engine, Vickers, undercarriage, engine cover...
(https://abload.de/img/0e675660-d3d0-425a-9cik8x.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=0e675660-d3d0-425a-9cik8x.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/b1c84d75-f176-4d98-9dyjjr.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=b1c84d75-f176-4d98-9dyjjr.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/b94a2f4b-9818-43a3-9tlkth.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=b94a2f4b-9818-43a3-9tlkth.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/e46af9c8-6e00-41d3-8vyjww.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=e46af9c8-6e00-41d3-8vyjww.jpeg)
Oil a la Bud:
(https://abload.de/img/bb586b60-e1cf-4339-975k5m.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=bb586b60-e1cf-4339-975k5m.jpeg)
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on March 07, 2019, 09:31:52 AM: And now it’s a biplane. The rigging is one of the simplest and fastest of all WWI planes I think. Attaching the top wing went like a charm. It was the first time i installed all anchor points for the rigging before attaching the top wing, which was problemfree.
(https://abload.de/img/48e28335-2fbc-4c2f-86lkkw.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=48e28335-2fbc-4c2f-86lkkw.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/5998df30-0e36-46e7-broj6z.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=5998df30-0e36-46e7-broj6z.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/df0f9ecf-50f7-4345-94ikyn.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=df0f9ecf-50f7-4345-94ikyn.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/e792c30b-a5c2-4f4a-98bkq5.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=e792c30b-a5c2-4f4a-98bkq5.jpeg)
Some touch uos here and there and some minor details are still missing like the windscreen or the upper wing Lewis.
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on March 07, 2019, 09:35:29 AM: Beautiful! I agree completely about the rigging and wing attachment. I Love your Nieuport!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: dr 1 ace on March 07, 2019, 10:16:50 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on March 07, 2019, 09:35:29 AM
Beautiful! I agree completely about the rigging and wing attachment. I Love your Nieuport!
RAGIII

Agree, coming along nicely, await finished pictures !

Ed
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Bughunter on March 08, 2019, 07:53:14 AM: Oh the hope is growing that I can see this Nieuport in real the coming weekend - great progress!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Manni on March 08, 2019, 07:47:23 PM: Wonderfukl work. The shadeing looks really great. It brings the model more realisic.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: pepperman42 on March 09, 2019, 12:55:38 AM: Love it. The fluid seeping thru the fuselage side is very effective!!

Steve
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: GAJouette on March 09, 2019, 01:24:14 AM: Andreas,
Your Nieuport is a work of art in progress my old friend. Her weathering is some of the best I've seen. The oil stained fabric is most impressive. Outstanding project to date.Keep up your high standards of excellence.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on March 13, 2019, 07:09:23 AM: Rick, Ed, Frank, Manni, Steve and Gregory thank you very much for your interest and your friendly words!

That one is finished. It is a wonderful kit in every aspect.
(https://abload.de/img/e07d2f2b-214e-4334-9wakjq.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=e07d2f2b-214e-4334-9wakjq.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/3a164242-ae9f-4790-9vij2k.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=3a164242-ae9f-4790-9vij2k.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/da98f8bc-fe5f-46e5-a1rk8p.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=da98f8bc-fe5f-46e5-a1rk8p.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/e2be0cd0-969e-4aa7-9qhj2b.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=e2be0cd0-969e-4aa7-9qhj2b.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/79371755-e9a4-4dd2-ab4k49.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=79371755-e9a4-4dd2-ab4k49.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/00056d23-60c1-4ff3-9emjo7.jpeg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=00056d23-60c1-4ff3-9emjo7.jpeg)
I am waiting for some figures. When they are painted the Nieuport will get its base. To be seen in the „completed“ section soon.
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on March 13, 2019, 07:36:47 AM: Stunning build Andreas! I love your work on this one as always. Looking forward to the figures and base!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: kensar on March 13, 2019, 10:10:34 AM: One day i'm gonna have to get me one of these.

Excellent weathering - I really like the oil dripping from the cowl. What kind of paint did you use? Oils, enamels, or something else?
The stitching on the side of the fuse behind the cowling looks the part also.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Edo on March 13, 2019, 03:56:40 PM: hey Andreas! this is really a beauty!
may i ask you if you glued acetate film both side of the cockpit “window”
thank you
ciao
edo
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: buzby on March 13, 2019, 05:47:40 PM: Andreas, you've build great looking Nieuport. I would have chosen the same marking option...
8)
buzby

have you started with Halbie?
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on March 14, 2019, 05:01:57 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on March 13, 2019, 07:36:47 AM
Stunning build Andreas! I love your work on this one as always. Looking forward to the figures and base!
RAGIII

Thank you very much Rick, I am happy that you like it.

Quote from: p9o1r1sche on March 13, 2019, 10:10:34 AM
One day i'm gonna have to get me one of these.

Excellent weathering - I really like the oil dripping from the cowl. What kind of paint did you use? Oils, enamels, or something else?
The stitching on the side of the fuse behind the cowling looks the part also.

Thanks a lot Ken, I used some oils and some drops of AK Engine Oil, which is a glossy enamel color.

Quote from: Edo on March 13, 2019, 03:56:40 PM
hey Andreas! this is really a beauty!
may i ask you if you glued acetate film both side of the cockpit “window”
thank you
ciao
edo

Thank you Edo! I glued the acetate film in the small recesses of the one window half before I glued both halves together. Went together much simplier than I had expected.

Quote from: buzby on March 13, 2019, 05:47:40 PM
Andreas, you've build great looking Nieuport. I would have chosen the same marking option...
8)
buzby

have you started with Halbie?

Thanks Buzby, no I didn‘t start the Halberstadt yet. There was a disease in my working room. this disease was called „of course you can build several kits at the same time“. I had to fight that disease, I am trying to get back not to a single project but to ‚just two or three projects at the same time‘, so the Halberstadt had to wait.

andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: aliluke on March 14, 2019, 06:49:08 AM: Brilliant outcome Andreas. I'm looking forward to getting to this kit. I will be doing the same scheme as you and this log will be the perfect reference.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: pepperman42 on March 14, 2019, 09:00:22 AM: Nicely finished

Steve
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Edo on March 14, 2019, 03:52:34 PM: thank you Andreas,
in the early type there is just one window sturt but has recesses on both sides.... this is why i ask as i thougt it was the same on the late type...
cioa
edo
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on April 23, 2019, 02:45:04 AM: Thank you a lot!

Well, I aiten‘t dead yet, like Granny Weatherwax would possibly say, but it’s been a while since I made progress here. finally I got the figures converted the way I wanted:
(https://abload.de/img/97fbbdbd-179f-4050-8kpj14.jpeg)
The mechanic on the left and the pilot in the middle are CSM figures, which I changed a little. I wanted the mechanic wear a bonnet de police, so I changed his head for a hornet head and added a bonnet de police sculpted from Green Stuff. The Pilot checking his Revolver fits in my opinion perfectly next to an airplane marked „Risque tout“. I wanted him just before taking off, so I also replaced his head wearing an officers cap with a hornet head which I equipped with a leather flying helmet and goggles from Green Stuff. I didn’t want to give him a crash helmet (risque tout...), as especially fighter pilots seem to have left them off frequently. The figure on the right is a new one frim Kellerkind which normally holds a paintbrush in his hand. i changed that for a wrench cut from scrap plastic.
Now I only need the time and inspiration to paint them...
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on April 23, 2019, 07:16:03 AM: Outstanding conversion work on the figures Andreas! You are a WONDER!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: Borsos on September 24, 2019, 12:33:42 AM: Thank you so much Rick, you are very kind.

I finally got this finished:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10530.0
Title: Re: Nieuport 17, late version, Copper State Models 1:32
Post by: RAGIII on September 24, 2019, 12:38:33 AM: Stunning build Andreas. I just left more comments on the Completed Models thread.

RAGIII