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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Gisbod on December 04, 2018, 04:54:28 PM
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Hi all,
Thought I ought to get back to proper WW1 after the Vildebeest build..
Hopefully will end up as an article in ‘Scale Aviation Modeller’ - if I don’t make a pigs ear of it.
This build was mainly prompted by the subject matter - Lt. W.R. Oulton AFC of 143 Squadron, of whom I am lucky enough to have his medals:
(https://s6.postimg.cc/7o4g5nnc1/IMG_3008.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://s6.postimg.cc/yjj2yc401/0998_ECF8-93_FF-4135-8456-86_D9_A0_C820_F5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xu0alz3gd/)
(https://s6.postimg.cc/c51rqklip/C8_F0411_C-5189-4_C20-_B720-_CDAB4_B974_C8_D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h3pa53pbh/)
(https://s6.postimg.cc/k2r85z74h/fullsizeoutput_ae5.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
He won the AFC for his actions in this aircraft against the Gothas & Zeppelins raiders on Southen England.
I have made a start but no pictures just yet. First impressions are an excellently detailed kit, very high part count in the cockpit for a 1/48 kit. My main concern is the rib stitch detail, which whilst excellently done, is nevertheless, overdone. So do I leave it be or try and sand it down a notch and risk spoiling the surfaces? Hmmm.
There are lots of Brassin extras for this kit. However, I’m struggling to see the differences from the kit parts? I’m holding off from those for the time being. I am tempted, however, by the HGW fabric seatbelts set, as I think the kit belts (lovely as they are) depict a later aircraft with shoulder harnesses. The HGW set also have those lovely separate buckles. :D
My other question is colour. The specially developed night colour - NIVO (Night Invisible Varnish Orfordness) - how did it differ from PC10?
Thanks for looking in,
Guy
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Signed up and watching Guy.
I would leave the stitching alone, no need to over complicate things... at my age this is the way I see it, life is too short.
Ryan
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Excellent advice Ryan!
I’d just be opening a can of worms.. thanks
Guy
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Hm, I think I have an "deja-vu"? Some internal voice told me, I should know this some how?
Regarding your NIVO question:
I followed the Eduard recommendation and used Gunze.
That color has also a own Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIVO
Please see the color bar on the right side and the definitions below that. And you have a picture of an aircraft with that color.
Cheers,
Frank
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Evening,
She’s moving along nicely. It’s like making a Wingnut’s kit. Lovely detail and fit. I’ve made a start on the initial paint run. MRP Doped Linen as a base coat for the oils. I had to experiment quite a bit for this scale. I tried acrylic and enamels but settled on my standard artists oils, but (copying Ryan), I diluted them quite heavily with artists turps and a splash of Uschi’s quick drying solution. It took me ages to get it to what I considered to be acceptable.
I hope it looks understated? I think it’s a bit harder the smaller the scale. Still lots to do. Detail painting up next.
Guy
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQNktvhf/77-EA9-CAD-E59-A-4-F15-B097-0-DB2-FBCA6792.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nM7c0yYK)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qqFzmXfr/8949-AEE9-B0-A9-45-C6-B3-D4-8269534-AFFAF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fSxzydTq)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQNktvhf/77-EA9-CAD-E59-A-4-F15-B097-0-DB2-FBCA6792.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nM7c0yYK)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KzJKThJR/7-E36351-C-168-F-47-DA-A8-CF-50-DA6-B21-BE5-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XGB7MmMb)
Lovely photo etch fret:
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXgmzZYY/AE1-E88-DA-33-AB-4-ECA-9-D1-D-FA62135-F78-E5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yhz2wQPh)
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Hm, I think I have an "deja-vu"? Some internal voice told me, I should know this some how?
Regarding your NIVO question:
I followed the Eduard recommendation and used Gunze.
That color has also a own Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIVO
Please see the color bar on the right side and the definitions below that. And you have a picture of an aircraft with that color.
Cheers,
Frank
Ah thanks Frank, that’s helpful.
Guy
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Oh, the PE is improved! In my Royal kit there was only the belt set on the upper left corner, the two wide ones are new.
Have fun with this build,
Frank
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Guy it looks just fine.
Ryan
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and yes it takes a few applications to get it right.
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So after a bit of research - Tamiya XF-61 Dark Green seems the go to, out of the bottle’ option...
The original colour is described as a dark grey/ green with a noticeable sheen (later abandoned as it was considered too reflective from searchlights).
Guy
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Nice start on your S.E.5a, will follow with interest.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Thanks Giuseppe,
I’ve finished the detail painting..
This is the best I can get to on the IP - please bear in mind it’s macro photography & 1/48 scale so go easy on me.. All I can say is it looks good on the bench with normal reading glasses on!
Guy
(https://i.postimg.cc/yNmJBByt/ACFC5-B82-DE60-4027-83-CA-59-B2765-C0-A15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WD4p6BKw)
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Guy there absolutely is a perfect viewing distance in our hobby and the camera can be very cruel.
On my screen that part looks to be about 4 times the size it actually is...it's a great paint job.
Ryan
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I think the interior wood and IP look stunning. Could pass easily for a larger scale!
RAGIII
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Evening all,
I’ve had to wait on the HGW seat belts from Hannants. Finally arrived today...
So I’ve finished the cockpit. For side rigging I used Uschi’s elastic thread. I’m not really a fan, but I couldn’t think of anything else that would have done the job. The rudder cables are back to monofilament. I’ve cut the Vickers in two to ease painting (not shown fitted in the photos). The kit is spectacularly good, it really is a Wingnuts kit in disguise!
(https://i.postimg.cc/FsqwWqz8/2-E0-B4370-EAFA-4514-9597-AAB2-AA3-B7-B78.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TpVkhtrJ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/hGR6gd90/B347-CFE8-D187-4-AA8-B826-C773-BF148-C9-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjNMBt78)
(https://i.postimg.cc/43vM3xPR/9-BA0-A1-BA-CC8-D-456-B-B048-CBC3-B136-A128.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p9TkGx3s)
(https://i.postimg.cc/0NdwXTkC/098-C55-F4-F9-B6-4-FF5-881-F-0-F7497-C8-B6-F8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDzzhfJD)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Px2RmV06/CE8-EDF89-D656-451-C-BD1-F-5-BCB721-C041-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBvHmHb3)
The engine is very nice, it looks detailed but has a very low parts count. I’ve added some brass wire as per period pictures, but nothing else. I haven't added any ignition wiring. I’m not sure how much you’d see in this scale.
(https://i.postimg.cc/6pvgD0G3/0-E739-DCE-A844-408-B-BA13-6-BFE744-B6990.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sM3TW5md)
(https://i.postimg.cc/j22kvQbR/D4335096-E049-4159-85-C1-D112-EA4-BD268.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xNrR1m8Z)
Next up is painting I think.
Thanks
Guy
Ps I’ve spruced up the IP Krow, and thanks Rick!
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Hi Guy
That is spectacular - incredible detail. Can't believe it is 1:48!
Cheers
Alistair
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Thanks Alistair :)
It’s taken longer than I thought to get to the painting stage. It’s not difficult, but it is fairly complex for this scale. The attention to detail is excellent! The gunsight is particularly nice.
I’m trying to make as much as I can prior to painting...
(https://i.postimg.cc/t4TS6k44/AA127-D72-37-A1-4-A7-C-86-E3-6038-A211-A2-FE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCGxtrNG)
Guy
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Your speed with this complex kit is impressive - you doing things in a week for which I need a month :o
Cheers,
Frank
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That’s just because you do yours properly Frank!
Super kit isn’t it?
Guy
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Super kit isn’t it?
Yes, as I said in my build report. All the nice little things you can only notice, if you build this kit yourself :)
The right kit to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Eduard :-*
Have fun with painting,
Frank
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Thanks, will do Frank ;)
In this picture there seems to be a thing hanging under the cockpit area (just below and forward of the fuselage roundel).. a terminal for an external wire to the Holt Flares?
(https://s6.postimg.cc/k2r85z74h/fullsizeoutput_ae5.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Any thoughts?
Guy
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Outstanding work. Your SE is looking gorgeous!
RAGIII
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Thanks Rick :)
I’ve got some paint on - I wasn’t quite sure of the NIVO colour, in the end, I plumped for MRP RAF dark green with a dash of PC10. I’ve no idea how accurate it is. More of a guess! The MRP paints are fantastic - super smooth. Undersides are MRP doped linen with the ribs highlighted with a mix of off white.
Glossed with Tamiya clear and ready for decalling and further effects.
Thanks
Guy
(https://i.postimg.cc/tgr5T5D3/9-F5-C02-EC-AAC5-41-F3-85-F3-D56-ECD43-D524.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWXsp190)
(https://i.postimg.cc/B6XC1Kwd/B6-D04-BAA-5697-48-B9-95-D5-E507352-F1925.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8Jgv2jGH)
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Looks excellent to me. Never tried to paint Nivo 8) The paints do look very smooth. I really need to try more brands.
RAGIII
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Thanks again Rick ;)
Yes, I’d give the MRP a go, they are the best finish of everything I’ve tried to date. You need to mist on in layers to build up the opacity - but it dries almost instantly, so you can do it in one sitting. They’re not the cheapest, but they do a PC10 and various linen shades, so worth a trial at least.
She’s suddenly come on quickly! As I mentioned before, the Rib stitching effect was bothering me and, whilst I didn’t want to remove it, I did end up toning it down with a very light sanding with a very fine Tamiya sanding sponge (I love these for contoured surfaces!). It’s kept the detail but removed the pin like high points. To my eye, it’s a big improvement. It just takes the edge off the overly raised stitches.
The viewing ports for the internal control pulleys are very well represented, with clear parts and PE. I really like these.
I was worried about the decalling on the wheels (the red and blue circles are decals). I thought these wouldn’t look that good, but in the absence of a circle cutter for masking (I really must invest in one of these - any recommendations?) I went with the decals and was pleasantly surprised how well the came out. The one negative on the decals was I had a slight ghosting of a white surround from the printing being slightly out of register - surprised from a new Eduard kit. Particularly noticeable on the large wing roundels on a dark backdrop. Annoying, but I think I overcame it with some touching up with my breath held!
The telescopic sight is brass tubing, and I glazed the ends with ‘Glue n’ Glaze’ so you can even look through it with a little imagination!
The resin exhausts are exquisite!
‘Just’ the top wing attachment (my nemesis) and rigging and some other detailing to go. I seem to have lost the square windshield. I’ll keep looking, but may have to replace it with the (wrong) rounded one. I’ve also lost the Vickers gunsight ???
Thanks again,
Guy
(https://i.postimg.cc/gJfSmnXp/2-DEF24-A2-FFC7-4244-ABC0-FAE6-D10-B3812.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G8xJj3xg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJWrTpWx/031-F8-DEE-6-C08-459-C-A2-BC-9-A4-A01-F59007.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YL2NDcXr)
(https://i.postimg.cc/PxL3gmqK/86-FD73-F7-F0-D2-4-C9-C-B2-C9-E4668370-F3-FE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LYp3fgLZ)
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I’ve been fiddling with the Holt Flares.. tiny, about 3mm long. I’ve painted them black now, but I wish I’d painted the body of the flare then wrapped the unpainted PE around it ::)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tRvP1L21/B656769-B-3562-4-A63-8-D16-1-FC139-E33282.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6TRTg1sw)
Just out of interest, I’ve found this ‘wonder glue’! It’s a super glue gel that has fast grip but has a bit of give too while drying. It’s in a dispenser than doesn’t gunge up. It’s transforned my modelling!
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXBky2pD/F90-E4285-8-D14-4140-B353-9058-F649-B3-A2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGGj2C3n)
Brilliant stuff!
Guy
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Nice and clean Guy, keep up the good work.
Ryan
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Guy,
Reference your request for recommendations on a circle cutter I have had good luck with the Olfa brand Model CMP-1, cuts great circles in decals and masking tape from 5mm radius to a full 3 inches. Inexpensive and I've used it for years.
https://www.amazon.ca/Olfa-9911-Compass-Circle-Cutter/dp/B000BK7NWC
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks Ryan,
And thanks Lance.. will get one of those.
Guy
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Guy,
A fellow in my Model Club has this one and it's a beautiful tool, however a bit pricey for my budget. I've tried it at a club meeting and it's most impressive, worth looking at perhaps.......
https://www.ebay.com/p/Dspiae-Mt-c-Stepless-Adjustment-Circular-Cutter-Craft-Tools-Toy-Hex-Wrench/19012541512
Cheers,
Lance
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Ah you’re tempting me now Lance!
Guy
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That is a neat tool.
Ryan
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Oops, done already? That is a speed build!
For the Holt flares there is a problem, the size of the manual do not match the PE holders, So I used the size according to the PE. And PE mount should grab around the ring ...
The paint looks a bit bright for a night fighter, but here the pictures may be misleading. And below the serial number the PC10 was not overpainted, so there should be different greens.
But anyway, it is a nice model and its yours, so my comments are hints for the next builders.
Cheers,
Frank