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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Completed models => Topic started by: Epeeman on October 29, 2012, 06:07:42 AM

Title: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Epeeman on October 29, 2012, 06:07:42 AM
All,

Just completed Roden's 32nd scale SSW DIII.   A demanding build but an enjoyable project nonetheless.   Fit in some areas is very poor (particularly getting the lower wing on) but with effort  all eventually goes together nicely.   The biggest problem I encountered was getting the rib tape cut fine enough without breaking apart as soon as they touched the water.   I started the wing undersides first so the lozenge fabric decals do not look so good here as I ended up cutting rib tapes much thicker than they should have been just so I could get them on in one piece.   The good news is that by the time I got to upper sides, I developed a knack of getting them cut fine without breaking.

Some basic detailing to engine (ignition leads and trimming inside of cowling so engine turns freely); cockpit (cables and wiring)  and altering the seat (fitting Eduard PE seat belts) as well as adding a cushion made from 'milliput'; made up bulkhead fitted behind pilot's seat;  opened up the fuselage hand holds and step.  Also, my first attempt at making turnbuckles from twisted 5 amp fuse wire.

I ended up painting the 'lozenge' onto the interplane struts as try as I might, could not get them to wrap around the struts.

I'm not pretending my model is perfect,  but overall I am happy with the result.

Best regards

Dave

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Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: coyotemagic on October 29, 2012, 06:46:04 AM
She's stunning, Dave.  I love the wood grain.  This is my favorite SSW scheme.  Brilliant work all 'round mate!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: xmald on October 29, 2012, 06:56:18 AM
 I must admit I love your SSW. One of the most interesting planes of WWI in my opinion. Your wood grain effect is outstanding! Can post some photos of the cockpit area>?
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Des on October 29, 2012, 07:01:34 AM
A beautiful looking model Dave, the wood finish is excellent and your lozenge decal application is flawless, very well done.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: pepperman42 on October 29, 2012, 08:11:23 AM
Very nice work on a challenging project. She is very sharp. As others have said the wood effect is perfect!!

Steve
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 29, 2012, 08:34:51 AM
Superb! Knowing the frustration I encounter with Roden kits and in particular, their decals, I tip my hat to you for executing such a great looking model. Seeing your model almost makes me want to try my hand at one too . . .

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: mgunns on October 30, 2012, 02:45:45 AM
Looks mighty to fine to me.   Painting the lozenge on the struts is very convincing and looks better than wrinkled decal.  It is a challenging build, but yours is outstanding.  As has been mentioned, love the wood grain.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Epeeman on October 30, 2012, 07:37:01 AM
Many thanks for your kind comments, gentleman -

Chris - I know what you mean about Roden kits - with the exception of N.28, these are always fiddly (usually getting interior detail all in and closed up) so you have to persevere with the build.   Towards the end of the build, they always come together nicely though and look good when finally completed.   I agree the decals are the not the best feature - very thin and brittle - so careful application is always required.

My main gripe though with roden kits is cost - at nearly 50 quid (here in UK) for a 32nd scale they are becoming overpriced.   Luckily, been able to get hold several of these on sale (£30) a much better price.   I now have the Spad VII (Lafayette) and Fokker DVI left for future builds.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Whiteknuckles on October 30, 2012, 11:18:26 AM
Lovely work Dave, you've produced a mighty fine fine model there.
I'll echo what those above have said regarding the fuse woodwork - lovely colour and depth.

Andrew
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: lcarroll on October 30, 2012, 12:33:00 PM
Dave,
  Jumping in late, have to comment on the magnificent dark "tone" you've created on the fuselage wood; simply beautiful. Nicely done all round!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: KrzysiekK on October 30, 2012, 07:54:36 PM
Wood grain is really impresive! Is good to do some closer photos.
regards

K
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Adam on October 30, 2012, 08:24:25 PM
Wood work looks fantastic.
So I think you very braves using decals in so big surface.
In my Fokker Dr.1 I was afraid to use decals in such big model so I used masks.
Quality, in my opinion, of this model is rather good. It is my first in this big scale model,  I made a lot of Rodens models in 72 scale and they was rather average quality, but they are available and popular in Poland .

Adam.

Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Epeeman on October 31, 2012, 09:33:37 AM
Thanks again, gents - appreciated.

K - I would like to try to get some close ups, but to be honest, I really don't know how to do this with my basic camera - close up shots tend to come out blurry.

Adam - please don't get me wrong about Roden - despite the flaws, on the whole, good kits which need a bit of effort to get the best out of them.   I just find they are becoming a bit on the pricey side of things.

All - I'm pleased everybody likes the wood effect - this was done by chance/accident if honest (combination of artist oils burnt Sienna and burnt umber) but came out really well so will use this combination again where a darker wood tone is required.

Best regards

Dave

Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: kornbeef on October 31, 2012, 05:29:49 PM
Lovely work indeed yes.

On the price in the UK issue I agree totally, actually found it much cheaper to buy from Jadar in Poland the last time I bought Roden but that was a while ago.. I was buying a batch of P of P etch at the time and the kits just...well you know  :P

But still causes head scratching how getting something from over the water is cheaper than here at home???


Keith
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Adam on October 31, 2012, 05:49:36 PM
I thing, that quality and price Rodens models in Poland  for me is good.
Jadar is abut half hour traveling from my home and closer is another shop Martola ( maybe you know this shop too), so I don't pay for delivery.  ;D

Adam.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: KrzysiekK on October 31, 2012, 10:47:35 PM
Adam I do the same ;D Just passing  Martola my walet is lighter..
regards
D
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Epeeman on November 02, 2012, 07:17:55 AM
Lovely work indeed yes.

On the price in the UK issue I agree totally, actually found it much cheaper to buy from Jadar in Poland the last time I bought Roden but that was a while ago.. I was buying a batch of P of P etch at the time and the kits just...well you know  :P

But still causes head scratching how getting something from over the water is cheaper than here at home???


Keith

Thanks, Keith -

Just in case you are not aware - ModelZone are knocking out the 32nd scale Roden's for £30 (on the older range) and are offering the Nieuport 24 biz for 39.99 (still a bit pricey) in their sale.   This SSW DIII I found from a supplier on the web ('Oxion plastic') for 33 quid with a very reasonable £1.50 postage.  I don't know where you live in the UK, but MZ at Lakeside, Essex still have the N28 for 30 quid. 

Luckily, I've got the Fokker DVI and Spad VII that I got from the MZ sale so will keep me going for a bit.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: kornbeef on November 02, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
Dave I'm in Tonbridge..ish.

MZ on the web, nice thanks for the heads up, I want another DIII, I dream of WNW releasing one but hey theres so many unmoddelled options for them to choose from I can't realistically seeing it happening.  Rodens Albies scrub up well with a bit of TLC...  ;)

Keith
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Graham t on February 04, 2013, 07:53:48 AM
Just found this after looking to see what others had done with this kit as its one I just picked up.  Very nice and makes we meant to start mine.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Epeeman on February 04, 2013, 08:49:46 AM
Thanks, Graham -

Not a bad kit overall but watch out for a few areas of difficult fit - especially bad is the lower wing to fuselage join.   I found I needed to do lots of trimming, filing and cutting to get a reasonable fit here.

Good luck on your build and look forward to seeing how you get on, mate.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Graham t on February 04, 2013, 06:51:46 PM
Thanks for the tips.  By the way, your monica, did you used to fence?  I wielded a foil in my younger days (3rd in the Herts under 14 foil, 1973!  :)).
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: ermeio on February 05, 2013, 12:13:08 AM
A very nice model
The wood effect on the fuselage is superb and the golden snake adds something to catch our eyesight...
As for the prices in the UK, it's the market that makes the prices :-)
Sometimes Italeri are cheaper in France and Germany than in Italy...
best regards
er me
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Epeeman on February 05, 2013, 01:01:50 AM
Thanks, gents -

Graham - yes, I do fence - epee is my blade of choice hence my my forum name!

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on February 06, 2013, 05:00:54 PM
very nice ssw seeing makes me want to bust mine out and finish it.

oh and p.s. modelua has the best prices on 1/32 roden kits

http://modelsua.com/
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Dal Gavan on February 07, 2013, 04:08:07 PM
Dave, apparently this is a tricky kit to put together, but you've done a great job, mate. I'll join in the praise for the wood finish, as well. 

Beautiful work.

Dal.

Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: GAJouette on February 08, 2013, 01:30:53 PM
Well I'll be a monkeys uncle how in the heck did I miss the stubby beauty? Outstanding work Dave, love that woodwork my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Roden 1/32 Siemens Shuckert DIII
Post by: Epeeman on February 09, 2013, 01:53:19 AM
Albatros, Dale & Gregory -

Thanking you kindly, gentleman!

Dale - Yes, this is on of Roden's tougher builds (but not impossible) but I always expect them to be 'fiddly' even before I start a Roden kit.   The best one (so far) in this scale has been the Neiuport 28 - a really, simple uncomplicated and fairly straightforward build.

Regards

Dave