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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Softscience on January 03, 2018, 12:17:45 PM
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Hi all,
This is my first WIP here, and only my second bi (or tri) plane, so bear with me.
I'm building the model essentially out of box (plus a few household bits). The model will be either Kurt Wolff or Werner Voss' mount.
I haven't decided yet.
I began with the cockpit, where I took some artistic license with color.
(https://s20.postimg.org/eifk8c571/IMG_20180101_175548721_HDR.jpg)
Here it is finished up, save for the central instrument bar. The harnesses are wine bottle foil painted black and with the hardware bits scratched off to the metallic layer.
(https://s20.postimg.org/fkpqqvgal/IMG_20180101_210636823_HDR.jpg)
More to come.
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You're off to a great start with this build, what you have done so far looks very good, looking forward to following along.
Des.
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Nice start so far. It'll be interesting to compare builds as I'm making Eduard's Dr.1 atm in the same scale.
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Looking excellent so far!
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Very nice start, looking forward to your progress.
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Nicely done interior! I really like the way you did the metal seat belt harness fittings. Looking forward to your next update.
RAGIII
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Thanks for the comments, guys.
Not much progress since last update, but I'm getting ready to prefit various struts. I noticed there are no locating holes for the fore-struts on the landing gear. I don't remember now if they were there and I obliterated them during sanding, or what.
To anybody who has the kit, can you take a photo of the fuselage bottom so I can see where I should drill holes for the struts?
(https://s20.postimg.org/yl5f1rskt/IMG_20180107_164611367_HDR.jpg)
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Are you doing the Eduard kit? I have a couple and can check for you later this evening.
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The slots are in the pe. Part pe21. At least that’s what’s in my unbuilt one...
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The slots are in the pe. Part pe21. At least that’s what’s in my unbuilt one...
This is a weekend edition, so no PE.
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Are you doing the Eduard kit? I have a couple and can check for you later this evening.
It is the Eduard kit, and thank you, your help would be appreciated.
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Great work on the interieur. The wood looks nice,too.
Bye,
Manni
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Are you doing the Eduard kit? I have a couple and can check for you later this evening.
It is the Eduard kit, and thank you, your help would be appreciated.
I’ll have a check too seeing I’m building the same kit
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Are you doing the Eduard kit? I have a couple and can check for you later this evening.
It is the Eduard kit, and thank you, your help would be appreciated.
I’ll have a check too seeing I’m building the same kit
And the answer is no pre marked holes for the U/C
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Apologies for the late response, but yes, I have the same findings! No holes, but PE does have spots for it to mount.
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How did I miss this? Good to see another of these Dr 1's being built: I wiill be following more closely in future.
Stephen.
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Thanks for the responses, all.
Would the ribs tapes on the wings be prominently visible on a painted airframe? I'm wondering if that shaded and highlighted look which seems to work so nicely to simulate CDL would be appropriate for this?
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To anybody who has the kit, can you take a photo of the fuselage bottom so I can see where I should drill holes for the struts?
Sorry for the late answer!
For the backward struts there is a small ribbing on the side of the fuselage, just in front of the spar of the lower wing. See your manual, or better see the manual of the Profipack. You can download it here:
https://www.eduard.com/store/out/media/8161.pdf
There you will also see the position of the front struts in the PE.
Hope it helps,
Frank
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Thanks for the responses, all.
Would the ribs tapes on the wings be prominently visible on a painted airframe? I'm wondering if that shaded and highlighted look which seems to work so nicely to simulate CDL would be appropriate for this?
Thats a very loaded question. But here are some links to images of a F1 I think Voss's in both links.
http://jasta11.co.uk/page30.htm
http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008/06/19/werner-voss-hero-or-super-hero/
As you can see they are not really very prominent, but they are there and you do notice the ribs/tapes that have been overpainted
Sorry probably didn't help.
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Thanks for the links, guys.
And Ray, that actually helped a great deal.
But why do you say it's a loaded question? Because of the lack of consensus regarding the color of Voss' plane?
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But why do you say it's a loaded question? Because of the lack of consensus regarding the color of Voss' plane?
Nothing as fun or controversial as that. I mean everyone knows the cowl was green with yellow polka dots. No wait is it yellow with green and oh yes silver blue airframe all over, or was that cdl and green streaks .. joking I actually saw a diorama at a show that had Voss’s mechanic painting a cowl yellow beside the F1 but the green cowl mounted on the aircraft.
No it’s the whole ribs, rib tapes impression, shading etc. Done well the effect looks wonderfull, overdone and well It can wreck all the work. But the effect looks so good.
Ray
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Nothing as fun or controversial as that. I mean everyone knows the cowl was green with yellow polka dots. No wait is it yellow with green and oh yes silver blue airframe all over, or was that cdl and green streaks .. joking I actually saw a diorama at a show that had Voss’s mechanic painting a cowl yellow beside the F1 but the green cowl mounted on the aircraft.
No it’s the whole ribs, rib tapes impression, shading etc. Done well the effect looks wonderfull, overdone and well It can wreck all the work. But the effect looks so good.
Ray
Lol - I'm going with silvery blue with chrome yellow streaking and green cowl ;D
And agree about the tapes trick - I've seen some modelers pull it off beautifully - others not so much. I might forgo it, what with less being more, and all that.
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Coming along nicely. I am looking forward to your interpretation of the scheme!
RAGIII
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The mounting holes: https://photos.app.goo.gl/VScmjyFSF2PlgofP2
On my Dr.1s I used a mixed oil colors over a light blue acrylic base for the streaking. You can mix three different shades of Fokker streaky green and apply them independently with a medium stiff brush, dragging for streaks much like the originals were done.
Here is a photo to illustrate. https://photos.app.goo.gl/5NcqdH9cU5SkgoOp1
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The mounting holes: https://photos.app.goo.gl/VScmjyFSF2PlgofP2
On my Dr.1s I used a mixed oil colors over a light blue acrylic base for the streaking. You can mix three different shades of Fokker streaky green and apply them independently with a medium stiff brush, dragging for streaks much like the originals were done.
Here is a photo to illustrate. https://photos.app.goo.gl/5NcqdH9cU5SkgoOp1
Thank you.
And I love how the streaking on your model falls into the yellow end of the spectrum. That looks just lovely! Is it particular to that machine, or is there some evidence for the colors being more of that olive yellow shade? I hope its the latter because I'd love for my model to look like that.
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Finally some progress to report on. I installed the interplane struts to the middle wing and the cabane to the upper. The wings are just test fit for now, in order to line everything up.
Looks okay, I think.
I also got those little gaspatch turnbuckles. You can see the two in between the cabane struts.
The bottom wing fits very poorly to the fuselage, and some post paint filling will be necessary. Fun!
(https://s20.postimg.org/lyqi2cxgd/IMG_20180114_223012057_HDR.jpg)
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And we got basecoat!!!
(https://s20.postimg.org/nxhdp4519/IMG_20180115_224105407_HDR.jpg)
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Havent got as far as you but can confirm the bottom wing is a very poor fit. I’ve done a lot of sanding and there’s still a small gap on the starboard wing root. Head on though it looks square. :o
You’re doing a great job and I’ll have to find those Gaspatch turnbuckles in my stash. I was hoping to get away with not fitting them but you’ve thrown the gauntlet down ;)
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Its turning into a fine lil fokker... I have the Dual Combo and an overtree's so storing this off for the day I build one.
Ray
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Thanks Ray and Henry.
My take on the streaking.
(https://s20.postimg.org/pywrzcct9/IMG_20180116_212633392_HDR.jpg)
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Very good streaking, looks great.
Manni
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Your streaking is nicely done. I am looking forward to the next update!
RAGIII
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Excellent work with the streaking.
Des.
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Thanks, guys.
I was thinking of adding some very faint streaks of yellow ocher oil paint to tie everything together.
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Getting ready for decals now. The stack of wings is just test fit. I toned down the green with a very misty spray of light blue, and added the white fields for the crosses.
(https://s20.postimg.org/8gfz2lbfh/IMG_20180117_214925106_HDR.jpg)
A good brew and a good model. Life is good sometimes.
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Looking great! You are getting near the finish line on this one.
RAGIII
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Its getting close, will the cowl be green or yellow?
Ray
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Given half a chance to paint something a bright color, I'll always take it. :)
There is already enough green and gray on my display shelves. Its one reason I took the plunge into WW I types.
This is why Godwin Brumowski's red D.III with yellow sworls is on my radar :)
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Given half a chance to paint something a bright color, I'll always take it. :)
There is already enough green and gray on my display shelves. Its one reason I took the plunge into WW I types.
This is why Godwin Brumowski's red D.III with yellow sworls is on my radar :)
you mean this guy...
http://www.worldnavalships.com/aircraft_prints.php?Aircraft=Albatros_D.III
ray
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Given half a chance to paint something a bright color, I'll always take it. :)
There is already enough green and gray on my display shelves. Its one reason I took the plunge into WW I types.
This is why Godwin Brumowski's red D.III with yellow sworls is on my radar :)
you mean this guy...
http://www.worldnavalships.com/aircraft_prints.php?Aircraft=Albatros_D.III
ray
That's the one. I just have to figure out how to make those little sworls in scale. I have to look at fine marker pens at the art store.
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If I ever get to build a Fokker with streaking will you paint mine for me? This is really turning into a little beauty - excellent modelling.
Stephen.
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If I ever get to build a Fokker with streaking will you paint mine for me? This is really turning into a little beauty - excellent modelling.
Stephen.
Thanks!
But I'm afraid I might have overdone it with the washes and filters. The grooves on either side of the wingtapes have gotten a bit too dark and given the wings a zebra stripe appearance. It wasn't as apparent until after the flat coat went on, so now the color is sealed in there. Damn!
(https://s20.postimg.org/y7pg3i1nx/IMG_20180121_201439540_HDR.jpg)
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I think your streaking is fine. No,way to know now what they were actually like, and they varied from plane to plane since they were done by different people at the factory with a big paint brush.
My impression, done with oils:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/3xxtleqYZXjLGVYq2
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I think it looks awesome!
RAGIII
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Thanks. I guess its not so bad.
I'm almost ready to mount the top wing. Here is the upper decking almost done. I just need to add the flare rack, and attach the rigging lines to the fuselage. The lines on the landing gear are one. I really like how they look with those turnbuckles.
(https://s20.postimg.org/dirvs5p2l/IMG_20180123_172304116_HDR.jpg)
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Excellent work. You're setting a very high benchmark.
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I like how the rigging looks on the gear with those turnbuckles also! Nicely done and look in scale.
RAGIII
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Thanks, guys.
The upper wing went on tonight. It looks fine up front, but the rear cabanes did some sliding around after I applied glue - so there were some messy smears back there. I let the glue dry and buffed out as best as I could, then repainted. Its not 100% but you have to look pretty close to notice.
I had a really hard time with the aileron control wires just because it was hard to access the attachment points. Next time I will drill holes all the way through the wing.
I'm really pleased that my turnbuckles line up with the lines, correctly. They extra thread still needs to be clipped. That will be for another night. Doing this wore me out.
(https://s20.postimg.org/h5hg9mgkd/IMG_20180124_215503721_HDR.jpg)
in the home stretch now.
(https://s20.postimg.org/umeeshj65/IMG_20180124_215523110_HDR.jpg)
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Excellent results. The upper wing really looks awesome in place. I am liking this one more with each update!
RAGIII
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Thanks, Rick.
It's home stretch for the fokker. I have finished pretty much everything aft of the engine.
A bit more playing around with oils for some effects, and I need to fix the cross decal, which got damaged from excessive handing of the kit (I was tending to pick it up at that point).
(https://s20.postimg.org/oieidah1p/IMG_20180127_233745901_HDR.jpg)
(https://s20.postimg.org/iu87me4zh/IMG_20180127_233818436_HDR.jpg)
I'll admit, I'm a little wary about painting the laminated prop. But that is next, so stay tuned.
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and finished!
(https://s20.postimg.org/5qd9angdp/LRM_20180128_175821.jpg)
Pics here https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9257.msg168522#msg168522 (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9257.msg168522#msg168522)
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I have really enjoyed following your progress! More in the completed section later.
RAGIII
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Great result. Your streaking is excellent.
Actually all of the build is excellent.
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EXCELLENT!!!!!!
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That's a beauty, I cannot believe it is 1/48, the level of detail would make you think it is 1/32. :D
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Thanks, to all of you for the kind comments, and the support along the way. Y'all really made the build possible.
This place is fast becoming my favorite modeling forum.
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Excellent model in every way.
Stephen.
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Not bad at all, for your second! That streaking is excellent.