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Title: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: stefanbuss on September 24, 2012, 04:53:02 PM
Friends,

I have no problem in making turnbuckles, using the proven method of brass-rods cut to size, combined with fishing-line for the cables.

But: What is a useable way of representing the splicing on the cables? Using the same brass-rod (that is already of tiny 0,5mm diameter) seems to be oversize. The stuff that Bertl used on his Albatros and Pfalz builds looks good but is waaay to expensive for me.

What is your method?

Regards,
Stefan
Title: Re: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: kornbeef on September 25, 2012, 03:12:48 PM
Stefan, Hi.

I've experimented using nothing other than the line ( I use Nylon mending thread) and Thin Cyano. Looping the cable through an eyelet spinnin it tight and applying Cyano to the twisted section while under tension. then again when set coat it again.
Yes it's fiddly, yes theres a high fail rate but I like the results when it works. (no spoilt brass tube either is a minor bonus.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/RUMPLER/ARUM53.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/RUMPLER/ARUM58.jpg)
Not the clearest of shots unfortunately. Paint over them to represent the fabric wrap often seen .

I've actually taken to doing complete cable assemblies off the aircraft and adjusting & fixing them later. This however comes unstuck when the mounting point is hard to access.

Hope this helps

Keith
Title: Re: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: coyotemagic on September 25, 2012, 04:13:30 PM
Wow, Keith!  That is truly stunning.  Excellent cable connections, but mainly a brilliant model.  What kit is that?
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: uncletony on September 25, 2012, 07:58:03 PM
Brilliant Rumpler, Keith. The top photo looks 100% real.  As in "why is he showing us a picture of an actual plane?"
Title: Re: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: kornbeef on September 26, 2012, 03:05:32 AM
Hi guys thanks, Bud It's WNW's early Rumpler, a really lovely kit.
Title: Re: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: Dal Gavan on October 06, 2012, 05:06:39 PM
Keith, thanks for showing us your method of doing the rigging eyes.  I've been trying to work out how to do what you've done so well- and I've redone all the rigging on my build. 

Can we persuade you to put up a few more photo's of your Rumpler, please?

Dal.
Title: Re: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: uncletony on October 06, 2012, 10:29:40 PM
Keith, thanks for showing us your method of doing the rigging eyes.  I've been trying to work out how to do what you've done so well- and I've redone all the rigging on my build. 

Can we persuade you to put up a few more photo's of your Rumpler, please?

Dal.

+1, drool.
Title: Re: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 07, 2012, 01:49:10 AM
Keith, thanks for showing us your method of doing the rigging eyes.  I've been trying to work out how to do what you've done so well- and I've redone all the rigging on my build. 

Can we persuade you to put up a few more photo's of your Rumpler, please?

Dal.

+2, drool.  :)
Title: Re: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: kornbeef on October 08, 2012, 12:35:22 AM
okies, I'll post a few in the completed section

K
Title: Re: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: petrov27 on October 08, 2012, 07:06:06 AM
The stuff that Bertl used on his Albatros and Pfalz builds looks good but is waaay to expensive for me.


Just curious - what does Bertl use? I went through the excellent worn out Pfalz build thread but did not find where he named what he used...

Thanks!
Title: Re: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 08, 2012, 11:30:12 PM
Bertl,
 Uses the brass tube and handmade eyelet method - he will need to confirm this, of course  ;)

BVB
Title: Re: Turnbuckles: Advice needed
Post by: petrov27 on October 09, 2012, 10:52:58 AM
Bertl,
 Uses the brass tube and handmade eyelet method - he will need to confirm this, of course  ;)

Yep, I was thinking of the way he closes off the wire loop that fastens the running wire to the buckle - the red/brown bit in the pic below. I was thinking maybe some sort of micro shrink tube? I like how it is a smaller diameter than the brass tube (seems more like real)

(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj150/petrov27/detail_shot.jpg)