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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: TobyCoulson on February 06, 2017, 02:35:48 AM
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I've been having a clear out of all of my 1/72 kits and most will go for sale but I have three left in this scale before I concentrate on 1/48 and 1/32 for WW1 subjects(and possibly some between wars planes. I have a Stearman and a Fury lined up sometime in the future). I had a choice of either the Airfix new tool Eindecker or their rather lovely BE2C however I have opted for the J.1 as apart from WNW 1/32 rendition I can't find one in 1/48 so this will be the only chance I have to build one.....................................................until I have a go at the WNW version in my stash.
There's lots of PE but I shall only be using some of them and the air surface control horns I will scratch build as I reckon they'll be a lot sturdier than the PE offerings.
Anyway here are the bits and pieces and assorted gubbins and bumf.
(https://s19.postimg.org/u24oi6leb/IMG_7451.jpg)
(https://s19.postimg.org/cdcxqk9n7/IMG_7450.jpg)
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Nice choice and good looking kit (will look good in lozenge). Looking forward to your progress.
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Nice choice and good looking kit (will look good in lozenge). Looking forward to your progress.
Only the rear fuselage is lozenged up. The upper wings are RLM71. I look forward to my progress too :)
I'm really enjoying my conversion from Spitfires, bf109s, P47s and the like to biplanes. Far more rewarding to build and well worth the effort. I'll still do the occasional "simple" build just for old times sake though.
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Hi Toby,
it's going to be an interesting build and I'll follow. You are right, in 1/48 it is hard to get a kit of the J. I. There's just the Lone Star vacukit, long o.o.p. and although beautifully done, it requires lots of work. It is far from WNW or Eduard standards of course.
Borsos
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Great to see that you are building in God's Own Scale, and an unusual subject too. Looking forward to seeing this one progress - even if it is only half as good as your Fokker D VII it will be an excellent model.
Stephen.
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A great subject Toby,I'm looking forward to seeing this build.
Des.
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Nice choice. I am looking forward to following along.
RAGIII
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Started on cockpit and engine.
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The engine looks a lot harsher under flash than it does under normal lighting
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Very nice start Toby!
RAGIII
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This really is a great little kit. I picked one up as soon as it was rereleased and am looking forward to it. In the meantime I'll be watching this to see if there are any gotchas!
Ian
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Very good start on the engine - lots of nice detail.
Stephen.
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Thanks all. I had installed the engine and cockpit and was about to close up the fuselage when I realised I'd forgotten to attach the water pipes. Looking at the diagram and the lower long pipe I'm not convinced there's enough of a vertical rise in it to attach to the wing mounted radiator. Only time will tell. Also I made a bit of a hash at fixing the rear s/belts but hopefully it won't be too visible once inside the fuselage. PE especially in this scale has never been my strong point. ::)
One thing of note although it won't be visible is that the rear horizontal bar should marry up to holes in the cockpit wall. It doesn't so if building this kit I'd suggest you shorten the central bar to get the horizontal one to line up
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I think I'm progressing too fast ;D
The anomaly between the rear horizontal bar and where it's supposed to go into the fuselage can be seen here. I'm not overly fussed about this as it can't be seen but I'm sure the more fastidious will address this when they come to build it.
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More painting and decalling has taken place. Barely time to go to the pub. I shall rectify that though :)
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I shall soon return to a larger scale and take more time but this is a fun little build.
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This is coming together beautifully Toby, you did a great job with the interior work and the engine and the wing painting looks great.
Des.
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Beautiful work, Toby! Looks as though the decals settled nicely over the corrugations.
Cheers,
Bud
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Very nice model, Toby
You do a great job.
Only point I have it that IMHO the exhaust is a bit too red, but that could be caued by the camera.
Cheers,
Manni
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Very nice model, Toby
You do a great job.
Only point I have it that IMHO the exhaust is a bit too red, but that could be caued by the camera.
Cheers,
Manni
Thanks Manni, Bud and Des
The recommended colour is russet and in real life it's not as red as it appears. I may tone it done with some weathering though.
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Looks sweet, Toby. Take your time on the rather confusing (to me) wing attachments. I messed mine up and ended up scratching a few struts and using a foam-board jig to help with alignment.
Neat build!
Dan
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Looks sweet, Toby. Take your time on the rather confusing (to me) wing attachments. I messed mine up and ended up scratching a few struts and using a foam-board jig to help with alignment.
Neat build!
Dan
Thanks Dan.
I have been looking long and hard at that aspect of the build and have yet to formalise a definitive plan. As my Dad told me time spent in reconnaissance is seldom wasted and he should know as he spent most of the war flying around at night in a PBY5 ;D
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Beautiful work, Toby! Looks as though the decals settled nicely over the corrugations.
Cheers,
Bud
As always 100% agreement with my Amigo!
RAGIII
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Decals now on the fuselage. There are a lot of other stencils included but no where on the instructions as where to put them. Usually Eduard are fairly good in this respect. Research is now needed to find out where they should go. I took one of the water pipes off as it's going to need fettling for it to fit the wing radiator again another unusual error from Eduard.
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Looking really sweet with the decals applied, a very nice model in the making.
Des.
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Beautiful work Toby.
It's impressive to see how big is the engine with respect to the pilot seat!
Antonio
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Looking fantastic with the decals applied. I am looking forward to your progress!
RAGIII
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Great looking plane, she is coming along beautifully.
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Coming on very nicely. It should be a very impressive addition when finished!
Ian
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That looks very nice. The W20 was ugly in some ways but it also had a strange appeal - yours certainly will.
Stephen.
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Nice progress! The decals look great!
Steve
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Thanks all. Lower wing now attached with the struts. This is not the easiest of tasks and I've got one slightly out of alignment but hopefully it won't affect the build. One thing I've noticed is that a lot of the PE stuff is also available in plastic and I have been using those where I can.
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I have also fitted the rear seat M/G mounting ring.
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You are continuing to make excellent progress Toby.
Des.
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Toby, Nice work on the wing attachment! As for a misaligned strut, it would affect the rest only if the wing is out of alignment.
RAGIII
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I have to say I am very impressed by the Vertigo rigging jigs I've got. I can heartily recommend them.
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Now the head scratching starts :)
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Looks like you have mounting the upper wing under control!
RAGIII
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It's always good to have a helping hand with these tricky operations, looking really good.
Des.
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Looks like you have mounting the upper wing under control!
RAGIII
I have a feeling all control will vanish when I try fitting the struts. The internal ones cross over each other. I'm not looking forward to fitting the small ones over the cockpit at all
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It's always good to have a helping hand with these tricky operations, looking really good.
Des.
It's going to be a character building experience I think ;D
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Toby,
Great progress and looking very nice. A quick question on the Jig, I've looked at them on-line and they offer an "Upgrade Kit". Does yours as illustrated here have that feature? Can you advise what the kit provides as an upgraded capability? My AeroClub version is great but restricted in size so I'm thinking of getting one like yours for the larger subjects in the 1:32 range.
Cheers,
Lance
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Toby,
Great progress and looking very nice. A quick question on the Jig, I've looked at them on-line and they offer an "Upgrade Kit". Does yours as illustrated here have that feature? Can you advise what the kit provides as an upgraded capability? My AeroClub version is great but restricted in size so I'm thinking of getting one like yours for the larger subjects in the 1:32 range.
Cheers,
Lance
Thanks Lance. I think the upgrade is a support for the nose although I can't confirm as the website to Vertigo Miniatures seems to be down at the moment. I have two jigs one for 1/72,1/48 and another for 1/32,1/24 and have used them successfully on all scales apart from 1/24. It needs a bit of tweaking for very small 1/72 kits in so much that the wing supports have to be reversed to move in to hold shorter wings but that is a two minute job.
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Now for the tricky bit. I have drilled out all the holes to slightly oversize so they can accommodate the struts coming in from different angles. I've also attached the small cockpit struts and on initial marrying up they seem to be very close but we all know that can change :-\
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I've labelled all of them so I can keep track as I attach them to the top wing and hopefully then lower it onto the bottom wing.
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Having said that looking at the WNW kit instructions they seem to favour attaching them onto the bottom wing first.
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We shall see. I need to go and lie down for a while though before I start. :o
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Keeping my fingers crossed, Toby. Great progress so far!
Cheers
Ondra
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It seems to me that you are extremely well organised - so much so that I am sure that things will go better than you may dare to hope. I had similar feelings when I put the struts on some of my early pushers and again when I built the Hansa-Brandenburg CC: and the same sense of relief when I had finished! Best of luck with this next stage.
Stephen.
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Great work Toby, I look forward to seeing that wing in place!
Antonio
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Great work Toby, I look forward to seeing that wing in place!
Antonio
So do I ;)
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I am sure you will sort all of those struts out!
RAGIII
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This is not going well so I've decided to let the inner struts set to the top wing and then try and force them into place.
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The one thing I noticed about that jig is there doesn't appear to be anything holding the top wing, or the model, in place, just a "rest" for it. My usual method with the Aeroclub jig is to secure the wings in the jig then fit the struts by slightly bending them. With the entire model secure I can turn it upside down, or to whatever angle I need to help me see it more clearly.
Could you secure the model and wing with rubber bands then fit the struts to both wings at the same time....locate one end, then bend very slightly to locate the other?
Ian
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The one thing I noticed about that jig is there doesn't appear to be anything holding the top wing, or the model, in place, just a "rest" for it. My usual method with the Aeroclub jig is to secure the wings in the jig then fit the struts by slightly bending them. With the entire model secure I can turn it upside down, or to whatever angle I need to help me see it more clearly.
Could you secure the model and wing with rubber bands then fit the struts to both wings at the same time....locate one end, then bend very slightly to locate the other?
Ian
Ian, I had put rubber bands to hold the wings down but unfortunately something far far worse has happened. I got up to answer the phone and caught the whole kit and caboodle with my arm, sending it to the floor where I managed to tread on it!! :'(
This to say the least is very annoying as I was starting to make progress as some struts were actually in place and everything was coming together quite nicely.
It is now resting in the bin which is a shame but the damage was too severe to even contemplate attempting to rebuild it. Some things are just not meant to be >:(
I guess I should be thankful the kit came off the jig before my foot came in contact otherwise that would be toast as well.
Time to sit down and ponder what next.
Isn't life fun ::)
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Toby,
I am truly sorry to hear of your mishap with this project, it was looking very nice and you must be frustrated to say the least. I've had my share of clumsy and really stupid stunts at the work bench however, to date, Lady Luck has somehow deemed to get engaged and save the day. Take a break, think positive, and I hope you have another project on the move real soon!
Cheers,
Lance
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Toby,
A real shame that your Junkers met such an end! I have had similar crashes with my Roden SPAD and Roden SE5a to name just 2. I had a few beers and went on to the next project. I hope you move onward and upward soon!
RAGIII
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... Sorry about that one, Toby... I'm sure it has happened to us all.. But the next one will be superb! Regards, Marc.
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Very sorry to hear of your misfortune with this model, hopefully you will put it behind you and move on.
Des.
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Sorry to hear about the unceremonious end of you Junkers :'(, she was looking quite good. Look forward to your next effort.
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Commiserations Toby,
I think we've all been there. I certainly have ::)
Guy
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R.I.B. (Rest in Bin)... always a bad experience. As Guy said, we've all been there.
Best wishes for the next project
Borsos
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Ah, definitely an "oops" moment...so sorry to hear that!
Onwards and upwards, these things happen..........I'm looking forward to the next one.
Ian
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Thanks all. I am now over it. I've just started a 1/72 Meteor mk4. After that is a 1/48 Boeing Stearman Kaydet and then I'll be back here with a proper plane should be early May. Obviously I'll keep an eye on what's going on here in the meantime. Happy gluing ;D
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Oh, Toby!
That is so sad. It was such a good build model.
Manni
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Damn. It was looking beautiful too. So sorry to hear about this.
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Thanks all. I am now over it. I've just started a 1/72 Meteor mk4. After that is a 1/48 Boeing Stearman Kaydet and then I'll be back here with a proper plane should be early May. Obviously I'll keep an eye on what's going on here in the meantime. Happy gluing ;D
Not on topic but what scheme for the Meteor? I still have a 1/32nd HK Meteor Mk.4 to do in 56 Sq. Markings by Pheon.
RAGIII
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It'll be in the markings of 1 squadron at Tangmere in 1950
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Sorry to read your news Toby. That was a really good model and I was looking forward to seeing it completed. Unlike the SSW yours was clearly beyond recovery - what a shame. Never mind build something very different and then return to real subjects later!
Stephen.