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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: coyotemagic on August 04, 2016, 12:54:07 PM
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I started this one almost a year ago as a late entry in the Seaplane Group Build. I had already completed the Blue Max Macchi M.5 and the Copper State W.12 and since I kept pulling this one out of the stash as a reference for my 1/48 scale build, I finally gave in, kept it on the bench and started it.
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This is the scheme I'll be doing. Hate the man's politics, don't think much of him as a human being, but his plane is so cool. Two MGs and a spinner. What's not to like.
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Here's all I have to offer at the moment. Still much to be done, touch up, weathering and so on, but I wanted to post something before I got too far along.
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I noticed in some period photos that engine oil eroded painted surfaces, so I tried to recreate that by first applying wood grain, then covering the areas I wanted exposed with shaving cream, then painting over the wood with grey. When the paint was dry, I washed off the shaving cream, exposing the wood.
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And this is where I left it when the GB ended. I just resumed work on it yesterday and almost have the cockpit finished. Too dark to take any photos now, but I'll take some and post them tomorrow.
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud,
Excellent progress my old friend. I love her instrument panel! Thanks for the shaving cream tip too. Looking forward to seeing this new opus progress . Truly makes me wish I hadn't sold off this WNW kit.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Good grief Bud, the "Salt" method, Hairspray (my preferred trick) and now a shaving cream version??!! Very convincing regardless, and I like the effect. This Kit is very close to being "next on deck" here at Carroll's Stringbag Emporium, and I have the same decals ready to go as on yours. Originally I had planned on doing the W.29 in the "C" Motif as well, but I think I'll look at all the options and do one or the other in an alternative scheme.
In the mean time, I'll be following your progress with great interest.
Cheers,
Lance
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What you have achieved so far Bud is excellent, I am very impressed with your instrument panel.
Des.
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Very nice Bud,
very clean build and I like your weathering.
Seaplanes open a very interesting field of weatheing techiques because of the surfaces, that have been all the time exposed to the saltwater.
Manni
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Thanks for the encouragement, guys!
I look forward to seeing your W.12 and your W.29, Lance. I've got a Sierra Scale 1/48 vac W.29 that I plan on doing in Christiansen's markings, as well. The scheme is just too interesting to ignore, I suppose.
Manni, you're right. Weathering a seaplane is totally different from weathering a land based plane. The salt water and sea air bring a whole new set of challenges. I had a little practice, though, with this one:
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Cheers,
Bud
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That is some beautiful work. One question for you, which Aviattic Naval Hex decals are you using on this?
Thanks,
James
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Thank you, James. I'm using the printed fabric, clear, on the wings and elevator and the painted fabric on all horizontal stabilizer and the floats.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thank you, Bud. Now I know what to get for mine
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You're very welcome, James! I look forward to seeing yours.
Cheers,
Bud
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Not having built a model in 20 years and never building a WW I aircraft before, this might be the one to start with.
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Hey Bud, you've got a great build going on the W.12. As usual, your work is superlative. I'm looking forward to seeing this one finished.
Gabe
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Not having built a model in 20 years and never building a WW I aircraft before, this might be the one to start with.
Single bay, minimal rigging and a very easy and stable "undercarriage", so, yeah, it's an excellent first WWI kit.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hey Bud, you've got a great build going on the W.12. As usual, your work is superlative. I'm looking forward to seeing this one finished.
Gabe
Thanks, Gabe! I'm aiming to have it done before the symposium in Oakland, so.... ;)
Cheers,
Bud
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well Amigo you have made a beautiful Start with that awesome interior and Panel! The shaving cream technique is one I had forgotten. Thanks for reminding me of your weathering technique!
RAGIII
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looks great bud, i got one of these too from a while back and i plan on building her someday
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Very nice work on the cockpit, clever trick with shaving cream.
Giuseppe
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Nice start Bud and a nice tip on the shaving foam ;) Being bearded I have no use for it though so will have to look to getting some :D.
Lance - have you tried 'Marmite' or 'Vegemite' - as a mask that is - that works well too. Nice on toast too of course :)
Tug
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Nice start Bud and a nice tip on the shaving foam ;) Being bearded I have no use for it though so will have to look to getting some :D.
Lance - have you tried 'Marmite' or 'Vegemite' - as a mask that is - that works well too. Nice on toast too of course :)
Tug
Tug,
I have acquired a taste for many things from the UK over the years; nothing beats a cool pint of good brown Ale, I still drool every time I recall the Fish & Chips bought after a session in a Local in Derry many years back when it was wrapped in newspaper (is it still?), the "pasties" in Wales and I could go on and on, but Marmite makes me shudder, and I'll stick to hairspray and salt thanks! I never could understand what the attraction is but, like a good Single Malt Whiskey, it must be an acquired taste!
Cheers!
Lance
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I don't use shaving cream.i do old-school wet shaving with shaving soap in a mug with a brush and hot water then drag a german made merkur de razor. So I would have to buy shave cream. Lol
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I missed that until now. What a shame, because this is wonderful! Shaving cream is a very cool idea for achieving weathering effects, I'll have to try this out, too. Although I am not the biggest fan of sea planes, the more I look on this HB W. 12, the more I like it...
Best wishes
Borsos
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funny one justin, i just shave old style because i get a much closer shave at a fraction of the cost. compare the cartridge prices to even top of the line "feather" japanese double beveled d.e. razor blades and its a no brainer.shaving cost me virtually nothing now for better results.
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Thanks for all the kind comments and support (and alternative masking tips), my friends! This project was once again stalled, this time due to my own stupidity. I'm using the Aviattic Naval Hex decals and, as we all now know, they don't snuggle down over the float detail without the use of heat. Consequently, I used heat from a heat gun on low setting and managed to successfully apply the decal to one float, then moved on to the next whereupon, I buggered it beyond redemption by holding the gun still for too long. Here's the result. For those of you with a weak stomach, you may want to avert your eyes.
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I emailed Dave and copped to the fact that through my own idiocy, I rendered one of the float tops unusable and would he please sell me a replacement sprue. Gentleman that he is, he found one and sent it out to me from NZ. Just got it last week, so I'll be back on this one soon. Still figuring out the Grigorovich.
Cheers,
Bud
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Good grief Bud, I sure feel your pain! I've never used the "heat treatment" on decals for fear of the very same results, now I'm even less likely to do it! I've started mine however have shifted my attention to the Ni 17 I had commenced earlier, shouldn't be long before I get back on it again. Good on Dave and Wingnut Wings for saving your bacon, I'm impressed, and pleased for you! :)
Cheers,
Lance
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I've had success using a hair dryer on low setting and holding it about a foot away.
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Lance and Kreston, I think my problem is that I don't have a hair dryer and went with what I had on hand: That nasty heat gun, used for stripping paint and such. I'll be buying a hair dryer before I try this again. Yes, WNW customer service is the best.
Cheers,
Bud
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Oh my god ... Bud, you cannot show pics like these here ... there could be children around!
Borsos
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The decals did really snuggle down to the float :-X Glad WNW helped you out Amigo! Looking forward to seeing the replacement after you acquire a proper hair dryer! They do work well with Pheon and Aviattic decals 8)
RAGIII
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I emailed Dave and copped to the fact that through my own idiocy, I rendered one of the float tops unusable and would he please sell me a replacement sprue. Gentleman that he is, he found one and sent it out to me from NZ. Just got it last week, so I'll be back on this one soon. Still figuring out the Grigorovich.
Cheers,
Bud
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Honesty, always the best policy, have had a similar (but not so tragic occurrence- just a decal) where I asked to buy the replacement from FLY Models and they sent it gratis also.
Ed
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When they suggest you use heat to set the decals I don't think this is quite what they meant, man, what a shame but luckily Dave has come to the rescue.
Des.
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Oh my Bud ...that is very painful to see , glad you have a replacement and look forward on the next up date . Now about the hair drier . Don't go for the really cheap ones . Revlon is a good brand . Been using my for more the 20 years now . Just remember to clean the back vents ( this is with every hair drier ) and she will last a very long time .
Terri
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Only just found this and then came across the stomach churning float. Oh dear!! Glad you were able to get a replacement and quickly too - you are making a cracking job of the rest of the model it would have been a terrible disaster if you had not been able to get a replacement. I'll bet a fortune that you will not do that again!!!
Stephen.
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Bud, just a little...dip? in the road. I know you will make a wonderful
recovery with the new sprue and continue on to your usual terrific finish.
Onward and upward, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Bud, update please..!!
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.....no no no not a mistake, that's my hit the dock too hard damaged float for the diorama........
Steve
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Well, my friends, since I finished the Oeffag D.III and had to wait for the CSM FK.8, I figured I may as well get back on this one. Thank you all for your encouragement and support. Means a lot to me.
Aside from the melted floats, I alshttp://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/Themes/actualism_202/images/bbc/right.gifo dropped the top wing on the nearly completed fuselage, smashing the cabane struts. Fit issues, due to my own stupidity, also helped to diminish my enthusiasm for this build. But once I set my emotions aside, I was able to push on and actually enjoy this project. Repaired the struts, forged on and made a little progress.
Preshading in preparation for the excellent Aviattic Naval hex decals.
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Once the decals were on, the preshading became very subtle.
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And here's where she stands as of today.
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Light at the end of the tunnel!
Cheers,
Bud
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Looking very well salvaged Bud! I just finished mine for the Diorama Group build (same scheme) however haven`t published any completed photos as I was having a war with Photobucket. (I won!) Your Naval Hex is light years ahead of and better then mine, nicely done and I`m looking forward to the final version.
Cheers,
Lance
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Lovely lozenge.
Everyone fowls up occasionally , I did the same thing on a T 35 tank model , grabbing the heat gun rather than the hair dryer , melted a little more 'battle damage' than I wanted...
Thanks, Steve! I've mucked up my share of models, but this was by far the worst.
Cheers,
Bud
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Looking very well salvaged Bud! I just finished mine for the Diorama Group build (same scheme) however haven`t published any completed photos as I was having a war with Photobucket. (I won!) Your Naval Hex is light years ahead of and better then mine, nicely done and I`m looking forward to the final version.
Cheers,
Lance
Thanks, Lance, but you hex is superb and is exactly what I was trying for. Really looking forward to seeing you diorama.
Cheers,
Bud
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Lovely lozenge.
Everyone fowls up occasionally , I did the same thing on a T 35 tank model , grabbing the heat gun rather than the hair dryer , melted a little more 'battle damage' than I wanted...
Thanks, Steve! I've mucked up my share of models, but this was by far the worst.
Cheers,
Bud
Funny Amigo Your Muck Ups are better than my smooth builds 8) Impressive as always My Amigo!
RAGIII
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Getting close !!!!
Ed
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Great recovery Bud - one to set an example to us all. I for one would never have known of the mishaps if you had not told us about them - a real tribute to your skill. Just looks the usual hyper-standard of your other models to me…..
Stephen.
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Simply remarkable, love what you have done.
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'Subtle' is good! Nice work, Bud ;)
vB :)
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Very nice work sir. When I do get to mine, your build will be an excellent tutorial.
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Thank you all so much! I really appreciate the encouragement!
She's finally a biplane.
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Now, on to the wee bit of rigging that there is and the floats.
Cheers,
Bud
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Really beatiful. You do a great job,Bud.
Bye,
Manni
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Cracking Hex Bud!
Beauty
Guy
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Wonderful model, Bud! You do a perfect job as always. I love you managed to get the decals done!
Andreas
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As usual Bud you have produced a really first class model - when it is completed it will repay some very close study. Excellent model.
Stephen.
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Bud what can I say what has not been already said?
I simply love it!
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Well Amigo this one is up to your usual Beautiful Standards!
RAGIII
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Thank you, guys! I'm not used to working with anything so large, heavy and cumbersome. Takes some getting used to and this is smallish compared to other WNW kits in my stash. Working on the float assembly now and hope to have her finished by Monday.
Cheers,
Bud
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Well, she's finally done! My second WNW model is now in the cabinet. More photos in the completed models section.
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Thanks for hanging in there with me, my friends!
Cheers,
Bud