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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Completed models => Topic started by: lone modeller on July 05, 2016, 03:00:03 AM

Title: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: lone modeller on July 05, 2016, 03:00:03 AM
Evening All,

The Hansa Brandenburg CC was named after Camillo Castiglione a banker who bought the Hansa and Brandenburgisch Fleugzeug-Werke Gmbh in 1916. The machine was designed by E. Heinkel and was powered by a Benz III 150 hp engine, a Heiro 220 hp engine or an Austro-Daimler 185hp engine.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4307/36184378241_50f8a1ccf4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/X8up1n)

The machine was designed as a short range defensive fighter for use by the Austro-Hungarian navy and there was hope that the German navy would use them too but although they accepted one machine, German pilots tended to prefer floatplanes.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4326/36184382241_2e25f66af0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/X8uqck)

The unusual multiple V strut (or star strut) configuration had been used on the Hansa-Brandenburg D1 fighter and the Hansa-Brandenburg KDW - a D1 on floats. Only 35 of this type were built and most were used by the Austro-Hungarian navy for protection of harbours and bases on the Adriatic coast.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4322/36184380861_fe51bb01f3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/X8upMx)

 Lt Gottfried Banfield was the best known of the navy pilots to fly these machines which were in service during the summer and autumn of 1917. They were able to hold their own against the Italian flown Nieuport 11, although they were less manoeuvrable than the Nieuports they were slightly faster. Early machines were fitted with one machine gun but later examples had two.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4321/35511241643_fd9b5b4bb2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W71oWX)

There is a resin kit of this aircraft by Omega Models but I have never seen one so I cannot comment on it.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4320/35511239903_89619417c8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W71oqX)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4326/35511234573_859a2cc8de_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W71mR4)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/35924594100_020411d935_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WJwWes)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4300/35511230983_67f2cc7faa_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W71kMa)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4299/35924592840_e828b05b68_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WJwVRJ)

Thanks for looking.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: coyotemagic on July 05, 2016, 04:06:57 AM
She's truly stunning, Stephen!  Truly remarkable work!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: Des on July 05, 2016, 08:14:17 AM
You have done a brilliant job with this Scratch build Stephen, everything about this model speaks quality, it has turned out to be a real show stopper.

Des.
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: IanB on July 05, 2016, 12:03:21 PM
Fantastic work Stephen, very nice indeed.
 It's hard to believe that this aircraft was faster than the Nieuport  11 though!

Ian
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: smperry on July 05, 2016, 02:14:11 PM
That is a real piece of eye candy. I love varnished wood and CDL and you have done a first rate job on both with this gem. Ole Ernst sure liked his star struts. Was there any reduction in drag over struts and wires?

sp
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: ondra on July 06, 2016, 03:21:41 PM
This is really jaw dropping, Stephen. My hats off to your scratchbuilding skills, sir!

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: Manni on July 06, 2016, 03:27:09 PM
Looks very intresting. Scratch building is a dicipline on it's own and you have mastered it.
Manni
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: boggie on July 06, 2016, 07:21:33 PM
Absolutely beautiful result Stephen.

Salute!  :)

Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: lcarroll on July 06, 2016, 11:38:11 PM
Stephen, you've really outdone yourself with this one! Just sheer quality through and through; the technical challenges of the star strut configuration, the woodgrain and CDL finish, and the compound nature of the boat/hull design all masterfully completed. It's a stunning model and again, my hat's off to your incredible modelling skills.
Beautiful!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: WarrenD on July 07, 2016, 08:23:26 AM
Gorgeous! Just gorgeous.

Warren
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: lone modeller on July 12, 2016, 03:21:29 AM
Thank you gentlemen for your kind remarks - I really appreciate them all.

IanB: according to K. Munson (Fighters and Training Aircraft 1914-1918) this was the case. I suspect that the difference in speed was not very great but it seems to have been enough to allow the Austrians to keep this type in service until it was replaced by land-based fighters in 1918.

SMP: I do not know wether there was any advantage with respect to drag. It is possible that Heinkel was experimenting with two ideas - strength (the struts and the frame of this aircraft was steel tube), and he may have been experimenting with strut design in terms of reducing drag. In any event the star strut (or multiple V to give its technical name), was a dead end - on the machine supplied to the German navy extra struts were added at the wing tips - I suspect to reduce flutter and vibration, but not being a pilot or aero-engineer I am guessing on these points.   
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: ondra on July 12, 2016, 04:28:59 PM
Hi all,

please let me add my two cent on the topic of the star struts. The original intention really was reduction of the drag compared to the configuration of struts and wire rigging (the star struts had an aerodynamic shape, as mentioned above). This concept was first used on the Hansa Brandenburg D.I (I have this information from the Windsock datafile for H-B D.I). However, the lower drag was completely offset by the higher weight of the strut system, therefore this conception did not survive for long.

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: ermeio on July 13, 2016, 02:53:17 PM
Stunning and colorful model, Stephen!
It is a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: Ernie on July 13, 2016, 09:13:44 PM
Stephen, you have a really stunner there!  An unusual and interesting
model, done as usual with your eye for detail!  Great job, my friend!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: Monty on July 14, 2016, 02:41:48 AM
That is a very beautiful model! I like it very much! Well done!
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: gbrivio on July 14, 2016, 04:02:58 AM
Beautiful model and a very interesting subject.
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: gedmundson on July 15, 2016, 10:30:57 AM
Hi Stephen - you've done an amazing job on a very unique subject! Thanks for sharing.
Regards,
Gary

(ps - just read your bio, very interesting. Lived in Rochester Kent myself back in the early 60's!)
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: lone modeller on July 16, 2016, 03:09:38 AM
My thanks to Ermio, Ernie, Monty, gbrivio and Gary for dropping by and leaving such encouraging comments. I really appreciate them all.

Gary - yes Rochester Kent is just down the road from me - an interesting and old settlement with plenty of history of its own, and of course the castle and cathedral - much of which are built from Kentish ragstone (what else?).

Stephen.
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on July 16, 2016, 02:21:00 PM
WOW, Stephen...a beauty to be sure.  Aren't those float planes the coolest????

Well done,

Dan
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: Dirigible-Al on July 21, 2016, 02:27:49 AM
Hi Stephen
Luckily I spotted this one early on and enjoyed following it. Yet another stunner and such a great subject.
Alan.
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: Bolman on July 30, 2016, 10:43:53 AM
Outstanding results Sir! I don't believe I could have done it myself. An excellent example of the CC for sure.
So,with this one completed, what's next in the queue?

John
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: lone modeller on July 31, 2016, 02:40:39 AM
Thanks Dan, Al and John for leaving such positive comments.

John: the next build has started - it is the Caudron G IV in the diorama GB of this site.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Scratch-built 1/72 Hansa-Brandenburg CC
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 31, 2016, 05:43:51 PM
Amazing build