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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: stefanbuss on June 10, 2016, 03:44:41 AM
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This one started during the Seaplanes Group Build but never came further than the announcement... :o
Anyway, I will try to make a model of Werk-Nummer 1402
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3339343435303339.jpg)
and she will be afloat.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3234333734666363.jpg)
Stay tuned... 8)
S.
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Stefan,
I really like that base, what did you use for the water?
Cheers,
Lance
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following with great interest!
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I too would like to know how the water was made, I love the slight swell rolling in as well really adds to the feel of the effect!
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You have made a great start Stefan, looking forward to seeing more.
Des.
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Oh, so many things to learn....I love float planes.
Manni
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1402 had her floats covered with tar. Here you can see the effect i am after (beware: still a work in progress!): Looking from one direction the floats will appear blacked, from another one you can see the Transtoff through the thin layered tar.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/6636333933346661.jpg)
Other features specific for 1402: Oigee sight for the obserber's parabellum; small wing cutout, high exhaust, lifting wire attached on upper wing. Anemometer on starboard struts. All those will be adressed in due time.
The description on how i did the water will follow shortly. I have to edit the photos before.
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Lovely work so far Stefan! The water is convincing and the tarred floats are looking good!
RAGIII
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Very nice effect you created on the floats, well done.
Des.
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Thank you for your kind words.
My description on "how I did the base" has been posted here: http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=7394.0 (http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=7394.0)
Remember: ´Some of you had asked for it, so don't complain too much. 8)
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This is today's status: The floats have been fixed to the base. The mechanic (who started his life as a CSM bomb servicing guy) is doing something secret, being watched by elanlane's FANTASTIC naval officer.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3466396137376136.jpg)
I still have to wait for the acrylic gel to dry. This means those struts can't be fixed to the floats at the moment, as i still have the need to correct the "water" between the floats. That would be very tough to do otherwise (with struts fixed, i mean).
But i was bored with working on the Pfalz and the seaplane simoultaneously. Instead i created another base.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/6230326237613734.jpg)
again using a piece of styrofoam, cobblestones made from modelling clay (actually leftovers from another project never completed, years ago) and my trusty repair paste for the groundwork. In fact this was rather silly, as that base will be used with another project still "in the pipeline", number four of coming things. The dark spots are meant to be oil (they do look very oil-ish in reality), dropped onto the base with a brush. The forms are a result of the concrete slabs' relief.
Now it's time for removing those strange gaps on the upperwing (i understand they are there due to the need for a large or small cutout, but they are a burden nonetheless).
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3365333339343533.jpg)
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Beautiful work on the base(s), Stefan! The "water" will take the seaplane
model to a higher level. Well done with the floats as well, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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The addition of the figures will make a huge difference to the overall effect of this scene, well done Stefan.
Des.
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This one started during the Seaplanes Group Build but never came further than the announcement... :o
I too am guilty of that Stefan...one day I am gonna start that Sopwith Schneider and finish it (certainly won't be the same day though!). :)
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Good stuff! I like the treatment of the floats.
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While i am waiting for the waves to cure, i worked a little bit more on the scene, adding a family of ducks (or to be precise: a family of mallards (Anas platyrhynchos), being the most popular duck species in northern Germany).
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/1366_3139326464333737.jpg).
You can see that the family is approaching line astern, but the little ducklings have their problems in keeping to their station.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3862626538396261.jpg)
And the large ducks will have to duck in a very short time (or they will beheaded from the floats rigging).
What a play with words. Sigh. 8)
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Nice touch Stefan! I'm enjoying your updates.
Cheers,
Gary
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Cute little birds..., colorful flowers... you actually seem to be a hippie (leaving aside the "beheading" of course).
Really nice touch on the water, these mallards! And I've never seen a floatplane built where the floats are first fixed onto the base. Quite a clever approach!
Borsos
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Hello Stefan,
I like your ducking ducks, nice little detail. Only thing, what you could improve is the to bring some more depth effect into the water, using some water effects from Vallejo or some clear artist's acrylic gel from the next Bauhaus.
Manni
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Those ducks will add more life to the diorama.
Nice view.
Adam.
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some clear artist's acrylic gel
This is already in use - i was just not in the mood to set up the proper photo/lighting equipment. The water looks like real fake water - it's just very hard to show on photos.
S.
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Love the ducks, Stefan! Very cool.
Cheers,
Bud
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Patience is a virtue, my Grandma used to say. But no virtue is seem to possess...
I had problems getting WNW's nacal hex decals to fit around the leading edge, so i started using Mr. Decal setter, to save time. Bad idea.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3030333535343238.jpg)
Mr. Decal setter seemed to be a bit hungry and ate through the decal. Now i have to spend time repairing my shortcut.
Getting the Balkenkreuz onto the lower wing went without problems.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/6334663538643837.jpg)
The next step will be to highlight the ribs and to dirty up the wing.
Crewman is finished.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/6536633531396665.jpg)
As i had said earlier on, he started as a CSM bombcrew guy, but received the Kaiserliche Marine's fatigue for flying personnel, being a cotton drill, available in field grey or bleached linen, sometimes with an additional pocket on the belly. The photo is taken from WNW'S instruction for the Roland D.VIa.
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Nice work on the underwing cross and lozenge( too bad about the holes but I am sure you will put them right). The figure is looking good !
RAGIII
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Class work so far, I really like it, Stefan!!
Get the Wings not too dirty. You are at sea !!
No highly swirled dirt from a dusty airfield etc. etc.
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You are at sea !!
No highly swirled dirt from a dusty airfield
Bertl, i know. But the lower side has to be mucked up nonetheless - just wait a bit. First i have to force myself to work on the lozenge-repair-job...
S.
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There is a lot of good work and details like mallards look very cool. The crewman is very realistc.
Looking to see the plane growing on the floaters.
Giuseppe
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Gorgeous work, Stefan! The Ducks are a neat addition...nice
thought. I look forward to your next update, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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The conversion of the CSM figure looks fine. Will you add some dull coat or are you going to leave him that glossy? And what did you use for modelling the Navy fatigue?
Borsos
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Borsos,
the poor guy is not glossy at all. I was lazy (once more) and didn't put up the tent i use for high-quality photos. Instead i used two of my high-power daylight-modelling-lamps, without some softening up installation between the guy and those lamps, which is why is seems to be so reflective (which he ain't in reality).
The changes in his dress were made with Apoxie sculpt.
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NTR.
The interior is finished, more or less. Only small stuff to be added, like the spare ammo drums for the Parabellum lMg.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3538616438363833.jpg)
The problems i had were of my own stupidity.
Weathering is for a very sandy airframe, if anyone cares. Next step is to work on the engine, which is the weakest part of the kit.
As i said: Nothing to report.
S.
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Beautiful work on the internals Stefan, your wood colours look excellent.
Des.
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Gorgeous interior Stefan! Clean and crisp work and the wood tones are excellent!
RAGIII
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Totally agree about the wood tones. The rest of the interior looks superb too.
Stephen.
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Some really nice work there, Stefan! I'm enjoying this...
Marc
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Ah, Stefan, the interior looks stunning. I like the light tone of the wood.
Looking forward what will come up next.
Manni
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Thank you for your kind words.
NTR, part deux: the engine.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3966313863623637.jpg)
The core engine was improved a bit: pushrods were replaced, wiring harness was added as well as the Bakelit wiring covers. I decided to leave the valves as they are (my first idea was to replace them with valves taken from an Merc DIII engine, but i was lazy). This is an area where Taurus might come for help... I know that yellow wiring is not correct, as it should be black due to the rubber insulation used for seaplanes - but with the black cylinders, nobody would recognize my additional effort. 8)
The full engine in a single day - i was never as fast as that. And i am sure i never will be again.
The fuselage is now closed and waiting for the glue to dry.
Stay tuned for the next episode.
S.
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You made a real nice engine out of the kit's parts. And I am sure that they used yellow rubber in navy aviation of wwi as well, at least on this very airplane ;)
Borsos
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Beautiful work, Stefan! The engine is a gem and to be done in a day
with such great results is outstanding, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Wow, one day for such a result? Great.
Yellow, black...doesn't matter the main thing is that the viewer can see your work.
Manni
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Stefan,
I've just reviewed your Thread here and learned much; I started the preparation work on my W.12 yesterday and will be following along behind you if that's OK. This is a wonderful project thus far, I really like the results you got on both bases and the engine turned out really well. Keep up the great work and I'll continue to follow the inspiration of the master, I'll have to open a Build Log soon. ;)
Cheers,
Lance
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excellent work on the engine! You are moving along quickly on this one. You must really be enjoying the model!
RAGIII
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Just to show off a bit more: Here she is, afloat for the very first time. And she swims! (The thread's title can stay, hurray 8), otherwise it would have been "sinking time", hehe)
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/6536623536396231.jpg)
Actually this was a test to prove my theory's validity - to fix the floats in the water before adding the rest of the plane.
Lance: you should really take your time adressing the top wing's seam. It's very obvious to be seen if not dealt with properly. I decided to take a shortcut there and have to live with that...
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"Lance: you should really take your time adressing the top wing's seam. It's very obvious to be seen if not dealt with properly. I decided to take a shortcut there and have to live with that..."
Thanks for the "Heads up" on that Stefan. I'll take a look at it by dry fitting it later today, good advice!
Cheers,
Lance
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Brilliant work as always, Stefan! Your cockpit and engine are fantastic. I'm glad to see that you are following the instructions in regards to the fuselage construction. I did not and had trouble with the fit of the fuselage halves.
"Lance: you should really take your time adressing the top wing's seam. It's very obvious to be seen if not dealt with properly. I decided to take a shortcut there and have to live with that..."
I did the same thing. I should have followed Przemo's lead on this. I'm sure that yours will turn out better than mine.
Cheers,
Bud
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Looks brilliant, the idea with the floats is very smart. Everything else about the build is said above. Great!
Manni
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The going suddenly is much heavier (Lance, you might be interested to read the following carefully), as it is mostly a combination of me doing shortcuts (that don't work at all) and WNW's shxxxx design fighting me, for the time being successfully :(
After applying the decal on the fuselage's spine, i had to recognize the decal is too short. There is a visible gap towards the tailplane, and i will have to see how i can fix that on a very obvious part of the plane (apart from the fact that there is a black seam on the decal's border, that is not visible as long as the decal is still on the backing paper, but very visible once applied...)
This might be a hidden advert for Aviattic's Naval hex Lozenge product, as that black seam appears on the top wings' decals as well. Too bad [insert some inappropriate words of bad language here, please].
As you know, i am going to build No. 1402. She had Iron Crosses on her top wing first, which were changed later into the thick Balkenkreuz type. Those nonetheless are a bit smaller than the Iron Crosses were, which means the tips of the Iron Crosses were protruding from beneath the Balkenkreuz markings - those were painted in a dubious grey colour (the tips, that is, not the Balkenkreuze).
My first idea here was to paint the iron crosses in grey and put the Balkenkreuz decals on top. As i messed up the masking, i decided to take a shortcut (stupid me), used the kit's Iron Cross decals and paited the tips with a brush. Then the Balkenkreuze went on top. Bad surprise: The Iron Crosses white is showing through. So much for a shortcut, as i have to mask and spray the Balkenkreuze now.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3166316466356133.jpg)
If you have a look at the very first picture (the one showing 1402 in all her glory), you can see thin type Balkenkreuz markings on the fuselage. Here WNW have messed up their research, as the kit provides thin Balkenkreuze for No. 1407, which were smaller. I had applied thick Balkenkreuze first (and having removed them while using a huge amount of bad language), then the kit's thin Balkenkreuze. I knew something was weird, but i recognized it only this very morning - the thin type is too small, as the arms are too short. As the kit has No. 1401 as option C, the long thin type Balkenkreuze sould have been available, as the markings are identical to 1402... Now i have to do the fuselage markings for a third time. [insert some inappropriate words of bad language here of your own choice, please]
Lance: Please do take your time to work on those seams on the top wing, or your wing will look as shxxxx as mine...
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Stefan,
Thanks for all the advice, you may be assured I will follow it closely! I have just returned home from 3 days away (Grandson's Wedding, very nice!) and will probably not get back to the workbench for a day or two, but when I do.......!!
Cheers,
Lance
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Oh, Stafan, this sounds quiet bad. Not a real big problem but very time consuming to correct it. Keep calm, you will solve it.
Manni