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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Dave W on June 03, 2016, 01:24:34 PM
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Just received from Richard Alexander....
End of free shipping on 17 June 2016 (New Zealand time)
Yes it's true, after 7 years of being able to provide you with free worldwide shipping this service will be coming to an end in 2 weeks.
We have been investigating numerous options to provide you with the most cost effective shipping available. To this end, we are pleased to announce that Wingnut Wings models will begin shipping from the same warehouses in the USA, Europe and Hong Kong used by our very good friends at Weta Workshop (www.wetanz.com/shop). Dave will continue to ship smaller items like decals, spare sprues etc as well as models from the New Zealand warehouse.
Answers to some frequently asked questions about what will happen after the end of free shipping...
• When you place your order you should be able to display prices in US$, GBP £, Euro € , AUD$ and NZ$
• You will be able to choose to have your order shipped from the USA, Europe, Hong Kong or NZ warehouse (subject to stock availability).
• European Union VAT will be added to orders shipped to EU addresses from the European warehouse only. The great benefit of this will be that EU customers will no longer have to pay any VAT collection fees at the border.
• New Zealand GST will be added to orders shipped to NZ addresses from the NZ warehouse only.
• VAT/GST will not be added to orders shipped to non EU or NZ addresses. Depending on what country you live in and the value of your order there may be additional customs tariffs, duties, taxes and/or other fees imposed by your government and/or mail provider. These fees will remain your responsibility.
Despite the very best of preparations, a change like this involving the integration of 3 new shipping locations, is bound to encounter unforeseen problems. We expect that there will be some down time from 17 June 2016 when it will not be possible for you to place orders. Please do not be alarmed if/when this happens, hopefully it won't last longer than a few days but it could be a couple of weeks. Don't panic!
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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So presumably that's shipping costs and a further 15% price rise for us Kiwis. O for awesome. :-\
15% is a bargain... :-\ In Sweden we have 25% VAT. Hmmmm with shipping that would add up to about +$30 for a $79 kit. ??? We shall see, we shall see.
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So presumably that's shipping costs and a further 15% price rise for us Kiwis. O for awesome. :-\
No sympathy mate. You're just catching up with what Europeans have been paying since day one. Except UK VAT is 20% and our 8GBP handing charge was more than local postage costs would have been!
I'd hoped they would treat the published price as destination-tax inclusive (ie covered by the last set of price rises) so we might actually get a break in Europe, but doesn't look likely now.
Oh well, I've probably bought my last WNW, I do have about 30 still to make after all.
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PR disaster, increase prices substantially, then a few months later, increase prices again.
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So presumably that's shipping costs and a further 15% price rise for us Kiwis. O for awesome. :-\
No sympathy mate. You're just catching up with what Europeans have been paying since day one.
Err, no. Euros and pounds have always been worth far more than Kiwi dollars, so I've been paying a fair chunk more than Europeans since day one.
Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!
:)
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I have just collected my last free-shipping delivery from WNW - the Biff.
In Poland VAT in 23%, so with some extras for handling, I paid additional 120PLN to the 464PLN (equivalent for USD 119) for the kit. I wonder how it will be after June 17th.
All in all, prices rise on everything around us. One cannot assume that WNW kits will not follow this pattern. I am still willing to buy they products, which I consider the world best in their class. What worries me more than the price rise is the apparent stagnation in the new release offer... As I have put elsewhere, the mere Camel will not make me happy. Please, surprise us, WNW, with something else, to wipe our tears after this year bad news regarding your price tags.
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I have just collected my last free-shipping delivery from WNW - the Biff.
In Poland VAT in 23%, so with some extras for handling, I paid additional 120PLN to the 464PLN (equivalent for USD 119) for the kit. I wonder how it will be after June 17th.
All in all, prices rise on everything around us. One cannot assume that WNW kits will not follow this pattern. I am still willing to buy they products, which I consider the world best in their class. What worries me more than the price rise is the apparent stagnation in the new release offer... As I have put elsewhere, the mere Camel will not make me happy. Please, surprise us, WNW, with something else, to wipe our tears after this year bad news regarding your price tags.
I agree about the releases over the last couple of years. Although popular with some they were too pricey and not very high on my priority list. Unlike you the Camel is one I am looking forward to. I WILL purchase one, maybe two depending on how much of an increase is involved in shipping. Over the years I have only purchased 5 kits that were outside of my norm. The Salmson( still under painfully slow construction), The Pup and Rumpler CIV (Both still in the Box), the Fokker EI and LVG ( Both traded away). So I will just be more or less continuing my original pattern of ONLY purchasing WNW kits that fit the parameters of my Squadron collections. JG1 for the Central Powers, 19,43, and 56 Sq. RFC/RAF, N./SPA 124 and the Storks for the French, and the 27th and 94th Aero Squadron USAS. I know this is a very Narrow range but my wallet and SWMBO will like the policy ::)
RAGIII
PS: Just realized there is one more WNW kit I have that isn't in the above. DH2 ( Still in the Box)
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I wonder how the stock of kits will be shared by the 4 distribution centres where stocks are very low?
For models they’ve got a reasonable stock of they’ll periodically top up the kit inventory of the satellite depots from the NZ warehouse of course but when their worldwide stocks of a particular model run down to just a handful (as will inevitably happen at some point) it’s a different game.
For instance let’s say the Gotha sells out in the USA but there’s still a couple remaining at the other depots. It wouldn’t be worth WnW redistributing just a couple of kits especially as at such minimal stock levels they’d be ‘robbing Peter to pay Paul’ so I assume the US Gotha customer would then have to order from Europe, HK or NZ at additional postage cost.
WnW seem to have anticipated this as they said:
• You will be able to choose to have your order shipped from the USA, Europe, Hong Kong or NZ warehouse (subject to stock availability).
So the motto could be – buy early as unless you are lucky as regards location the last few remaining examples of a kit may sting for full international postage.
Regards
Russell
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So presumably that's shipping costs and a further 15% price rise for us Kiwis. O for awesome. :-\
No sympathy mate. You're just catching up with what Europeans have been paying since day one.
Err, no. Euros and pounds have always been worth far more than Kiwi dollars, so I've been paying a fair chunk more than Europeans since day one.
Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!
:)
Brilliant, Mac!
Made me smile in style ;D
vB
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I have just collected my last free-shipping delivery from WNW - the Biff.
In Poland VAT in 23%, so with some extras for handling, I paid additional 120PLN to the 464PLN (equivalent for USD 119) for the kit. I wonder how it will be after June 17th.
All in all, prices rise on everything around us. One cannot assume that WNW kits will not follow this pattern. I am still willing to buy they products, which I consider the world best in their class. What worries me more than the price rise is the apparent stagnation in the new release offer... As I have put elsewhere, the mere Camel will not make me happy. Please, surprise us, WNW, with something else, to wipe our tears after this year bad news regarding your price tags.
PS: Just realized there is one more WNW kit I have that isn't in the above. DH2 ( Still in the Box)
What about the lovely Pfalz you built? Another Nut in your collection ;)
vB
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I recently bought the AEG gIV and got hammered by the Austrian customs,uptil now all were untaxed If wingnutwings can quote a local price inclusive tax postage at a reasonable rate they have a chance, otherwise I think they are going to see a huge drop in sales. I took a chance with the Aeg getting through without extra costs and took a beating. So thats probably me back to 1/48.
Cheers
Andrew
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I wonder how the stock of kits will be shared by the 4 distribution centres where stocks are very low?
For models they’ve got a reasonable stock of they’ll periodically top up the kit inventory of the satellite depots from the NZ warehouse of course but when their worldwide stocks of a particular model run down to just a handful (as will inevitably happen at some point) it’s a different game.
For instance let’s say the Gotha sells out in the USA but there’s still a couple remaining at the other depots. It wouldn’t be worth WnW redistributing just a couple of kits especially as at such minimal stock levels they’d be ‘robbing Peter to pay Paul’ so I assume the US Gotha customer would then have to order from Europe, HK or NZ at additional postage cost.
WnW seem to have anticipated this as they said:
• You will be able to choose to have your order shipped from the USA, Europe, Hong Kong or NZ warehouse (subject to stock availability).
So the motto could be – buy early as unless you are lucky as regards location the last few remaining examples of a kit may sting for full international postage.
Regards
Russell
I agree. I can't see them incurring costs for redistribution. The kits will likely ship once from point of origin (China) to the respective warehouses and be sold from there. If your warehouse doesn't have it then you'll pay higher postage to have it shipped from one that does.
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Quote from Russell:
"So the motto could be – buy early as unless you are lucky as regards location the last few remaining examples of a kit may sting for full international postage."
Given the limited release status of the Kits this does not bode well for the customer.......... :'(
Cheers,
Lance
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Quote from Russell:
"So the motto could be – buy early as unless you are lucky as regards location the last few remaining examples of a kit may sting for full international postage."
Given the limited release status of the Kits this does not bode well for the customer.......... :'(
Cheers,
Lance
I'm afraid you're likely right Lance. :(
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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So presumably that's shipping costs and a further 15% price rise for us Kiwis. O for awesome. :-\
15% is a bargain... :-\ In Sweden we have 25% VAT. Hmmmm with shipping that would add up to about +$30 for a $79 kit. ??? We shall see, we shall see.
The Weta warehouse is in the UK. That means they should apply VAT at 20% when sold, rather than applying VAT in the country of purchase.
So your kits may be 5% cheaper!!!
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So presumably that's shipping costs and a further 15% price rise for us Kiwis. O for awesome. :-\
No sympathy mate. You're just catching up with what Europeans have been paying since day one.
Err, no. Euros and pounds have always been worth far more than Kiwi dollars, so I've been paying a fair chunk more than Europeans since day one.
Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!
:)
Thanks, Graham Chapman...but that had to have been pre-WnW.
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Hi everyone. I'm Luke from Polish. I love Wingnut. But. The first model SE5 bought in November 2009. Then it costs $ 59. SE 5a cost for the Polish Zloty 162.25 zł. (1$=2,75).
Today, 2,016 years
$ 1 = 3,86 zł
79 x3,86 = $ 304.94 zł
To this will be added VAT (20% in England), because I understand that the point of sale will be in the English model shop. In Poland VAT = 23%
79 x $ 0.20 = $ 15,8 x 3,86 zł = 60,98 zł
Consignment from England to Polish estimate at $ 10 (3, 86 zł) = 3.86 zł x $ 10 = 38,60 zł. Total cost SE5a today
304.94 + 60.98 + 38.60 = 404.52 zł
404,52 zł / 3,86 = 104, 7979 $ It costs me today SE5a
I do not know how much money goes to the seller in the model shop? I do not count earnings model shop. Variant optimistic.
No longer will I afford to buy a new Wingnut Wings. my earnings are too small.Detriment. I had enough to buy WNW. dreams
Regards
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Lukasz,
I appreciate your point about 20% VAT & the Europe postage costs being added to what you are used to paying but really any buyer in the EU should have been paying VAT (at their local rate) anyway.
It's just fortunate for some buyers (in some EU countries more than others) that parcels from WnW haven't attracted the attention of the Customs Department & had VAT charged.
From mid June this 'loophole' will disappear & there'll be no escape.
From my own experience in the UK Customs are fairly keen & I rarely got a parcel of WnW kits (I generally order 2 kits at a time) delivered without VAT being added. I can only remember one instance out of perhaps 10 parcels.
Regards
Russell
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I really feel for all our members who are forced to pay import duties and taxes plus other imposed fees, this adds a huge burden to the already high cost of a kit and as of the 17th they will have to pay postage as well, not a very comfortable position to be in. In Australia we are very fortunate having not to pay any import duties, taxes or any other form of payment for any orders we receive under $1000 value. My huge stash of Wingnuts models have all landed here for the cost of the kit alone, but like everyone else in the world this is about to change. I will have a choice of where the kit will be posted from and that will determine the postage costs, I think it is just the sign of the times and we all will have to pay the price if we want top quality WW1 aircraft kits.
Des.
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did you guys really think wnw would last forever? like airfix ,revell,tamiya? i called it years back when i said that wnw were highly underpriced for the quality and that they were basically wholesaling to its small fanbase.i knew if they sold to wholesalers who then sold to distributers the prices would get substantially higher. this is starting to happen it seems. i also think this is the beginning of the end. i dont expect many more releases. perhaps 6 to 10 but i think closer to 6 new tool kits. perhaps they will get around to a re-release or maybe just maybe they will sell their mold to another concern who will re-pop the popular sellers. i dont know but i plan only to buy the albatros b.ii unless they release something i really like. all this is speculation but i knew it would not be an ongoing concern that just continued releseing new tool kits at the rate of 4 per year indefinately. it had to end sometime.
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So maybe (hopefully) this is the chance for Roden to get back into business again?! At least I notice that Roden is drawing my interest more and more again, as WnW have ceased to come up with new (that is: reasonably affordable) model kits I REALLY WANT TO HAVE in the last two years or so. (Although I actually bought one from time to time...) Just my 2 Cents to it.
Richard
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The Weta warehouse is in the UK. That means they should apply VAT at 20% when sold, rather than applying VAT in the country of purchase.
So your kits may be 5% cheaper!!!
This is great news. I've bought a few Lord of the Rings figures from Weta over the years and have found them to be 100% A-OK.
vB
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I would have assumed that they would be stockpiling a number of tasty new releases to coincide with the new distribution process and help get it working.
Otherwise there seems little point in sending shipments of existing stuff to sit in weta warehouses. Surely everybody that wants to buy, say, a DFW will have done so before prices rise yet again.
So, perhaps we'll have a Dolphin, Junkers D.I, BE2c, d, e, f, 12, and maybe even a "Bloody Paralyser" to tempt us, by the end of the month.
..... of course, with WNW, who would predict sensible marketing plans?
Sandy
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Hi Guys - latest update on WNW site re new distribution. Looks like we Brits can at least save the £8 Parcel Force handling fee in future
Who though, is Weta Workshop, and where are they based? That's a new source to me.
Regards - Tug
Oops - Just seen your post Von Bob, just hope they don't charge £1 per dollar - Hannants have just increased their prices to that effect. The Gotha is now a whopping £189.99 :o - looks like I made the right decision on that one a few weeks back ;D
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Hi Guys - latest update on WNW site re new distribution. Looks like we Brits can at least save the £8 Parcel Force handling fee in future
Who though, is Weta Workshop, and where are they based? That's a new source to me.
Regards - Tug
Oops - Just seen your post Von Bob, just hope they don't charge £1 per dollar - Hannants have just increased their prices to that effect. The Gotha is now a whopping £189.99 :o - looks like I made the right decision on that one a few weeks back ;D
Some confusion over this.
They are warehousing the kits, not selling them. They are told by WNW where to the send the kits. You still continue to pay WNW direct, there is no scope for adding margins like Hannants. They are a retailer, WETA (who are in the UK) are acting as warehousing only. You have no contract with WETA.
Differences will be, for UK sales, prices on WNW site will be in Sterling and include 20% VAT and shipping. No £8 processing fees. So, for instance, if shipping is £8, you pay exactly the same.
In fact, because Paypal use very dodgy exchange rates, there may be a saving in paying in Sterling, rather than $'s because there is no exchange rate loss.
It all revolves around the new shipping charge. Will UK shipping be the cheapest because the warehouse is in the UK? Will shipping be the same, flat rate, for all, or will it be charged at actual cost? Will WNW use better exchange rates than PayPal when converting the Sterling for orders? Will WNW now refuse to ship to Russia, as WETA do?
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I would have assumed that they would be stockpiling a number of tasty new releases to coincide with the new distribution process and help get it working.
Otherwise there seems little point in sending shipments of existing stuff to sit in weta warehouses. Surely everybody that wants to buy, say, a DFW will have done so before prices rise yet again.
So, perhaps we'll have a Dolphin, Junkers D.I, BE2c, d, e, f, 12, and maybe even a "Bloody Paralyser" to tempt us, by the end of the month.
..... of course, with WNW, who would predict sensible marketing plans?
Sandy
Excellent thought that somehow makes incredible sense. I just hope theirs is a sustainable business model. I too have purchased only those kits that appeal to me and will continue to do so but I must say that the increase in cost is definitely having a negative impact on my ability to support this scale. I can only justify the expense with subject matter that I am really fond of, casual purchases are a thing of the past.
Dwayne
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...........Will UK shipping be the cheapest because the warehouse is in the UK? Will shipping be the same, flat rate, for all, or will it be charged at actual cost? Will WNW use better exchange rates than PayPal when converting the Sterling for orders? Will WNW now refuse to ship to Russia, as WETA do?
Ah, I guess we'll all just have to wait and see then - the words string, piece, length and how spring immediately to mind :)
Tug
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I, too, have everything I want from the current offerings. However, I did pull the trigger on another Pup before shipping fees apply.
Cheers,
Bud
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Decisions are difficult sometimes. What to do with the end of free shipping?
I ordered a Pfalz D.IIIa a few weeks ago. It is listed for 79USD and it arrived at my address with an additional VAT and handling charges of 28,58 euro, which is at the moment 32,52 USD. So I have paid 111,52 USD.
Now there is another one on my wish list: a DFW C5 late which is listed at 129 USD where our customs and postal service will add a charge between 35 - 40 euros (it's a lottery I haven't found a correct calculation, it seems to be different every time) So at a maximum of 174 USD I can order the DFW.
Now my question: is it better to order it now before free shipping ends, or should I wait and order it later at a European WnW distribution centre? If that will be based in the UK there might occur another issue for us on the continent if the brits vote in favour of a Brexit at the end of june.
Somehow I'm not convinced that ordering in the future will be more expensive without the free shipping.
Any bets?
regards,
Ivo
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I am with you, Ivo.
Vat, custom and handling charges count for a lot of money, that could be spent in posting charges instead. So I am leaning towards a zero-sum change. If there will be a Brexit after all, I think that the effect will be seen only in the long run (the Economist reported a 10 years period for Brexit to have 'full' development).
We'll see... but I just hope that all worths wile: with the slow pace of kit development I am falling off love with WnW...
ciao
edo
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Decisions are difficult sometimes. What to do with the end of free shipping?
I ordered a Pfalz D.IIIa a few weeks ago. It is listed for 79USD and it arrived at my address with an additional VAT and handling charges of 28,58 euro, which is at the moment 32,52 USD. So I have paid 111,52 USD.
Now there is another one on my wish list: a DFW C5 late which is listed at 129 USD where our customs and postal service will add a charge between 35 - 40 euros (it's a lottery I haven't found a correct calculation, it seems to be different every time) So at a maximum of 174 USD I can order the DFW.
Now my question: is it better to order it now before free shipping ends, or should I wait and order it later at a European WnW distribution centre? If that will be based in the UK there might occur another issue for us on the continent if the brits vote in favour of a Brexit at the end of june.
Somehow I'm not convinced that ordering in the future will be more expensive without the free shipping.
Any bets?
regards,
Ivo
BREXIT highly unlikely. Warehouse is in the UK, but even in the event of BREXIT, the UK will probably just replace VAT with an exact alternative.
I think the changes will give a marginal change in cost, except when ordering kits in bulk, which will become more expensive.
I'm thinking just order whatever you want, whenever, at least for us Europeans. There is no real benefit to buying now or waiting, it'll be roughly the same.
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DH 2 just sold out so maybe you should order what you want The end of free shipping may be emptying the shelves
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Slid one in under the wire. Just placed an order for a Fokker E.IV. :)
Eric
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Wise man Eric, that was my last "freebie" as well! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
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I wonder... Does it end at midnight of tonight? Or at midnight of the 17th? Might make 1 more order in the AM when I get paid ;)
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It ends midnight local (Kiwi) time - so that's about 12 hours away...
Nope, it's done. It's now a little after 4:00pm NZ time and the WNW site has been changed. The Free Shipping banner is gone and all the available kits now show "Coming Soon" while the OOS still show as such, except, interestingly, the DH.2. It's showing Coming Soon. Probably just an oversight on their part unless they found some hidden in a back room. :)
Hopefully everyone who decided on a last-second order with free shipping got it in in time.
Eric
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It's the end of the world as we know it.... Tralala.
edit: Now that WNW's latest piece of information is being distributed: the european warehouse will be in NL, thus any Brexit won't directly impact/affect operations. Prices will still be in USD, but can be changed as preferred. Operations to be resumed early July.
S.
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Yay i live in the Netherlands! So postagentschap Will be the absolute minimum. On a more interesting note: in this mornings mail Richard sent the logo of the Facebook fanpage/lsm site. It's the first time they acknowledge the existentie of our community so Mabel they actualiteit kisten to our suggestions and hopes
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When the distribution scheme was first outlined, I wondered if it might indicate expansion of the business and hoped for lots of new releases (albeit at high cost,) to get the new system off to a flying start.
Reading today's announcement though I wonder if it is the opposite: a dumping of stagnant stock out to selected existing Miramar warehouses and a winding down of the NZ facility. (The Camel will have been contracted some time ago so it doesn't really indicate much about current plans.)
I hope for the former.
S
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I feel the WnW thing is winding down. This feeling keeps creepng up my neck since two years or so. But I don't mind.
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Previously WnW had said that buyers would be able to order from any distribution centre (albeit at whatever extra postage costs). Today’s press release recants that “unfortunately, there will be no shipping from Hong Kong or the ability to select an alternative warehouse to have your order shipped from as previously advised. Sorry”.
So no centre in HK but more importantly no ability for anyone to buy a particular kit from the other distributors when it’s sold out at the ‘local’ one - as discussed a few days ago the facility to order from any distributor was vital when stocks of a particular kit had reduced to just a handful worldwide.
Now the situation is - if (for example) the last two Gothas happened to end up in the US, it won’t be possible for a buyer outside of the Americas to order one. Hence kits will effectively become ‘sold out’ for many buyers before they would when distributed solely from NZ.
As Fred Pontin used to say in his 1970’s British TV holiday advert – "Book Early" – (i.e. if you want it buy rather than hesitate).
Regards
Russell
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the european warehouse will be in NL,
Ah, that might be the start of real free shipping for me. I could pick it up at their warehouse ;)
regards,
Ivo
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I could pick it up at their warehouse ;)
...only if "picking up" is an option. So far there is no indication you might be able not-to-have-sent your order to your adress, instead visiting them to pick it up. There would be an additional need for some frontend staff to manage visitors...
Of course I would go the pickick-up-route myself as well. My home is not sooo far away from the Netherlands.
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It was just wishful thinking.
regards,
Ivo
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This is getting stupider every day. I give WNW a year and a half to 2 years before they close the doors for good. Remember I called it. Hopefully they will sell their molds to revell who will do repops like they do with eduard. Might even be cheaper with no photoech then we can get hgw am sets etc.
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Yay i live in the Netherlands! So postagentschap Will be the absolute minimum. On a more interesting note: in this mornings mail Richard sent the logo of the Facebook fanpage/lsm site. It's the first time they acknowledge the existentie of our community so Mabel they actualiteit kisten to our suggestions and hopes
Hallo
I not sure this is our community. This is Large Scale Modeller logo and they do a diorama GB with the Wingnut Wings Fans FB.
See here http://forum.largescalemodeller.com/forum/221-diorama-gb/ (http://forum.largescalemodeller.com/forum/221-diorama-gb/)
Greetz
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This is getting stupider every day. I give WNW a year and a half to 2 years before they close the doors for good. Remember I called it. Hopefully they will sell their molds to revell who will do repops like they do with eduard. Might even be cheaper with no photoech then we can get hgw am sets etc.
Or perhaps…
It’s the rampant speculation on forums among those who “know” what WNW is really up to. Although Wingnut Wings never stated such things, people were always reading between the lines – the Camel (and/or other “surprise” releases) would coincide with the price increases, or a particular trade show (again, never announced by WNW) – and when it wasn’t, it must have been “delayed” do to some nebulous production “problem”. If WNW ever announced a release date, I’ve certainly never seen it.
When the distribution arrangement was announced, the speculation was that Hannant’s, or some other third party, was going to be one of the distributors – and how will “Brexit” (if it happens) affect this in other European countries? As for the Hong Kong issue; no doubt it was in the plan originally, but the deal did not go through – for reasons which we may never know (and that are really none of our business).
The fact that Wingnut Wings keeps things to themselves is celebrated as a “good” thing when one or more “surprise” releases come out of nowhere, but it’s a “bad” thing when an announced change in business doesn’t conform to our pre-conceived notion of how it “should” have been done. Then, among those whose “expert” opinions and predictions (whether about what “should” or “would” happen) turn out to be wrong, the hyperbole is priceless.
I have no idea what the future holds for WNW. They have no control over exchange rates, or shipping costs, or other outside factors that affect their business. They can only adapt and react. How this latest change will affect their business, only time will tell. I think it’s a bit early for doom-and-gloom, or predictions of any kind – not that that will end the speculation.
Rich
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And with 45 WNW kits in the stash, I'm good. This "end of an era" just means I'll shop more carefully, and try to trade when possible. It's not like I have not reached the point of S.A.B.L.E.
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Something I have only seen on the WNW Facebook Fan Club is a flyer from WNW showing the Camel in Barkers Markings. It also has a line that States roughly, Trade inquiries are welcome to contact Wholesalers@ Weta. So this seems to indicate that Hannants, Squadron etc. can now seek to purchase kits as dealers without paying retail. This could mean, and I emphasize COULD, that the kits may be sold by your favorite distributers in your country perhaps eliminating vat charges. Again I emphasize that this is MY take on this and in no way is a WNW statement.
RAGIII
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209247382759571&set=pcb.1313664685327846&type=3&theater
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Something I have only seen on the WNW Facebook Fan Club is a flyer from WNW showing the Camel in Barkers Markings. It also has a line that States roughly, Trade inquiries are welcome to contact Wholesalers@ Weta. So this seems to indicate that Hannants, Squadron etc. can now seek to purchase kits as dealers without paying retail. This could mean, and I emphasize COULD, that the kits may be sold by your favorite distributers in your country perhaps eliminating vat charges. Again I emphasize that this is MY take on this and in no way is a WNW statement.
RAGIII
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209247382759571&set=pcb.1313664685327846&type=3&theater
VAT is always payable in Europe. You either pay when it enters the country, or when a retailers sells it to you. The retailer pays VAT when their order enters the UK, then recoup it when they sell it.
I also strongly doubt that retailers will be allowed discounts. This would entirely undermine the agreement that has been reached with WETA. I expect WETA has a contract where they are WNW's sole distributor.
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Something I have only seen on the WNW Facebook Fan Club is a flyer from WNW showing the Camel in Barkers Markings. It also has a line that States roughly, Trade inquiries are welcome to contact Wholesalers@ Weta. So this seems to indicate that Hannants, Squadron etc. can now seek to purchase kits as dealers without paying retail. This could mean, and I emphasize COULD, that the kits may be sold by your favorite distributers in your country perhaps eliminating vat charges. Again I emphasize that this is MY take on this and in no way is a WNW statement.
RAGIII
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Yup – saw this too and made the same conclusion as you Rick. Even tought about making an enquiry for the "Nordic Region" myself (for half a second or so) ;) This is actually bigger news than the change of shipping – it's a radical change to the WNW sales model as we know it... Perhaps not indicating they are planning to fold anytime soon – rather more like branching out?
Mikael
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Something I have only seen on the WNW Facebook Fan Club is a flyer from WNW showing the Camel in Barkers Markings. It also has a line that States roughly, Trade inquiries are welcome to contact Wholesalers@ Weta. So this seems to indicate that Hannants, Squadron etc. can now seek to purchase kits as dealers without paying retail. This could mean, and I emphasize COULD, that the kits may be sold by your favorite distributers in your country perhaps eliminating vat charges. Again I emphasize that this is MY take on this and in no way is a WNW statement.
RAGIII
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209247382759571&set=pcb.1313664685327846&type=3&theater
VAT is always payable in Europe. You either pay when it enters the country, or when a retailers sells it to you. The retailer pays VAT when their order enters the UK, then recoup it when they sell it.
I also strongly doubt that retailers will be allowed discounts. This would entirely undermine the agreement that has been reached with WETA. I expect WETA has a contract where they are WNW's sole distributor.
Actually if you look closely – trade inquiries should be directed to WETA, soo...
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How ever this all pans out, I wish the best of luck and continued future success to WNW.
I had always admired WW1 aircraft, but was just to scared to give one a try until they entered the scene and changed the game in this genre. I know they are not the only manufacturer who offers WW1 aircraft, but if you look at all the companies that have been birthed out of WNW coming on the scene and getting many to enter this field of model building, we owe them a debt of gratitude I would say.
Heres to hoping they are around for many years and that they continue to offers us a couple of new exciting kits each year.
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VAT is always payable in Europe.........................[/quote]
Well actually, in rural France, only if La Poste bother to collect it and for all my WNW deliveries (more than a few!) since we moved here at the end of 2009, I have only ever been charged ONCE! So having the VAT added in Holland and not having the option to continue to order direct from NZ, is a real kick in the nether regions!
Never mind, all part of the Macrame of the universe......
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Given Yankee postage rates to Canada, I'm not going to be able to buy very many kits with the new set up. I wish they would have left the option to choose which warehouse to ship from. But, I suspect that no one other than those in the continental US would buy from the Washington warehouse.
Albatros 1234; "Always with the negative waves Moriarty, can't you think positive thoughts?"
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I was kind of hoping for Long Beach as the warehouse as it's a one day trip over the Tehachapis up Hwy. 99. :)
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I wish the best of luck and continued future success to WNW.
Heres to hoping they are around for many years and that they continue to offers us a couple of new exciting kits each year.
Hear, hear. My thoughts exactly. WnW has added a lot to the 1:32 ww1 model world and I trust they will continue.
regards,
Ivo
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Given Yankee postage rates to Canada, I'm not going to be able to buy very many kits with the new set up. I wish they would have left the option to choose which warehouse to ship from. But, I suspect that no one other than those in the continental US would buy from the Washington warehouse.
Albatros 1234; "Always with the negative waves Moriarty, can't you think positive thoughts?"
I can't wait to get my stuff from "Yankee" warehouses. Get here fast, I'm excited. This new arrangement suits me just fine. Plus with all this complaining and everyone bailing out on WNW, and those people not being able to afford the kits anymore, maybe they won't sell out so fast.....Win-Win!