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Title: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on May 12, 2016, 07:20:31 AM: I know, I have more than enough to be getting on with, but the E.III is waiting for bits to dry, the RE8 is awaiting the postie....and I have too much spare time.

I also just bought the Windsock Special on the Fokker D.I to D.IV with the aim of starting this so here we go...can we say "sucker for punishment"?

Here's what I have to start with:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4120/35698465435_eabc20f1cc_c.jpg)

The wing detail is actually very nice, but they are way too thick so it would have to be sanded off anyway...add to that they are the wrong length and I think the best option is scratchbuild new ones....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4288/34889168703_7e9b7f45a3_c.jpg)

The fuselages are vaguely fuselage-shaped lumps of plastic, almost solid on the inside, different lengths, and way too narrow....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4058/34857686804_84ec729860_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4260/34857700644_d3312f845e_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4044/34889175683_c3185a7701_c.jpg)

Then there's a bag of metal bits and a sprue with some more lumps of plastic on it. I'm not sure what most of it is...possibly wheels, tail surfaces etc. There is a cowling, which could be usable....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4120/35529717212_46567ab02d_c.jpg)

So, what it all boils down to, is basically a scratchbuild, combined with some plastic sculpting!! What a terrible waste of good plastic, there really ought to be a law against this sort of thing... I'll be using a spare Roden engine, modified, for the D.I.

Add to that the fact that the drawings in the Windsock Special aren't consistent...the fuselages measure differently on the profiles and plan views, and the wingspans are different on the head-on views and plan views. Some of the drawings have the correct wingspan and wrong fuselage length, or vice-versa, and some have the wrong wingspan on all views (I'm taking my measurements from those supplied in the back of this same publication, so one of them has to be wrong)........I really thought Windsock put a little more care into their drawings but this is not the first time I've had this issue.
I copied the various views at different magnifications and made a complete set of correctly sized drawings....now I could begin!

I have made a start on the D.I fuselage. First job was to find a reference point. The underside of the fuselage matched the plans pretty well so that was my starting point. I took one half and got the underside matching nicely, then removed the plastic lump that represents the engine and corrected the nose profile. When that was done I moved back to the cockpit and upper decking until the profile matched all around.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4259/34889175113_b253d23c5a_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4288/35311525960_75fced9d75_c.jpg)

Next step was to tape the 2 halves together and match them, and when that was done I took the Dremel to them and started to hollow out the insides. I didn't go too far as I know there is some reshaping still to do and I want to leave enough so that I don't sand through.....

Finally for today, I added 1mm plastic strip to the joining edges of both halves to widen the fuselage to the correct width. Correct, that is, for the front...the rear is actually ok, but it's easier to widen all of it, then sand the back end - there's plenty of plastic!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4256/34857756434_680512d90b_c.jpg)

That is where it stands as of this evening. This will be put aside to finish my other 2 when I get the bits I need, but it should keep me out of trouble in the meantime.

Thanks for looking,

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: coyotemagic on May 12, 2016, 07:37:53 AM: Ahh, Merlin. "Have to be a magician to build one". Yet you are going to beat your psyche over the head with two of these torture devices. I know your skills are up to the task, but what about your mental and physical well being? I wish you the best and I'll be following along with whatever encouragement I can offer.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lcarroll on May 12, 2016, 08:02:35 AM: Ian,
I don't know whether to say something sympathetic, compliment you on your courage, or just repeat Justin's advice! Great subjects but the photo of the metal parts and the bird dropping, er sorry, sprue, is absolutely frightening; as you say there ought to be a law........!! :( All the best wishes on this project, I believe you'll end up "scratching" both models entirely. You are indeed a brave man! :o
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on May 12, 2016, 08:40:30 AM: Best of luck on your build of these two (kits?) I had thankfully forgotten just how BAD they are! I know you will turn them into winners.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Des on May 12, 2016, 08:41:50 AM: Reminds me a little of when I tackled the Battle Axe Eindecker and the Omega Mosca MB bis but like you I persevered and ended p with two nice kits. I'm sure that your skills will allow you to overcome the issues in front of you and you will build two decent models. I fully respect your decision to attack these builds and wish you all the very best in your endeavor.

Des.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: BigBlue on May 12, 2016, 01:57:23 PM: Wow! I'm enough of a newbie that I can say I have never before seen anything that terrible!! My hat is very much off to you.

Chris
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Flute on May 12, 2016, 05:23:04 PM: The Fokker Windsock drawings are fairly well known for the reproduction error and have caused Albatros a fair amount of embarrassment. Veterans 72 once produced an otherwise nice D.I based on these, and of course it ended up too small. IIRC the fault is usually laid at the door of the printers, and is much more common generally (i.e. not just Albatros Productions) than you'd think, and a major reason why all published plans need treating with judicious scepticism.

Merlin were okay to begin with (for those of you who missed them) in the context of what else was available, but rapidly became lumpier and more careless after the first 15 or so kits were produced. By the time of the double kits, and the 1/48th efforts, they were pretty awful. Did you know, at one time the white metal items were sold separately as aftermarket parts?

I'll be interested in seeing what comes of your build Ian. I have a different double kit on the slow burner (Halberstadt D.V and Albatros D.XI, much the same 'quality' as yours).

BTW, to quote "What a terrible waste of good plastic, there really ought to be a law against this sort of thing..". It really, really isn't terribly good plastic. So that's alright, then.

Paul.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Manni on May 12, 2016, 06:27:49 PM: Man!Salute to you for starting this kits. I would probably throw them into the bin. My respect for doing them.
Manfred
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Borsos on May 12, 2016, 10:44:12 PM: Oh yes, this is injection moulding at its best. Once I spend quite an amount of money for a Merlin 1/48 Nieuport 12 "kit". I scratchbuilt it in the end... Bonne courage for that one!
Windsock: Does anybody remember the 1/72 drawings of the WDF Fe8? You don't need measuring, starboard and port side are a different size, you can see it even with bare eyes!
Best wishes
Borsos
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: BigBlue on May 12, 2016, 11:43:03 PM: Quote from: Flute on May 12, 2016, 05:23:04 PM
BTW, to quote "What a terrible waste of good plastic, there really ought to be a law against this sort of thing..". It really, really isn't terribly good plastic. So that's alright, then.

LOL
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on May 13, 2016, 11:54:23 AM: LOL, thanks everyone for the encouragement.
Yes, these are awful, but they're pretty much all there is in this scale for these aircraft. It may well be easier to scratchbuild the whole thing, but I paid for the kit and I'm not going to throw it away...yes, my mother was a Scot! (I love Aberdeen!)

I've got the D.I fuselage to a point I'm happy with for now, it still needs a little tweaking and I'll remove the rear turtle deck fairing and replace it with a piece of plastic sheet sanded to shape (as I will on the D.II also). That will also take care of the rear cockpit edge.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4207/34889168023_72a447f794_c.jpg)

As I'd got that sorted, I started on the D.II fuselage today. I thought I'd started with the worst of the 2, but then I laid the parts on the plan:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4105/35659314606_d6181cc57f_c.jpg)

WHAT???? It's not even close! It looks as though these weren't injection moulded, they were poured!
I spent a while trying to work out the best way to correct it, and decided to start with the rear end, sanding both the upper and lower edges to fit to the plans.... I removed the turtledeck to aid with getting the angles right.... first one done...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4260/35698469915_275d42122d_c.jpg)

I then taped the 2 halves together at the front and rear and sanded the middle of the back end to match, then taped at the front and middle, and sanded the rear. I now had 2 reasonably correct rear ends, so I cut the front off.
The first one was sanded to match the plan - did I mention there is plenty of plastic?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4136/34857667594_f4f715c022_c.jpg)

The other side was sanded to match and the 2 were then glued back onto the corrected rear ends.....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4288/35529751292_e8aefaf876_c.jpg)

Much better!

Once that is properly dry I'll fill the joins with sprue melted in plastic weld to make it as strong as possible and allow further thinning, then add the same spacers on the joining edges as I did on the D.I.

Thanks for watching!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: oldalbie on May 13, 2016, 12:51:48 PM: You must be one patient individual Ian.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: andonio64 on May 13, 2016, 03:32:52 PM: :-O
Mamma mia!
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on May 13, 2016, 06:36:50 PM: Outstanding correction work! I really admire you guys that move so quickly from finishing one project and on to the next!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Des on May 13, 2016, 06:47:44 PM: You are doing a fantastic job correcting these kits, you have an up-hill battle but I'm sure you will win the race.

Des.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Ernie on May 13, 2016, 08:06:14 PM: Ian, my friend, you are a brave soul, but if anyone can master
these beasties, it is you. Onward and upward!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Bolman on May 13, 2016, 10:01:02 PM: I think I have one more Merlin kit in my stash (Roland D.II)... if I snuck it in with all these parts, he may not notice and build it without knowing...

Hi Ian!! Awesome job you have done so far, keep up the great work!!

John
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on May 14, 2016, 07:46:58 AM: Thank you all kindly for your encouraging (or otherwise!) words! Yes, this is barely even worthy of the title "kit".....

Rick - the problem is, I haven't finished the other builds yet! The postie has been though so I can get back to those now....and John...then I would have to keep it, assuming that it was the one I have in my stash!

I have been busy on these two excuses for fuselages most of today, doing nothing but sanding the outsides to fine tune the shape, and dremmeling the insides so I can actually put some sort of detail in them - basically "removing everything that wasn't Fokker" - there was a LOT of that!

After all that work, I now finally have a couple of usable fuselages!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4134/34889174313_22bff7fdd3_c.jpg)

and a quick check that the engine will fit...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4113/34889167323_6e09ebeff4_c.jpg)

So after 3 days I'm finally at the point that I would be at upon opening the box of a decent kit! (except I haven't any usable wings yet......)

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2016, 07:51:10 AM: Stellar work Ian! A few more days on the wings and interior and you will be set to build :-X
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: andonio64 on May 14, 2016, 05:39:36 PM: Hi Ian, I am amazed by your fantastic work, now I guess there are 2 possible ways to go:
A. Sue the kit producer to get refunds for the extra work you had to make
B. Thank them for having given the possibility to engage your intelligence and craftmanship for 3 days!

:-)

Beautiful work!

Antonio
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Flute on May 14, 2016, 09:02:11 PM: >A. Sue the kit producer to get refunds for the extra work you had to make
B. Thank them for having given the possibility to engage your intelligence and craftmanship for 3 days!<

Difficult. He's been dead for some time now.

Paul.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: andonio64 on May 14, 2016, 09:51:12 PM: Quote from: Flute on May 14, 2016, 09:02:11 PM
>A. Sue the kit producer to get refunds for the extra work you had to make
B. Thank them for having given the possibility to engage your intelligence and craftmanship for 3 days!<

Difficult. He's been dead for some time now.

Paul.

Of course it was a joke, I did not even know that man, RIP.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on May 16, 2016, 07:30:06 AM: Thanks, Rick, just what I wanted to hear!
Antonio, I think B would be the better option. I may live in the US but I haven't succumbed to the "sue for everything" mentality just yet! I saw recently that one of the States (I forget which one) has ruled it ok for a child to sue his dead father for "loss of companionship"...not quite sure how that will work!

Anyway, I have been busy outside for most of today, but did get the small cowling fairings removed from the front of the D.II (they were the wrong shape....surprise!) and painted the interiors ready for some framework...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4116/34889173643_b96663c7f2_c.jpg)

They aren't perfectly smooth but very little will be seen so they should be ok.

I also took care of any exterior filling and sanding needed on both aircraft, so apart from some minor work when I join the halves, all the major exterior alterations are done.

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Des on May 16, 2016, 07:32:53 AM: You are moving along well Ian, it will be great to see the interior details start to be added.

Des.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on May 16, 2016, 07:57:30 AM: Like Des I am looking forward to seeing the start of the interior details. Nice work to date!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on May 16, 2016, 09:32:03 AM: you are heading in the right direction for sure. will be fun to watch
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on June 01, 2016, 11:55:45 AM: Thanks all!
Another small update....
I carved and sanded new turtledecks for both aircraft from plastic stock, and have started adding interior detail. So far just some basic framework and the wooden side panels to which some of the ancilliaries were attached.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4287/34889172903_2ebe1e3055_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4006/34889166943_0069d8677c_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4264/34857683164_8cbd996001_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4209/35529714892_0f5c7b8ae4_c.jpg)

Next will be the ammunition boxes, oil tanks, a coupe of instruments, and the seats.

This will be the last update for a week or two as I have a new job and am heading out to Wichita, Kansas, tomorrow for training.

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: boggie on June 01, 2016, 07:42:13 PM: Outstanding work Ian.

Obviously your skills are top notch but I think second to you patience and determination.

All very good attributes for a pilot IMHO, if I may say so.

I haven't driven a King Air but I have a Cheyenne IV, which is fairly comparable and a lovely aeroplane.

I am sure you will enjoy your new flying machine.

So, Per Ardua Ad Astra mate, and looking forward to your next post. :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on June 03, 2016, 12:28:14 AM: Looking great Ian! Your perseverance is amazing!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Des on June 03, 2016, 07:24:37 AM: The two models are coming together very well Ian, they are a lot of work but I'm sure they will be superb models when completed.

Des.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 02, 2016, 04:53:16 AM: I can't believe it's been almost a month since I did anything on this. I spent 2 1/2 weeks in Kansas doing a King Air 300 type rating, so that accounted for a fair bit of the delay, and I just haven't had the mojo since.
I have got back to doing some of the smaller items though. I've been working on cleaning up the props and exhaust, and done some work on the Roden engine that I'll be using in the D.I - since it was a spare from another kit I have had to scratch build the inlet manifolds and camshaft assembly using brass rod and Evergreen channel section.....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4289/34857748604_33bebfa33c_c.jpg)

Hopefully I'll get back to some of the bigger stuff soon.....

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 15, 2016, 07:21:31 AM: I got a good hit on these two today, and they're now starting to look a little more acceptable.

Firstly I filed out the slots in the right fuselage halves for the Spandaus to mount in, and added the ammo bins....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4069/34889171973_c47e32b528_c.jpg)

then I concentrated on the D.I , adding the engine and fuel tank. With the engine in place I had to remake the ammo bin as it was too thick, so there is now a much thinner lump of plastic in its place.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4257/34889166383_6c9fc8eaf1_c.jpg)

Finally, I made up an oil tank, added the supports for the seats in both aircraft, and started cleaning up and correcting the D.II cowling. It needed shortening a little and thinning a lot, and I opened up the front slightly. It is now much more acceptable.
If I can get the seats and controls in tomorrow they'll be about ready to close up, then the real work can begin!

Thanks for looking in,

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 15, 2016, 03:42:32 PM: ditto. where else can you get a model of a fokker d.1. like this
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on July 16, 2016, 02:57:18 AM: As usual your corrections and extra details are just first class (or better). The engine looks very good - the additional parts make a huge difference.

To work on three models at the same time requires a form of concentration that I simply lack - I can only ever manage one!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on July 16, 2016, 04:18:41 AM: This is continuing to be an inspirational thread showing just what can be accomplished with patience and skill!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 16, 2016, 11:25:48 AM: Thanks for all the comments folks.
I had another good day today. I added the seats and seatbelts, then made up a couple of control columns and added those. I few small adjustments to make sure everything fitted correctly and the fuselage halves were joined!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4233/35698490475_a2d8b52376_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4287/34857759414_b14a909297_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4132/34857766754_92b89cff95_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4127/35311518000_a28929a7cd_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4209/35698550925_ceaecc6120_c.jpg)

Now we"re rolling.....

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on July 17, 2016, 03:25:39 AM: Just lovely work. Keep it up Ian.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 18, 2016, 04:47:27 AM: Thanks Stephen

I've got a bit more done and the amorphous blobs are starting to look like something recognisable at last.

After joining the fuselage halves the first job was to fill the gaps and sand the fuselages to the correct final shapes. Thanks to all the work I did earlier they weren't too far off. There was a slight lip under the D.II which was taken care of with filler, and the fuselages were sanded square with constant checking against a metal square. I had sanded the D.I nose a little too round underneath so I have added some milliput there and when it's set I will sand it to the correct shape. I made the mistake of thinking the nose was rounded but in fact the sides are straight and the underside is flat - I just needed to round the corners!

The turtledecks have been added behind the cockpits and blended in at the front with Mr Dissolved Putty. a little more tweaking is required but nothing major.

I then added a strip of .010"x.10" to either side of the D.II nose. This gave me a nice straight edge to the top panel, and I filed the sides down with a small 1/2 round file to give me the "lip" so evident at the sides of the upper panel on these early Fokkers. The side panels were cut from .005" sheet and attached with Plastic-Weld. Once that is properly dry they will be sanded at the top edge to blend them in with the strips added earlier.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4091/34889165883_ce7a443d8e_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4242/34889169173_004eb007e0_c.jpg)

Thanks for looking in.

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Borsos on July 18, 2016, 06:00:47 AM: Wow, they are taking shape! Very fine, looks great!
Best regards
Borsos
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Stampesv4c on July 18, 2016, 09:44:03 AM: When building large R/C models we found out that Windsock 3 views where not correct, used the reference material and used other 3 views to draw and construct the models from. I am glad its you doing this build, I think I would have put it in the "I'll get back to it later corner" and found something else to build.
Looks good and the amount of effort you have put in will make them a good model. Love seeing others work.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on July 19, 2016, 03:01:23 AM: That is beautiful work Ian. The addition of the card and the reshaping of the fuselage sides has been worthwhile - the results are excellent and this fuselage is really shaping up. Looking forward to more of this thread.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 19, 2016, 07:04:46 AM: Thanks Stephen, David and Borsos for the feedback.
I got another good day in today. actually I started this lot last night while waiting for the Milliput to set....

I was debating whether or not to try to use the kit wings, but after trying to sand one down decided it would be quicker and easier to just make all the wings from sheet. I started cutting out the blanks last night and this morning finished those off....4 blanks from 1mm sheet... (I decided to make each pair of lower wings as one piece, then just remove the centre section)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4237/34889170883_1d9d7ce1a7_c.jpg)

I then sanded down the D.I fuselage and got it much closer to what I wanted. Using the same plan as on the D.II, only correcting the drawing for the correct position of the side panels, I cut those out of .005" sheet and added them. No attempt was made at trying to get the sheet to follow the curves, I simply added the side pieces, a touch of filler around the front, top, and bottom edges, and blended them in with the rest of the nose. It looks good so far, although of course the real teller will be when I get some primer on....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4009/34889165203_e3f52bc6d0_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4043/35698474245_127065d89d_c.jpg)

My last task for today was to start on the upper wings, and figure out how I was going to create the raised centre section. From what I could see in pics, the wing was level with the centre section all the way to the front spar, where the wing started curving down - the centre section stayed straight, thereby giving the impression that it was raised. So after sanding the wings down to the correct thickness and rounding off the edges, I made 2 small cuts with a razor saw, one at each side of the centre section, then bent the leading edges of the wings down. The plan was to use my PE bending tool, but the wing kept popping out so I got high-tech and used pliers! That seemed to work really well, so both of those were completed the same way....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4067/35698467815_71ae485461_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4147/35698463295_48db629338_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4135/35529749332_39e6682451_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4278/35311528270_2e4a2c0d9b_c.jpg)

The edges of the cuts were chamfered and the centre section was thinned slightly to emphasise its raised lip.

Next up, the lower wings....

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on July 20, 2016, 12:11:23 AM: You have done an amazing job of making those fuselages look brilliant! Your wings are absolutely beautiful!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on July 20, 2016, 02:40:07 AM: "The plan was to use my PE bending tool, but the wing kept popping out so I got high-tech and used pliers!"

Another example of how simple solutions are frequently as good as, if not better than, high tech ones. A man after my own heart. From what I can see Ian you have succeeded well in getting the wing shape that you wanted - and that is what really matters. I am all for Heath-Robinson solutions - I use them all the time!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: gbrivio on July 20, 2016, 06:18:45 AM: Excellent work with your models.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 20, 2016, 02:06:08 PM: Thanks folks!
I would have posted more pics but I got hacked today: I can't access my laptop as it now needs a password that I don't know, I have had to call my bank to cancel my cards, and freeze my online account, as there was over $2,000 dollars of unauthorised transfers attempted! Hopefully I've caught it in time, but what a hassle! If you get a call from "Microsoft" turn your computer off immediately - they took over my screen and I had no control - and I didn't send them any info about logging in to my laptop!!

Anyway, I finished the wings today. A little "washout" was added to the tips, and some very discreet scalloping added to the trailing edges by wrapping some fine sandpaper around a syringe.

Hopefully I can get some more pics up soon...

Ian

Here are the pics of the completed wings. I won't be adding rib detail as the pics I have don't show much on the real thing, so in this scale the ridges would be so small as to not be worth the effort.

My high-tech scalloping tool....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4118/35698472685_fdff852ff7_c.jpg)

and the results...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4058/35311520940_0021e98231_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4130/34857764244_9e2784118c_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4037/34889176213_f3f2c0c995_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4077/35698461915_6977c78779_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4066/35529712372_65e4900ce7_c.jpg)

I'm more than happy with those! Now, off to the bank to get my accounts unfrozen, then take my laptop in to get it repaired....what a day!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Borsos on July 21, 2016, 01:00:13 AM: Oh no, man, what bad news. I wish you all the best!
But the Fokkers get better and better!
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lcarroll on July 21, 2016, 01:17:07 AM: What a wonderful world we live in, I just shake my head!! I hope you got it in time, Ian, and the hassle ends here, you don't need this sort of thing on your plate right now. And, like Borsos, I gotta say those Fokkers are looking better with every post!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on July 21, 2016, 01:48:31 AM: My sympathies too Ian - bank robbers do not need to go to the bank these days. I do not bank online for just those reasons but I am aware that not everyone can arrange their affairs that way. Hope you stopped them in time - that is a lot of money at risk.

Just love your "high tech" tool - it did the job really well and shows what can be done with a little thought and imagination. Bravo!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on July 21, 2016, 10:34:53 PM: Really nice work on the wings and scallopes! I hate these new fancy High tech tools. I can remember when a simple wood dowel worked 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 23, 2016, 05:59:05 AM: Thanks for the sympathies gents! I have now got new bank accounts, credit cards are on the way, and my cell phone has a new number. I think that covers it.....I can't believe I was stupid enough to fall for it, these guys are pretty damn convincing!

Anyway, in other news, the wings have been pinned and a test fit looks good! I shouldn't need any further work here...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4109/35329133250_80ec7d4f5f_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4029/35329134950_cb4c2920c6_c.jpg)

I was going to spray a coat of white as an undercoat on the fuselages to see if any further work was needed there, but as usual, my Aztec is clogged up...happens every time I want to spray! So it's sitting on its tail with some Lacquer thinner in it to get the gunk out. It seems that no matter how thoroughly I clean it, it is always clogged! I thought spraying was supposed to be fun.....

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on July 24, 2016, 03:10:17 AM: The fit of those wings looks good but I'll bet that the paint will show up some small points which will need attention - that seems to be what primers are for!

Glad to read that you have got everything sorted - as you write, those b……s are so convincing.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on July 24, 2016, 04:32:03 AM: Looking terrific! The fit of the wings look great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Borsos on July 24, 2016, 08:15:33 PM: There are special cleaning needles on the market, they are half a knive, half a needle and clean the hardened particles out of every airbrush. Since I use it, I don't have to soak the airbrush in thinner any more.
Borsos
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 25, 2016, 06:34:15 AM: Stephen, it was a little more than "some small points" but nothing that a quick skim of filler couldn't sort out!
Thanks, Rick, and Borsos - I cleaned out the inside of the brush again and also took the nozzle apart and that was full of gunk. I'll strip the nozzle each time in future and make sure I get the gunk at the back of the brush - it's the assembly that moves the needle which keeps seizing up, I just can't seem to get it cleaned out, despite doing it each time I spray!

Anyway, after a good cleaning session it sprayed beautifully. The seams needed attention so those were taken care of and after sanding it all down, another coat of white was applied. One or two more very minor spots were then taken care of, and then the lacing was added to both fuselages. Holes were drilled for the tail control wires, and a coat of aluminium given to the front end of the D.II in preparation for the engine. I'll be using the kit supplied white metal one, but I've removed the "push rods" and will add those using nickel silver wire.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4211/35547497072_2b030566e7_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4260/35329134500_23fd68f5a6_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4019/35547495482_89cae7f4d7_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4057/35329132730_c8c057eb50_c.jpg)

The final job today was to make all the tail feathers. I used .020" card and cut them out using stencils removed from copies of the plans. They were then sanded to their correct shapes. Similar parts were clamped together for sanding to ensure that they all matched.

Job done!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4010/35547492512_5eb7cc2378_c.jpg)

The D.I rudder and fin were cut as one piece, then separated with a sharp scalpel to ensure the curves matched.

That's it for now, thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on July 26, 2016, 12:12:52 AM: Really nice work with the PE stitching and the tail surfaces!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on July 26, 2016, 02:32:29 AM: More excellent modelling. These really are coming together well - just do not know how you can put two models together at the same time - even though they are so similar.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: GAJouette on July 26, 2016, 07:32:20 AM: Ian,
Excellent update my old friend. Keep up the high excellence.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Borsos on July 27, 2016, 09:59:19 PM: Great stuff! :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 28, 2016, 07:06:29 AM: Thanks to Rick, Stephen, Gregory, and Borsos for the comments, much appreciated!

I have had a good 2 or 3 days on these due to my jury duty yesterday being a non-event - out of 18 potential jurors, only 4 were accepted, meaning they had to let everyone go and reschedule the trial. We must be a right load of reprobates here in Cape Cod!

The D.II needed to be brought up to the same condition as the D.I, ie with the engine and cowling fitted. First objective therefore was to get the engine done. After removing the lumps representing the push rods, the engine was painted. I used the white metal one supplied with the kit. The push rods were then added using .2mm nickel silver rod, and the engine was fitted inside the cowling by resting it all on a sheet of glass and using CA glue on the ends of the cylinders inside the cowling. It is a nice snug fit, but because I thinned the edges of the cowling it looks as though there is clearance. Once that was dry I attached the whole assembly to the fuselage. It was far easier to do it this way as I had already removed the cheek fairings which were moulded on the fuselage (they were entirely the wrong shape and size), so by attaching the engine to the cowling I had a second mounting point (in addition to just the top central part of the cowling) to make it all a little more sturdy. Needless to say, a fair bit of filler was needed across the top edge to match the cowling to the top fuselage panel.....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4258/35547493532_2956ae0862_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4256/35329133700_b45d4ab0c7_c.jpg)

That then left me with the task of making some replacements for the cheek fairings - so this morning I went out and bought a small, thin sheet of basswood so I could prepare for my first ever attempt at crash moulding.....

Two males were cut and sanded from the sheet, and one female was made (to be used once from each side) to save time.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4285/35329134750_8acdba90fd_c.jpg)

The grill (broiler for you Americans) was then turned on and away I went.....I had no idea how long it would take to heat the plastic so I just took it out and tried it, put it back under for a little longer, tried again, and so on until I could push the male through sufficiently. I made one of each side and went to cut them out....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4080/35329135250_d772a03ed2_c.jpg)

I've never built a vac kit either so cutting them out was something new too, I'm very pleased with the results:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4093/34875054394_6b233d2a01_c.jpg)

Two attempts, two usable parts - I impressed myself! ;D

The insides have been painted, and when dry they will be fitted....

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 28, 2016, 11:44:34 AM: a little fine tuning with fine sandpaper was required to even the 2 pieces up, and....done!
Braces added too, I just hope they stay in place when I paint them as they're less than 1mm long!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4004/35547494402_22c8ae4995_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4286/35547494532_1c0789c9d8_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4004/35547492832_76443dc863_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4090/34875055214_f55e5c5b91_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4150/35547493002_28a3edba0c_c.jpg)

I was a little worried that I may have been a bit hasty in removing the moulded on fairings, but now they're done I'm so glad I did - I'm very happy with the results!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: ondra on July 28, 2016, 04:28:01 PM: Wow, Ian, there is some great piece of modelling going on in this thread! Great job and very inspirative, many thanks for sharing and following with great interest.

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Ernie on July 28, 2016, 08:21:40 PM: Quote from: ondra on July 28, 2016, 04:28:01 PM
Wow, Ian, there is some great piece of modelling going on in this thread! Great job and very inspirative, many thanks for sharing and following with great interest.

Cheers

Ondra

I couldn't agree more with Ondra, Ian. Amazing work, my friend!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 30, 2016, 11:54:53 AM: Ondra, Ernie, thanks for the comments!

A little more progress today. After a little filler to blend in the cheek fairings (the cowling was convex around the outer edge), I started with another first: scribing panel lines! The D.I nose was a pain, but the D.II was fairly simple with just the one panel line around the cowling.
A quick blast of Testors aluminium and we're ready for some CDL tomorrow....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4108/34875055374_b33216cd22_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4216/35547496012_f76c7f89bb_c.jpg)

I have also made some 9mm wheels and am waiting for those to arrive from Shapeways. If they are ok they will be made available. They're not intended to be 100% accurate to any specific aircraft, but are more "generic" wheels of the correct size which I hope to use on vacform kits and to replace some of the poor kit wheels from Airfix, Revell, (Merlin!) and others.....basically a replacement for the old Aeroclub metal wheels.....

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: coyotemagic on July 30, 2016, 11:56:53 AM: Lovely work, Ian! I'm really looking forward to seeing this pair completed.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on July 31, 2016, 02:54:50 AM: Excellent!

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on July 31, 2016, 06:14:37 AM: Bud, Warren, thanks for stopping by!

I'm finally getting some colour on these two. The metalwork is done, and I sprayed the CDL this morning....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4237/35329135110_717f70aafa_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4239/35329134210_5106f83416_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4104/35547496532_d35b7a3130_c.jpg)

I ordered the Dark Green and Red-Brown a week or so back, so when those arrive I'll get the upper surface done.....

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on July 31, 2016, 06:18:02 AM: I'd love to be able to do work like this one day.

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on July 31, 2016, 09:10:30 AM: Quote from: coyotemagic on July 30, 2016, 11:56:53 AM
Lovely work, Ian! I'm really looking forward to seeing this pair completed.
Cheers,
Bud

100% agreement with my Amigo!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on August 01, 2016, 05:09:40 AM: Have missed recent progress - very impressive mouldings there and you achieved them first time too! It does not always work like that but it is not nearly as difficult as it looks and there are innumerable shapes that can be moulded. The rest of the builds are really coming on well - people will be hard pressed to believe that these are kits and not scratch builds.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on August 06, 2016, 06:24:50 AM: Thanks Warren, Rick, and Stephen - another step closer....

I finally received the Misterkit paints I had been waiting on...and decided not to use them! The Albatros red-brown was too light for my liking and the Fokker Olive Green was way too bright. I ended up using Tamiya XF64 red-brown and Pollyscale Fokker dark green. I think it looks pretty good - it may not be perfect but I'm certainly happy with them. If anyone has any details of matches they use for the early colours I'd love to hear.

So here's how they look now....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4216/34889170003_a0fda9a9b8_c.jpg)

The D.I wing is the one with the CDL patches left for the upper wing crosses. All the other crosses were applied directly on the CDL too and had no white background or edges.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4208/35659318466_fbcc76aeea_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4277/35529719412_502f4715d0_c.jpg)

The D.II fuselage was masked with tape, but all the rest was done with a piece of thin card, torn to give a slightly ragged edge, held close to the surface to give a not-quite-definite edge. I'm happy with how it's turned out although there's a little bit of touching up to do in places.

Of course I had to do a quick mock-up with the wings on.....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4278/34857665344_0df9949f49_c.jpg)

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: oldalbie on August 06, 2016, 06:59:21 AM: They are both going to look great when you finish. You're doing something spectacular with such difficult kits.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: TobyCoulson on August 06, 2016, 07:05:26 AM: Cracking paintwork
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on August 06, 2016, 07:38:56 AM: Really nice paint work Ian! Both are looking gorgeous!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: coyotemagic on August 06, 2016, 10:17:15 AM: Ooooooo, Nice! Double the pleasure, double the fun!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Borsos on August 08, 2016, 12:02:59 AM: Awesome work, Ian, just inspiring! These are going to be wonderful Fokkers!
Best wishes
Borsos
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on August 09, 2016, 03:28:07 AM: What a difference a coat of paint makes! These two are going to be handsome additions to your collection when complete - and nobody would be able to tell that they were limited run kits.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Bolman on August 09, 2016, 11:23:48 AM: Ian,
Both of these are well on their way to being true gems and surpassing my efforts on my recent Merlin build. Congrats and job well done :)

John
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Manni on August 09, 2016, 03:33:23 PM: Ian,
theese two are looking very good. I will never be able to handle such small things.
Great build and paintjob!
Manni
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: gbrivio on August 09, 2016, 03:48:19 PM: Really nice models, becoming nicer at every step. And very attractive painting schemes.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: andonio64 on August 09, 2016, 05:01:39 PM: They look very good when assembled!

Ciao

AnDonio
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Old Man on August 14, 2016, 09:54:37 AM: Excellent work, Sir.

Always had a soft spot for these early Fokker biplanes. You are making a splendid job of this.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Wolf on August 16, 2016, 11:49:51 PM: A realy inspiring WIP
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on September 01, 2016, 08:47:31 AM: Thanks for all the comments gents. I have got back onto these 2 now but no real progress to show as yet. I started to mark out the strut locations but that showed up some errors in my sanding on the D.I. I had to slightly reprofile the nose between the cockpit and engine to get the strut locations level as viewed from the side, and in line as viewed from above. Nothing major but time consuming, and I'll need to repaint the nose. I now have all the strut mounting points drilled in both fuselages and all the wings, and I've drilled cutouts for the warping wires where they exit the fuselage.

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 02, 2016, 07:36:20 AM: Back again on these two as I've just received the decals I ordered from Melius Manu (Kajetan) in Poland. Having previously prepared both fuselages, I applied the stitching decals and the custom nose art to these two today, and I must say I'm pretty pleased with how they look!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4146/35698547375_5cce0f2253_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4277/34857747164_e090dc068a_c.jpg)

I also raided the spare decal stash, and my Pegasus and Superscale sheets, and between them have come up with enough correct lettering for the D.I's serial numbers, and all the national markings except the D.II wing crosses. I may have to print my own for those as nothing I have is the right size.

Now I can get on and finish them!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: GAJouette on October 02, 2016, 09:33:27 AM: Ian,
Good Evening my old friend. Outstanding up date,love how the stitching decals came out. Are they 3D like Archer's are?
Keep up the high excellence.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 02, 2016, 10:34:16 AM: Hi Gregory, lovely to hear from you again!
The stitching decals are standard printed ones.

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: PrzemoL on October 02, 2016, 04:59:24 PM: Quote from: GAJouette on October 02, 2016, 09:33:27 AM
Ian,
Good Evening my old friend. Outstanding up date,love how the stitching decals came out. Are they 3D like Archer's are?
Keep up the high excellence.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

Quote from: IanB on October 02, 2016, 10:34:16 AM
Hi Gregory, lovely to hear from you again!
The stitching decals are standard printed ones.

Ian

To my knowledge, Melius Manu are capable of producing 3D decals, too. But these ones are indeed ordinary.

BTW, fantastic work on these two models, Ian.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on October 02, 2016, 11:11:50 PM: Both are really turning out nicely! It is getting difficult to remember the ROUGH kits they started out from!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on October 02, 2016, 11:53:55 PM: They look great Ian. Are the decals just some standard "1/72 stitching" decals, or do they go by another name? This build is looking great. What size crosses do you need? I might be able to help.

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 05, 2016, 11:44:11 AM: Thanks Rick!
Warren, the decals are printed to order by Melius Manu in Poland, standard 1:72 stitching. The crosses I need are the same style as in the pic below. with the white border, ideally 14.5 or maximum 15mm including the border.

Here is the latest. The "Fok.D" and the "151" come from the MAC Fokker D.VII sheet, the "I" and the "/16" come from the SuperScale sheet courtesy of the Fokker E.IV serials.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4147/35698545585_61f548cc4f_c.jpg)

I'm glad I decided to add the serials now, and not after the wings are on. They were VERY fiddly!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: steveb on October 05, 2016, 12:40:29 PM: Looking good!

Steve
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on October 05, 2016, 12:48:00 PM: Ian, I don't think I have any with a white border. Sorry pard!

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: andonio64 on October 05, 2016, 03:50:10 PM: They're taking life! Great couple of birds!

Antonio
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on October 05, 2016, 10:43:44 PM: Ian, Continuing to get better with each update! I still have some odd 1/72nd decals so I will check the stash.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on October 06, 2016, 02:34:13 AM: Only just caught up with these: the nose markings are really great but the othe markings are first class too. A lovely pair of models in the making here. They will be terrific when they are finished.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: xmald on October 06, 2016, 03:55:33 AM: The fuselages look great! I`ll be following your thread closely!
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: jeroen_R90S on October 06, 2016, 04:21:38 AM: Fantastic work, especially when you think of those lumps of plastic you started with!
If you can post the size you need, I can have a look in my decal stash, as well to see if I have some of that size. :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 07, 2016, 11:47:23 AM: Thanks everyone!

I think I'm going to use some borderless crosses and paint the white edge, just as would have been done originally. I'll see how that looks...the undersides are borderless anyway so it would make sense..

I have now attached the lower wings to both of these, and added the Spandau to the D.II - I'll wait until the struts and exhaust are fitted to the D.I before I put the MG on.
I also tried to make a start on the cabane struts, but after doing one, then dropping it and losing it to the carpet monster, I decided that I should leave it alone and come back later....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4082/34857745774_0d152b4bda_c.jpg)

I have also made up and attached the radiators to the D.I..

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4119/35698543275_87e67e70e6_c.jpg)

Back to work tomorrow so probably no updates for a few days.

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on October 07, 2016, 12:08:44 PM: Ian,
Both are looking fantastic! Looking forward to your progress. I am just coming off of a work rotation so just the opposite of you ;)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Manni on October 07, 2016, 03:05:34 PM: These two are looking great.
Manni
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on October 07, 2016, 07:40:49 PM: Great work Ian, I especially like your metal work on the cowling of the D.I.

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: gbrivio on October 07, 2016, 09:09:04 PM: I love the way these beauties are coming out.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: coyotemagic on October 08, 2016, 01:45:17 AM: Truly lovely, Ian!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on October 08, 2016, 03:18:06 AM: Excellent progress Ian. Both are looking really fine - a wonderful and unusual pair.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 09, 2016, 06:28:41 AM: Thanks to everyone for the positive feedback, it's very much appreciated!

I had a very productive afternoon today, managing to complete something I hadn't been looking forward to: the cabane struts!

I used 0.016" brass rod to give them a little strength and I'm very happy with the result. One slight hiccup in that I had drilled the middle holes on the D.I slightly too far back, and measured for the rear holes from there, so the rear struts, which should be vertical, didn't touch the upper wing! An easy fix, I just drilled new holes a little further forward, but annoying.

Here's the structure:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4231/34857743344_1e7d25f55d_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4106/35698538295_bc14fe9095_c.jpg)

and the result with the wings just clipped into place on the ends of the struts:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4240/35698535785_3d55edc822_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4115/35698541495_b86833270e_c.jpg)

all square!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4281/34857740794_e6c8f3a081_c.jpg)

and the D.II

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4139/35698533235_4b95382a85_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4049/34857741814_dfa83df9df_c.jpg)

Tomorrow's challenge (I switched shifts with another pilot for tomorrow and Monday so can get some extra bench time!) will be to remake the D.I exhaust to fit around the struts.....

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on October 09, 2016, 07:51:43 AM: Terrific progress and both are really coming together well!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on October 09, 2016, 08:16:16 AM: This just gets better and better Ian! Magnificent work. I could never pull this off.

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: coyotemagic on October 09, 2016, 09:46:01 AM: You are a true Magician, Ian!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Juan on October 09, 2016, 10:54:50 AM: Congrats on the work thus far, they are show stoppers.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: oldalbie on October 09, 2016, 01:13:49 PM: Your build just reinforces the fact that even the "sows ear" can be made into a silk purse. The two planes are coming along wonderfully.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: andonio64 on October 09, 2016, 06:17:32 PM: Fantastic I love them!!!
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: ondra on October 09, 2016, 11:43:47 PM: Great job, Ian! They are both turning into small beauties.

What do you use for bending the brass rods with such accuracy? Really impressive.

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on October 10, 2016, 01:33:52 AM: Quote from: ondra on October 09, 2016, 11:43:47 PM
What do you use for bending the brass rods with such accuracy? Really impressive.

Yes, I'd like any advice and instruction on that too.

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on October 10, 2016, 03:54:26 AM: Holes in the wrong places….. been there, done that! Those wings are struts look magnificent! Bravo! 2 real gems in the making here.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 10, 2016, 01:06:02 PM: Thanks everyone for the kind comments, much appreciated!
As for the strut technique, I'm afraid it's really nothing too fancy: a steel ruler and a pair of long-nose pliers, plus a lot of trial fitting. It certainly helped that the holes in the upper wing gave a snug fit, so I could fit the two supporting struts at the front, then clip the wing on to check the alignment. It literally would stay in place with just those two and no other help. Once I had those two struts in place, the rear ones were simply cut to fit the gap!

Today I tackled the exhaust. I started with an Aeroclub item, and removed the individual stubs one by one, drilling the exhaust and fitting a piece of brass rod as each one was removed so that the spacing was kept.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4075/34857738934_fc45b34288_c.jpg)

I also chopped off the rear end to shorten it a bit....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4280/35698531175_91ab466afb_c.jpg)

and the end result:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4132/35698530485_d2d484f42e_c.jpg)

So the next job is to fit the Spandaus and the cabane rigging wires, and make the rest of the struts.

Thanks for watching!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on October 10, 2016, 01:14:00 PM: Ian, you are a modeling machine!!! How did you achieve the mottled look on the aluminum cowling sir?

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on October 10, 2016, 11:03:32 PM: Excellent work on the exhaust Ian!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 10, 2016, 11:54:57 PM: Warren, I just used a very fine brush and Testors "steel" over the original Testors "aluminium". It's far from perfect, but does the job in this scale, giving the desired impression!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on October 11, 2016, 12:43:15 AM: Thanks Ian, I'm trying to collect "methods" of doing this.

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on October 11, 2016, 02:03:23 AM: Very impressive exhausts - and it looks the part on the model. You really are the master when it comes to super-detailing kits.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 12, 2016, 07:45:12 AM: Thanks for the comments gents, although I certainly don't think I'm any kind of master - there are a few on this forum who put far more detail into 1:72 models than I ever intend to!

After getting the exhaust sorted out, the next step was adding the MG's and ammo guides. That was done after opening up the slot I'd cut in the D.I as I couldn't get the gun to sit low enough. I also added the "wires" for the cabane bracing while I could still get at the holes I'd drilled.

Then the next big step - the upper wings were attached to the cabane structure.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4257/34857737204_8f8d42d018_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4213/34857736814_20c361c9a8_c.jpg)

The cabane rigging was then connected up and the coolant header tank and pipe were added to the D.I

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4084/35698527865_dd6ef5e0b5_c.jpg)

Last job today was to make the rest of the wing struts. I used .015" plastic rod and glued strips of .015 x .030 strip to them.

I now have two sets of struts which just need to be chamfered down along the rear edge, then painted.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4071/34857735824_43963446d9_c.jpg)

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on October 12, 2016, 08:44:54 AM: Great progress!

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: steveb on October 12, 2016, 11:52:40 AM: I love seeing these updates! The metal finish on the nose is great. What brand of machine guns are those? Seeing how thick the kit struts are on my current build, I think I'll eventually have to try brass, because yours look in-scale.

Steve
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 12, 2016, 11:57:44 AM: Thanks guys!
Steve, the guns are MiniWorld. They can be a little difficult to find, but they're well worth the money. I try to replace all my kit armament with them now.

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Borsos on October 12, 2016, 02:36:42 PM: Wow, these kits are almost finished. They actually look great, not only the MiniWorld MGs add to their beauty but really outstanding modeling skills. Very nice!
Borsos
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on October 12, 2016, 11:27:25 PM: Impressive and clever method of creating those struts! You are getting closer every day!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on October 13, 2016, 03:41:59 AM: I too like the look of those struts - they are an unusual shape but you have devised an excellent way of representing them.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 13, 2016, 10:53:54 AM: Thanks to Borsos, Rick,and Stephen for the feedback!

I had another very fruitful day today. I got the struts painted and attached, and also managed to add all the rigging, except the 2 warping wires that connect each side on each of them!

Here's the during:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4206/35311480990_7b6b9536bb_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4144/35698525595_bda69ed692_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4236/35311487280_aaa9a37228_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4017/35567964921_9f4c336545_c.jpg)

and the after:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4148/35311484550_8b84abfa58_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4277/35311479790_e2def74c92_c.jpg)

I will need to make up 8 very small pulleys for the cross-over warping wires, which is why they have been left for now.....that will be next!

Thanks for looking in,

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: PrzemoL on October 13, 2016, 04:38:18 PM: Fine rigging job. Both are getting together nicely. And quickly!
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Manni on October 13, 2016, 04:46:32 PM: It is looking fantastic, what you show us here. Very nice build and the rigging looks good, too.
Manni
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Juan on October 13, 2016, 11:23:18 PM: The Dr. is in. Surgery successful, patient doing fine (actually outstanding). Great rigging.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on October 14, 2016, 04:14:12 AM: That rigging is greg. I do not bother with the small pulleys unless they are in a very visible location as i think that they look too large…. May have to think again!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 15, 2016, 07:19:54 AM: Many thanks everyone!

The little pulleys were just as fiddly as I knew they would be, but they're done....

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4090/34857771584_501959b5d1_c.jpg)

and the rigging on the wings is now finished:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4261/35311533060_02b0e02935_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4285/35311532230_9e5c38500b_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4277/34857768954_9d2fe5d284_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4210/35311530390_b1676402e1_c.jpg)

The nice thing about wing-warpers is there is so much less rigging than on a type with ailerons, so that part has been done fairly quickly.

Next up will be some touching-up on the wings, then I'll make a start on the landing gear.

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: TobyCoulson on October 15, 2016, 06:00:13 PM: Nice work so far Ian. I do like those stitching decals. Do they come in other sizes apart from 1/72?
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 16, 2016, 12:13:19 AM: Thanks Toby, the decals are printed to order. They can be in whatever size/colour you want.
Here's his page, I don't think the English version is up and running yet....

http://www.meliusmanu.pl/en/

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on October 16, 2016, 03:24:25 AM: Those pulleys looked really fiddly but they add a touch to the model. I agree that wing warpers are easier to rig - unless of course they are a pusher, in which case it does not seem to make a difference!
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 16, 2016, 12:15:48 PM: Stephen, I have a bunch of pushers in the stash and am really looking forward to getting started on them. The rigging will certainly be a challenge!

As for these two little ones, I spent today bending .015" brass wire for the undercarriage and then glued strips of .015 x .030 plastic to them to create the fairings.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4108/34889302903_f1c1f0de96_c.jpg)

They were then fitted without any major problems

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4215/34857819034_283975bb48_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4254/35311569230_ba5840d187_c.jpg)

A quick lick of Mr Dissolved Putty on the seams and they should be ready for the axles and spreader bars tomorrow.

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on October 17, 2016, 06:23:16 AM: I really like your method of making struts and undercarriage legs with wire and card. I must give this a try because it looks as though that is quite strong when it is glued into place.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on October 17, 2016, 07:47:00 AM: Continuing to be a terrific dual build! Your undercarriage looks awesome....and strong!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 17, 2016, 11:07:04 AM: Thanks to Stephen and Rick for the comments.
The struts are entirely plastic strip and rod, they do bend a lot but are plenty strong enough when rigged. On my Short 184 I used plastic strip with brass rod inlaid at the ends and had problems with the rod coming unstuck both while fitting the struts and after the struts were fitted. I think I'll use the plastic rod in future as it is less prone to breaking and can still be bent to fit the struts. The undercarriage is very strong with the brass rod as its core and that is my primary method for undercarriage legs.

The undercarriage is now all done and painted with the exception of the tail skids and wheels. I'm going to use my own design for the wheels which I had printed at Shapeways. If they look ok I'll make them available to all!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4096/34889298483_b5e0e95b85_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4254/35698595165_2ed6f36146_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4214/34889296873_ff79fbe1a4_c.jpg)

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Juan on October 17, 2016, 09:35:26 PM: Amazing and outstanding work all around, and even more so in 1/72. Bravo
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Manni on October 18, 2016, 04:38:22 PM: Great work on the planes an on the undercarriage.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on October 21, 2016, 07:55:46 AM: I'm on the home stretch with these now!

I've spent today doing bits and pieces.....I started with the touch ups needed on the wings and then added the decals. I've given those a second coat of MicroSol to try to get rid of the silvering and will hopefully get the clearcoat on tomorrow. The rigging on the undercarriage assemblies was finished off - a little fiddly on the D.II with the 2 attachments at the lower end, but done easily enough by tying 2 pieces of mono together, trimming the single end to the right length and attaching that, then holding both the other ends and attaching them at the same time.

Tail feathers are also on, except for the D.II rudder which I still have to decal. I had to make another one of those because it stuck too well to the cocktail stick I attached it to for painting and a lump came off it!
Both props have also been finished, and the D.I's os now attached.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4131/34889295333_43bb347547_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4041/35698591265_ac60fce41e_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4286/34889292953_96d3f98a46_c.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4289/35698589175_a6df45278d_c.jpg)

I thought you might like a laugh at the kit decals too....just a tad out of register......

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4254/35698593155_65167be287_c.jpg)

There was obviously no such thing as quality control with these kits!

Wheels, windscreens, gloss coat, control horns and rigging, tail skids.....that's about it...I may even get these done tomorrow......

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: coyotemagic on October 21, 2016, 08:06:29 AM: Awesome work, Ian! So...what's wrong with those decals?
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Alexis on October 21, 2016, 09:52:40 AM: Always enjoy your work , most excellent !

Terri
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on October 21, 2016, 07:14:54 PM: Both are looking awesome with the rigging nearing completion and the gear on. Lovely work on both!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Juan on October 21, 2016, 10:24:22 PM: Excellent job, enjoyed your picture of the decals, made me laugh ;D
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lcarroll on October 21, 2016, 10:59:37 PM: Quote from: Juan on October 21, 2016, 10:24:22 PM
Excellent job, enjoy your picture of the decals, made me laugh ;D

Me as well Ian; put's a new perspective on the Roden ones we always complain about! :o ;) Nicely done, a unique pair for your collection.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on October 22, 2016, 04:28:40 AM: Just caught up with this one ……. my you move fast! Excellent undercarriage legs and rigging - well up to your usual very high standard. These are two fascinating models - and what an improvement you have made on the originals.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on November 02, 2016, 11:22:56 AM: Thanks so much for the feedback everyone, much appreciated!

Nearly done with these two now. I got the control horns, windscreens, the fittings for the wings during transport, and tailskids fitted today, along with the cables for the controls. So here's how they look as of this evening:

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5829/30722952705_a16d456d3f_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5624/30686070316_4022403ff4_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5682/30686069316_06e75ba498_b.jpg)

Tomorrow I need to trim the control cables and fit the wheels, then a little touching up is needed here and there, and they're finished!

Thanks for looking in!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on November 02, 2016, 11:47:02 PM: Once again I must mention just how impressed I am with what you have done with two kits most of us would trash! I am anxiously awaiting the touch ups and wheel attachment!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: andonio64 on November 03, 2016, 01:36:39 AM: I agree with Rick, and this is the kind of challenge I like too, although my results are far from these...
Impressive work Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on November 03, 2016, 02:44:00 AM: What Rick and Andonio have written - I totally agree. BTW what are the pins on the fuselage and lower wings for? (Just showing my ignorance….again!)

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on November 03, 2016, 08:01:13 AM: Thanks Rick, Andonio, and Stephen, much appreciated!
It's been such a gorgeous day here today I spent it in tge garden instead of modeling. I did attach the wheels though!
Stephen, the pins are for attaching the wings when the aircraft is in transit. The lower wing attaches to the pins on the fuselage and the upper wing to the pins on the lower one, resulting in what looks like a "wings folded" attitude. Pretty clever idea really!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on November 03, 2016, 10:01:43 AM: I wasn't notified of updates! >:(

Ian, just wonderful work, true modeling and not kit assembling going on here sir.

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on November 04, 2016, 12:11:41 AM: They look great . You are quite talented bringing these old out of shape kits into shape.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: IanB on November 04, 2016, 03:09:26 AM: Well folks, I have finally got to the stage where I'm going to call these finished. They won't win any prizes, but considering what I started with I'm pretty pleased with the results!
The paintwork in particular is not up to standard. It seemed that whatever I did, I just couldn't get the clear coat to go on evenly or thinly enough, with the result that it cracked as it dried. I've been using an Aztec airbrush and it's an effort just to get paint out of it, let alone have any control over how much. No matter how much I clean it after use, I can't get any paint out of it the next time I use it as the needle actuator sticks. I bit the bullet yesterday and ordered an Iwata, so hopefully it's "onwards and upwards" from here!

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5809/30124469684_c889bdd44e_b.jpg)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5633/30756456815_40090bb1cc_b.jpg)

More pics in the Completed section when I get some decent light.

Thanks to everyone who's followed along for the encouragement and support along the way!

Ian
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: Juan on November 04, 2016, 04:26:58 AM: Outstanding, have been following your build and you are to be commended. Great looking pair.
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: RAGIII on November 04, 2016, 07:30:54 AM: I have really enjoyed watching your build of these two! Outstanding results Ian!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: WarrenD on November 04, 2016, 09:09:24 AM: Ian, you have every right to be very proud of these builds.

Warren
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: andonio64 on November 04, 2016, 03:45:42 PM: Beautiful birds Ian!
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: steveb on November 05, 2016, 03:43:10 AM: Congrats on getting these done! They really came out nice, especially considering what you started with (plastic lumps) :P I'm really enamoured with the look of the D.I, but it's more work than I care to do at this moment.

Steve
Title: Re: Fokker D.I & D.II double build. Merlin, 1:72
Post by: lone modeller on November 05, 2016, 09:28:53 AM: Wonderful pair of models. Unusual subjects but well worth the effort Ian, the more so as what you started with was unpromising to say the least. A fine example of your modelling skill.

Stephen.