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Title: Belgian Cockade Yellow
Post by: Captain Slower on April 09, 2016, 11:50:41 AM

I will soon be working on some Nieuport Vee Strutters.  One of these will be a Belgian N 23 from a Hobbycraft N17.  As there are no Belgian Cockades in 1/32 and some of the kit Nieuport Decals are dodgy, I have ordered paint masks from Mal at Miracle Masks.  Since he will now have these in his computer he can make these for you. 

I asked him to make a set with 4 upper wing cockades, lower lower wing cockades all in the French ratios and two fuselage roundels in the British proportions.  When these arrive, I will photograph a set.  One of the nice things is to my pleasant surprise checking the data file drawings several times, the N11-16, N17,21,23 and the N24 - 27 all used the same diameter wing markings.

My question now is what shade of yellow is used in the Belgian cockade? 

Title: Re: Belgian Cockade Yellow
Post by: RAGIII on April 09, 2016, 07:42:37 PM

I don't have your answer but I will try to look into the question. I am sure others here will know. The masks sound great and I will be in for a set once they  are ready to be purchased. I have multiple Hobbycraft , Special Hobbies , and Roden Nieuports to build! Is there a web site for Miracle Masks?
RAGIII

Title: Re: Belgian Cockade Yellow
Post by: WarrenD on April 11, 2016, 12:54:15 AM

Thanks for getting him to make some Captain Slower, although I'm sure I'll find a way to misalign them when using them.  ???  Are these vinyl or kabuki tape? I'm sure he won't have a problem downsizing them to 1/72nd, no?

As to the yellow, I've no idea.

Warren

Title: Re: Belgian Cockade Yellow
Post by: Borsos on April 11, 2016, 06:29:44 AM

Can this be of any help?
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/image_zpsb0mcohts.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/image_zpsb0mcohts.jpeg.html)
It's a Belgian training machine.
Looks like a quite light yellow shade.
Borsos

Title: Re: Belgian Cockade Yellow
Post by: Captain Slower on April 11, 2016, 07:01:01 AM

Here is the website for Miracle Masks.  I plan to draw lines for aligning to ribs wing edges et al.

http://www.freewebs.com/miraclemasks/

Title: Re: Belgian Cockade Yellow
Post by: RAGIII on April 11, 2016, 08:29:01 AM

Thanks for the link. Added to my favorites now.
RAGIII

Title: Re: Belgian Cockade Yellow
Post by: Rob_Owens on April 15, 2016, 05:09:03 AM

Perhaps because it lies next to the red in the flag & roundels, the shade looks to me to be more on the orange (say, Camel F1 yellow) end than the lemon end. . .
I did roundels cut from solid-color decal material once on a 1/28 Revell Camel (Olieslagers' Sk7), and the lemon yellow decal on top of the red looked just about right to me.
Hth, Rob

Title: Re: Belgian Cockade Yellow
Post by: Captain Slower on April 18, 2016, 07:50:58 AM

The Nieuport Data File gives the US Federal Standard number of FS 13432 which correspond with Interwar Wing yellow for US Aircraft.  Will have to make a study.