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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Borsos on February 16, 2016, 06:22:26 AM
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Hello,
at last I send som pics of my recent build: The Albatros C III in 1/48 from Special Hobby. Sorry, I've got no pics of the box or the sprues, just take a look here:
http://www.hyperscale.com/2010/reviews/kits/sh48090reviewrb_1.htm
It's a fine kit but there are some minor issues. Looking at pictures of the finished kit made by others and comparing the parts to the drawings in the WDF, it's evident that the cockpit opening is much too small and the wheels are too fat. That turns this workhorse into looking like a Brauereigaul (sorry, no way to translate this... :) )
I widened the cockpit and replaced the wheels with those from an Eduard Pfalz D IIIa kit, that have the proper diameter. I thinned down all edges to increase scale effect and scratchbuilt some parts like the seat belts and the Telefunken FT in the otherwise quite well done interior. And I replaced the kit's engine with a resin one from Pavla.
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/image_zpsblwult3w.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/image_zpsblwult3w.jpeg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/image_zpsz9evvh3n.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/image_zpsz9evvh3n.jpeg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/image_zpsmsjjawns.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/image_zpsmsjjawns.jpeg.html)
For the wood I used Uschi van der Rosten's wood decals and gave them a preshading and a filter of brown oil paint. For the CDL wings I wanted to try something else and used Aviattic's CDL decal paper. It takes its time to use it over some preshading (especially cutting the rib tapes – I HATE decaling rib tapes..), but I like the effect for a well worn battleplane flying in the battle of Verdun for an artillery spotting detachment.
No photo exists (as far as I know) from C.1110, this interpretation is based completely on written reports. I'll finish this story as soon as I finished the kit...
I hoipe you like it.
Borsos
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You are doing a superb job with this build Borsos, the Uschi wood decals look excellent as does your tail and wing shading.
Des.
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I have the kit in my stash so I`m going to follow your thread closely. You are doing a fine job with the C.III!
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Borsos,
Now that's very impressive works my friend. Your painting and decals are awesome.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Stunning work Borsos! I like the way the cross is "just" barely showing through from the upper surface!
RAGIII
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She's absolutely gorgeous, Borsos! You wood grain and CDL are truly superb. I built this one a few years back and in addition to the issues you pointed out, I found that the rear bulkhead was too far back, placing the observer's seat under the rear decking, so I moved it forward. Otherwise, I liked the kit and wouldn't mind building another. I look forward to your next update.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hi Bud,
that was my problem too. I replaced all bulkheads, which were much too thick in my opinion, with scratch build ones. This, dealing with fitting problem caused by thinning down the Walls and replacing the engine and the challenges that rose because I wanted to leave space between the actual and the fake cockpit floor to insert some brass rod for Stabilizing the lower wings made me realize that issue only after I had glued the fuselage halves together. I should have moved forward the rear bulkhead too. But I rebuilt the observers seat anyway and enlarged it. And with the Spandau installed I hope that this problem is not too prominent. So most fitting problems were caused by myself, the kit fits pretty well.
Kind regards
Andreas
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Very nice borsos!
I have to do it this year, it is il my program just after the aviatik...
I have the old Eduard. Does someone know if the spexial hobby kit is much better?
Xan
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Beautifully done Borsos. Your "worn effect" is very impressive as is the wood effect on the fuselage, you are doing some very nice work here! :o
Cheers,
Lance
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Thank you all!
I do not have the eduard kit, but this might be of some help:
http://hyperscale.com/features/2002/albatrosciiirw_1.htm
http://www.kangaspuut.net/saksalaiset/albciii2.jpg
The wings of the eduard kit seem to be a little banana-shaped (at least on both of these builts). Of course this is manageable with some hot water. And some pics of the parts show quite an amount of flash, the special hobby parts had no flash at all. I do have the eduard Hannover, which is more or less the same early generation of eduard kits, and when I compare this kit with the SH kit, then the Special Hobby kit is much better.
This aeroscale review shows the parts of the SH kit quite well:
http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=4712
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Wonderful work and painting until now.
Cheers
Martin
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Just some minor work today:
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpstgqanppr.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpstgqanppr.jpeg.html)
bank indicator and windscreen from scratch (I brought the things more in line, but this pic is better...
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshnv6zk7m.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshnv6zk7m.jpeg.html)
Some pastels on the exhaust
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpssm0k4uwm.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpssm0k4uwm.jpeg.html)
and some improving on the radiator.
Borsos
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Finaly it is looking like an airplane...
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4nodvvgt.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4nodvvgt.jpeg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpseqsv5e6e.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpseqsv5e6e.jpeg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsalxzaxje.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsalxzaxje.jpeg.html)
Borsos
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She's looking spectacular Borsos, the colours for the CDL are extremely well done as is the shading.
Des.
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Stunning work Borsos! I like the way the cross is "just" barely showing through from the upper surface!
RAGIII
+1 -really looking good!
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Better with each update! Lovely wood and the CDL and shading are perfect.
RAGIII
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Great finish and the woodwork is superb.
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Exellent work and painting.
Cheers
Martin
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Thank you all! I really appreciate that!
Some last minor updates:
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsm7e2kj0p.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsm7e2kj0p.jpeg.html)
Prop and armament is just loosely attached for photos...
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsj72izlif.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsj72izlif.jpeg.html)
Exhaust and Radiator are finished
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsyz1szeza.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsyz1szeza.jpeg.html)
I like carving my props out of real wood. Sadly I do not own the old Americal Gryphon set with the propeller logos. I just have the LW and they just have the new AXIAL-Logo (round "A") Is anybody having some 1/48 old Axial-Logos (these with the Axe - the A/C set contained it, LW does not) and would like to trade them?
Now the dynamo for the Telefunken FT still is missing and two claps on the fuselage just after the rear gunner emplacement (I sanded them off while sanding the fuselage...). Then comes the rigging... Next pics (hopefully) in the "Completed models" section!
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Gorgeous prop!
RAGIII
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Superb work Borsos! Your shading and CDL are gorgeous!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Borsos,
I carve most of my own props as well; what do you use for wood stock? Is it a mini plywood or do you make your own laminates? That's lovely work, especially for the smaller scale.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thank you all guys :) !!!
Lance,
that's the stuff i use:
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpswq40ziim.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpswq40ziim.jpeg.html)
It's wood veneer that I bought via ebay as a trial package of different wood types in different shades. It will last for years... They are 0,3 - 0,5 mm in thickness. I try to get pics of the real prop, look, what kind of wood shades could fit and then I glue them together using carpenter glue (tinting the carpenter glue could create these 'glue-lines' of some props by the way... I have to try that sometimes...) then I squeeze it until the glue has set using a screw clap and albion alloys' fantastic "strutter" (it's for making biplane struts out of brass tube - but works for this purpose as well: http://www.redfroghobbies.com/prods/the-strutter.jpg)
Kind regards
Borsos
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Tamiya dull clear from the rattle can decomposes Aviattic-decals:
I gave this bird a last shot of Tamiya dull clear from the rattle can. I use Tamiya paints for years and never was disappointed. But look what it did to my wings covered in Aviattic linen decals:
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsp2rp3yoe.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsp2rp3yoe.jpeg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpskcrsdd8h.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpskcrsdd8h.jpeg.html)
Here I already tried to remove some of the misery...
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsgemzntjs.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsgemzntjs.jpeg.html)
I'd forward this post to the hall of shame... At the moment I don't see a way to save this model.
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Tamiya rattle cans are lacquer arent they? Probable too hot straight from the can.
Steve
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What a shame, Andreas! :'( Such a beautiful model! Please don't scrap it, though. I know it's frustrating to redo work you've already done, but this model is too good to end up in the bin. Just pry off the damaged wing and tail surface pieces and refinish them. I nearly abandoned my C.III about halfway through because I was dissatisfied with my engine after it was already closed up in the fuselage. After a short break, I came back to it, reopened the cowling and rebuilt the engine. I'm glad I did. She's now one of my old favorites. There's something very special about the early Albatros B and C types.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Albatros%20CIII%20project/DSC00548.jpg)
Cheers,
Bud
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Dear Bud,
thank you for your encouraging words, that's really very kind! No I won't scrap it, I'm thinking about a strategy to solve that problem... somehow...
I wanted to build a battle-worn plane, but not that battle-worn.
I love your Albatros, it looks wonderful! It's a Verdun sheme too :) And I absolutely agree what you said about the early B and C Albatrosses.
To prevent any misunderstanding: I do not want to blame Tamiya or Aviattic for what happened, it was just my own silly fault. These rattle cans are Acrylics too, it's the same stuff they sell in bottles. But there comes much more out of it than shooting it with an airbrush. And Tamiya acrylics are diluted with isopropanol - so that "much more" was obviously too much. If I had used my Revell acrylics, diluted with window cleaner, it would not have happened. But do you know the Gunze rattle cans? If you use them at first it looks like you have oversoaked your model with clear, but then, when it dries, it gets perfectly smooth. I had expected that the tamiya stuff would work the same way...
Best wishes
Borsos
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Borsos,
I just caught up with this post again, what a shame your finish got ruined. I hope you can find a solution, it's such beautiful work.
Thanks for answering my question on your prop construction technique, we use the exact same materials and method! I use a wood vice to clamp the layers once glued.
Don't trash the Albie, a modeller of your talent will find a way to recover from this misfortune 8)
Cheers,
Lance
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Gee that`s a bugger... I really hate such moments! I hope you will manage to work it out since it was coming along really great.
I think the prop`s looking very good. I will keep my fingers crossed!
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Truly a shame about the clear coat mishap! I am sure you will come up with a strategy to fix your gorgeous Albatros!
RAGIII
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I clear coat all my models w dull cote.it will destroy decals if not applied properly . my method is as follows. After I'm finished paint and decal, I coat with future(klear) leave dry for several hour or a day. Then build up very very sparse light coats of dull cote.you must let each thin coat completely dry. After about 4 thin coats cure you can spray thicker coat. Sometimes especially if decals are thick it can develop a raised area over decals. I use fine abrasive paper or pads to sandit back and repeat the process.if done right you end up with decals that appear to be painted on with a consistent matte coat overall.
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Operation rescue:
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsybry40kr.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsybry40kr.jpeg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsqpqnsuol.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsqpqnsuol.jpeg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsxi7aslne.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsxi7aslne.jpeg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpstixxmmuw.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpstixxmmuw.jpeg.html)
If I hadn't rigged the right side of my model yet I would have the wing stripped off paint too, but now I just repainted cosmetically. At last I gave it a little more mud splatter than I had intented to do. But an observation airplane at Verdun in the spring of 1916 prepairing the big offensive went through a lot of mud...
You can see the difference in shade between the new and the original stabilizer. Well, I'll have to live with that. It was obvious that the original shade wouldn't be replicatable...
I wanted to finish that built immediately, but I run out of brass rod for the rigging. For luck Bob's buckles are delivering as fastly and as reliable as always, but for Eastern there's no postage delivery here... So at least I achieved the status quo ante.
Thank you all for your encouraging words and hints! Now I'm happy that I didn't throw it into the bin.
best wishes
Borsos
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It was a near disaster but you managed to bring this model back to life again, you have done a great job with the repairs and the model is looking really nice.
Des.
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It was a near disaster but you managed to bring this model back to life again, you have done a great job with the repairs and the model is looking really nice.
Des.
I can't say it any better than Des!
RAGIII
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Borsos,
Like the others I am glad you resisted the urge to bin this one. Really nice work despite the troubles. Looks lovely.
Chris
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Well.... finally I got her finished. Pew! Tomorrow I'll post more pics (and the story behind this airplane) in the "complete" section.
Thanks for your interest and your kind words!!
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsjbn6xuow.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsjbn6xuow.jpeg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfbb4qr0s.jpeg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfbb4qr0s.jpeg.html)
Borsos
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Thank you for not giving up on the Alby, Borsos! It is an absolute sublime model
and you have done a wonderful job of the build and the restoration. Bravo, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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So glad to see her finished. Well done!
Chris
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Well saved! The different shades can always be put down to replacement parts fitted due to battle damage!
Ian
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The good job, just you and we will know about this disaster. ;)
After your repair nobody else will see it. ;D
Adam
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Your repair and build for this kit is exellent.
Cheers
Martin