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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Completed models => Topic started by: Borsos on February 13, 2016, 10:29:27 PM
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Hello,
I'd like to share some pics of my recently finished Nieuport 16 in 1/48 from Eduard. I portrayed N. 965 of Escadrille N23 in 1916, that was flown by Sergeant Marcel Garet, Adjutant Maxime Lenoir and Capitaine Louis Robert de Beauchamp at the Verdun-Front in 1916. As far as I could research, it took part in the first Le-Prieur-Attack against German Drachen-Ballons on May 21st. Again I used two photographs on the website of Denis Albin as reference: http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escadrille/page_centaine.htm. The figure is from Alley Cat, the rockets have scratch built tubes and the propeller. is carved from real wood.
The kit is one of the best I've ever built and it's very sad, that Eduard is not offering it at the moment. I decided to use the 4 color camouflage according to the arguments of Alan Toelle.
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/IMG_0401%20Kopie_zpsad0mzvbr.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/IMG_0401%20Kopie_zpsad0mzvbr.jpg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Fertig1%20Kopie_zpswz6uv4hg.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Fertig1%20Kopie_zpswz6uv4hg.jpg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Fertig3%20Kopie_zps4ynpmoia.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Fertig3%20Kopie_zps4ynpmoia.jpg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Fertig6%20Kopie_zpsqje6m1jl.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Fertig6%20Kopie_zpsqje6m1jl.jpg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Fertig8%20Kopie_zpstcamepn1.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Fertig8%20Kopie_zpstcamepn1.jpg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/IMG_0268%20Kopie_zpsa3jzjzeu.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/IMG_0268%20Kopie_zpsa3jzjzeu.jpg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/Innenraum1%20Kopie_zpsggd10o1e.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/Innenraum1%20Kopie_zpsggd10o1e.jpg.html)
(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/IMG_0181%20Kopie_zps5pjpfi5d.jpg) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/IMG_0181%20Kopie_zps5pjpfi5d.jpg.html)
Because I'm not able to paint plastic propellers making them look like real wood, I tried to carve my own propellers out of real wood. I find it much simplier... Sadly there are no French propeller logo decals in 1/48. LW, come on, add some to your great offerings of British and German logos!!
More in-progress-pics and a short article about the airbattle of Verdun (sadly only in German):
http://originalundmodell.de/bauberichte/nieuport_16.htm
I hope, you like it.
Borsos
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This is outstanding modelling - for a first scratch build it is amazing indeed. Beautifully finished and presented - I am totally carried away by this - and in 1/48 too where the minor mistakes show and details really matter. Brilliant.
Stephen.
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Hi,
there's an issue I almoust forgot: What I left off are the cables that fired the rockets. I could find several pictures how these cables run from the rockets to the V-Struts, but not how they were lead from there into the cockpit. Has anybody an idea?
Thank you!
Borsos
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Hello Borsos.
Alfred! I of the plane I would like to represent!
Congratulations!
I did you do the drawing printing this:
(http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escadrille/Insignes/023_perso_Alfred.jpg)
Or with a cutting plotter ?
as I told you in my topic, According to Klaeylé the nieuport were painted in blue sky in underside after the n°900
The propeler is beautiful too but you should cut the extremity to represent a "Levasseur"
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/14/14/01/64/leva4510.jpg)
Xan
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Yes, and again: Waaah, I had a 50/50 chance to get it right and I coose the wrong path... Well, in this case Jon Guttmann and Bob Perason in WDF Special Nieuport Flyers of the Lafayette seem also to be unaware of this because N. 11XX, N. 1120, 1131, 1290 and 1292 have CDL undersides there. And in Wilbergs book Reservats N. 959 has CDL undersides too. And so, if these specialists went wrong, I can live with it. Repainting the undesides of my "Alfred" seems impossible for me. ... And I'm sure, on that special day in early 1916, when they finished N. 964 in the afternoon at the Nieuport factory and they had only one airplane to paint before dinner, their spraygun startet to spit and they sadly run out of blue paint. And because supply just arrived on the morning of the following day, they finished the undersides of N. 965 in clear doped linen ... ;)
Regarding the symbol, I actually took this, printed it as big as possible, took a black pen, changed it according to the photos and scanned it again. I think there were teeth in this skull, not just a line and some letters seemed to be a little different, as the bones (I'll send a pic later!)
Thanks about the propeller, you are right, the tips are too round. I should have taken a picture of an actual Levasseur, not the drawings in the datafile...
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(http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p640/borsos/AlfredII_zpsrzlqxcqh.png) (http://s1159.photobucket.com/user/borsos/media/AlfredII_zpsrzlqxcqh.png.html)
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I have just found my new avatar, thanks!
Xan
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Borsos,
Your Nieuport model looks great!
Regards
Dave
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Thank you Dave!
Hi Xan, it's an honor :)
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(http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2016/02/15//16021507112118634313978320.jpg)
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Yes, that's one of the two pictures I had :)
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The other one
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One of the sweetest Nie.16's I've ever seen. Spectacular!
Cheers,
Bud
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Truly great Niueport model with excellent standard of finish. Love the flying helmet and goggles!
Regards
Dave
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Beautiful job, Borsas! The little Nieuports are great and your model is
as Bud said, spectacular! Well done, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thank you all very much for your kind words! I really appreciate them :)
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Wow another great Nieuport! Seems to be popular birds lately. Just don't worry too much about the clear doped undersides for this aircraft, as Alan Toelle stated in his article that the 14 May 1916, meeting between SFA and STA decided: 'Avions Nieuport... Teindre en bleu clair dessous d'avions camoufles par dessus. - C'est fait (Tint the undersurfaces of the camouflaged airplanes light blue)'. So based on this date and that Bert Hall's N.1208 was delivered at the end of May 1916, he concludes the light blue began around N.1201. I know that Xan has a reference that puts the light blue much earlier in production numbers but I have not seen a source for that data and will stick with Toelle's 4 color upper surfaces with light blue undersides beginning around 1201.
Dave
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One of the sweetest Nie.16's I've ever seen. Spectacular!
Cheers,
Bud
I could not have said it better
Des.
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One of the sweetest Nie.16's I've ever seen. Spectacular!
Cheers,
Bud
I agree with my Amigo Bud. Beautiful Nieuport!
RAGIII
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Super build. Some very nice little touches like the goggles on the wing really add to the whole effect. Great work.
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Beautiful stuff ! Gongrats !
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I always liked a fragile construction of this plane. Simply fantastic work.
Regards,
Paul