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Title: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: RAGIII on December 12, 2015, 09:43:52 AM
Just looked at my stats. No wonder I haven't finished anything this year  ;D To be honest though I wouldn't have it any other way. I really enjoy all of the interaction with my fellow members. I live in a rural area and there really is no one here to talk and share models with. The Forum fills a void that replaces my former club membership and Managing a Hobby Shop way back when. I will however finish more next year!

RAGIII

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Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: Des on December 12, 2015, 10:06:28 AM
I am very much like you Rick, I also live in a rural area, a very small coastal town where I think I am the only one who builds models. Like you, my interaction with the forum members is a great release, I have formed so many friendships some of whom I phone on a regular basis. I owned and ran a hobby way back and had a great relationship with a lot of my customers, but those days are long gone.

Your stats speak volumes as to your participation with the forum and its members, we would all be far worse off if your were not here.

Des.
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 12, 2015, 11:30:35 AM
Even though I'm in The Los Angeles area which is far from being a rural, I only know one other modeler personally who has built a WnW kit. He's who infected... err, introduced me to them a few years ago.

@Rick, your story is the same as mine. This forum is the "model club" in virtual form that connects us hardcore fans of a very specific subculture who would probably never meet otherwise.

And I know my stats. I haven't finished anything either, although I'm less than a week away on my latest build! Finally!! Before the end of 2015. That counts, right! ;D

@Red Baron, I've noticed that stigma too. What's the problem people have with this hobby? Is drinking a bunch of beer while watching sweaty guys run after a ball on a field a more noble pursuit? :o

George

Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: WarrenD on December 12, 2015, 12:32:15 PM
OK, I'll chime in too.

<raises hand> I too live in a rural area (in the county seat which has a population of maybe 2,000), so yeah, no one here builds models. I only got started back up in the hobby when my work started to take more and more of a bite out of my time to the point that I haven't completed anything in a long time. Family health issues, work issues, etc. has meant no time at the bench. I promised myself this year I'd make some time for "me", but it just didn't float. (Just learned at work this week that our workload will increase as well. Oh joy.)  Due to more "real life" I requested Des remove me from the French Group Build. It's my sincere hope that circumstances will permit me to rejoin.

In any event, this forum and one other are the only modeling forums I frequent. I greatly value being able to see what others are doing, how they're doing it, and just get some positive mojo from the populace here.

I guess more time spent at the workbench and less time here might let me get something done.  ??? ::)

Warren
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: IanB on December 12, 2015, 12:50:44 PM
Cape Cod in winter is pretty damn rural too...but since my job just went west - my company just closed its doors, without even telling us - I should have time enough to get the Short, MoS and Muromets finished....sigh...

Ian
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: WarrenD on December 12, 2015, 01:25:32 PM
So sorry to hear that Ian. Been there fairly recently. No fun.

Warren
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: uncletony on December 12, 2015, 02:26:59 PM
I find I have X hours of psychic energy per week to put into model building. Like maybe 10 at most. Usually more like 2- 5. The rest is consumed by the two (real) jobs I have, side jobs, vagaries of life, parenting, etc. OTOH, checking in in here keeps me connected, something I can do @ work or when I am chilling...
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: WarrenD on December 12, 2015, 02:40:30 PM
We need a "like" button for this thread.  8)

Warren
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: coyotemagic on December 12, 2015, 02:54:15 PM
My stats are much like yours, Rick, and my reasons for spending so much time here are similar.  However, I'm semi-retired, working only 16 hrs/wk and my lap-top sits right on my work bench, so I can check in here while I wait for glue to set, decals and paint to dry (like now), etc.
I've considered posting less and building more, but I just can't stay away.  Y'all are just so damned entertaining.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: kornbeef on December 12, 2015, 04:05:29 PM
Reading your post Rick made me realise I'm not alone with my abbysmal lack of finished kits any year.  I'm glad to see so many of us owning up to being much the same.
I live rurally too and don't know of anyone in my immediate area that builds. I'm sure there must be and a couple of forum members are reasonably local.

For a number of reasons my mojo comes and goes and I build a lot of varied subjects though WWI aviation remains my favourite.

My posts on the forum echo my ups and downs like my modelling but every day I check in and read and keep an eye on whats happening in the forum even if I don't post so much. Saying that I found my memory card for my camera so might get the Junkers Blog started this week.

Keith
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: Nigel Jackson on December 12, 2015, 04:48:25 PM
So much of this rings true for me too. I live deep in the heart of rural France, have yet to meet a local modeller, let alone one who is into the Great War ans this forum is very important to me. Thanks for starting a great thread Rick.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: lcarroll on December 13, 2015, 12:46:23 AM
   I don't get as much done as I'd like being a very slow builder and spending more time then I realised here on the Forum. Being retired and now slowed down a bit by some health issues the hobby and this Forum are often the bulk of my daily activity. I hadn't realised that the "stats" existed until I saw Rick's here and checked out my own,  :o :o :o!! Despite the shock of just how much time I spend here It's all good, like you say Rick I thoroughly enjoy the interaction with my fellow members. There is so much knowledge and experience within our membership and I learn something new here every time I log in. As for the "stigma" associated with Model Building we've all dealt with it over our experiences but it's a special interest type of activity; means a great deal to us but matters not a bit to the outsider! Thanks to Des we have a place where we can associate with people of like interests and values, and be better people for the experience!
   This past summer I had the experience of travelling to meet with four other of our members and spend several days in their company at a major show and several excellent venues of the museum variety. No surprises there, within minutes of meeting we were all completely comfortable with one another and an observer would regard the group as lifelong buddies. Friendships are often based on common interests and our Hobby is no exception. For that reason this Forum has fast become my favourite "happy place"! That all being said, it's time to get going on the latest bench project before I start to think I never really finish anything!

Cheers All!
Lance
Title: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: James on December 13, 2015, 01:44:59 AM
I only recently, maybe six years or so ago, got into World War I aviation, big time. I havent built a model in about 20 years. I need to, but it seems that I spend the majority of my time, when not at work, reading, buying books, researching, or picking up a Wingnut kit and spending most of my time here on this forum. I live in a big city, San Antonio, but I do not know anyone here who builds models. Never had the "stigma" so to speak, about building models. The "stigma" I always get,  being a metal head in that I must worship satan and do drugs and anything else  associated with listening to heavy metal.

I too feel like we are all one big family here and like Lance said, thst if we all were to meet, after about a minute we'd be really comfortable with each other and then have a beer or two, and people would think we were lifetime friends. I bet if our wives were to go and they hung out together, it would be the same for them. Only difference, we would be talking about models and wishing that someone would make such and such, while our wives would be talking about why we buy so many and wishing we would quit buying so many. 

James
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 13, 2015, 02:08:07 AM

while our wives would be talking about why we buy so many and wishing we would quit buying so many. 

James

So true, James! I've actually had this happen at model shows. The wives can't meet! They'll plot against us. We can't win that battle!! ;) ;D ;D

George
Title: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: James on December 13, 2015, 02:49:44 AM

while our wives would be talking about why we buy so many and wishing we would quit buying so many. 

James

So true, James! I've actually had this happen at model shows. The wives can't meet! They'll plot against us. We can't win that battle!! ;) ;D ;D

George

Very true George, very true.
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: Rob on December 13, 2015, 07:29:18 AM
I live in the Seattle area. There are quite a few modelers here, several clubs and a great hobby shop (Skyway). With that said, I don't have the time to devote to a club and only chat with other "live"modelers when I'm in the hobby shop. Very few are interested in WW1 aviation. Both my adult sons enjoy coming out to "Dad's workshop" and appreciate and admire what I've done. My wife has no interest whatsoever in seeing what I'm doing but having said that she has no problem with the fact that I build and encourages me to get the kits I want. I guess that makes me a pretty lucky guy. This forum fills that void for me of like-minded individuals. I learn something new every time I come here. I recently began my first online build and I'm still working out how much to post, getting good photos, etc. It's a lot different than just building the darn thing, setting it on a shelf and moving on tho the next one! My boys always ask why I have so many unbuilt models sitting around. I tell them that the fun (for me) is in the building not necessarily the finishing.
v/r,
Rob
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on December 13, 2015, 08:18:19 AM
Hi folks,

I really am well off the bench just now - I have probably had literally one 3 hour modelling evening in precisely 6 months.  I miss it, but life gets in the way and getting started again is proving difficult.  Haven't been on here either - but I like being able to dip in and out and still find friendly folks around.

I even missed the latest round of WNW releases!
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: dr 1 ace on December 15, 2015, 06:32:55 AM
Well as Rick has stated, I'm in the same boat of nothing WW I completed this year (but at least 1 OOB and a trip to the IPMS NATS) , life just got in the way this year. But likewise, the time spent here keeps the juices flowing. And 2016 can be back to normal.

Ed
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: RAGIII on December 15, 2015, 08:55:35 AM
Thanks for all of the responses guys! It is interesting how many of us are in the same situation  8) Ian, sorry to hear about your job! I am sure you will bounce back with something better!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: Ollie on December 15, 2015, 01:46:48 PM
I don't visit here as much as I use to but am now coming back with some vigor. Like 99% of you I haven't built squat, made several attempts, many shelfs of doom. I could say life got in the way but it was all me. When I started modeling back in the 70's (the decade not my age) I started in WW II aircraft and thought that was the bees knees. But after several decades I think I finally have come to grips that I've lost interest in the WW II era and now have a big interest in WW I and am truly thankful for Des and all of you to thanks for that. Additionally like most of you I'm in a small city in the Pacific Northwest (less than 15,000) and thought no one here would be interested in what I modeled. Only lately to find out that at least two of you live near by, so I now can say that I have some lads near by with the same interests as myself. That's my two cents worth. Now it's time to getting back to building something.
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on November 15, 2016, 12:07:16 AM
Just thought I would pop in and say hello.

I have barely touched a model in the last 12 months.  About 6 months ago I almost completed the pre-war German tram I was building, but wasn't happy with the quality of the assembly.  I have disassembled it (carefully) but am yet to fix the build..

No WWI stuff for ages.  I have had a really busy time with work this year and loads of stuff going on at home.  There has been occasional time for modelling but I can't get started..

Will try soon!
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: Borsos on November 15, 2016, 02:03:32 AM
These days just two things seem to count: Speed (everything has to happen faster and faster and faster....) and making money out of everything (I mean the usability of everything and everyone). In my opinion modelling is a kind of philosophical countermovement against these so-called "values". I love modelling because I can spend as much time as I want for building something and no time pressure exists. no one tells me "you have to finish that until XXX!" And I create something that has no obvious worth - economocally speaking (actually a well built model has its worth, of course, no doubt, but just for the Connaisseur!)
So what do I want to say with that: If you need two weeks or two decades to finish a model, what does it matter, if you have pure modelling fun with it?  :)

BTW: Rick, I think you would finish a model faster, if you would start just one project and no double or triple builds any more  ;)
Best wishes to you all
Borsos
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: mike in calif on November 15, 2016, 11:11:04 AM
I see a lot of my current situation reflected in many of these comments. I live outside of a big city, San Diego, and have been active in two clubs, putting on two shows a year, and at the end of this year, I'll stop all of that. I've been running around too much. I want to do some building, and just enjoy that. Coming to this forum actually helps keep me grounded(no pun intended!) as to what the better qualities in a modeling community are.
 
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: RAGIII on November 16, 2016, 12:29:41 AM

BTW: Rick, I think you would finish a model faster, if you would start just one project and no double or triple builds any more  ;)
Best wishes to you all
Borsos

No dual builds? Where would the fun be in that  ::) Seriously When I finally finish a dual build it is usually about twice as long as one would have taken. My current tri build may be better because the two Tri planes  were easy to do because of the similar assemblies. I also have spent more time at the bench in spite of my completely enjoyable time here!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: smperry on November 16, 2016, 09:01:29 AM
I can't seem to finish a model because I'm usually spending what little hobby time I have working on another model. The cycle is vicious. Work requires me to be out of town 3 or 4 days a week and that puts serious limits on long modeling sessions. A cantankerous computer makes posting a real time suck, but I do manage to check out this forum and I thoroughly enjoy seeing all the great craftsmanship and good fellowship here.
sp
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: fruibal on December 13, 2016, 11:01:54 AM
I live in Vancouver, BC and from time to time usually go to the IPMS Vancouver club, however this site has always kept my interest alive  in WWI  aircraft modeling. Fulltime job and family prevents me to post any finished models. I will discipline myself next time to finish and post my final reveal of a 1/48 Breguet XIV diorama, which I currently working on .  Hope to do it for 2017, its a promise . I don't discredit the  wonderful job  and time from Des in setting up this website for WWI modeling lovers, but it would be interesting to see those magnificent  WWI build logs posted in Youtube. There's a guy with a channel called "Scale a Ton", which has some superb WNW building logs. Love seeing someday some  of these WWI builds in Youtube. My gratitude goes to all you guys for showing the building progress. Thanks to this  I have improved my WWI building techniques, from the dreaded rigging to the wood propeller painting technique. Gracias amigos!!
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: timpivonka on December 14, 2016, 03:09:16 PM
I have made one of my 2017 New Years resolutions to finish the models I have started.  I got a little bit of an early start and finished an Eduard Albatros D-III and Siemens Schuckert.  I also completed a Peanut Scale Nieuport-11, rubber powered.  The biggest reason I don't finish is I learn something, or see a new technique or product to try on my next project, and move on to it before I finish my current projects.  Right now I have two 1/48th Camels, A Fokker D-7 and an Oeffag Albatros D-3.  In 1/32nd I have a WNW Se5a, HB W-29 and a Sopwith Tripe.  All except the Tripe are very nearly finished.   Hope to have them done soon after the new year.

Tim Pivonka
Title: Re: Why I get No Models Done
Post by: gbrivio on December 14, 2016, 04:44:44 PM
...while our wives would be talking about why we buy so many and wishing we would quit buying so many. 

James
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  ;D ;D ;D that's true!
I'm as well far from finish any model from months, but luckily I know some fellow modellers between schoolmates and collegues even if none of them shows interest in WWI subjects, but we can talk about historic planes and modelling. Lack of time,mainly because of work being the main issue in unfinishing or not starting projects, but it's not the only one. What I can see with few known exceptions is that boxes exceed built models by many times, but still I feel a builder rather then a boxed kit collector and I believe it is the same for all of us. It is part of the hobby, after all.
Cheers, Giuseppe