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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Dave W on November 29, 2015, 06:58:36 AM
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Just noticed on the WnW site, the new Albatros B.II is now listed as "coming soon". Maybe the initial stock sold out faster than expected. They do say more stock is due mid December
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia.
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I was NEARLY CLOSE to ordering one...
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Wow, they weren't kidding when they said limited stock! I'm glad I jumped at it. But this is just the initial run. There will be plenty more in mid December, but not in time to receive one by Christmas. :-\
George
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I was just about to hit the pay now button when I realised that if I did so it would probably arrive just in time to be beaten up/crushed/shook to pieces or just plain lost in the usual postal melee that occurs pre Xmas. Looks like the decision to postpone for a few weeks isn't going to make much difference now :)
Hope you get yours in time George ;)
Regards - Tug
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Hope you get yours in time George ;)
Regards - Tug
It really doesn't matter if I get it before Xmas or not. I have too many other projects on the burner anyway. :)
George
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I told my wife there was a box coming from New Zealand... just stick it under the tree when it arrives. "I know what comes from New Zealand" was the reply... ;)
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I told my wife there was a box coming from New Zealand... just stick it under the tree when it arrives. "I know what comes from New Zealand" was the reply... ;)
Tell her, "Yes, it is Lucy Lawless."
Jamie
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I really have to wonder, how many of these kits might have been snatched up by the "speculators"? I have a theory that a great number of the Sold Out Kits are the result of that particular activity, or maybe I'm just being paranoid! In the interim I ordered the Data File a few hours ago, just in case I change my mind on this one! ::)
Cheers,
Lance
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I really have to wonder, how many of these kits might have been snatched up by the "speculators"? I have a theory that a great number of the Sold Out Kits are the result of that particular activity, or maybe I'm just being paranoid! In the interim I ordered the Data File a few hours ago, just in case I change my mind on this one! ::)
Cheers,
Lance
Well, there was a limit of 2, so I can't imagine it's too rampant.
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I really have to wonder, how many of these kits might have been snatched up by the "speculators"? I have a theory that a great number of the Sold Out Kits are the result of that particular activity, or maybe I'm just being paranoid! In the interim I ordered the Data File a few hours ago, just in case I change my mind on this one! ::)
Cheers,
Lance
I hope there aren't too many WnW kits sitting on the shelves of "speculators" waiting for them to go OOP. These kits should be in the hands of modelers who will appreciate them and hopefully build them one day. I'm guilty of having a growing stash, but I'll get around to building them all, if I lived be 156 years old! ;D
George
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In the interim I ordered the Data File a few hours ago, just in case I change my mind on this one! ::)
If you ordered that from Hannants Lance you were a couple of hours ahead of me getting the last one ;) (there were only two when the 'news' broke!) but I guess they'll have more in by the time the kits arrive on the shelf.
but I'll get around to building them all, if I lived be 156 years old! ;D
Only 156 years George? Oh I wish - I'm positive I'll need more than that ;)
Tug
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Tug,
I ordered direct on the Albatros Publications Web Site, take a look on their Site, it's Number 93 and must have been updated in the past several days as the write up mentions the BII Release by Wingnuts. It was still listed as available and they receipted my order.
Cheers,
Lance
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I really have to wonder, how many of these kits might have been snatched up by the "speculators"? I have a theory that a great number of the Sold Out Kits are the result of that particular activity, or maybe I'm just being paranoid! In the interim I ordered the Data File a few hours ago, just in case I change my mind on this one! ::)
Cheers,
Lance
Well, there was a limit of 2, so I can't imagine it's too rampant.
Good point in this instance; I am just amazed at the number of Kits offered on EBAY etc. and particularly the asking prices. I keep checking to hopefully find a "Harry Tate" for less then a mortgage on my home!!
Cheers,
Lance
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I think a B.II will be a very slow seller after the initial knee-jerk rush of collectors adding anything new from WNW to their stashes. I'll probably get round to build one in a year or two's time - when it'll probably come with a free Datafile!!! ;)
Now, let's have the real Christmas surprise please and pop out that beautiful Sopwith Dolphin that discerning modellers are waiting for. :)
S
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I think a B.II will be a very slow seller after the initial knee-jerk rush of collectors adding anything new from WNW to their stashes. I'll probably get round to build one in a year or two's time - when it'll probably come with a free Datafile!!! ;)
Now, let's have the real Christmas surprise please and pop out that beautiful Sopwith Dolphin that discerning modellers are waiting for. :)
S
I agree! ;D
RAGIII
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I'm actually excited about the B.II and my purchase wasn't "knee-jerk". It's different enough than most of the other WnW kits on offer. It has that early aviation "fragile kite" look that a BE.2 has, but in German form. My feeling is that it will sell pretty well. I also ordered the Datafile the day after the WnW kit went on the market and noticed the mention of the kit in the book's description.
The Dolphin isn't really one I'm interested in, although I love most Sopwiths. I guess taste is very subjective! :D
George
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Lance - forgive my ambiguity ::) T'were that it had been you what I actually meant was I managed to get the last one that Hannants had. Hope to pick it up tomorrow.
Obviously I'm looking forwards to ordering a B11 in a few weeks time but if that Dolphin was to materialise ? :o :o :o - now that would present a paradox indeed. Nice thought though :)
Tug
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I'm actually excited about the B.II and my purchase wasn't "knee-jerk".
Totally agree. Seems like ground we've gone over many times in this thread -- there are people salivating for the more mainstream types, and others that get excited about the more obscure workhorses. Forunately WNW seems happy to oblige both camps. We all win.
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I have ordered one Alb. B.II and I am very decided to build it, just when it comes. Should be a fun!
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Lance - forgive my ambiguity ::) T'were that it had been you what I actually meant was I managed to get the last one that Hannants had. Hope to pick it up tomorrow.
Obviously I'm looking forwards to ordering a B11 in a few weeks time but if that Dolphin was to materialise ? :o :o :o - now that would present a paradox indeed. Nice thought though :)
Tug
Just a question -- It seems like many Brits write B.II (roman numeral 2) as "B11," Fokker D.VII as D.V11, Spad XIII as Spad X111, etc. Is this the way this is taught in schools there? Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm just curious.
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I have a question for those of us who purchased the Alb. B.II since they sold out so fast. Did you buy one or two? I only bought one since I'm trying to stay on budget for Christmas. :D
I'm also wondering if the majority of sales went to members of our forum since WnW's method of finding this kit was so hidden. We seemed to inform each other as to how to find it on their site. Or is there another large audience that I'm unaware of.
George
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I have a question for those of us who purchased the Alb. B.II since they sold out so fast. Did you buy one or two? I only bought one since I'm trying to stay on budget for Christmas. :D
I'm also wondering if the majority of sales went to members of our forum since WnW's method of finding this kit was so hidden. We seemed to inform each other as to how to find it on their site. Or is there another large audience that I'm unaware of.
George
Me, I ordered one, George.
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Wingnuts have quite a huge audience worldwide George, word spreads very quickly so with a limited number of kits the 'sold out' message appeared very quickly, they will restock over the next few weeks.
Des.
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I told my wife there was a box coming from New Zealand... just stick it under the tree when it arrives. "I know what comes from New Zealand" was the reply... ;)
Tell her, "Yes, it is Lucy Lawless."
Jamie
Hehe...does it come with a Gabrielle to complete the set? ;D
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to be honest i have long wondered about the possiblity that there are guys "investing" in wnw kits. buying multiples in bulk of kits likely or close to going oop. there is always a few popping up for sale the moment the sell out is announced. if this is the case its really FFF-ed up. someone buying up models theyre not planning on building but flipping for profit may be the reason certain types are selling out so quick. i know of one guy i suspect of this but of course cant proove it ,i just dont buy from him.
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to be honest i have long wondered about the possiblity that there are guys "investing" in wnw kits. buying multiples in bulk of kits likely or close to going oop. there is always a few popping up for sale the moment the sell out is announced. if this is the case its really FFF-ed up. someone buying up models theyre not planning on building but flipping for profit may be the reason certain types are selling out so quick. i know of one guy i suspect of this but of course cant proove it ,i just dont buy from him.
Albatros, this is just a small scale model of what is going on in the stock market. And basically speaking, even though I do not like it, I can hardly say it is illegal or so. If there are guys, who are willing to pay multiples of the original price, who can prohibit it? It is a free economy, isn't it?
And the conclusion is, that if you like a particular model WNW released, there is no point in waiting with an order.
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The Albatros B.II being sold out has no effect on me at all, I have no intentions of buying one nor the DH.9. Like a lot of other people the exchange rate has killed my spending, I am now buying Takom kits from a home grown hobby shop, prices are excellent and shipping next to nothing. I used to be a big fan of Ebay but since all the changes and now with them taking a percentage of the postal charges I deleted my Ebay account, easy to see why it is called 'Evilbay'.
Scott, I have also noticed the decline in Wingnuts OOP kits being sold, I think that if people are buying a lot of each kit purely to make a profit I believe that they are going to get burnt, yes, they are good kits but not worth anywhere near what some people are asking, not even the OOP kits. If someone is extremely desperate for a particular kit they will pay any price, but is would be rare.
I only ever buy one of each kit, I have quite a stash of Wingnut kits at the moments but in time they will all be built, and I will continue to buy Wingnut kits as soon as the exchange rate settles down, the $20 increase in kit prices only covers some of the post so the free post appears to be staying a while longer. It has been said before, if you like a particular kit then buy it while it is available, all of the Wingnut kits past, present and future where marketed as limited run kits, grab them while you can if you can afford them.
Des.
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Most of you hit on some pretty good points. I once bought a 1/35th scale tank that was a limited run ($55 US) that I had full intentions of building "one day", but when the price of said tank started bumping $200 on evil-bay, I put it up for sale, only wishing I'd bought ten of the suckers. 8) If someone wants to buy ten WNW kits in the hopes they'll make a tidy profit, more power to them. I'd venture to say 99% of the folks that do that will, at most, break even. Witness what happened to that floatplane with crosses, the bottom fell out of the market when they re-released it.
Des, I used to have a blast buying and selling stuff on evil-bay years ago in the late 90's/early 2000's, it was like a giant garage/yard sale, but they got bought, and flat out told all of us "little people" that we weren't welcome there anymore. To He!! with them I say, they can rot.
I have a very modest stash of WNW kits, maybe six, and only one multiple, and that was somewhat of an accident. I've been considering selling them off as 1/32nd is just not my "thing", 1/72nd is. However, I keep thinking in the future I might change my mind. I almost bought one of those Albatros B.II's, what a cool a/c, but truthfully, I'd rather have a DFW or Roland for the same money.
Like Bo, I'd like to know why our UK brethren use "1's" and we use "I's" when noting Roman numerals.
Warren
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George,
Well, I only bought just one. A few hours after I found out it existed. Why? Because it is one of those planes that has been flying with orange markings in the LVA. Just like the D.VII, Brisfit, DH9A, Sopwith Pup and Se 5. There have been 2 Alb. B.II's with orange markings. If you look closer there has also been a Gotha and a Felixstowe, but those are just too big for me.
I would like WnW to release a Fokker D.III, Rumpler C.VIII and of course most of all a Farman HF 20.
Actually I am planning to build this Albatros B.II soon as I like to make this one before everyone else does. Looks like quite a challenge for me with the required weathering and rigging. I'm already wondering how many buckles from what type I need from Bob and some excellent spokes wheels.
I only wish my wife would be like Bo's and just as pleased as I am. Especially when she opens the door to the mail man and has to pay about 40 euros for handling charges and customs dues first. So much for free shipping ;D and the exchange rate between euros and USD seems to be good for our exports, but not for me as a consumer.
regards,
Ivo
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Well, speaking as someone who at one point had to sell some kits for reasons I won't go into, it makes a lot more sense to sell an OOP kit than it does to sell one that is still available. I can honestly say I have never bought a model kit as an investment. At one point, I had most of the WnW kits and had every intention of building them. Trust me, it has been a real downer to have now sold most of them. When I have had to sell them I have used eBay as a price guide and taken the average of the last five kits sold as a selling price. Like it or not, that's what the market was and I saw no reason not to sell the kits for the best price for which I could get them as I felt it was fair to both myself and the buyer. Still, I got "hate mail" from people telling me I was "taking advantage of modelers" and being "greedy". This sort of attitude reminds me a lot of when I used to help my cousin clean out her horse stalls.
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Bo and Warren - It's a Typo I'm afraid, I guess a sort of getting old thingy :-[
BII (or maybe Bll) it is.
Apologies for any confusion created ;)
Tug
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justin, i wasnt talking about the new albie b.ii i was speaking in general terms more toward the really popular models like the d.vii and alb d.v/va market, it just seemed like it to me that every time a version sold out you would see the newly sold out version for sale at ridiculous mark-up and it seemed to be the same couple guys doing it trying to capitalize. of course its not illegal, but its messed up that someones looking to squeeze a bit of extra money out of loyal enthusists.it is immoral and crappy at the least.
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i wasnt speaking of a modeller like you michael who bought the kits with every intention of building them ,then cicumstances forced your hand and you had to sell a couple to make ends meet. hell ive done the exact same thing. it actually made me physically ill to have to sell something i wnted so badly to keep. i am speaking of guys who noticed that the oop kits were selling for high prices so they bought ones likely to sell out in order to try double their money. it is very much like going to a casino of course but it is as much a sickness as gambling is imho. they are like professional "flippers" they buy to flip and take advantage. its people like this who drive that market up and cause the kits to go oop quicker in the first place
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justin, i wasnt talking about the new albie b.ii i was speaking in general terms more toward the really popular models like the d.vii and alb d.v/va market, it just seemed like it to me that every time a version sold out you would see the newly sold out version for sale at ridiculous mark-up and it seemed to be the same couple guys doing it trying to capitalize. of course its not illegal, but its messed up that someones looking to squeeze a bit of extra money out of loyal enthusists.it is immoral and crappy at the least.
Yes, I agree, Scott. It's very messed up knowing that there are probably many OOP WnW kits just sitting in someone's garage with no intention of being built, and now as Des has stated, they are not fetching the price on eBay that they were at first. So now they just sit while the owner waits for the price to go up again. Yes, it's legal and it's how capitalism works, but this is just a simple hobby, a pastime. No one's getting rich pulling this nonsense.
George
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It appears that my comment regarding "speculative" buying or investing in these kits has kindled a lot of commentary and even a bit of emotion. Please be assured, folks, I in no way meant to direct the question or observation at any Member here nor do I feel it could be. Given the outrageous prices asked (and paid) for OOP Wingnut Wings Kits until recently (and yes, the W29 Duelist Release fixed that to a large measure) it is quite likely that some enterprising spirits out there see an opportunity to make a quick buck, it is the way of the world after all, and after a bit of research buy Kits strictly to resell at a profit. Sadly for us it can limit or preclude our obtaining one as Justin points out. The culprits are the same people that "flip" all sorts of rare items for a profit. I recall long before the Internet and EBay watching the price of Cabbage Patch Dolls go absolutely crazy at their Christmas release when the number released fell well short of demand. Des raises a good point, these Kits have been issued up front as "Limited Releases" so if you can afford it and want one, the sooner you order the better. I missed two, and refuse to pay 3 or 4 times their original price on EBay etc. That's on me and I'm a slow learner, I need to be quicker in future! As far as those who have had to sell some of their treasures you have my sincere sympathy, real life can get in the way of a good hobby at times, I hope things develop such that you can re-acquire what you've had to let go.
Last, I'm glad we've cleared up the I's and 1's thing, I'm still trying to determine how the rest of the world can refer to a great product like Q Tips as simple cotton buds, then on the other hand how can a Canadian talk, we call thin aluminum "tin foil"!? ???
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance
I noted your comment "I keep checking to hopefully find a "Harry Tate" for less then a mortgage on my home!!" and I wondered, given we are talking about OOP kit values now, what you would regard as a fair price for an RE.8?
This is not a trick question and I'm not about to hit Ebay with an over-priced OOP kit, but given all the talk about what people charge for OOP kits,. I'd be interested to know the gap between what people would be happy to pay vs the outrageous prices some people charge.
When it was available the WnW RE.8 cost $US99 which in Aussie currency equals $138 today.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Dave,
Go to evil-bay, do a search for WNW RE.8, and filter it for completed auctions. That will give you and idea both of what people are asking, and what folks are paying.
As for the rest of you, well . . . . you really do leave me shaking my head.
Warren
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Just be patient I paid 110.00 with shipping for my RE8 on ebay buy it now after it was sold out Just keep a sharp eye and be quick on the buy it now button I see quite a few of the OOP kits for decent prices and I do think they've gone down quite a bit recently
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Dave,
Go to evil-bay, do a search for WNW RE.8, and filter it for completed auctions. That will give you and idea both of what people are asking, and what folks are paying.
As for the rest of you, well . . . . you really do leave me shaking my head.
Warren
One is on eBay for $248.00 US right now.
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Dave,
Go to evil-bay, do a search for WNW RE.8, and filter it for completed auctions. That will give you and idea both of what people are asking, and what folks are paying.
As for the rest of you, well . . . . you really do leave me shaking my head.
Warren
One is on eBay for $248.00 US right now.
But whether it sells of not is another matter. If you look back over the last several months, the WNW OOP prices are kind of all over the place.
Warren
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Hi Lance
I noted your comment "I keep checking to hopefully find a "Harry Tate" for less then a mortgage on my home!!" and I wondered, given we are talking about OOP kit values now, what you would regard as a fair price for an RE.8?
This is not a trick question and I'm not about to hit Ebay with an over-priced OOP kit, but given all the talk about what people charge for OOP kits,. I'd be interested to know the gap between what people would be happy to pay vs the outrageous prices some people charge.
When it was available the WnW RE.8 cost $US99 which in Aussie currency equals $138 today.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Dave,
I know they've been going for much more but I'd be willing to pay up to $150-160 US, the Postage is a real killer so were talking around $200 US/$260 Canadian. When available the kit went for max. $130 Canadian. Beyond that price is, in my view, unreasonable.
By coincidence Justin has offered to look into one in NZ which is listed about where I've just stated, hopefully it's still available.
Cheers,
Lance
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Just to be clear, I wasn't referring to any of you scum-sucking, mouth-breathing, low-life, cottin' pickin', low-life (oops used that one already), bottom-feeding whiners when I posted earlier.
Seriously, though....Warren is correct; if you want to know the history of all this eBay business, type in the name of the kit...when it comes up, click on advanced search, then click on sold listings. And here's a really perfect example of just how "all over the map" the prices can be: on Sept. 14th, one Re8 sold for $110 and another sold for $250. Same kit, same day, but a huge difference in price.
As far as what a "fair" price for this kit would be at this time, IMHO, there is nothing such. It's like the antique furniture market or anything else that is in demand and also in limited supply. It's worth as much as you want to pay for it. As everyone has said, it's a free market.
But consider this: I believe the consensus of opinion has been that for most of their existence, Wingnuts kits have been underpriced and sent without postage costs. I'm just finishing up the W.12 and starting on the DFW and, I will say again, that the level of engineering and quality in these models is SECOND TO NONE, at least as far as WWI 1/32 aircraft go. (Even the new kits at $119 are cheap when you consider the quality compared to what you pay for resin kits like those from HPH.) So, at these eBay prices, the Harry Tate is coming in at about the same price as a Tamiya Mosquito. Yes, there's more styrene in the Mossie box but I have the kit and, IMHO, it is no better researched, engineered or manufactured than the Harry Tate. (Which I had but sent to Oz for $175., BTW)
With all due respect to my colleagues, I think there is a sense of unreality about this whole topic of pricing for both OOP WnW kits and new WnW kits. When you compare the price of the Wingnuts kits, the free shipping, and bear in mind their quality, which is superior to all competitors, frankly, I think Sir Peter was being amazingly generous when he decided on how these kits would be priced. Sadly, a lot of people seem to now feel that we are somehow entitled to always have it that way, regardless of the increase in quality, size and complexity of the kits, not to mention what the world financial markets have done since the first kits came out.
Just my 2 cents.
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I have never been a collector of kits with an intention to sell them for profit if they sell out. I am a rather enthusiastic kit buyer who has by good fortune managed to acquire a few kits that have gone OOP and now command silly prices. Its my intention to make them, health permitting.
My interest in the OOP Wingnuts kits thread was piqued by lance's comments about his quest to find a RE.8 for a fair price.
Lance has a deserved reputation on this forum as a top quality gentleman and I really hope he is able to source an RE.8 at an affordable price. As he says, international postage is a real deal killer and if there's an RE.8 available in NZ, I just hope the postage from there to Canada is realistic. I don't buy from US mail order firms now for postage cost reasons.
Lance - if the NZ deal does not come off, please PM me. You are closer to getting that elusive RE.8 than you may imagine ! :D
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Lance has a deserved reputation on this forum as a top quality gentleman and I really hope he is able to source an RE.8 at an affordable price. As he says, international postage is a real deal killer and if there's an RE.8 available in NZ, I just hope the postage from there to Canada is realistic.
Lance, i keep my ingers croosed for you on the possible Re8 deal.
I don't buy from US mail order firms now for postage cost reasons.
Indeed. it's nice to see the "black Friday" adverts from Squadron et al, but with shipping costs higher then the kits' prices (and import tax on top of that, too), it's a "no way" business for me nowadays. Sad, as I used to buy a lot of books via the US, as they were to be had much cheaper than here in imperial Germany. But those seem to be happier days longe gone.
Stefan
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I am in the same boat Stefan, my purchases from the states are limited to very small packages, like small brass nuts from RB Motion, anything larger and the post prices skyrocket.
Des.
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I told my wife there was a box coming from New Zealand... just stick it under the tree when it arrives. "I know what comes from New Zealand" was the reply... ;)
Live sheep?
LOL
(https://members.scouts.org.uk/images/content/Shaun-the-Sheep-pictures-3.jpg)
vB
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I told my wife there was a box coming from New Zealand... just stick it under the tree when it arrives. "I know what comes from New Zealand" was the reply... ;)
Live sheep?
LOL
(https://members.scouts.org.uk/images/content/Shaun-the-Sheep-pictures-3.jpg)
vB
and gumboots ;D
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Quote from Dave Wilson:
"Lance - if the NZ deal does not come off, please PM me. You are closer to getting that elusive RE.8 than you may imagine ! :D"
Dave,
Thank you , and if Justin is unsuccessful in his quest I will do so! It's looking very much like a done deal today so I'm keeping my fingers crossed; in the end there really is a Christmas! :) Will let you know either way......
Michael,
Totally agree with your last comments, the Wingnut Kits, when all is said and done, are a heck of a good deal from the manufacturer. Once OOP, like your antique furniture analogy, the cost is a reflection of availability and how much the buyer wants the product. It's a free market out there......... ???
Cheers,
Lance
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Just to be clear, I wasn't referring to any of you scum-sucking, mouth-breathing, low-life, cottin' pickin', low-life (oops used that one already), bottom-feeding whiners when I posted earlier.
Seriously, though....Warren is correct; if you want to know the history of all this eBay business, type in the name of the kit...when it comes up, click on advanced search, then click on sold listings. And here's a really perfect example of just how "all over the map" the prices can be: on Sept. 14th, one Re8 sold for $110 and another sold for $250. Same kit, same day, but a huge difference in price.
As far as what a "fair" price for this kit would be at this time, IMHO, there is nothing such. It's like the antique furniture market or anything else that is in demand and also in limited supply. It's worth as much as you want to pay for it. As everyone has said, it's a free market.
But consider this: I believe the consensus of opinion has been that for most of their existence, Wingnuts kits have been underpriced and sent without postage costs. I'm just finishing up the W.12 and starting on the DFW and, I will say again, that the level of engineering and quality in these models is SECOND TO NONE, at least as far as WWI 1/32 aircraft go. (Even the new kits at $119 are cheap when you consider the quality compared to what you pay for resin kits like those from HPH.) So, at these eBay prices, the Harry Tate is coming in at about the same price as a Tamiya Mosquito. Yes, there's more styrene in the Mossie box but I have the kit and, IMHO, it is no better researched, engineered or manufactured than the Harry Tate. (Which I had but sent to Oz for $175., BTW)
With all due respect to my colleagues, I think there is a sense of unreality about this whole topic of pricing for both OOP WnW kits and new WnW kits. When you compare the price of the Wingnuts kits, the free shipping, and bear in mind their quality, which is superior to all competitors, frankly, I think Sir Peter was being amazingly generous when he decided on how these kits would be priced. Sadly, a lot of people seem to now feel that we are somehow entitled to always have it that way, regardless of the increase in quality, size and complexity of the kits, not to mention what the world financial markets have done since the first kits came out.
Just my 2 cents.
Interesting Michael. I know we have discussed the "Who pays these outrageous prices" thing before and I now have the answer. My friend who once owned a Hobby Shop and is now retired is the one. I have been going over his WW1 kits and his purchase price with him. He did well on some but on others was totally Hosed. I wish he would have contacted me reference what they were really worth. He actually paid in excess of $117.00 for a Roland CIIa ! He said he wanted it and that was the deciding factor. Actually didn't know he could purchase the same kit for $99.00 with no shipping direct from WNW. Thought they were Out of Business. His purchase price for the RE8 was $217.00 which is near what he will want to sell it for. I am negotiating with him to list the kits that he did OK on purchase price vs value here. We shall see how things go.
RAGIII
PS: I totally agree also that the WNW pricing vs quality has been very generous when compared to Tamiya et al. That being said out of my budget is out of my budget no matter what. I have 3 WNW kits left in my stash after the 2 I am working on are finished. I don't see a major increase to 5,10 or 15 unless I hit the lottery ::)
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I have a question for those of us who purchased the Alb. B.II since they sold out so fast. Did you buy one or two? I only bought one since I'm trying to stay on budget for Christmas. :D
I'm also wondering if the majority of sales went to members of our forum since WnW's method of finding this kit was so hidden. We seemed to inform each other as to how to find it on their site. Or is there another large audience that I'm unaware of.
George
I only bought 1 off the kits as I'm a builder not a collector (I only actually own one duplicate and thats the Roland C.IIa as I intend to build the C.II, the C.IIa Early and the C.IIa Late.
As for the C.II, D.VII etc - its Roman numerals as I was taught in school in the UK, no idea why other Brits use B.11 instead of B.II?????