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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: James on November 25, 2015, 12:36:07 PM
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Looks like the Wingnut Wings Fokker D.VII F is SOLD OUT.
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Wow! :o
My thought of making a list of those WNW kits I don't yet have and then getting those same kits needs to get done ASAP. ;)
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Exactly man.There are a few I need/want to get so I will have to convince SWMBO to let me get a bunch, I mean a few....
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Only one Fokker D.VII left! Hurry and get one while supplies last!
George
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but what do you do when there is an eminant new release?
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Sold out? Ah, at least ANY news from WingnutWings: They're alive and kicking, haha!
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...perhaps a "build any variant" deluxe boxing is in the works? Sprues H,I & J + both motors...
You know these have to appear again in some guise.
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We've seen boxings so far of post war Ninaks, Snipes and Bristol Fighters. Why not post war Fokkers, especially the D VII F model. The Dutch sure used it as did the Soviets in the Russian Civil War and the Poles as well.
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It’s ironic that I was going to include a D.VII F in my next order which I intended to place this month but held off doing so just in case there was a tempting ‘Christmas surprise’ which I could include.
Ah well, I’ve got more than enough un-built kits to admire as it is! ::)
Regards
Russell
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Looks like I got my DVIIF just in time!
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Another kit bites the dust, that make 11 now.
Des.
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I have a Fokker D.VII F on my shelf, but I'm apparently a little coward - just ordered a D.VII (Alb) 8)
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Russell, I'm in exactly that boat! xMas was going to be the post war Biff and the DVIIF to do a Dutch scheme. Christmas has now been ruined, because of selfish modellers and their buying habits and WNWs underenthusiastic manufacturing order.....
i may as well drown myself in wine now....
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Im not an expert, so externally without looking too hard, what are the diffs between the 7 and 7f? That is to say, which WNW would look closest to an F without being one, if the engine was cowled shut?
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Im not an expert, so externally without looking too hard, what are the diffs between the 7 and 7f? That is to say, which WNW would look closest to an F without being one, if the engine was cowled shut?
The Fokker built one. A D.VIIF is a Fokker-built D.VII with a BMW IIIa motor. Essentially it is otherwise identical to a late Fokker airframe.
THe D.VIIF designation was only applied to Fokker-built airframes. However many Albatros- and OAW-built machines ware fitted with BMW engines as they became available. (these variants haven't been represented so far by a WNW boxing...)
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Hmm so I think I could do a Dutch khaki F by covering up the engine, altering the exhaust and snaffling the louvred cowling option for the F kit from some fellow forumites perhaps....?
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http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008/06/11/fokker-d-vii-used-in-the-netherlands/
Hmm there were a variety of airframes and engines it seems.
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Hmm so I think I could do a Dutch khaki F by covering up the engine, altering the exhaust and snaffling the louvred cowling option for the F kit from some fellow forumites perhaps....?
It depends on which kit you are starting with. I think the Fokker-built boxing has everything you need except the BMW motor sprue (which is still available separately.) and the louvered upper cowl panels, and exhaust (sprue G.) If you are starting from the OAW or Alb versions, you'll need to scrounge the Fokker-style cowl panels and undercarriage airfoil, or modify as necessary.
Fok Sprues
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/v2CB45D01/www/products/model_kitsets/32011/online_instructions/32011%20Fokker%20D.VII%20(Fok)%20Page%2002.jpg)
D.VIIF Sprues
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/v2CB45D01/www/products/model_kitsets/32031/online_instructions/32031%20Fokker%20D.VII%20%20F%20%20Page%2002.jpg)
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http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008/06/11/fokker-d-vii-used-in-the-netherlands/
Hmm there were a variety of airframes and engines it seems.
Forum member IvotB knows a great deal about Fokkers used by the LVA; you might want to pick his brain...
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Cheers Bo et al.
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For me, the surprise with the Wingnuts Fokker D.VII series is how few you see built. The D.VIIF kit has been available since March 2013, and although the D.VII is one of the best known aircraft from WW1, it doesn't seem to translate into many finished builds anywhere. Maybe we're just buying the kits now for future projects as a hedge against them selling out? Not a silly strategy by the way.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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I've built 5 and have I think 4 in the stash.
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I was planning to order a D.VII F as well. So now I'm too late. On the other hand let's look at the differences. The main difference is that the F used the BMW engine in stead of the Mercedes D.III. So the cowlings may show some differences too. If you check the WnW website and see which sprues are included in the only D.VII version still available, you will find that these are actually the only differences between the D.VIIF and the D.VII Alb. The BMW engine sprue can be bought as a separate item and we'll just have to copy Bo's technique for making cowlings :). And of course find an appropriate decal set.
As far as I'm aware there are some modifications on D.VIIF versions flying with the Royal Netherlands Naval Air Services, but these were modifications after WWI. The D.VIIF's in the LVA in the Netherlands all had ordinary fuselages but ofcourse with the BMW engine and modified cowlings.
So I guess anyone wanting to build a D.VIIF as WWI plane still could order the D.VII Alb, which is still for sale at WnW and do some scratchbuilding for the cowlings. There may be another difference that I'm not aware of, but seems to be part of the D.VII Alb kit and that is the fairing in between the main wheels of the landing gear.
regards,
Ivo
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I have purchased three and built three! An Early Fokker built, OAW, and the DVII F. I have a fourth on the way soon but actually don't know which version as it is a gift from an old friend.
RAGIII
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i am almost finished with my oaw ,i had also gotten a fokker early but was forced to sell it a few months back when i lost my job. i need more than 1.
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All of mine are still in my stash, I will get around to building them one day ;)
Des.
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I have the cockpit finished on my Fok, but the others are still in their boxes. Like Des, I will get around to them one day. ;D
George
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I have two built and three in the Stash including an F Model. A beautifully kitted model but five will do me! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
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I just pulled the trigger on a D.VII (Alb). I didn't have that one in my stash. Please forgive me, I'm weak! It's a illness! :-[
I just blew my cash that I set aside for the Xmas release. If WnW comes up with something really cool then I'm screwed. (Not that it will sell out in a month, I'm sure I'll pick it up later)
My name is George and I'm a Wingnut-holic. :-\
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George, Thank you for going first at the mic. I too, have pulled the trigger on a DVII, and an OAW Albie, just, ah, in case. I too, will now need to save a bit for what ever WNW releases, when they do.
Who wants to go next?
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I reckon the Roland is selling out too.
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This is my LVA D.VII:
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/Ivotb/Fokker%20D-VII/IMG_31191600x1200_zpse09d4c7e.jpg)
This was the topic in completed models:
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1738.msg28328#msg28328
And this was my build log:
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1288.0
You also see the dutch decal set 32009 which I have used for this LVA D.VII with Mercedes engine. It seems to be an F, but is definitely equipped with the Fok D.VII Mercedes cowlings.
If you would go for the other options: LVA 263, 265 and the MLD options D-32 and D-24 and a lozenge covered demo plane you will need the BMW with the cowlings, but otherwise the D.VII Alb will do the trick (I must admit I ordered a D.VII Alb and a separate BMW sprue yesterday evening). I guess it shouldn't be the biggest problem to borrow the cowlings from a member here and make some resin copies. I'm not sure if that's allowed, but I would ask WnW for permission to do this. After all we are still buying Fokker kits from WnW. On the other hand the cowlings are the parts that are a bit too thick, so scratchbuilding may still be the better option.
I was planning to build the version with the lozenge. Using decals from aviattic (I have to check that)
For more differences between a Mercedes powered D.VII and a D.VIIF I should consult a book about the Fokker D.VII, which is available in dutch only, describing the history of the D.VII in the Netherlands:
http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2009/02/12/fokker-d-vii-book-by-nico-geldhof/
regards,
Ivo
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i sucked it up and spent money i shouldnt have to buy an albatros built fokker d.vii and bmw engine. i couldnt afford it but i would just kick myself if it sold out (rather when it sells out soon) and i had to pay ebay prices for one of the d.vii kits later. or even if they finally implement the shipping charges they have been threatening to for the last 5 years.it killed me to order a wnw kit when i really wanted that b.ii albie soooo bad.
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I suspect that the DVII will be gone before the new Albatros kit. I'll have to budget for one as well, but that's OK.
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I found out which DVII I have coming from my good Old Friend. It is the Fokker DVII, Fokker built. Now what scheme from JG1 do I do! I will choose from Jasta 11 or Jasta 4 as I already have two Jasta 10 DVIIs and one Jasta 6... or I may trade for an OAW and do Udets Du Doch Nicht. So many decisions 8)
RAGIII
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I found out which DVII I have coming from my good Old Friend. It is the Fokker DVII, Fokker built. Now what scheme from JG1 do I do! I will choose from Jasta 11 or Jasta 4 as I already have two Jasta 10 DVIIs and one Jasta 6... or I may trade for an OAW and do Udets Du Doch Nicht. So many decisions 8)
RAGIII
Awww. Poor Rick. ;) Really glad your friend gave you the Fokker Built DVII. It helps assuage the terrible guilt I've been feeling ever since you traded me that LVG for a Roden SPAD. I look forward to seeing what you do with it, Amigo. I know it'll be brilliant.
Cheers,
Bud
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it makes me sick that I had to sell my fokker built d.vii. with only the one oaw which is almost done I knew I had to have a second one. I don't wanna hear any lamenting from you guys saying oh darn I should have gotten a D.VIIf I've only got three of these and two of those and the 4 ive already built.that's just not a real problem in my book.there's still another half dozen wingnut wings kit that i truly want but can't afford .I've only had one of each type that have boughtI wish I had the money to buy every kit that I wanted and multiples thereof.it must be nice
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That's a great looking LVA Fokker, Ivo!
I'm not really a multiple-of-xxxxxx kind of builder, so more than happy with my sole D.VII (Alb) :)
Jeroen