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Title: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 24, 2015, 08:32:28 AM
    I started this Build a little over a week ago, and here's the first chapter in the saga. This subject has been high on my list of "wants" for some time. A beautiful aircraft and though not a large number reached the operational stage due to initial problems with the 160 and follow on 200 HP Siemens Halske 11 cylinder bi-rotary engine the aircraft served well. It was able to climb to an operational ceiling of 6000 meters in 21 minutes, half the time required for even the vaunted Fokker D.VII, and thus proved well suited for interception of high flying Entente aircraft in a "Home Defence" Role. Under the terms of the Versailles Agreement all but a few of the D.III's and all of the follow on DIV's were destroyed in 1919.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4156.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4156.jpg.html)

......and the mandatory sprue shot:

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4157.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4157.jpg.html)

    The Kit has a few short comings but overall is a good one. My references are somewhat limited however, as always, having the excellent Windsock Data File trumps quantity! Rowan at Pheon also provides some great advice on improvements that can be added along with his excellent Decal Sheet for the aircraft.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4160.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4160.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4159.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4159.jpg.html)

   I'll be using Aviattic's now "mandatory" Lozenge Decals, using both the clear and white backing 5 Colour upper and lower sheets.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4158.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4158.jpg.html)

   The first step in this Build is to add the virtually absent rib detail, for this I'm working with Evergreen Styrene strips of various sizes using CA to attach, then Tamiya Surface Primer to blend and then hours of tedious sanding. It's a long haul but well worth the results.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4162.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4162.jpg.html)

...........work in progress.......

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4166.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4166.jpg.html)

..........   and some of the components completed.


(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4165.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4165.jpg.html)

   The fuselage also requires some improvement; the panel lines being grossly exaggerated need filling and re-scribing and the lift and handgrip ports need to be opened up. Here's the "during and after" view......

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4168.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4168.jpg.html)

   I'm awaiting the arrival of the Brengun PE After market Set ordered from Hannants; it has engine access hatches and the lower "chin" cowling with cooling louvres that I'll be applying. In the interim I've started on the engine and main cowling assembly.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4167.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4167.jpg.html)

   So far all is progressing well, it's refreshing to have the need for some scratch and modified building inputs to the Kit, keeps a spoiled WNW fan on his toes!
Cheers,
Lance



Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on October 24, 2015, 09:18:30 AM
You have made an excellent start Lance on what I found was a fairly decent kit. It never hurts to have to do a bit of 'real' modeling during a build, the modifications you have done are looking great, in your talented hands this will end up being a show stopper.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: coyotemagic on October 24, 2015, 09:30:27 AM
Fantastic work refining the kit parts, Lance!  I can already tell she's gonna be a stunner.  Have you settled on a scheme yet?
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on October 24, 2015, 09:47:32 AM
Fantastic beginning, Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on October 24, 2015, 09:53:35 AM
Outstanding sstart Lance!
Excellent work onfixing the panel lines!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: dtomko on October 24, 2015, 10:30:49 AM
Very nice work, Lance.

Drew
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: GAJouette on October 24, 2015, 10:49:32 AM
 Lance,
Outstanding start my old friend. I have the same kit but never got around to it. What marking are you using from Pheon? Looking forward to following along and admittedly stealing some excellent tips too.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 24, 2015, 11:39:11 AM
A great start, Lance and I will be following your work with real interest. The same kit has lain unpurchased on the shelves of my local model shop for several years. It seems expensive, but who knows, one day I might provide a caring home for it!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: LukasTheLight on October 24, 2015, 03:56:30 PM
Hi Lance!

great to see you tackling another beast :D I still need to add this one to my stash, so far I only have Albatros D.I and D.III from Roden and I cant wait to put them on the bench... that tutorial on ribs will be well handy for their wings too...
Guys from CZrep warned me before this one though but I shall keep my fingers crossed for you and one day for me :)

Looking great so far, looking forward for more. Also, it has been asked but I would also like to know if you have decided on the scheme...

Cheerio
Lukas
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 24, 2015, 07:30:26 PM
Great start, Lance.

This will be a fun build to follow and we all know the end result will be a top notch D.III.

Vb
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Kai on October 24, 2015, 09:48:19 PM
Good work.

Aviattic's engine would look great with that kit.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 25, 2015, 12:40:56 AM
   I very much appreciate the responses and interest shown so quickly to this Post!  In answer to the many queries on the subject of colour scheme "What marking are you using from Pheon?" the only decision I've made is "I need to decide"! I was leaning towards one of the two blue schemes (included here for illustration purposes only)   ...............

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4169.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4169.jpg.html)

or................

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4172.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4172.jpg.html)

........however the dark brown stain on the wood finish is nagging at me, hard to resist as well..........

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4173.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4173.jpg.html)

    This will be a slow Build as I'm awaiting the arrival of the Brengun PE Set as mentioned earlier, and had somehow missed the Aviattic Siemens Halske Resin Engine which is going to have to be incorporated into the plan!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 25, 2015, 12:53:59 AM
Quote from Michael:
     "I am still a newbie at a lot of this so allow me to ask a rookie question: I understand filling the panel lines but do they need to be rescribed? Is it possible the sheets were actually butt joined, as they were on the Albatros, with no discernable gap between sheets?"

    I had the same thoughts, Michael. I spent some time closely examining the photos in the Data File and on line; very few are clear, the majority being very dark due to poor lighting. Most indicate a "seamless" finish of the panelled areas however, to my eye, the seams are visible in the clearer shots. The Kit has very exaggerated seams, far too deep and wide, so I chose to partially fill them and then re-scribe them. (perhaps an effect of "AMS", of which I am an admitted victim!) I use one of RB Motions scribing tools, a product I really like, and it does a great job on a touchy task. The proof will come in the primer coat, if the effect doesn't work out I'll refill the lines and sand the fuselage flush as the backup plan.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 25, 2015, 01:05:58 AM
    Another step I missed to this point is correcting the hand holds on the fuselage re: their alignment. Thanks Des, for the much appreciated "prod"! I had this task in the notes I prepared during the informal research stage but in a typical "old fart" moment or ten completely forgot! I'll be addressing that hopefully today, more to follow.
   Nigel, it seems expensive and I'd been dragging my feet on getting one for a couple of years. Fortunately I had the chance to buy the Kit from fellow member Mark (MGunns) and we did a "drug deal in the dark of the Hotel Bar" during our get together in Ottawa last month! I still feel like it was a gift at the price I paid him!
   Again Gents, many Thanks for the encouragement and interest you've provided here, great motivation and support all round! More to follow.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: kornbeef on October 25, 2015, 01:44:03 AM
Lance, this is one of those kits I keep meaning to buy so I too will be following along intrigued to see what you do with her.  ;)

Keith
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 25, 2015, 02:39:30 AM
Keith,
    I'll be easy to track, it gets slower as I try to forge ahead. In a concept very familiar to you I keep finding more "things" I want to incorporate into the Build!
    Nice to see you back here, you've been unusually quiet of late. Something on the go that will turn up on that beautiful old oak stump in your back yard I hope........ :o
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: iwik on October 25, 2015, 02:40:51 AM
Hi Icaroll!
If this can be of any help!
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=5587.msg100227#msg100227
Keep it up! It looks good so far. And yes you'd need to change the angle of the handles.
Ciao
Iwik
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 25, 2015, 03:04:44 AM
Iwik,
    My apologies, in all the excitement of getting this started I completely forgot your Build Thread and excellent model :-[ :-[ ! Had I spent some time reviewing your efforts I could have saved a lot of time and effort, not to mention I would not have missed a few details that I'm going to get working on immediately. :( Thanks for this!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 25, 2015, 04:50:39 AM
good choice lance and great start.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: uncletony on October 25, 2015, 07:58:29 AM
Seams seem evident enough in these photos:
(http://combatace.com/uploads/monthly_01_2012/post-10763-0-98956400-1327689651.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff181/Peter_T1958/Siemens_Schuckert/Kest5_DIII_Beckhardt.jpg~original)
(http://www.earlyaeroplanes.com/archive/1b/images/Udet_SSW_LO.jpg)
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 25, 2015, 12:17:47 PM
Seams seem evident enough in these photos:
(http://combatace.com/uploads/monthly_01_2012/post-10763-0-98956400-1327689651.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff181/Peter_T1958/Siemens_Schuckert/Kest5_DIII_Beckhardt.jpg~original)
(http://www.earlyaeroplanes.com/archive/1b/images/Udet_SSW_LO.jpg)

Yes, these are some of the ones I'd viewed when I decided to include the seams. A little less pronounced then on the Kit parts! These are even clearer on my monitor then the "hard" versions I have, Thanks Bo.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: gedmundson on October 25, 2015, 12:45:32 PM
Hi Lance,
This one seems very unique and a very intriguing subject. You've made a great start and have done some excellent research - I'm looking forward to following along on your build with great interest.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: mgunns on October 25, 2015, 10:38:34 PM
Hi Lance:

Glad to see this taking shape.  It sat on my shelf far too long and you are bringing it to life in "True Carroll Fashion."  I will be following along as you go through the build. 
Until that time
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 25, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
Good to see you've dived into this project with such enthusiasm Lance. A little old fashioned modelling is good for us all as it keeps the creative juices flowing.

I like the looks of that blue scheme with the arrows. That would be an eye-catcher for sure.

What are you using for seam filler? I ask because I want to know how to get good clean lines when re-scribing them. I tried it once and I wasn't impressed with the result, as the lines seemed rather 'soft'.

I'm looking forward to your next update already.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 26, 2015, 12:31:55 AM
   - Gary, thanks, I've been wanting to model this aircraft since my 1:48 Scale days, it's one mean looking machine.
   - Mark, I certainly feel lucky having got my hands on this one without having to sell my truck, like many of the Roden Series it is a great model once a few basics are worked on.
   -Chris, I'm using two coats of Tamiya Surface Primer; the real key is the scribing tool, RB Industries one shown below. It's a goofy looking little tool but I've never got the results that it provides, it's inexpensive, and as long as you take your time it does a really great job. It's Photo etch and just slips into a standard hobby knife as you see. Highly recommended!

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4182.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4182.jpg.html)

Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 26, 2015, 05:06:49 AM
   A small update, I got back to the misaligned hand holds and they worked out just fine. The surrounding areas were ground out with the trusty Mototool and the outlines trimmed to match the panel lines. I don't use this tool often but when it's required it's a great little gadget.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4175.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4175.jpg.html)

   The fuselage stringers used as handles on the three openings (Evergreen Strips again) were then CA'ed into place the results look much better then the original kit examples.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4189.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4189.jpg.html)

   I'm almost done with the flying surface ribs, will be priming them today or next. There's no urgency here, the PE Set still hasn't arrived and I've just ordered the resin engine from Aviattic, really looking forward to that little beauty as well.
   More to follow.......... :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: GAJouette on October 26, 2015, 07:15:06 AM
 Lance,
Excellent bit of surgery my old friend. It never ceases to amaze me how the simplest of updates and upgrades add so much to the overall appearance of any project. Keep up the awesome progress old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on October 26, 2015, 07:41:05 AM
That's much nicer Lance, good to see the hand hold aligned correctly, not a huge job but a necessary one, looking forward to seeing the next steps in the build.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 26, 2015, 08:07:46 AM
Thanks for commenting Greg and Des. Finicky work but well worth the effort So far it's been a very enjoyable project.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on October 26, 2015, 08:28:08 AM
Very good update, Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 26, 2015, 11:48:52 AM
Lance - great start!
The openings behind the hand holds were closed off with a kind of 'cup" inside - if you see what I mean - not open through to the interior. probably for aero-dynamic considerations and to stop airflow from entering the fuselage. Hope that makes sense...
Richard

Another revelation! Thanks Richard, I need more/better references. Do you (or anyone else) have any recommendations?
....and thanks Martin, it's a fun Build but as you can see a lot of information is missing in my progress!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: uncletony on October 26, 2015, 11:58:02 AM
The Jack Herris monograph on SSW aircraft is definitely recommended...

lots of useful drawings and photos and info

http://www.amazon.com/Siemens-Schuckert-Aircraft-WWI-Centennial-Perspective/dp/193588123X

nice photo on page 113 which illustrates what Richard is talking about, and puts the panel line question to bed ;)

in that photo you can see that the exposed longhorn is flush with the fuselage side, or very nearly so
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Ernie on October 26, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
Just playing catch-up Lance.  Great choice with the D.III.
I look forward to watching the usual magic of your builds.
Onward and upward, my friend!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on October 26, 2015, 11:55:46 PM
Only just found this thread Lance - been at an exhibition over the weekend. That's a good start on what promises to be a great project. Good luck with what lays ahead, I shall certainly follow your progress with interest.

Always been attracted to, and wanted to make, this particular aircraft since in my 72nd days when it was unavailable in any scale. With a growing WnW stash however I'm a mite reluctant to add another but who knows there might be one at an 'impossible to pass by' price at Telford  ;)

Regards
Tug
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Ssasho0 on October 26, 2015, 11:56:50 PM
Hi Lance,

this is a kit that I want to build one day so I'm keeping my eye on your wonderfull and informative build. I'm sure that this is going to be a handbook for many new SSDIII builds!

Best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 27, 2015, 12:57:14 AM
Bo, thanks for the info, I wish I had got this book before, I have the Herris Roland and Pfalz versions and they are excellent. The longerons would look flush as I would imagine the fuselage skin was no thicker then the Albatros ones, very light gauge. The clearer photos are wonderful, the oil staining on Udets "LO!" really looks clearer. I'll be incorporating the "cups" into the construction plans.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 27, 2015, 01:00:20 AM
Thanks for looking in, Ernie, Tug, and Sasho. I recommend the Kit, it's good to do a little extra work on a Kit that is basically a good one. It's got it's short comings but will provide a solid base for a nice model.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: petrov27 on October 27, 2015, 04:17:33 AM
Looking good there! I will echo others that it is not a bad kit - took me forever to build it (think I had build logs on three forums over three years or so) but it looks great when finished and it is worth the modifications/improvements you are making!
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Peter_T1958 on October 27, 2015, 05:51:26 AM
Hi Lance

Glad to see another D.III. I must confess that I haven't found the courage up to this day yet. But perhaps I may contribute a little bit too:

Concerning the panel lines here some additional information to the underside. They should look about this way.

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff181/Peter_T1958/Siemens_Schuckert/Panel_Line_zpspkav6pb9.png~original) (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/Peter_T1958/media/Siemens_Schuckert/Panel_Line_zpspkav6pb9.png.html)

As you may know, the cockpit arrangement presents another challenge for the modeler (And it's my favourite subject... ::)). Roden's cockpit represents to some extent the D.III prototype cockpit. The production aircrafts had a slighly different arrangement, for example a "Fokker style" control stick, magneto and altimeter on different positions,...)

I am looking forward to your next update!

All the best,
Peter


Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 27, 2015, 06:57:07 AM
Petrov 27, Thanks for your supportive comments!

     Peter, Thank you for taking the time to comment and especially for this information. The panel lines are great stuff to have, the three views I have don`t show them and the kit detail is even less, I`ll be adding them. As for the cockpit that explains to me why there was a difference between the Kit Layout and my (limited) photos, very helpful!

Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 28, 2015, 03:48:36 AM
   The Brengun Photo Etch Set arrived from Hannants yesterday, it looks like a great addition, nice detail and the soft brass PE that I far prefer to the heavier silver metal type. The two highlights IMHO, are the lower engine "chin" cowling with the louvres and the seat back, should be a great improvement in both areas.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4194.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4194.jpg.html)

   The set also has the parts for the early versions full cowling.....

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4191.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4191.jpg.html)

    This, along with priming and some scribing of the wings and lower fuselage portion of the lower wing assembly will keep me busy for the next week or more.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on October 28, 2015, 05:14:59 AM
Nice parts.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 28, 2015, 05:57:40 AM
My word, Lance! Looks like a fine set of brass you have there.
Good luck with the application of said brasswork  ;)
vB
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: LukasTheLight on October 28, 2015, 06:18:25 AM
Hi Lance!!!

That brass looks actually great!!! Also great to see Czech stuff travelling all around the world 8)

Cheerio
Lukas
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on October 28, 2015, 07:34:05 AM
I'm not a lover of PE but your set certainly looks impressive, looking forward to hearing what you have to say about it when you start fitting each piece.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 28, 2015, 08:56:56 AM
Martin, Bob, Lukas, and Des,
    I'm no great fan of PE either however I do like the effects it adds for panels and vents etc. I've got the "chin" cowling with all it's louvres almost done, this is really good quality material and burnishing works beautifully on the soft brass. I'd have no reservations in recommending this set.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4200.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4200.jpg.html)

    I elected to completely remove the vent opening area from the Kit component to maximise the open louvres effect.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4197.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4197.jpg.html)

    There's several pieces included for the cockpit which I'll get started tomorrow.
Cheers,
Lance

   
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: FarEast on October 28, 2015, 09:06:58 AM
Looks great and the photo etch looks great, how did you get such clean results on the bends?
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: petrov27 on October 28, 2015, 09:19:43 AM
yeah that louvered panel looks great - huge improvement over the kit
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: GAJouette on October 28, 2015, 11:46:34 AM
 Lance,
Wow the louvered nose panel is truly amazing work my old friend. Like yourself I'm not a big fan of PE detail but after seeing your efforts with this new (At Least to me) Brengun set I may well rethink my opinion of PE. I'm dying to see how the rest of the set works out for you.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 28, 2015, 11:51:13 AM
Wow, those are some nice louvers, Lance. We're really seeing a renaissance of brass and louvers these days!

George
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on October 28, 2015, 10:39:29 PM
Lance,
As the others have commented the brass panel and louvers are awesome! I have stayed away from this kit for years but you are sure making it tempting  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 28, 2015, 10:51:10 PM
Thanks for looking and for your comments. I use a simple burnishing tool bought, I think, from a Hobby Shop in Edmonton years back which has since gone out of business like so many. The "secret" is a semi flexible or soft surface to work on, I find a dense cardboard the best although I've used rubber gasket material on the harder or thicker PE material.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4204.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4204.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4202.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4202.jpg.html)

   The cardboard used here is salvaged from a box of frozen chicken wings, once the work is complete the product, with a nice cold ale, makes the work seem so much more "complete"! These louvers need a bit more smoothing out and they'll be ready for installation.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 29, 2015, 01:34:42 AM
Lance, are you annealing the brass before you work on it?

Michael,
     Not this particular stuff, it's already quite "soft" and works well as is. The last time I annealed before shaping was the Eduard set for the Fokker DVII in 1:48 Scale, the etched fret was a much thicker material and the harder "silver" type, much harder to work with. I am really pleased with the quality of this Brengun line.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 29, 2015, 02:13:58 AM

   The cardboard used here is salvaged from a box of frozen chicken wings

Cheers,
Lance

So my question is, were they buffalo wings? Bbq wings? Hot wings? Teriyaki? Something more exotic? Your brass is looking great and I want to be sure to repeat your process exactly! ;D

George
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 29, 2015, 02:27:47 AM

   The cardboard used here is salvaged from a box of frozen chicken wings

Cheers,
Lance

So my question is, were they buffalo wings? Bbq wings? Hot wings? Teriyaki? Something more exotic? Your brass is looking great and I want to be sure to repeat your process exactly! ;D

George

George,
    Buffalo of course! Just be sure the cardboard is the tighter or denser core type as in most freezer boxes and all will be fine! I insist on healthful choices in food ::), so if you have M&M Meats in your area that's the stuff! Truth to be known I sneak them into the menu when the Good Wife leaves me home alone and Wonder Dog and I go on a real health food kick. It does wonders for the soul! 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 29, 2015, 02:37:21 AM
What he's not telling us is that he soaked the brass in the wings' hot sauce thereby doing away with the need for annealing with a flame.
 

Drat!! Can't fool you Guys "no-how"!! :(
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on October 29, 2015, 02:37:55 AM
You have very fine work to the etch part, Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: uncletony on October 29, 2015, 05:19:58 AM
The "silver PE stuff" is stainless steel, BTW

Probably not a good idea to attempt to anneal it.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 29, 2015, 05:59:52 AM
The "silver PE stuff" is stainless steel, BTW

Probably not a good idea to attempt to anneal it.
     

Ahhhh, that probably explains why it didn't seem to make much of a difference, if any. :P ???
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 31, 2015, 02:50:53 AM
   Small update, the Photo Etch components are completed, the fuselage frame shown "posed" for now.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4205.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4205.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4206.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4206.jpg.html)

   The Brengun PE Set proved a pleasure to work with, now it's time to start spraying some paint on this little devil.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on October 31, 2015, 03:26:35 AM
Excellent results with the PE Lance! You may have mentioned this but is the Brengun set available to purchase and who is the best source?
Looking forward to your next update,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 31, 2015, 03:57:12 AM
   I got my set from Hannants last month Rick, they showed it out of stock but "on order" 2 days ago when I checked. I couldn't find a closer supplier but didn't search that hard as Rowan from Pheon recommended it to me and said it was available at Hannants.
   Thanks for the supportive comment. :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 31, 2015, 04:09:27 AM
Lance, it is moving along nicely with the PE.

Ed
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on October 31, 2015, 06:32:07 AM
Excellent progress Lance, you are doing wonders with the PE, the seat and the frames are especially nice.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on October 31, 2015, 06:38:05 AM
A great start Lance and lovely PE work, I'm really looking forwards to seeing this develop  :)

Keep it coming - Tug
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on October 31, 2015, 07:49:54 AM
Very good PE-work, Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on October 31, 2015, 07:56:50 AM
Ed, Des, Martin, and Tug,
  I much appreciate your comments and encouragement. Most of the various components are now primed and drying, next steps will be some cockpit detail and some Decal work on the lower wing and Flight Control surfaces. I'm waiting for some "45 Degree joined Lozenge" from Aviattic for the upper wing.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 07, 2015, 04:59:29 AM
   I've made a fair amount of progress since the last photos, so here's another update as of this morning.
   The cowling had the double retention straps added; stretched sprue threaded on with super thin CA did it nicely.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4213.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4213.jpg.html)

   I judged the "lip" on the forward opening adequate and primed the cowling for a coat of Alclad II later.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4215.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4215.jpg.html)

   The upper decking has it's coat of Alclad Dull Aluminum, the Ammunition magazine had to be trimmed to allow closing of the fuselage. (conflicted with some of the installed PE additions)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4218.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4218.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4219.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4219.jpg.html)

   The cockpit area is about 90% complete, the seat from the Brengun PE Set and belts are HGW.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4221.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4221.jpg.html)

The instruments are a mix of the kit ones and a scratch built one, all with PE Bezils added, decals from the spares box with Future lenses. The control rods for the fuel and oil selectors were added, the wire bracing lines at the extreme front, some "plumbing" lines as well, and a scratch built spark advance selector and control was added to the left side. (more or less hidden behind the seat side)
   
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4222.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4222.jpg.html)

   The "baffle" behind the seat is from the Brengun Photo Etch Set as well.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4223.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4223.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4226.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4226.jpg.html)

The wings and flight control surfaces all have received a coat of Tamiya Gloss white in preparation for the Aviattic Lozenge.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4227.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4227.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4229.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4229.jpg.html)

   Finally, perfect timing with the arrival of yesterday's mail; the package from Aviattic with the resin Siemens-Halske SHIII Engine and the 45 Degree joined lozenge.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4231.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4231.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4235.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4235.jpg.html)
   Sorry about the poor quality photo, but you get the effect I'm sure!
   Next is a welcome break from the cockpit detailing, that engine is going to be a long and busy session or two and I'm looking forward to some decaling as well.
    Still going well, the Kit is a solid basis for a good model however it's not a "perfect out of the box" contender!
Cheers,
Lance

Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: coyotemagic on November 07, 2015, 05:26:36 AM
Beautiful update, Lance!  The interior is looking gorgeous.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on November 07, 2015, 05:30:17 AM
Very great work and paint, Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 07, 2015, 05:47:18 AM
   Thanks Bud and Martin. That machro setting on the camera can be brutal!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on November 07, 2015, 06:58:42 AM
Superb work on the interior Lance, and the engine cowl turned out looking perfect.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: uncletony on November 07, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Super stuff Lance. Was hoping you'd upgrade to the Aviattic SSH, it's a beautiful kit unto itself.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: petrov27 on November 07, 2015, 08:40:40 AM
Coming together very nicely indeed!
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 07, 2015, 08:53:18 AM
Thanks Des, Bo, and Petrov,
     Yes, the Aviattic SSH Kit looks really impressive, so much so that I have entertained thoughts of building the Kit Engine for the aircraft and having the Resin version on a Maintenance Stand beside the aircraft. Seems a shame to hide something like that under a cowling and oversized spinner, but then look at what we all do to our cockpits! :-\ :-\
   Got the bottom surface of the lower wing done in lozenge this PM, going well so far!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Ernie on November 07, 2015, 11:30:20 AM
Absolutely superb progress, Lance! The PE set is first rate and you have really
shown it in it's best light, the louvers in particular.  The cockpit is turning into
an absolute jewel...as you said, such a shame to hide it.  Thinking along those
lines, your idea of displaying the Aviattic engine separately is an excellent one
I think.  Two terrific models in one gorgeous diorama? :D  Brilliant job, and
looking forward to the next updates, my friend!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: jknaus on November 07, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
I missed this somehow. Really looking good Lance, and more tricks of the trade are being revealed. I'm watching with great intrest now.
James
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Pgtaylorart on November 07, 2015, 03:51:33 PM
Stretched sprue on the cowling looks like an absolutely masterful job, Lance. And, I love the woodwork! Great color and convincing, subtle grain patterns!

You're definitely making me consider purchasing my first non-WnW WWI kit!

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

Yes, Lance, you are doing amazing work on your D.III. I've been tempted to buy this kit also, especially now that I've seen what you've done with it!

George
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 07, 2015, 11:51:55 PM
    Thanks Ernie, it's an idea that's growing on me. Michael and George, thank you for the encouraging comments, it's a reasonable Kit and a good exercise in "back to basics" modelling. It certainly has some fit issues (dry fitting of the lower wing to fuselage indicates some real short comings to deal with) and there isn't one locating pin anywhere in the mix! James, you're close enough to probably hear the screams and whimpering as this progresses and the bag of tricks gets depleted! :o
    Onwards and upwards! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
 
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Pgtaylorart on November 08, 2015, 03:24:35 AM
Sorry about all the fit issues. It still looks like you've been able to do good things with it. The SS D.III is a sexy little airplane. If I ever want one in 1/32 this is the kit I'll have to buy since WnW most likely won't be producing one anytime soon.

George
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 08, 2015, 04:39:02 AM
George,
    I don't want to create the impression that it's really bad, it just needs a little extra work to make it work, if you follow. It's one mean looking machine, kind of reminds me of a P-47 of it's own generation, all business and no mercy! I'd guess, had Germany not been running short on the proper lubricants, this machine could well have been right up there with the Fokker DVII, it was an excellent interceptor as long as the engine kept running.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: spartacus2000 on November 08, 2015, 06:43:28 AM
Hi Lance 
great work done until now, I really like the cockpit.
Waiting to see the next update.
Saluti
Marco
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 08, 2015, 06:58:26 AM
Thank you, Marco, I should have another update with the Lozenge done soon.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: iwik on November 08, 2015, 06:52:47 PM
Hi!
Eheheh, getting along VERY nicely!
Keep it up!
Ciao
IWik
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: LukasTheLight on November 08, 2015, 08:38:29 PM
Hi Lance!!!!

Great to see you progressing brilliantly all around!!! ;) Looking forward for more!!!

Cheerio
Lukas
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 08, 2015, 11:30:51 PM
Iwik, Lukas,
   Thanks for the encouragement, it keeps a fellow motivated! :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on November 08, 2015, 11:44:12 PM
Lance,
Gorgeous work on your interior! The PE, added instruments, and lines are certainly an enhancement and worth the effort. It really is nice to see someone taking on a Roden Kit for a change! Spectacular work to date!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: mgunns on November 09, 2015, 08:15:15 AM
Hi Lance:

This is coming along nicely, nice to see it seeing the light of day and being built.  The work thus far is outstanding in all regards.  The work is clean and tidy.  Looking forward to your take on the engine and seeing the Lozenge go on the wings.
Until that time
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 09, 2015, 08:47:11 AM
Rick, Mark, and Michael,
    Thanks, your compliments are appreciated a lot! I guess if a cattle prod has entered into the equation I'd better do a few more rib tapes tonight, it's a slow process! ???
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 10, 2015, 11:04:32 PM
Hi Lance - just caught up with this again. Lovely work on the cockpit and that cowl - though a bit late this time you're giving me ideas ;)

How did you get your HGW seat belts to form to the seat? Tried with mine this morning with no success so reverted to Ali foil.

This is going to look a stunning model when done - keep at it

regards - Tug
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: jknaus on November 11, 2015, 02:00:55 AM
Looking good Lance. Cant wait to see your build of the engine too.
James
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 11, 2015, 07:01:24 AM
Thanks James, I should have the rib tapes done sometime in the next year or two, and the engine should be not far behind! ;)
Tug, thank you! I use CA to spot glue the belts at various points to get the right "arrangement". I find moving or posing them with the point of a #11 Hobby Knife blade works well, when happy I apply a drop of CA and move on to the next point or belt.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 11, 2015, 07:44:05 AM
Thanks Lance - that's interesting as I fought shy of using cyano in case it wicked through the fabric and made it hard and brittle. I'll try some experimenting with the belts I have left - I used them as templates for the ali foil!

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Oeli on November 11, 2015, 08:00:19 AM
Hi Lance,

I just stumbled only on your building report.
What a beautiful model.
I'm a fan WnW, but unfortunately do not have this type in the program.
As it stands, however, the kit by Roden also seems to be good.
And with the accessories there arises a real gem.
From now on I'm not going to leave your side, and follow the presentation on.
A very good template for my own Siemens Schuckert!

So long and regards
Jörg
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 11, 2015, 12:59:30 PM
Michael,
     I try to only apply paint to the "outside" of the belts and I don't bother to remove paint from the seat surface, it seems to work fine. I use Medium CA to assemble the belts as well, but MINIMUM quantities for both.
Jorg, Thank You for the interest and nice comments!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 15, 2015, 06:13:33 AM
    I elected to finish the flying surfaces next; they are now completely covered in their lozenge pattern fabric decals , rib and edge tapes done, and a sealer coat of Future done.
   All Lozenge is from Aviattic, 5 Colour (Faded) using the 45 Degree Joined stock for the upper wing and the same Full Pattern Width applied span wise to the lower wing and flight control surfaces.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4238.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4238.jpg.html)

   The larger sections were segmented to keep the application process controllable.......

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4240.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4240.jpg.html)

    The rib and edge tapes were cut from the 5 Colour Upper (White Decal Paper) version and applied with a light application of Microsol to ensure adhesion until the sealer coat was added.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4246.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4246.jpg.html)

    After drying overnight the hand brushed top coat of Future was applied leaving them ready for the national marking decals, then a coat of Vallejo Clear Flat Varnish, and some Post Shading.
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4248.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4248.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4250.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4250.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4253.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4253.jpg.html)

   Next on the Bench is the Aviattic Siemens-Halske SH III Resin Engine, a "model in itself" which should be a real challenge to this oldster's failing eyes and sausage fingers as Kornbeef calls them!
Cheers,
Lance

 
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on November 15, 2015, 06:58:02 AM
An excellent job applying the decals Lance, the edge tapes and rib tapes also turned out perfectly.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on November 15, 2015, 08:36:40 AM
Very great work to the Lozenge Decals Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 15, 2015, 09:33:07 AM
Neat work on the decals Lance - keep it coming  ;)

Tug
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 15, 2015, 10:08:15 AM
Thanks gents; the macro lens shows the edge tapes are actually a little rough in places I'm afraid. As for the cattle prod, Michael, I'll ensure I keep well ahead of it! :o
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Ernie on November 15, 2015, 06:32:26 PM
Beautiful work on the lozenge, Lance!  You know, those
macro lenses lie more than mirrors. ;)  This is an exceptional
build and can only get better with the Aviattic engine.  Great
update, my friend!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 16, 2015, 12:05:44 AM
Many Thanks Ernie. The "macro" can be a de-motivator I agree; when it gets really bad I just take off my glasses and everything looks really good! :P
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: GAJouette on November 16, 2015, 02:11:36 PM
  Lance,
Very impressive decal application my old friend. Keep up the beautifully skilled progress!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Nigel Jackson on November 16, 2015, 06:42:22 PM
Superb work on the decals, Lance, but then the whole project is shaping up beautifully. Maybe it's hotdog rather than sausage fingers!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: jknaus on November 16, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
Man that looks good Lance. I wonder why they offset the lozenges?
James
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 17, 2015, 01:31:23 AM
Greg, Nigel and James,
   Many Thanks for the endorsements!
   James, I haven't seen any comments regarding the "why" of the 45 Degree application, only a common one that states the upper wing (top and bottom surfaces) was done that way at the factory, the rest being done in the conventional span-wise fashion.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Pgtaylorart on November 17, 2015, 03:43:09 AM
Man that looks good Lance. I wonder why they offset the lozenges?
James

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand, the diagonal application of the lozenge linen was done for strength. It works the same as diagonal cross bracing.

George
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: vincentm on November 17, 2015, 11:26:56 AM
Beautiful work on the lozenges. It's going to be an eye-candy model.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 17, 2015, 12:11:20 PM
Man that looks good Lance. I wonder why they offset the lozenges?
James

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand, the diagonal application of the lozenge linen was done for strength. It works the same as diagonal cross bracing.

George

    I hadn't thought of that, George, but it could very well be. I was wondering about the width of the Lozenge fabric bolts being less then the chord until I looked at the Albies, Pfalz, and D.VII's in my display case; they have larger chords and are not offset.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 17, 2015, 12:16:18 PM
Michael and Vincent,
   Thanks for the encouraging comments, they are much appreciated!  :) :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on November 18, 2015, 12:28:23 AM
This continues to be an impressive build ! Your lozenge has turned out beautifully! I am looking forward to seeing that Engine!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Alexis on November 19, 2015, 07:49:55 AM
Lance , must say that your build is moving forward nicely . The wings turned out great with the lozenge  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 19, 2015, 09:23:02 AM
Thank you both, Rick and Terri. The engine continues to progress but slowly, there's some mighty small parts in that snazzy little plastic box it arrived in! I'm also pecking away at other parts of the Kit to provide a break from the eye test challenge of working with tiny parts! Hopefully I can complete it in the next few days and get an update with some photos posted here.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on November 19, 2015, 10:03:51 AM
Looking forward to seeing what you do with the engine Lance.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 27, 2015, 07:19:14 AM
Finally, another update. I've completed the engines except for a little more weathering which will get added when the airframe is done. I elected to complete both the Aviattic Siemens-Halske DIII and the Roden Kit version, one will be mounted in the aircraft, the other displayed in a "cradle" beside the model.
The Roden version builds up quite nicely, the only serious shortfall being the pushrods all molded on a single part and too thick for scale.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4272.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4272.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4276.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4276.jpg.html)

   Both engines were done in various shades of Alclad II. I found the instruction sheet for the After Market one a little vague on how much of a "base" to leave on the individual cylinders, after mounting four of the eleven and finding the engine's diameter too big for the cowling I had to backtrack, reduce their length/height significantly, and then all was well.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4258.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4258.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4254.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4254.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4256.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4256.jpg.html)

   The pushrods call for .3mm brass tubing, I elected to use the same size stainless guitar wire.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4257.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4257.jpg.html)

   Although I struggled with parts of the assembly the end result is quite a nice component, and will probably be the one displayed beside the model. The pushrod couplings at the crankcase end gave me particular grief as my fat arthritic fingers and even smallest tweezers proved a bit of a liability!

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4268.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4268.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4271.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4271.jpg.html)

.....and for comparison, the Aviattic Engine on the right........

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4280.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4280.jpg.html)

    In between engine building sessions I completed the cockpit basics and closed the fuselage. I still have a bit of paint touchup to complete around the coaming. Before closing I enclosed the three handgrip wells with paper thin evergreen styrene burnished to provide some depth.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4261.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4261.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4259.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4259.jpg.html)

   The control column gun trigger cables, throttles and cables were added, tie downs done with lead shrink seal material from my favorite Scotch bottle. I still have to add the gun synchronisation cables to the upper cowling assembly. The aileron push rods have been added since the photo was taken.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4289.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4289.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4290.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4290.jpg.html)

   The fuselage closed reasonably well, the joins were filled and sanded, and the basic colours applied. (Tamiya thinned 50/50 and airbrushed) The blue is my own mix of several Tamiya Blues.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4285.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4285.jpg.html)

   The upper cowling piece is "posed" for the photo.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4281.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4281.jpg.html)

   The inadvertent "lens" on the handhold (Future sealant coat) has been trimmed off!

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4283.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4283.jpg.html)

The lower wing is also posed in these photos. The fitting of the lower wing assembly to the fuselage is the greatest challenge to this point, I'll detail that in the next update. Given the fit issues to this point I wouldn't recommend this Kit as a Beginner's project however the subject is impossible to resist. She was probably a joy to fly while the engine stayed together!

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4284.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4284.jpg.html)

    That's the progress as of today. More to follow sooner rather then later I hope!
Cheers,
Lance



Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Oeli on November 27, 2015, 07:22:10 AM
Hi,

very nice work, it´s so great!
The engine, the Cockpit. Can´t wait to see the finish.

Kindly regards

Jörg



Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 27, 2015, 07:28:04 AM
Thank you so much, Jorg. Coming from someone of your skills that means a lot!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: iwik on November 27, 2015, 07:33:05 AM
Hi!
Hehe! Moving on quite nicely!
Keep it up!
Ciao
Iwik
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Pgtaylorart on November 27, 2015, 07:34:05 AM
Beautiful update, Lance! Nice work on the engines. The Aviattic engine is a bit finer than the Roden, but you've done a great job on both! The main difference I see in the two engines is the thickness of the pushrods.

George
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on November 27, 2015, 07:41:27 AM
An excellent update Lance. You have done a super job with the cockpit interior and the work you did on the control column is excellent, the method you used to cover the inside of the hand holds is very simple but clever, looking forward to seeing more updates.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 27, 2015, 07:47:51 AM
Thank you all, George, Iwik, and Des. Iwik, I've referred back to your earlier Build on numerous occasions, it was particularly helpful in determining the final instrument layout. The Aviattic Engine is very finely detailed, I wish I could have done a better job on it but with a little bit of oil and grease to cover my sins it will look just fine I'm sure.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on November 27, 2015, 08:33:16 AM
Very great engines, but I think that the aviattic one looks much better.
An outstanding update to all Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 27, 2015, 08:39:37 AM
Many Thanks Martin. The Aviattic version is much better; I may still go back and replace the Roden push rods as well.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on November 27, 2015, 09:01:49 AM
Nice work all round Lance - it's all coming together extremely well. Those decals look so good I've just bought my first in anticipation  :)

It's a great subject and I'm looking forward to seeing it all come together

regards - Tug
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 27, 2015, 09:51:30 AM
Thank you for the nice words Tug. The decal Sheet is a real winner IMO, I had a heck of a time deciding which scheme I wanted to do!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 27, 2015, 10:13:01 AM
As always Lance, you're doing a superb job on this project. I have enough challenge building and detailing one engine and here you are building two, just for the fun of it! I bow to the master!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 27, 2015, 11:11:31 AM
Thanks for the very kind words Chris. Built 2 engines.....yes, master?..... not, as you can see. I do like the results on the Aviattic version, it should add a lot to the model whether in or beside.....
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: mgunns on November 27, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
Hi Lance:

I think the engines turned out great.  I like the finer pushrods on the Aviattic version, but the kit ones don't look too bad either.  The model itself is coming along nicely.  I too am looking forward to seeing it completed.
Until that time
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 27, 2015, 01:15:40 PM
Thanks Mark, the push rods definitely need replacing on the Roden version. I'll be taking a very critical look at that process before I start any "ripping and tearing"!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 27, 2015, 05:41:31 PM
Superb work, Lance!
You keep raising the bar with each and every update  ;)

Well done.

vB
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 27, 2015, 11:35:18 PM
Thank you vB. It's going reasonably well thus far and progress will hopefully quicken from this point.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Rob on November 28, 2015, 12:39:16 AM
A great build Lance. All the elements are coming together nicely. As one slow builder to another, I look forward to seeing her finished. Even if it takes awhile :)
v/r,
Rob
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: IFF1418 on November 28, 2015, 02:36:45 AM
Hello Lance,

I am so sorry, but better late than never my friend. I am amazed of the quality you produced, but then again it is the normal high standard and Lance perfection we are used to. The additional modeling work you did is fantastic, the interior is lovely, you did a great job with the pe and the engine is magnificent. A truly amazing and enjoyable to follow build!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: jknaus on November 28, 2015, 05:15:28 AM
WOW that engine is very nice. And the rest, just awesome Lance. Beautiful work.
James
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 28, 2015, 07:00:54 AM
Rob, Patrick, and James,
   Wow, thank you, I must have really "screened" the photos well! Great encouragement and very much appreciated, I'll try to get the next update done sooner this go around!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on November 28, 2015, 08:23:36 AM
Lance,
Your engines look stunning! The finer detail on the Aviattic version really stands out but the kit engine is also a winner! Your interior looks gorgeous in place!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 28, 2015, 09:48:22 AM
Thanks Rick. Now I have to make a decision on which engine goes where. I'm leaning towards the Aviattic version displayed beside the model as it seems a shame to cover up that fine detail. The push rods on the Kit version could be replaced without too much effort.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: GAJouette on November 28, 2015, 09:57:09 AM
 lance,
Wow her new engine is something else my old friend. Very impressive detail from Aviattic .Keep up the outstanding progress,all your hardwork is paying off in spades.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: vincentm on November 28, 2015, 10:58:55 AM
Wow, really great work. I looked some pages back, very impressive and realistic job on the ribs. The metal cowling panels and detailed engine are also a great improvement.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: dtomko on November 28, 2015, 11:29:47 AM
Beautiful work, Lance!  I agree with Rick; the Roden engine is nice, obviously not as finely done as the Aviattic, but inside the cowl it will probably look good.  That interior is outstanding.

Drew
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 28, 2015, 11:32:49 AM
Greg, Vincent,
   Your comments are much appreciated! This Roden subject is certainly generating a lot of interest, IMHO the subject modelled is the biggest factor. A beautiful aircraft and not likely to be done by the "Big Boys from NZ" which is where Roden fits in so well, at least with my desires for the collection. I've got their Pfalz DIII in the Stash, three of their releases already built, and hopefully they'll see their way to some more future releases. As I said at the beginning, a project that requires a little improvisation and back to "basics" now and then keeps one sharp!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 28, 2015, 11:34:08 AM
Thanks Drew, your comments are appreciated!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Alexis on November 29, 2015, 12:03:54 AM
Hey Lance , bot engines turned out really well , nice work on the metal effects  :)





Terri
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 29, 2015, 12:55:05 AM
Thanks for looking Terri, and for your comments. :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: coyotemagic on November 29, 2015, 02:32:20 AM
Magnificent work on both engines, Lance!  Your control column really looks the business.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: jeroen_R90S on November 29, 2015, 05:17:33 AM
Although the subject doesn't do a lot for me, that is one great looking model in progress!
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 29, 2015, 05:34:15 AM
Thanks for looking in, Jeroen, and Bud as well. Presently finishing off the wing/fuselage join and some decals. Almost time to do some Post Shading, Bud, a trick I owe to a "Wiley Coyote" you are fairly close to! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: gedmundson on November 30, 2015, 01:20:48 PM
Hey Lance,
Just been catching up on your updates- awesome work and keep it up. I'm looking forward to more. This one is turning into a real masterpiece.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on November 30, 2015, 11:32:11 PM
Thanks Gary, progress is slow, one step forward, two back presently. I'm in the process of replacing the push rods on the Kit engine, a sucker for punishment apparently!!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 01, 2015, 04:57:48 AM
     Another update, smaller then the last but still making progress. I 've mated the fuselage and the bottom wing components, not a pretty sight before some considerable trimming of the join areas. I neglected to take a "before" photo showing the, at least 1 mm step from the bottom wing fuselage panel to the bottom of the fuselage proper. The solution, as suggested by Rowan in the Pheon Booklet for the decals, was a slight trimming of the fuselage sides of the wing fairings and a considerable removal (probably over 1 mm at the forward part) of material from the base of the center section as shown in the photo below.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4293.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4293.jpg.html)

   There was still a considerable "step" once the upper surfaces were fitted so a few layers of filler and, lots of sanding, and several coats of Tamiya Surface Primer were added, the whole thing sanded, and a final repair coat of the blue applied.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4295.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4295.jpg.html)

  After the addition of the horizontal stab and elevator the entire assembly received two coats of Future, dried overnight, and the decals were applied. They will all be given several light coats of Vallejo Polyurethane Flat Varnish in preparation for post Shading with chalk pastels next.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4301.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4301.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4306.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4306.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4303.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4303.jpg.html)

  Finally, I decided to replace those oversized push rods on the Roden Engine. It's some very "close" work, seems to take about 30 minutes per pair so that's going to be up to 6 hours bench time unless I get much better at it! I'm cutting out the rods, then drilling out the connecter fittings at both ends and replacing them on the stainless steel rods at both ends. Modelling by Braille I call it..........  Credit and thanks to Bo for the loan of his Giant Match for illustration purposes, it will be returned unless I need it to burn the engine should this not be successful! :-\ :P

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4297.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4297.jpg.html)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: kornbeef on December 01, 2015, 05:01:35 AM
Doing a wonderful job there Lance.

A kit I've hovered over purchasing many times.

Keith
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 01, 2015, 05:06:49 AM
Keith,
   Bit of a challenge as a Kit but in your hands it would be mere putty! Great subject and I've not seen many built. If you do get it let me know if you'd like some unused decals for it!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on December 01, 2015, 06:03:48 AM
Lovely job with the lozenge decals and the fuselage paint work, what colour did did you use for the forward section of the fuselage. Even though it may be time consuming the work to replace the push rods will be well worth it.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on December 01, 2015, 06:12:35 AM
Very great work at all Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 01, 2015, 06:58:04 AM
Thanks for looking and for your comments, Des and Martin. Des, the front portion of the fuselage is Tamiya X-2 White, two coats at 40 % lacquer thinner airbrushed over Alclad II Dull Aluminum and hairspray for the chipping.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on December 01, 2015, 08:09:36 AM
Thanks Lance, information has been stored for future reference  :)

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 01, 2015, 08:54:48 AM
Nice work again Lance  :) it's going to be a very colourful model once complete. Lovely paintwork and those push rods look so much better too. Keep at it, the time will soon pass  ;)

Tug
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 01, 2015, 09:31:21 AM
Thanks for the response Tug and Michael, she is a colourful little devil in this scheme!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on December 01, 2015, 09:41:10 AM
shes really coming alon nicely lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on December 02, 2015, 12:57:57 AM
That is a stunning paint job! Not that it was unexpected  :D Lovely work and lovely scheme! Your wing lozenge and crosses look awesome also!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 02, 2015, 01:01:20 AM
Justin, Rick,
   Thanks for checking her out and for your much appreciated comments. More photos to follow soon.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Nigel Jackson on December 02, 2015, 03:11:45 AM
I really like what you're doing with this one, Lance. The little barrel is not my favourite aircraft, but your super work is helping me to appreciate its appeal!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 02, 2015, 03:31:51 AM
Great!  This is really coming along.  I love the blue, the white markings and the lozenge.  What a cool little machine.

Cheers,

Dan
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 02, 2015, 03:41:26 AM
Great to see you changing out the rods on the engine. It's a fiddley job that takes a bit of time, but it improves the look immensely!

George
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 02, 2015, 07:11:31 AM
Thanks Nigel, Dan, and George. The SSW D.III has always appealed to me, does look like a flying barrel but reminds me of the P-47 Thunderbolt, mean and all business! I'm just getting back to those engine pushrods after finishing the prep work on all the struts and landing gear, as you say George, it's just a little fiddley but should improve the looks quite a bit.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: IFF1418 on December 04, 2015, 08:16:32 PM
Outstanding Lance my friend! Wonderful cowling colour! Teriffic modeling as we are used to see again and again coming out of your talented hands!

Kind regards
Patrick
 
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: PrzemoL on December 04, 2015, 09:21:16 PM
Fine work all around, Lance. I wish you patience with the push rods, this issue is surely worth correcting.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 05, 2015, 02:32:58 AM
Thanks Patrick and Prze, your comments are very much appreciated! I'm presently still working on the pushrod replacements on the kit engine, some very delicate work, particularly drilling out the "lifter" ends of the originals once cut away. Although a slow operation it is going well, so far. Once all installed I'll have to repaint, especially the brass components which have mostly lost their paint with all of the handling.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4310.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4310.jpg.html)

    I also have completed the flat clear coats on the various components in preparation for shading and weathering. The Vallejo Polyurethane Matt Varnish is an excellent product; I was able to do 2 light coats in the same session, no staining or "clouding" whatsoever.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4311.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4311.jpg.html)

   Again, Thanks for looking in and for the encouragement. :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 05, 2015, 02:41:48 AM
Beautiful work, Lance! The pushrods are coming along nicely!

George
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Ernie on December 05, 2015, 04:29:49 AM
Excellent update Lance!  The Vallejo varnish worked a treat, didn't it?  Your painstaking
work replacing the push rods will pay off dividends...terrific work.  I didn't think much
of the Schuckert to tell the truth, but in watching your magic, I am warming to it. :o
Really fine work, my friend. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :) 

Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 05, 2015, 05:24:46 AM
Thank you both, George and Ernie. I got in a really good bench session this morning :) and the push rod/crankcase assembly is done, presently the touch up paint is drying. I hope to get a photo or two posted later today.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 05, 2015, 05:33:51 AM
Your patience is paying off there Lance - those push rods look far better  :)

The whole project is coming on so well - I'm really looking forwards to seeing this in 'all it's glory'.

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on December 05, 2015, 06:16:48 AM
Exellent work Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: macsporran on December 05, 2015, 11:05:52 AM
Inspirational work Lance, thank you for posting. Can't wait to see it finished.
Do you mind me asking what you thinned the Vallejo Polyurethane Varnish with?
Thanks, Sandy
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 05, 2015, 03:04:09 PM
Tug, Martin, Thanks so much for the encouraging comments, means a lot!

Sandy,
   Thank you as well. The longer part of the answer.......... I have struggled with Gloss and Matt or Satin clear overcoats for years and finally found these (New) products through one of our members, Chris Johnson. They are OUTSTANDING products, and I'm sold on them. Polyurethane Varnish in Gloss(#26.650), Satin (#26.652) and Matt(#26.651) The short answer, the thinner used with them is Vallejo "Airbrush Thinner" #71.161. They work well over enamels, acrylics, lacquers, and even Future applied as a gloss before decaling. I use a 40/60 ratio of thinner to varnish respectively and the normal 20-23 psi pressure on the airbrush. Drying on the matt is almost immediate and I can apply a second coat within 10 minutes if keeping the coats light.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on December 05, 2015, 03:40:04 PM
Your finish looks superb Lance. Thanks to you, and indirectly Chris for the info on the Valejo clear coats. I will need to pick some up!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 06, 2015, 08:43:19 AM
   Thank you Rick, and yes, I highly recommend the stuff.
   Here's the quick photos of the completed engines with the Kit version's pushrods replaced. The Aviattic version with the final oil residue weathering added:

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4318.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4318.jpg.html)

   The Kit supplied engine ready to install..........

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4319.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4319.jpg.html)

.........and a comparison shot, the Kit version on the left.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4317.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4317.jpg.html)

   The Aviattic engine definitely has better detail and will be displayed beside the aircraft in a suitable stand or carrying frame. The Kit engine will be installed in the aircraft and thus mostly hidden.
   Now it's back to shading and weathering of the aircraft.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 06, 2015, 08:49:22 AM
That's amazing, Lance! Changing just the pushrods has brought the kit engine up to almost the same level as the Aviattic. In fact, with the engine installed in the cowling, you probably wouldn't notice the difference (but don't tell Richard that" ;) :D )  Of course, your beautiful paint job goes a long way to enhance the look also.

George
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on December 06, 2015, 09:20:30 AM
I will have to chase down the clear coats you speak of Lance, they give a superb result.

Excellent work on the kit engine push rods, the new ones certainly make the engine look more to scale, well worth the effort. The comparison shot shows very little difference between the two engine but the Aviattic example is a bit sharper in detail.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 06, 2015, 09:25:56 AM
Both engines do you proud Lance - nice work indeed  :).

I can concur on your findings with the Vallejo varnish though for myself only on the Semi Matt. It sprays so easily and gives a beautiful finish that dries very quickly.

Keep it coming  ;)

Tug
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on December 06, 2015, 09:33:33 AM
The Aviattic Engine is stunning. The detail is beautiful! Your work on bringing the kit engine so close to the Aviattic one is Brilliant! Both are beautifully painted and weathered!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Alexis on December 06, 2015, 11:35:06 AM
Excellent work on both engines Lance , replacing the push rods on Rodens offering enhances the over all effect .




Terri
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 06, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
Many Thanks, All, for taking the time to look and comment. Replacing the pushrods proved well worth the time and effort! Next update should follow once the Post Shading is completed; two days from now hopefully......... real life considerations allowing.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Pgtaylorart on December 06, 2015, 01:05:12 PM
Many Thanks, All, for taking the time to look and comment. Replacing the pushrods proved well worth the time and effort! Next update should follow once the Post Shading is completed; two days from now hopefully......... real life considerations allowing.
Cheers,
Lance

"real life considerations"? Where's your priorities, man? There's modeling to be done! ;D

George
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: coyotemagic on December 06, 2015, 03:20:16 PM
Your work on both engines is top notch, Lance!  Either could be displayed as a stand alone model.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Ernie on December 06, 2015, 08:49:09 PM
Bravo Lance!  The finished engines are just gorgeous.  Of course
the Aviattic version has much nicer detail, but you have really
enhanced the kit version as well.  Very pleasing update, my friend!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 07, 2015, 01:24:55 AM
Bud, Ernie, many thanks for the kind remarks. Your eyes must be as "liberal" in their perceptions as mine! ::)
George, that's the whole point, priorities! Mine are clear, SWMBO on the other hand has some misconceptions, or at least contradictions that I ignore only at great peril! :o
Cheers All,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on December 07, 2015, 01:39:51 AM
Both engines are very beautiful Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 07, 2015, 02:44:32 AM
Thank you Martin! Your comment is much appreciated! :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: macsporran on December 07, 2015, 03:19:30 AM
Thank you for the varnish info Lance. I just had a bit of a disaster with a Spitfire model, where I gave it a final coat of Tamiya Flat Base thinking it was a varnish, but as it dried and a whitish haze appeared I realized it was more of a primer!!!
Fortunately a clear coat restored things mostly and the slight haze gives quite a good scale effect - but I want to be in charge rather than trust to luck.
I'd picked up a bottle of the gloss polyurethane varnish but was a bit scared to thin it as I know how sensitive Vallejo paints are.
So, again, many thanks for the excellent answer.
Sandy
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: uncletony on December 07, 2015, 06:08:06 AM
Thank you for the varnish info Lance. I just had a bit of a disaster with a Spitfire model, where I gave it a final coat of Tamiya Flat Base thinking it was a varnish, but as it dried and a whitish haze appeared I realized it was more of a primer!!!

Actually Sandy, it is meant to be mixed in with gloss varnish or gloss paint to make it matte or flat. If memory serves, you can get a nice matte coat by mixing 5 or 6 parts Tamiya Clear gloss to 1 part Flat base. (Experiment of course before spraying it on your model)
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: macsporran on December 07, 2015, 07:47:10 AM
Ah-ha! Thank you Bo - valuable information indeed. I'd mixed it 50/50 with clear and then added thinners, I'll try again with the sort of ratios you recommend. Many thanks.
Sorry for diversion, Lance, back to your beautiful SS D.III.
S
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: uncletony on December 07, 2015, 07:56:08 AM
Yes Lance, sorry for the hijack, and Bravo!
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: kornbeef on December 07, 2015, 08:09:43 AM
Nice work on both engines, it would be a shame to hide that gorgeous Avviatic engine under the cowls after all. But what you did with the kit engine makes it shine anyway. 

Keith
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 07, 2015, 02:26:41 PM
   No apologies necessary Sandy and Bo, all good information. Thanks for the comments and to Keith as well. It's pretty clear the Aviattic Engine gets the open spot beside the aircraft, the kit version will be partially buried under that huge cowling.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Adam on December 07, 2015, 10:54:00 PM
Engines looks excellent, with this weathering they are looking like real.

Adam.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 08, 2015, 12:32:44 AM
Thank You Adam, I appreciate your comments. 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: jknaus on December 08, 2015, 01:25:10 AM
Another beaut Lance. Love your builds.
James
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 08, 2015, 07:22:27 AM
Thanks James!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: mgunns on December 12, 2015, 12:12:02 AM
Hi Lance:

The enigne work you did really stands out.  As mentioned it brings the engine to life and certainly up to a standard of excellence.  The paint scheme looks good as well.   This is going to be another stunner of build.

Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 12, 2015, 07:14:38 AM
So far an enjoyable Build Mark. It's certainly not a "fall together" Kit like the boys and girls from NZ are selling these days but it goes together well with a little improvisation. Thanks for checking it out and for the comments.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 12, 2015, 07:55:14 AM
   Another update before I get ahead too far. The post shading and the initial weathering has been done and the entire structure given a few light coats of Vallejo Satin Polyurethane Varnish. So far dry chalk pastels and weathering pigments only have been applied.
   The rib shading is lighter then I usually apply it to give this model a "newer" look.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4321.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4321.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4339_1.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4339_1.jpg.html)

   Just a bit of oil residue streaked onto the vertical and horizontal stabs:


(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4340.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4340.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4341.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4341.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4326.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4326.jpg.html)

   At this point I thought I'd go for a change of pace and get the wood prop built. Based on the photos in the Data File I started with a very dark and very light pair of veneers from the "tickle trunk" and followed my usual method. This prop would require two blanks to construct a 4 bladed one so four laminated blanks were produced to allow for back ups should one or two get spoiled.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4327.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4327.jpg.html)

   The strips sorted and ready for the gluing and vice clamping stage:

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   The Blanks ready for carving:

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   The ugly part!

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   Two props become one 4 bladed one, final sanding and trimming to fit the spinner completed. You'll notice that Mr. Smooth Hand managed to break the blades at the 2 and 8 oclock positions; luckily the spinner will cover the repair spots!

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4336.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4336.jpg.html)

   And "posed" final assembly. The prop has since been given a shot of Golden Oak wood stain and will be given a coat or two of satin polyurethane once that dries. the one blade will need a small chip patched up prior to that.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4337.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4337.jpg.html)

    And that's where she stands at present. Next step is some drilling and installation of some buckles before getting the final assembly stage going. I'm looking forward to seeing this one all together, it's certainly a nice looking subject, just ugly enough to be pretty!
Cheers,
Lance

Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on December 12, 2015, 08:40:06 AM
You have made an outstanding prop and very beautiful Lozenge Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on December 12, 2015, 08:43:12 AM
Great job with the shading on the lozenge, not overly done and the work you did making the propeller is amazing, I'm looking forward to seeing the propeller completed.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: coyotemagic on December 12, 2015, 09:20:56 AM
Your post shading and weathering are superb, Lance, and that prop is AWESOME!  This is shaping up to be a real show stopper.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 12, 2015, 09:28:20 AM
  Thank you Martin, Des, and Bud for your comments. It's nice to have the hard part of the prop behind, this was my first attempt at a four bladed one and. to my surprise, I only had to use two of the four blanks. It's nice when a plan comes together........ :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on December 12, 2015, 09:28:38 AM
Your post shading and weathering are superb, Lance, and that prop is AWESOME!  This is shaping up to be a real show stopper.
Cheers,
Bud

I couldn't agree more with my Amigo ! Superb work on the Lozenge shading and the Prop!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: dtomko on December 12, 2015, 09:39:09 AM
Ditto!  The shading is fantastic and that prop is just gorgeous!

Drew
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 12, 2015, 09:39:22 AM
Thanks very much, Rick and Drew!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: bobs_buckles on December 12, 2015, 09:50:57 AM
That Prop is something else! Well done, Lance!

vB  :o
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Alexis on December 12, 2015, 11:16:33 AM
Wonderful job on the prop Lance  :)





Terri
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: uncletony on December 12, 2015, 12:35:48 PM
That prop will be the pièce de résistance on this build, LC.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: gedmundson on December 12, 2015, 01:29:55 PM
Hello Lance,
My hat is off to you for the work you did on those propellers - wow! So very impressive.

Also you are a brave man to tape over the lozenge decals, to get that weathered effect on the wing ribs. I could guarantee that my luck would have that tape peeling off the decal ending up in some sort of chaotic un-fixable mess!

You are making some great progress.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 12, 2015, 02:51:38 PM
von B, Terri and Bo, thank you much for the compliments on the prop. It can be a delicate little operation but this one was extremely forgiving! And you as well Gary. As for the taping I did lose two rib tapes which I had to replace. The old "tape on forehead and wrists for body oil trick" worked quite well. I think that technique came from Bo in my case. You just have to make sure you do a mirror check before you answer the door bell! :-[
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: IFF1418 on December 15, 2015, 03:17:57 AM
Hello Lance,

I can't but agree with everyone. Wonderful work on the lozenge and weathering and the prop, well I think that you master this so very well. How about starting a little prop factory? I think you would have a long client list!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on December 15, 2015, 03:37:31 AM
With a superb carving ability like that Lance you're not an ex rubber power free-flight aero-modeller by any chance are you  ;) Lovely work on that prop indeed.
Those lozenge decals certainly look the business too - that's a very realistic finish you've achieved  - every post is taking us ever closer to one very impressive model

Regards - Tug

Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: dr 1 ace on December 15, 2015, 06:03:31 AM
Your post shading and weathering are superb, Lance, and that prop is AWESOME!  This is shaping up to be a real show stopper.
Cheers,
Bud

I couldn't agree more with my Amigo ! Superb work on the Lozenge shading and the Prop!
RAGIII


Another ditto from the 3rd Amigo !

ed
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on December 15, 2015, 10:06:39 AM
Thanks so much, Patrick, Tug, and Ed. Your compliments are not lost on this Modeller, they are indeed appreciated.
Patrick, I'm afraid that at the pace I produce props my cliental would have to be very limited!
Tug, takes one to notice one I suppose. Yes, I spent several happy years immersed in rubber power and hand launched gliders many years ago. We had a Shop Teacher who was an avid Aero Modeller, he did it all including Control Line and some basic RC Modelling. He allowed us to use Shop Class time on flying models and awarded our grades on them; doesn't get any better for an 11-12 year old boy with a desire to fly!!! What a great teacher he was!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 06, 2016, 04:55:06 AM
    It's time for a very long overdue update on this Build. It's almost complete so I thought it would be a good time to get the Log up to date.
    First the rigging was attached at all it's lower terminals. I used Gas Patch 1:48 Turnbuckles on these lower fittings with 1.0 mm Bob's Buckles to complete the joins. The structural rigging wire is Maxima Chamelion .12 mm (2 # test) with Mr. Metal Colour "Stainless" #213.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4354.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4354.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4367.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4367.jpg.html)

Next step was the cabanes which, like all of the struts, were drilled and "pinned" with stainless steel guitar wire. They were mounted with CA using a simple spacing and alignment jig. I managed to snap off both Spandau barrels and one ring sight during this step but got lucky, found both barrels and had a PE spare of the ring sight, and saved them for re-installation later.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4353.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4353.jpg.html)

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   Next step was mounting the top wing which I neglected getting photos of. It was mounted on the cabanes first however the main struts didn't fit at all. I had to carefully break the wing off and the bottom connections of the main bay struts, ended up trimming about 2 MM off each aft strut of the latter, and then the assembly went quite well although there is a very minor bend in one when closely examined. With that done the upper rigging attachments were completed.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4368.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4368.jpg.html)

   I also did the cabane cross bracing using Modelkasten's 1:48 elastic thread for both the fore and aft positions. This view also shows the windscreen scratched out of a thicker clear stock then the Kit supplied version.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4364.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4364.jpg.html)

The elevator control cables were done with 0.11 mm mono and 1mm Bob's Buckles. The black over paint "glob" has since been touched up.

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   Next came the landing gear assembly, again facilitated with a simple jig and a level was used to ensure proper alignment.

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    The kit didn't provide any representation of the bungee suspension on the axle so lead wire was installed and painted with Tamiya's Deck Tan.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4377.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4377.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4376.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4376.jpg.html)

   I then installed the tail skid and added a bracket from scrap PE at the rear connection.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4379.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4379.jpg.html)

   Last, the gun barrels were re-installed and paint touch ups done followed by mounting the Kit's engine and the cowling, then completing the last rigging wire to the cowling.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4373.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4373.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4374.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4374.jpg.html)

   The final steps will be adding some oil and a bit of "dirt" and a final touch up. Hopefully she'll be completed by tomorrow!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on January 06, 2016, 05:31:03 AM
Brilliant update Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on January 06, 2016, 06:11:43 AM
Just absolutely perfect work Lance! The rigging is awesome!! A beautiful build all around from inside out. My friend Mac had one of these up for Auction and your build tempted me but I managed to resist  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 06, 2016, 06:27:31 AM
   Thanks for the nice comments Rick and Martin.
   Rick, you should have grabbed it, it builds up fairly well and the aircraft stands out as something a little different then most German Single Seaters.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Pgtaylorart on January 06, 2016, 06:39:34 AM
Beautiful! Your rigging is looking great, Lance! :)

George
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: LukasTheLight on January 06, 2016, 06:58:09 AM
Hi Lance!!!

Somehow I completely lost track about this build but went through it once again proved to be brilliant - engines look fantastic, I love that prop, I want to eventually try it myself and rigging is just sublime and all together looks so clean!!! :) Always pleasure to re-discover these builds ;)

Cheerio
Lukas

Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on January 06, 2016, 07:16:45 AM
This is looking absolutely incredible Lance, the rigging is excellent.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 06, 2016, 08:41:12 AM
Many thanks George, Lukas, and Des. I actually finished it a few minutes ago however have a bit more to do on the Aviattic Engine (the spare to be displayed at the side) before I call it "complete". I'll try for some photos if the light is good tomorrow.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on January 06, 2016, 09:31:25 AM
Lovely, lovely work Lance - an excellent result considering the alignment issues. I certainly feel for you over having to break the wing off  :o

Cant wait now to see the final overall pics  ;)

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 06, 2016, 09:42:21 AM
Thank you Tug. Yes, it's a scary moment or ten when, that late in the build you have to start "un-Building"! Other then a little cleaning up of the joints I got away fairly clean, at least no broken struts etc. A Wingnut Wings fall together Kit this one is not! :o On the other hand it reinforces my opinion and hope that there is a place for more releases from Roden, they tend to keep you on your toes and with a little extra effort build up very nicely.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 06, 2016, 09:54:23 AM
   Here's a few Work Bench quick shots of the finished Build pending some work on the spare engine and posed photos.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4387.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4387.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4389.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4389.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4382.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4382.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4381.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4381.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/Models%20Two/IMG_4390.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/Models%20Two/IMG_4390.jpg.html)

Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on January 06, 2016, 10:05:12 AM
Holy Moly, Lance...that's a real piece of work!  Exceptional finish...

Cheers,

Dan
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: GAJouette on January 06, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
 Lance,
OUTSTANDING my old friend. She's absolutely incredible project from the beginning  to now. Congratulations you've bested yourself with this awesome project. A fitting tribute to my Master Level talent,skill and craftsmanship. Well Done Lance!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 06, 2016, 12:10:31 PM
Dan, Greg,
    Thanks for your kind comments; this one worried me as, again, I thought I may have given her too "worn" a finish. Given the never ending problems the engines presented I reasoned a lot of oil and wear and tear would be a given, and thus her beat up and dirty finish. I really appreciate you looking in and offering your comments.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: gedmundson on January 06, 2016, 12:48:31 PM
Wow. Amazing work, Lance. I'm looking forward to seeing your "completed" pics and hopefully looking at this one in the flesh later this year at the model show.

Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: jknaus on January 06, 2016, 12:59:01 PM
Outstanding work Lance. Just beautiful. I'll see this in Edmonton this summer?
James
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: uncletony on January 06, 2016, 01:34:09 PM
Excellent!
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 06, 2016, 01:52:31 PM
Gary, Bo, and James,
    Thanks again for taking the time to comment and for your endorsements. I`m not sure I`ll be taking this one to the Edmonton Regionals this year, I struggled with this Build at times and it shows on close examination. :-\ I guess I`ve got 5 months to think about it!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Des on January 06, 2016, 02:03:50 PM
Exceptional is the first word to come to mind Lance, watching this build from start to finish has been a real delight and a learning experience as well, I'm looking forward to seeing the 'completed model' photos.

Des.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on January 06, 2016, 02:15:06 PM
very nice work lance old boy.
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: moustique on January 06, 2016, 05:00:52 PM
your plane is absolutly fantastic
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: rhwinter on January 06, 2016, 05:45:16 PM
Wonderful!!
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Ssasho0 on January 06, 2016, 06:01:23 PM
Lance, this will be one of the best SSDIII that can be seen on the internet :) Just wonderfull work!

I especially like the handcarved propeller, now this is something hard to pull!

best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Ernie on January 06, 2016, 06:51:23 PM
Brilliant work, Lance!  The hand carved prop is an absolute
gem.  You really have a model to be proud of thanks to your
talents and eye for detail.  Well done, my friend!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: bobs_buckles on January 06, 2016, 07:00:25 PM
She's a keeper, Lance  ;)
Beautiful work - well done!

vB
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Suffolk Lad on January 06, 2016, 07:30:10 PM
Superb result Lance - it really looks the part and that prop is just the icing  :)

I've been distracted from the Camel (good reason) but now you have me just itching to get back to it

Well done indeed

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: RAGIII on January 06, 2016, 07:30:59 PM
Lance,
As always your build has been informative and Inspiring! Lovely work all around as I said in my last post! Beautiful results!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 07, 2016, 12:23:24 AM
Thank you all. your comments are much appreciated! I must be getting better at "selective" photography to get such complimentary feedback. The next  challenge is to come up with a simple setting for the spare Siemens Halske Engine, the beautiful Aviattic version that I'd like to incorporate into the display base setting. More to follow on that.........
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: radio on January 07, 2016, 12:50:41 AM
Very fantastic build, Lance.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 07, 2016, 01:21:42 AM
Thank you so much Martin!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: IFF1418 on January 07, 2016, 01:53:57 AM
Lance, this has been a magic build. You did a fantastic job! Once again I admire your rigging work! Fabulous!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: xmald on January 07, 2016, 02:19:35 AM
Simply splendid Lance I really like the staining and the weathering all around!
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 10, 2016, 03:55:28 AM
Thanks for your comments Patrick and Filip, very much appreciated! :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: Oeli on January 10, 2016, 04:30:19 AM
Hi,

the rigging is so great!  :D
And the final result awesome.

Chapeau!  :D


Regards

Jörg
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 10, 2016, 06:50:35 AM
Thank you Jorg, much appreciate your comments. :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: WarrenD on January 10, 2016, 07:09:48 AM
Really beautiful.

Warren
Title: Re: Roden 1:32 Siemens Schuckert D.III
Post by: lcarroll on January 10, 2016, 07:11:01 AM
Thank you for the compliment, Warren!
Cheers,
Lance