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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: drdave on October 13, 2015, 03:34:38 AM
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Yes that's right....
http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=58671&hl=
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I am guessing that well cost a pretty penny. I am in the meantime thinking of breaking down and getting the AEG before they make the shipping changes. Also it does not look like the Canadian peso will be getting much higher anytime soon. :'(
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I was thinking of scratch building the Caproni CA.3 but now I will wait and see what the HpH kit looks like, I hope it is better detailed than their Macchi M.5. I can imagine that the price will be pretty high but to have a Caproni CA.3 in 1:32 scale will be excellent, it will be huge.
Des.
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The tiny little Macchi was very expensive, I shudder to think how much a HPH 1/32 Caproni will cost.
Wingnut Wings Felixstowe - undoubtedly a much higher volume seller & in injected plastic - comes in at in excess of £200, so I think a three engined biplane in resin by HPH will cost at least double that.
I'll give it a wide berth - the quality of the Macchi failed to impress me, and the sheer hard work in getting their 1/32 Walrus together dissuaded me further.
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Wow - that is one a/c I would really like, but probably will be $600 USD...
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For those who are concerned about the size of a 1:32 scale Caproni CA.3 here are the stats,
Wingspan 71.875cm
Length 34.3cm
Not overly huge but big all the same, as a comparison here are the wingspans of three of Wingnuts kits;
Gotha 73cm
AEG 57cm
Felix 91cm
Des.
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And here are the dimensions for HPH's Macchi:
Wingspan : 37cm
Length : 25cm
So the Ca 3 will be almost twice as wide and nearly half as long again, with three times the number of engines &, crucially, almost three and a half times the surface area of the wings, three times as many tail fins, three times as many wheels, four times as many seats, almost a ton more bombs.
Can't see HPH selling many of these?
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A Caproni Ca3 in any scale will be welcome indeed.
Cheers,
Bud
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I wouldn't be surprised to see it around the 500 Euro mark...
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With the speculations of a very high price I think I will stick with my original scratch build plan ???
Des.
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didnt ron kootjie build a ca-3 in 1/32 scratched?
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Yes he did Scott, here is the build http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=533.0
Des.
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It's 100% made from resin.
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I would buy a Caproni in 1/48th scale.
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I would buy a Caproni in 1/48th scale.
So would I.
Cheers,
bud
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While I would love to do a Caproni in 1/32, I bear two things in mind:
1. The well documented issues the Macchi builds had with accuracy.
2. I have heard far too many stories of resin wings sagging, even in 1/72 scale. I can only imagine how many times that problem might be magnified with the surface area of something this large.
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You bring up a very good point Michael. I have built only four resin kits, the Battle Axe Fokker E.III, Omega Mosca MB.bis, the Alley Cat Bristol MI.c and the HpH Macchi M.5 with all kits being 1:32 scale. I have already noticed wing sag with the Mosca and the Bristol, only slight but noticeable, the Macchi has only just recently been completed so there has not been enough time for the wings to sag. A model in resin of the Caproni CA.3 in 1:32 scale would need some type of wing reinforcing, metal rods cast inside the entire length of the wings would offer good support. The metal would need to be of spring steel so it always retains its original shape, I don't know anything about casting resin but going by the Macchi M.5 kit it has metal rods cast inside the struts which makes them quite a strong item.
I would love to see a kit of the Caproni CA.3 but HpH would have to make some huge improvements before I would consider buying a kit, they did a fair job with the Macchi M.5 but there were areas that could have been done a lot better. Like the Macchi, the Caproni has fully exposed engines so they would need to be well detailed, this is one area where the Macchi was sadly lacking.
If, and that is a big if, HpH produce a dimensionally correct kit with acceptable detail, a PE set and a good selection of decals, they will have a real winner, but I fear the price will be the killer for a kit of this magnitude.
Des.
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Hello guys,
I believe that HpH guys are using different technology for their big kits (for big parts - fuselage, wings) - believe that it is glassfibre...
Lukas
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Wings will be fibreglass, just like the big, glorious Catalina they did.
The Cat has a parts count in excess of a thousand & costs €600. As I type this, I realise that Sterling is pretty strong at the moment, so much so that the cost of a Cat is now £430.
Still an awful lot of money - nay, a small fortune - for a kit but this leads me to two conclusions:
Firstly, it is on the far verge of being affordable for me now. It offers a good 6-12 months of build time, so in terms of value it's not too bad.
Secondly, the Caproni is significantly smaller - 1,000 square feet of wing area, against 1,400 for the Catalina - whilst the interior is nowhere near as complicated as the Cat. Google the pics, it's utterly amazing, especially considering it's all buttoned up and hardly visible once finished. This leads me to the hope that the cost, whilst high, will not be as bad as I originally feared. Maybe around the €300 mark, around £215, which compares most favourably with WNW's big Felixstowe.
I'm keeping a close eye on this!
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If you have a look at the HPH website you will see they are advertising their 1:48 scale XB-Valkyrie for €475, that's a lot of money ($729AUD)
Des.