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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Des on July 20, 2012, 07:34:57 AM

Title: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Des on July 20, 2012, 07:34:57 AM: I was sent an email with the following photo from Steven, he has asked me to ask the members if they would like him to write an article on how to build 1:32 scale spoked wheels, he will do a tutorial with a description and photos. I know I will certainly be interested, spoked wheels add a touch of "class" to a WW1 model.

Des.

I have removed the image due to copyright restrictions.
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: uncletony on July 20, 2012, 07:55:06 AM: Yes please!
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: coyotemagic on July 20, 2012, 08:28:54 AM: Although not my scale, I would love to see that tutorial.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Jamo on July 20, 2012, 08:46:59 AM: Yes I am interested, good idea
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Dave W on July 20, 2012, 09:28:01 AM: Yes please! Spoked wheels give WW1 models a certain elegance so I would love to see how they can be done. The more photos the better.

Tutorials like this and for other techniques would be very welcome

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Whiteknuckles on July 20, 2012, 09:29:04 AM: Another 'Yes please' from me.

Andrew
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Chris Johnson on July 20, 2012, 09:42:14 AM: I'd like to read that tutorial also to see if creating spoked wheels could fall within my skillset.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Edo on July 20, 2012, 03:12:35 PM: Absolutely yes! Please, do!
I always wanted to give it a try, but was too scared to actually do, now a tutorial coud be exactly what it takes!
Ciao
Edo
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 20, 2012, 03:28:33 PM: Please!

;)
BVB
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: GAJouette on July 21, 2012, 01:32:35 AM: Excellent idea,please do.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Jose Chaica on July 21, 2012, 02:17:09 AM: Yes, please!!! :)
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: fcmdecal on July 21, 2012, 02:49:30 AM: Yes, this is very important! I believe that the techniques in 1/72 and 1/48 using PEs would not work well for 1/32. 8)
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: chuckd on July 21, 2012, 03:02:51 AM: Yes, by all means! Bring it on...

Not that I could do it, but it would be great seeing the technique.

Chuck
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: rhwinter on July 21, 2012, 05:04:16 AM: Save one for me too, please!
Richard
:D
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Umlaufmotor on July 21, 2012, 06:16:44 AM: Absolutely yes!

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Trackpad on July 21, 2012, 03:20:13 PM: Love to see it! ;D
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Airboss 55 on July 22, 2012, 01:58:48 AM: You've got my attention! Will be waiting and watching.
Rick
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Checkers67 on July 22, 2012, 08:12:41 AM: Yes! Please! Also, is that the WnW Pflaz? Beautiful build.
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: lcarroll on July 23, 2012, 11:40:46 AM: Albeit late, beautiful Pfalz, really impressive wheels.........so YES, me too!
Cheers,
Lance :)
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Des on July 23, 2012, 04:33:32 PM: Thanks guys for your overwhelming support for a spoked wheel tutorial. I have been in contact with Steven and he is willing to do the article for us, it may take a few weeks but he will get it to us eventually.

Des.
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Tony Haycock on July 23, 2012, 05:23:02 PM: Looking forward to seeing this. Not quite sure why, I have been procrastinating for long enough about respoking my 1/1 scale WW1 car wire wheels, so why I should want to make small aeroplane ones as well I am not quite sure... must be mad.
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Pete Nottingham on July 23, 2012, 05:42:50 PM: Yes Please, this seems to be a good idea.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Steven Robson on July 28, 2012, 03:37:01 PM: Hi Folks, sorry it's taken so long but I'm now in the forum. I'm very grateful for all the interest in the SPOKED WHEELS TUTORIAL. I have now started to prepare the tutorial. Should be ready for publication in 3 x weeks. I will release to Des some photos asap, when they come back from the photographer, maybe by Wed next week. I've spent 4 x years searching for a SW solution, I'm happy to share what I think is a good hybrid solution. If you like the first tutorial, I'll also work-up the second SW design. SW are not hard to make, it's all technique driven but time consuming. I think my WW1 aeroplanes are worth the time and SW generate a great response.
Regards
Steven Robson

p.s. included this cropped photo
p.p.s can confirm CD of photos, my models, lots of spoked wheels images posted by photographer today and comming to the forum.
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Jim52 on July 28, 2012, 08:26:24 PM: Looking forward to your presentation! However, could
you explain to this OF (Old Fart) what you mean by SW? :)

Jim
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Post by: Jose Chaica on July 28, 2012, 08:44:23 PM: That SW picture is a great appetizer... :)
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: lcarroll on July 28, 2012, 11:34:43 PM: Photo looks great; really looking forward to the "How To" on this! 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Jim52 on July 29, 2012, 12:49:39 AM: Duuuuuuh!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Jim
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Des on July 31, 2012, 07:09:03 AM: Here is another photo of the spoked wheels sent to me by Steven, the wheels certaily look great and I look forward to seeing the tutorial and having a go at making them.

Des.
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: mike in calif on July 31, 2012, 02:23:16 PM: A bit late, but yes, I'd really like to see this done. What a beauty of an Albie..
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Steven Robson on July 31, 2012, 08:57:06 PM: Thank you mike in calif. I'll get a great buzz when you start posting your own planes with spoked wheels.
Steven
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: KONG on August 03, 2012, 08:15:41 AM: Go for it! Really would be a great asset.
Look forward to reading it.

Dave
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Steven Robson on August 03, 2012, 01:48:01 PM: Thanks Dave

Please find attached another photo of the Spoked Wheels. Sorry about the quality of the image, the wheel is a bit clumsy (this is an early version) but it gives the general idea.

Thank you for your interest.

Regards
Steven Robson
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Steven Robson on August 19, 2012, 10:06:06 PM: The Spoked Wheels Tutorial is now finished and available.

Cheers
Steven
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: fcmdecal on August 20, 2012, 02:11:56 AM: I can not find it... :-\
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Des on August 20, 2012, 09:47:19 AM: The spoked wheel tutorial is in the Hints and Tips section, it is pinned so is at the top of the list.

Des.
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: fcmdecal on August 30, 2012, 05:47:52 AM: Hi Des, I had patiently waiting for an update of the site, but until today, the top of the Hits and Tips is "How to drill 0.4mm and 0.5mm brass tubing to a larger bore size, not the Spoked Wheels. :-\

Sorry if I'm being annoying...
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Jose Chaica on August 30, 2012, 06:50:28 AM: Quote from: fcmdecal on August 30, 2012, 05:47:52 AM
Hi Des, I had patiently waiting for an update of the site, but until today, the top of the Hits and Tips is "How to drill 0.4mm and 0.5mm brass tubing to a larger bore size, not the Spoked Wheels. :-\

Sorry if I'm being annoying...

The tutorial is posted here (http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=730.0), on this forum, and not on the website.
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Des on August 30, 2012, 07:11:40 AM: Hi Filipe,

Here is the link to the tutorial.

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=730.0
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: fcmdecal on August 30, 2012, 11:16:05 AM: Thanks guys! ;)
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Bughunter on August 28, 2021, 07:14:12 PM: This is a old, but interesting topic.
Does anybody know, where the tutorial is located now? I have no access to Des link :(

Thanks,
Frank
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Dave W on August 28, 2021, 07:42:56 PM: Hi Frank

Thats an interesting question you ask. The tutorial appears to have vanished. The link that Des provided goes nowhere and even I can't access it, with my Forum owner's wizard hat on.

I will make inquiries and see where it may have vanished to.

Steven Robson who produced the wheels has not been active on the Forum since September last year.

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Bughunter on August 28, 2021, 09:43:21 PM: Thank you David!
May be he made a business from it so do not want to share his know how anymore.
I think there are more posts about this topic in the construction threads, let's see.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Dave W on August 28, 2021, 10:21:54 PM: Hi Frank

I contacted Steven who is looking for his copy of the tutorial to re-upload. If he can't find his I have Des' old hard drive archive files here and have started searching for the tutorial.

Steven says he's happy for us to upload it again if I find it ( he owns the copyright to the article) so bear with me as I trawl through the year 2012 and the gems in the vault. It was quite a year.

Stay tuned

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Bughunter on August 28, 2021, 10:47:38 PM: Thank you very much Dave! But please don't stress yourself!
I wondered if something like that that is possible in 1/48, but I have also PE spokes from Eduard and Part as fallback.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: RLWP on August 29, 2021, 03:36:25 AM: Gaspatch make some lovely 3D printed wire wheels

Richard
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Bughunter on August 29, 2021, 03:55:36 AM: Richard, I have them in my stash (lovely!), but that are Palmer Brit ones and too big for a Austro-Hungarian project idea.
I think I will use PE, even the original wheels do not have many spokes (less then the Palmer with three rows).

Thanks!
Frank
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: kensar on August 29, 2021, 11:02:44 PM: I'd like to see the tutorial. There is a review on Hyperscale from 2013 by James Fahey on Steve's wheels. It states the rims are cast from silver, so this would be difficult to recreate without the proper equipment. I am curious how the spokes are attached to the hubs. Looks realistic. Also looks like the spoke pattern is three cross and two cross - also realistic.
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Dave W on August 30, 2021, 12:39:45 PM: The good news is that we have found a copy of Steven Robson's spoked wheel tutorial from 2012. It was stored in the hard drive files of Des Delatorre's which I inherited after his passing.

I have been in contact with Steven who has given his permission to upload the article again ( he owns the copyright) so stay tuned for the return of the spoked wheel tutorial!

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Bughunter on August 31, 2021, 01:36:08 AM: A small question by me and a big effort for the administrator ::)
Thank you for this good news, Dave!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Europapete on August 31, 2021, 10:07:27 AM: Awesome news, thanks Dave
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Dave W on August 31, 2021, 02:18:21 PM: Steven Robson's 2012 spoked wheel tutorial is back online and can be found in the Hints & Tips board where it's set as a sticky at the top of the page.

The link is:

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12476.0

Our thanks to Steven for his permission to upload the retrieved file from Des' archives.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Rookie on August 31, 2021, 04:13:04 PM: Wow, this is great stuff Dave.

Thank you and Stephen for making this available again for us.

Willem
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on August 31, 2021, 05:54:53 PM: Thanks Dave and Stephen for making this tutorial available again.

Stephen mentions in the tutorial a follow up second tutorial.
Was this ever made and available?

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Dave W on August 31, 2021, 07:25:52 PM: Hi Mike

Not sure about a second tutorial, the one I uploaded again is the only one found so far.

It was actually in 30 or so parts which I stitched together for what you see on the Forum now.

If I find a second tutorial I will upload that too.

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Bughunter on September 01, 2021, 02:54:14 AM: Thank you Dave, that is very interesting!

In meantime I found another one by Kent (I was sure I had seen something not too long ago):
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10175.msg199525#msg199525

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Rookie on September 01, 2021, 04:46:01 AM: This is getting better and better...

What a great forum!

Willem
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 01, 2021, 05:13:42 AM: Hi Dave,
The next time you come across Steven, would you please send him my best regards.
I don't miss facebook, but I do miss the banter with good blokes like Steven and a few other fine gentlemen.

Cheers,
Bob ;)
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: s.e.charles on September 02, 2021, 06:32:06 PM: Quote from: Rookie on September 01, 2021, 04:46:01 AM
This is getting better and better...

What a great forum!

Willem

ditto!!!
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Bughunter on September 04, 2021, 04:38:51 AM: Due to all the great information here I was able to do my first own spoked wheels, see here:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12483

Thanks!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: ColonelKrypton on September 04, 2021, 04:55:51 AM: There are a number of good tutorials on making wire spoked wheels on the papermodels.com web site.

http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/416736-post10.html

I have looked elsewhere on the web for these articles to no avail and you have to be a member ( I am ) at papermodels.com to download them.

The articles by Spoked wheels by Eric Goedkoop and Spoked wheels by Alan G. are the better two of the four but the other two are helpful as well.

I have the pdf's if anyone is interested.

cheers, Graham
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: the great waldo on September 04, 2021, 05:14:09 PM: Hi Graham
I would be interested in the pdf`s I joined the papermodelers forum but couldn't find or download the files.
Cheers
Andrew
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: ColonelKrypton on September 05, 2021, 03:06:25 AM: Good afternoon Andrew,

I have placed all four pdf files in a dropbox folder that you should be able to access:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9ymryr19ewq0anv/AADyLl-5APWJZ2m_VNmR-GSga?dl=0

let me know if you can not access and I will email them

cheers, Graham
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: the great waldo on September 05, 2021, 08:54:51 AM: Thanks Graham

The pdf's landed well at my end.

Cheers
Andrew
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Rookie on September 05, 2021, 04:43:45 PM: Quote from: the great waldo on September 05, 2021, 08:54:51 AM
Thanks Graham

The pdf's landed well at my end.

Cheers
Andrew

At my end too Graham. Great tutorials, thanks!

Willem
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Panzer Chicken on September 07, 2021, 08:37:17 PM: I suppose Steven is Steven Robson? In that case I can HIGHLY recommend anything this gentleman has to offer, his wheels (I have a set of Dr.1 wheels) are simply stunning!
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels - revisited
Post by: ColonelKrypton on November 28, 2021, 04:36:11 AM: Good day,

I stumbled across another variation of making spoked wheels for models. Same basic principle as they all are however this person made a very nice jig to assist in his work:

https://www.modellversium.de/tipps/6-detaillieren/8030-.html (https://www.modellversium.de/tipps/6-detaillieren/8030-.html)

cheers, Graham
Title: Re: 1:32 spoked wheels
Post by: Bughunter on November 28, 2021, 10:44:34 PM: In the bigger scales there are also 3D printed tools possible.

Here is a manufacturer (nice 3D on the homepage) ...
https://unobtainium.digital/

... with very nice tooling in 1/12 for a Alfa Romeo car:
https://unobtainium.digital/alfa-wheels.html

(https://unobtainium.digital/assets/img/alfa/jig1.jpg)

The result is fantastic!
(https://unobtainium.digital/assets/img/alfa/jig4.jpg)

Cheers,
Frank