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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: skeeterbuck on September 10, 2015, 10:52:03 AM
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I recently started this kit after about a year long hiatis. ::) I've always liked the SSW and with Eduard's new release drew me back to the workbench. I'm a rather slow builder but here's some pics of what I finished so far. The engine is the Eduard "Brassin" resin replacement. I replaced the flat pe pushrods with .010 brass wire rod. The seatbelts are the Eduard Super Fabric set. Sorry for the not so great pics but I only have an iPhone for now to take pics. :-[
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looks like you got quite a bit accomplished and its looking very nice so far.
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I do like how your painting of the engine turned out and that wood finish ...well done ! I also note that you sanded off the stitching on the rib tapes 8)
Terri
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You have done a superb job with the wood, it is a beautiful colour, and the engine looks really good.
Des.
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Skeeterbuck,
You're off to an excellent start my friend. I'm quite impressed by how well her engine came out. Keep up the excellent progress.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Skeeterbuck,
You're off to an excellent start my friend. I'm quite impressed by how well her engine came out. Keep up the excellent progress.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Agreed! That engine is superb!!
George
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Outstanding work on the interior, Chuck, and that engine is truly superb! Glad to see this one started and looking forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Bud
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What a fine start, Chuck. It's already shaping up really well.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Skeeterbuck, I totally agree with the positive comments above, I love the wooden tone you achieved, will follow you with high interest also because I have purchased the same kit and the resin enhancements (engine and MGs).
Antonio
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Thanks to all for the positive comments.
For those interested my techniques for the engine and wood finishes.
Engine: painted overall Gunze silver and allowed to dry. Then a black enamel wash for the cylinders and the intake pipes painted black and allowed to dry. Then overall covering with raw umber artist oil to simulate the burnt castor oil. Most of this is removed with a clean dry brush to remove the excess and just basically tint the silver paint and remain in the deep recesses. After allowing several days for the oil paint to dry a coat of 50/50 Tamiya clear orange and thinner was sprayed over the entire engine. A final light dry brushing of silver over the details completed the effect.
Wood: painted overall using Gunze "sail" color and when dry was tinted with yellow ocher, burnt sienna & raw umber artist oils. I don't strive to impart a "grain" into the finish but am looking for an overall pleasing and hopefully accurate color. I then use a lightly dampened brush to remove excess color from the edges of the formers etc. to give additional depth to the finish. After allowing to dry for several days I lightly spray the area with Tamiya clear yellow.
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Very well done so far.
One tip: Aviattic has new Lozenge for the D III! I have one very great. ;D
Cheers
Martin
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I do like how your painting of the engine turned out and that wood finish ...well done ! I also note that you sanded off the stitching on the rib tapes 8)
Terri
Yea Terri, It's hard to understand Eduards thinking to do all that extra detailing that just has to be removed to be accurate. You would think in this day and age that companies would know how to properly portray linen covered wings. I wish they would have put that extra detailing into the engine which is poorly done IMHO. To Eduards credit they did get much of the kit correct and it's miles ahead of the initial offering from the 90's. And they did make the resin replacement engine with is very nice indeed.
Chuck
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Very well done so far.
One tip: Aviattic has new Lozenge for the D III! I have one very great. ;D
Cheers
Martin
Thanks for the heads up Martin. I've already placed my order with Richard and with the exception of the lower wing, all flying surfaces are painted and awaiting their arrival.
Chuck
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Beautifully made Chuck!!!
Looking forward for next steps :)
Lukas
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Outstanding start! Your interior looks terrific as does the engine! I am looking forward to the next update!
RAGIII
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I finally got around to getting some additional progress pics. I tried pre shading the fuselage, but in the end it is hardly noticeable. :-\ Oh well it was worth a shot anyway. The basic fuselage color is Tamiya Nato black which appears to be a really dark greenish gray. I then did the metal panel area on the front in Tamiya semi gloss black so it would have a slightly different color and also a different sheen, Just trying to break up the rather drab overall black look. also have the base gloss white on the wings and tail surfaces in prep of the lozenge decals.
Also have the prop painted whit Humbrol satin oak & satin brown then finished off with several coats of Tamiya clear orange. Still need to add the Wotan prop decals.
Chuck
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The subtle shade difference and sheen looks great! Not boring at all. Your prop blades are awesome!
RAGIII
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The basic fuselage color is Tamiya Nato black which appears to be a really dark greenish gray.
indeed it is...
Nice work Chuck.
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Very nicely done Chuck, the fuselage colour looks excellent.
Des.
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Very beautiful done, Chuck.
Cheers
Martin
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Awsome build ,prop looks well proper! ;D Just out of interest,was the SSW better than the DV11???
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Awsome build ,prop looks well proper! ;D Just out of interest,was the SSW better than the DV11???
I would say overall, no. The SSW had a superior climb rate and overall top speed which most fighter pilots always seem to request. (the SSW D-IV was developed to increase the top speed further) The SSW was much harder to control and required constant attention whereas the D-VII was much easier to fly and was noted on making good pilots out of average fliers.
The SSW main problem was the Siemens Halske SH-III engine which had many "teething problems" that were just getting ironed out by wars end.
Of course this is what I've read as I have no first hand experience flying and airplane. ;)
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Thanks guys for all the positive comments. :)
Hopefully I have some nice Aviattic Lozenge decals applied for my next update and pics. ;)
Chuck
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Brilliant work so far, Chuck! I love the NATO black and your prop is superb.
Cheers,
Bud
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Looking great Chuck!
It may be the photography but you've left a lot of Eduards rib detail behind? Our sheets have two sets so perhaps use a section of the set you don't want to use to test that the rib spacing works OK over the humps of the rib positions. Alternatively reduce the rib detail to just a suggestion of a rib.
Best wishes, Richard
I wanted to do some pre-shading before responding Richard. I had already checked the rib tape spacing on your decals against the wing. I hope you can see in my poor pics that are really close so I think it will look fine. I didn't want to over do the shading, more of just slightly highlighting the ribs/tapes. IMHO too much shading just adds to the "starving cow" look. ;)
Also a somewhat better pic of the finished prop with the Wotan decals applied.
Any criticism/comments cheerfully welcomed. :) Thanks!
Chuck
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Beautiful work with the decals Chuck and the propeller looks superb.
Des.
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Thanks Des!
Another mini update. I started to apply the Aviattic Lozenge and I did the tail stabilizer first and everything went well. I had my confidence up and decided to do the upper wing in one piece. Well I had a slight problem. When you align the rib tapes with the one end to be exactly over the rib by the time you get to the other end of the wing it's off by about 1 mm. Well I thought that it would be OK. I later had second thoughts and unfortunately couldn't get the decal to release so I ended up ruining the decal. (>:( at myself for not thinking the process through more)
I re-grouped and am going to try and apply the decal in 3 parts and shown in the pic. A center section and right and left sides. I'm hoping to solve the problem by applying the center section first and letting that dry. Then cutting slightly off each of the other sections ending up with all the rib tapes over whats left of the molded on ribs. I thinking that by slightly cutting the lozenge where it butts up to the rib tape that it will not be detectible. On a more positive note the bottom wing came out nice and aligned perfectly.
Chuck
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Very great work, Chuck.
Cheers
Martin
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Your work with the Lozenge is awesome!
RAGIII
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Your work with the Lozenge is awesome!
RAGIII
I agree with Rick
Des.
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That's what I was trying to explain about the rib "humps" that you left on the wing - it would for- shorten the decal...that's why it's written on the decal sheet - "remove rib stitch detail".
Replacement on its way!
Richard
I understood what you were saying Richard, but I think I must have somehow stretched the decals because instead of them being too short they were a little too long. That's why when I try the lower lozenge on the upper wing I'm splitting it into three pieces so I'll easily be able to trim a minute amount off if necessary.
Thanks again Richard for all your help and thanks Rick, Martin & Des for your continued encouragement. :)
Chuck
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looking great so far
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Here's several pics showing some more progress . Struts in place and tail's rudder and stabilizer attached. On the front engine, engine's support cage and cowl in place and Gaspatch's excellent twin Spandaus mounted. As previous stated, I screwed up the top lozenge decal for the upper wing and Richard of Aviattic is kindly sending a replacement one across the pond to me. As soon as that arrrives I'll be able to get the top wing mounted. Also should soon have the wheels painted and mounted. After some final detail and touchup painting it will be time for some rigging. You'll notice that I used the golden yellow swastikas from Pheon kindly given to me by our one and only "coyotemagic". (Thanks again Bud!) I wasn't able to fine any concrete evidence what color they actually were. I just thought that the yellow looked better than the white. ::)
Chuck
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The yellow on the black looks brilliant, a perfect choice.
Des.
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I love this color scheme, Chuck, and you are doing a great job with it! Very nice!
George
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Absolutely stunning work on the markings ! I think the yellow looks right on target!
RAGIII
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A very nice model and a testimonial of how far Eduard has gone with their models.
The quality of this kit is Impressive even in the box.
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A very nice model and a testimonial of how far Eduard has gone with their models.
The quality of this kit is Impressive even in the box.
I agree that this kit is far superior to their original 90's version. However even this kit is not without some minor fit issues here and there. One area that comes to mind is the engine support framework. I had to trim the "legs" some to be able to get the cowling flush against the fuselage.
Chuck
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Chuck,
That's one strikingly beautiful SSW my old friend. Eagerly awaiting the next update. Keep up the outstanding progress.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Hello there Chuck!!!
I really like your progress, looking really sharp!!!! ;)
According to kit itself It certainly looks very nice in the box but after speaking to Hellboy after his adventure It isn't as accurate as It seems in the box. Having said that doesn't mean It can't make for nice looking model ;)
Cheerio
Lukas
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Looking very sharp so far Chuck 8) I like how the black turned out and the yellow really adds to it .
Terri
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Thanks all for the kind words and encouragement. :)
Chuck
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Hi / great progress!
Seems there may be a fit issue with the size of cutouts in the wheel discs. Can you let me know how you get on?
I am considering altering artwork and reprinting if this proves to be troublesome...
Thanks, Richard
Hi Richard, Here's some pics showing front then back:
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Yep / thought so...looks like I need to correct the artwork and get replacements out to customers...strut shapes could do with having more wraparound too..
Regards, Richard
I think that the front need just a slight "v" shaped cutout because of the conical shape but because the back is flat so maybe no cutout at all. As to the struts, if you look at my earlier post (Oct 3rd) in the pic showing the front view you can see the white undercoat showing on the interplant strut edges. I didn't use the lozenge for the rudder so I just cut it into small stripes and used it to fill these areas. It was a little tedious, but doable.
Chuck
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A little minor update:
While waiting for the replacement upper lozenge to arrive, I decided to push on and finish the wheels. I painted them Gunze Off White and the tire is Tamiya Neutral Gray. I then made a mixture of Tamiya Clear Smoke and Clear Orange and ended up with a clear brown. I them airbrushed the mainly on the tire's sides and getting some on the white areas to give the impression of some dirt staining on the white. ::) Here's 2 pics to show the effect. I think that it turned out OK. A pin wash of Humbrol red brown on the center stitching and valve cover flap. I still need to paint the axle end black to complete the wheels.
Chuck
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Sweet !
Terri
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Very nice effect!
RAGIII
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Very nicely done with an excellent result.
Des.
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Been busy the last 2 days. I finished re-decalling the top wing, installed the ailerons making sure they match the lower wings ones. Installed the bell cranks for the upper wing ailerons and they finally installed the upper wing. With the Aviattic cookie cutter decals it really helps to speed up applying the lozenge decals. With the help of my "Better Half" was able to take some pics "revving the engine". Check it out! ;)
Tomorrow hopefully on to the rigging.
Chuck
P.S. Just ignore that giant hand in the pics. I totally out of scale! :D
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Absolutely stunning, Chuck! You've made me rethink the scheme I plan on doing on mine. Yours looks so good, now I want to do one of the other Kest 5 machines.
Cheers,
Bud
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Beautiful work! I won't be buying the Eduard kit but seeing yours is making me rethink my decision not to get the Roden 1/32nd one :-\
RAGIII
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Thanks Bud and Rick!
Yea I know that most modelers do Udet's airplane. I think that's because it's a famous ace and a colorful scheme. A deadly combination in the modeling world. LOL! I usually like to do something a little different and with the SSW there's not an overwelming choice of aircraft to pick from to begin with. :) The Kest 5 and also the Kest 4b offer some nice alternatives. ;)
Chuck
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Great update, Chuck.
Cheers
Martin
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Excellent work Chuck, good to see the engine all fired up and running smoothly.
Des.
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Thanks Martin and Des!
I realized today while starting the rigging that I forgot to install the clear windscreen. :( Dang'it!!! Now I have to figure out how to get that in between the top wing and the fuselage. ??? I think that I'll use some white glue to stick it in place. That way it will be easier to clean up any excess glue with a damp brush. Oh well...$h1t happens! :o
Chuck
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Chuck,
Outstanding update my friend. Wouldn't worry too much about the windscreen just call it light Archie damage. Keep up the excellence.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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It`s a great looking SSW mate!