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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Monty on August 26, 2015, 02:48:01 AM
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I decided on this lovely production from the Lord of the Wings as a first blog - mainly because it's quite simple and I've made some progress with it, I took some photies so I can do a catch up! I haven't posted these anywhere else and I've decided on the colour scheme; This one:
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I won't post photies of the kit contents, this is easily available on the WNW web site: I have never come across another company that makes their research available in such an open and well thought out way.
Regards,
Marc
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As I don't always follow instructions, (and WNW's are great) I started with the cowling as I wanted to thin the edges and generally clean it up... but I didn't bother with the places that won't be seen...
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I also started playing around with the seatbelts, making sure they would fit the seat and bending them around... Then I sprayed the cowling silver - just an undercoat.
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More to come soon...
Marc
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Nice beginning Marc.
Cheers
Martin
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Great start. I am looking forward to more!
RAGIII
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Great! Nice to see another Pup! :)
George
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I will follow with interest....
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It's always great to see another Pup under construction, I will be following along closely.
Des.
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Nice choice of subject. Will you show her in the "blown over-position"? 8)
Stefan
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Thank You to everyone who looked in and especially for all the great comments: Thank You to Martin, RAGIII, George, ermeio, Des and Stefan, I will try to get this one completed ... and yes, Stefan, the "blown over" position is tempting... maybe even the 'righting procedure" where a line was attached to the tail-skid, fed over the belly and under carriage and the aircraft was righted by pulling it over the propeller and onto the wheels again! I'll give that some thought... I do have to apologise for a bit of random posting: The following photograph is actually the first one: I removed lots of components from the sprues, carefully checking to see the part numbers were right, labeling them in pencil if there were any that looked too similar, then giving them a gentle wash to remove the mould release agent... This can be fun, and dry fitting showed just how accurate the mouldings are...
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Then I proceeded to add some PE plates to the wings (For stepping on) and starting to spay the interior... just silver for the metals and buff for the interior linen..
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Then I separated out the parts that would be basically metal and gave them a quick coat of silver... I use Tamiya acrylics a lot, thinned 50 50 with their own acrylic thinners, quick, cheap and cheerful!
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At the same time I undercoated all the wooden parts like the cockpit frames (here just dry fitted) the prop dashboard struts and floorboards in Dark yellow, so I could work on the wooden effect...
OK, now to search photobucket for more images!
Happy Modelling!
Marc
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Marc,
Looks to be an excellent start my friend.I'm looking forward to following your thread.I have the same kit still waiting for a future project myself so i'm open to any tips or hint you come across. Outstanding choice of marking too.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Great choice on markings!!!! And great start!!!! ;)
Cheerio
Lukas
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Thank you for sharing your build details - a great start!
Looking forward to following this Marc.
Suzanne
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Great to see you are off the starting line Marc, looking forward to seeing further progress.
Des.
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Like the others have said it is good to see you are off to running start!
RAGIII
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Hi Everyone! I found some more photies so time for an update...
Hi Gregory, Thank you for joining in, and yes, a great easier kit by WNW, i have seen your builds on other sites, wonderful stuff!
Hi Lukas, Thank You for joining in!
Suzanne, it's a pleasure to welcome you, I hope it gets you going with a WNW kit...
Des, Thank you for commenting, these are older photos, the build is much further, but not complete yet... we are catching up...
RAGIII, thanks for following along...
Well, next I started painting the insides, a very neutral shade to represent clear-doped linen on the insides, and picking out the woodwork in a woody brown... not that neat, but not much will be seen when everything is closed up...
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Then paint up some ammo canisters.. just silver undercoat...
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Then had to paint the Vickers, Gunmetal, quick wash of black and a little highlighting with silver rub 'n buff, I don't like guns to be too dark, especially if they are tucked away under the top wing...
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And then the instrument panel. My technique here is fairly standard: After the brown undercoat, I used thinned oil paints (W&N Burnt umber) to create a grainy appearance and allow it a few days to dry. Then coat that with Tamiya Clear Yellow acrylic, airbrushed on in a thin lcoat to imitate the varnish. Then I pick out the instrument bezels in black or brass. When it's dry add the WNW instrument face decals, they're good! Then a touch of gloss acrylic varnish to represent the glass...
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Regards,
Marc
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Nice progress, Marc! The instrument panel and MG look great!
George
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Marc,
You are moving right along. The fuselage, MG, and Instrument Panel look great!
RAGIII
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Very good progres, Marc. ;D
Cheers
Martin
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It's nice to see another of these under construction. This kit and particular aircraft was my first (and so far only) 1/32 scale build.
Are you aware of the lower planes/fuselage fit problem that must be overcome?
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You did a brilliant job with the instrument panel Marc.
Des.
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Hi, George, Squiffy, RAGIII, Martin and Des, Thank You all very much for your encouraging comments! It makes posting here an absolute pleasure, and it's real encouragement... Herewith a few updates: I spent some time on the seat with some Tamiya brown undercoat shades (in Acrylic), then followed that up with oils to give the leather effect: Then I added the seat belts after some weathering... Sorry, but photobucket wouldn't rotate the photo for me, I tried hard enough!
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Then I moved on to the cockpit floor. I have been warned that the fit of parts is very tight, and even a coat of paint can upset the fit and cause alighnment problems in later steps... Also the control wires need some help to end up in the right position... so there is no paint on the edges of the floor and the white bar (a piece of plasticard that will be hidden by the seat) is glued in place:
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Then I started the fun bit: Control wires for the elevator (from the stick) and for the rudder (from the rudder bar)... due to the shadows these look a bit curved, but are straighter in real life!
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It all looks a bit messy now, but I think all the rough bits will end up hidden! I work on the basis that if you cannot see it, it can't hurt! Thats all for now.
Regards,
Marc
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Nice work, Marc.
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Great progress, Marc. I especially like the instrument panel.
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Marc, very great update.
Cheers
Martin
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Terrific work on the floor board and seat! The leather treatment is outstanding! I am watching your build with interest as the Pup is one of the 3 WNW kits I will have left after my current dual build.
RAGIII
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You are moving along very well with this build Marc, the seat and belts turned out brilliant, the control rigging on the control column and rudder bar is extremely well done.
Des.
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Thank You Des for the encouragement. RAGIII, it is a great kit that just wants to build itself, thanks for commenting! Matin, Thank You for checking in! Przemo, Your interest and support is greatly appreciated! Hi Bo, Wonderful to have you following along!
Well I took a little diversion and worked on the engine: It went together well, but the key for aligning the inlet pipes to the maim crackcase body may need a little trimming so the pipes mate properly to the cylinder heads... no biggie, just needs care. Then I coated it with Hunbrol enamel gunmetal, an oil wash and some old-school Silver Rub 'n Buff for highlighting....
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Note I use masking tape on all those pegs and places that assemble into other parts: The engineering tolerances are so fine a layer of paint will interfere!
All The Best,
Marc
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Very fine engine, Marc.
Cheers
Martin
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Marc,
Your engine is looking fantastic!
RAGIII
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Your engine is looking really good Marc, I like the colours you have used.
Des.
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This is a beautiful build, wonderful work. The Pup will probably be my first or second WNW so a thread like this is a wonderful inspiration.
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Sorry for missing your build log, Marc! You are doing
a wonderful job of an aeroplane dear to my heart. I
really like your wood treatment as well as the superb
seatbelts. Looking forward to the next updates, my friend. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Very nice, Marc. You're making excellent progress and one day, when I get round to my Pup, I'll be following your example.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Great work, Marc. I really enjoyed this kit and it's clear you are doing so, as well.
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Excellent start, Marc!
Cheers,
Bud
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Thank You Everyone for the interest and replies, my Thanks to Martin, Rag III, KiwiZac, Des, Ernie ( You can never be late!), Nigel, it really is a great kit, Michael and Bud! The interest and comments make the modelling real fun and keep me going.
This photo shows how I break things down to sub-assemblies and try to do all the similar colours at once: here all the metal parts are undercoated in silver before I attack them with other shades:
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Also all the wood parts are undercoated; Then I started assembling the cockpit frames after doing the usual wood effect on them: At this stage they are only dry fitted, but the fit is so good they just stay together! Also I mask the small pins on the struts as I know just a layer of paint will affect the fit;
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Even the seat is dryfitted... I think these views are a little out of order, really....
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But then I tried fitting everything together to make sure it fitted: Sure enough, there were places I had to remove paint and trim just a bit to get the fuselage sides to fit around the cockpit parts: Best to check first at this stage before committing to glue!
But some progress made...
Regards,
Marc
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Outstanding wood tones on your fuselage longerons, formers and struts! Your work on painting the wood stringers over the CDL is excellent. I am looking forward to seeing your further work on the metal!
RAGIII
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You are doing an excellent job with the interior work, the wood colours are very well done.
Des.
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Very good work.
Cheers
Martin
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Marc,
Beautiful work with the interior my friend. Very impressive woodwork painting and I love her seat and seatbelt. Keep up the outstanding progress.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Thank You, Rag II, Des. Matin and Gregory for your replies, it's always good to have encouragement as you progress! Although I may not be as good a modeller as others on this site, I enjoy the company and the good advice! The next step is a bit difficult to show in photographs, maybe I can describe it better: The fit of the fuselage parts around the cockpit structure is very tight: I think some one has already alluded to a fit problem in this kit: Actually, it all fits OK, just the thickness of a coat of paint can throw it off! Firstly, make sure the cockpit frame sides fit perfectly on the lower wing assembly. You may have to scrape the paint off the mating surfaces! Then slide the cockpit sides towards the mid-line to check they fit: Take paint off if needed! Then take them off and try the fit of the cockpit top over the frames: Here I had to trim a little until everything fitted. Only then can everything be glued - shown here with the cowling and prop just dry-fitted...
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Regards and enjoy your modelling!
Marc
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You are doing a superb job with this model Marc, the cockpit interior looks brilliant with a great choice of colours, looking forward to the next update.
Des.
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Very beautiful update, Marc.
Cheers
Martin
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Hi Marc!!!
She is looking very sharp ;) Love your work!!!
Cheerio
Lukas
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Gorgeous work on the interior, Marc!
Cheers,
Bud
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Gorgeous work on the interior, Marc!
Cheers,
Bud
I agree with my Amigo Bud! The interior colors look perfect and you have achieved what looks like a perfect fit with the interior, fuselage, and wings! Well done.
RAGIII
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Regards and enjoy your modelling!
Marc
Gorgeous! I love this photo, very pleasing to the eye with the warm natural wood of the propeller and then all the cold metallics.
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Fine progress, Marc. Your Puppie is turning into a beauty.
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Sorry I have been a little scarce lately, Life has definitely got in the way... There's not much progress on the Pup, I have sprayed some black but it's all wet and I can't do photographs yet, that will come! A big Thank You to Przemo, Far East, Des, Martin Lukas and Bud for looking in and the very encouraging comments - it really helps! I left a photograph out before I closed up: here you can see the bracing wires (just) on the frame, made from stretched sprue. Very little can be seen after everything is closed up, this is enough for me!
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Regards,
Marc
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Very beautiful Marc.
Cheers
Martin
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She is coming together beautiful Marc, very impressive indeed.
Des.
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Continuing to look terrific! I really like the instrument panel! Your wires look great and it is nice to know someone else still uses stretched sprue on occasions 8)
RAGIII
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Very nice! I have both pups in my stash and I will be certainly returning here to steal many of your techniques!
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I've somehow missed this Build until just now. Great interior work, Marc, and well done on the "fit", this one can be tricky around the lower wing/fuselage join and the cockpit but you've aced it. Looking forward to following your progress now that I've found it!
Cheers,
Lance
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Time to get back to this really enjoyable project - I just wish I had more time to devote to it1 (Don't we all?). But Thank You to everyone who posts such encouraging comments... I am very flattered. Thank You Martin for your great comment. And Thank You Des for your encouragement and running such a great site. Rick, your comments are always appreciated and yes, the instrument panel turned out so much better than I expected, I hope I can do it again sometime! I was brought up on stretched sprue, and it mostly works for me... so I carry on using it! James, praise from you is a great honour. When I go through your Roland thread, I can see now that THAT is modelling! Hi Lance, I didn't have any fiit problems really, in spite of warnings and some problems that others have had. But I did clean up the parts (mould lines etc) very well and made absolutely sure paint didn't get into any joints, and the fit is tight! Thank You for checking in...
So I'm getting some paint on... first the black on the cowling and nose panels, first a quick spray of cheap hairspray, then Tamiya acrylic black - a matt and shiny mix, then attacked with a scouring pad... It looks a bit stark and may even be overdone, but I can tone it down with washes or even blast a shiny layer of black over it again!
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Another view of the cowling in a different light...
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What do you think?
Regards,
Marc
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Looks great to me! Keep up the terrific work.
RAGIII
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That looks perfect! I really like the effect and should try the technique myself in time. Keep them coming!
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Very nicely done Marc, looking forward to seeing more.
Des.
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Nice update.
Cheers
Martin
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Marc,
Great job. I like the worn effect on the cowling. You mentioned that you laid down a coat of black, then hairspray followed by Tamiya black. Was the first black coat Tamiya as well or does it need to be an enamel?
Thanks,
v/r,
Rob
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Thank you all for looking in and the replies - it really does help. When I get to this painting phase I always go a bit slower - I like the paint to dry and cure before re-coating... Thank You Des Martin, FarEast and RAGIII for the comments - really appreciated. Rob, Thank You for your comments too. Just to review exactly how I did it - The first layer was Tamiya Acrylic Aluminium, sprayed on in a fairly thin coat and allowed to dry for at least a week to really harden up. Then at the same session I sprayed a generous layer of hairspray (The cheaper stuff is better, I find) and allow it about 20 mins to dry - it must be dry to the touch. Then I sprayed a coat of Tamiya Black - also acrylic - here a mixture of Gloss and Matt with a touch of grey to lighten it a bit for scale effect. I dilute the paint well with Tamiya Acrylic thinners and literally mist over a few light coats until the black has covered the silver (and Hairspray) completely. Now I wait til it is touch dry - about 30 mins in our hot and dry atmosphere! Then at the same session I attack it with a scouring pad and create the scratches and chips - Scrape for the scratches and grind for the chips! I use the pads with the plastic kind of rougher side, the metal ones would be too rough... The trade name here in Darkest Africa is Zim... The technique is always worth a try, I got great effects creating that snow camo wearing off armour models with it... When I next do it I'll take photos and do a step by step...
Sorry for the long winded reply! Back to the Pup... Masked the black cowling panels and sprayed the underside... I don't know if the colours will be the same to you, but it's a nice deep cream... now all I need to do is mask the rib tapes and spray around them for the deeper shadows... that should take me a few weeks to do!
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I didn't forget to do the ailerons! But I will paint, mask, repaint and decal them separately before attaching them... 'sigh" I don't see a quicker way of tackling this....
Regards,
Marc
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Hello Marc!!!
Looks to me like she is ready for some paint ;) Can't wait to see you taking on the camouflage... also there is no need for quicker ways in our hobby as long as you enjoying it - all ways that lead to the great results (that you are after) are the right ones ;) :D
Cheerio
Lukas
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Looking forward to the next painting phase!
RAGIII
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Marc,
Thanks for the explanation. I'll have to try it. Take your time on the painting. It's a hobby with no deadline ( unless it's a group build or there's a contest you want to enter coming up :) ). Have fun!
v/r,
Rob