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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Nigel Jackson on May 11, 2015, 09:17:31 PM

Title: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: Nigel Jackson on May 11, 2015, 09:17:31 PM
Hello All

The latest Hanants Hot News email (8 May) includes the following

Aircraft guns (resin)
ED632054 1:32 Lewis Mk.III WW1 gun (designed to be used with Hasegawa kits)  £4.50  £3.75
http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/ED632054


Following the link will take you to a page which can link to a pdf at Eduard. I can only surmise that the reference suggesting it is designed to be used with Hasegawa kits is an error on Hanants part, unless they know something I don't.

I Have no idea as to the quality, but I'm more than happy with the magnificent output from Gaspatch and would need good reason to change.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: Derrick on May 12, 2015, 12:27:38 AM
Just having taken a quick look, the Eduard gun is listed as a mark III. Gaspatch does not have that listed amongst theirs. Not sure what aircraft would have used that version.
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: eclarson on May 12, 2015, 12:44:06 AM
I did a little research and I believe the Mk III Lewis guns were introduced in 1918 so would be applicable to late-war aircraft.  To me, the Mk. III looks very similar to the Mk. I (as they both lack the barrel cover as seen on the Mk. II).  Looking through my WNW kits, the Eduard guns might work for the twin mount on the DH.9a "Ninak".

I've got a set of the Eduard guns coming from Sprue Brothers so I'll be able to see how they compare to the kit guns.

Yes, the Gaspatch products are lovely but I refuse to pay what amounts to 25% of an entire Wingnut kit for a pair of guns.
The Eduard guns are more reasonable at $7.49 per set (Sprue's price in the US) and if they are an improvement over the kit guns, I'll buy more.  Especially if they bring out a Mk. II set which appears to be the type found in most British WNW kits.

Cheers,
Eric

Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: Kai on May 12, 2015, 01:07:45 AM
They also do the MkII:

http://www.eduard.com/store/out/media/632049.pdf (http://www.eduard.com/store/out/media/632049.pdf)

To me, these seem to offer far better value than Gaspatch.
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: eclarson on May 12, 2015, 01:53:26 AM
They also do the MkII:

http://www.eduard.com/store/out/media/632049.pdf (http://www.eduard.com/store/out/media/632049.pdf)

To me, these seem to offer far better value than Gaspatch.

Oh cool!  I didn't think to search for those.  Duh.  Thanks!

Eric
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: coyotemagic on May 12, 2015, 01:59:16 AM
I would be curious as to how much of an improvement these are over the WNW guns.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: eclarson on May 12, 2015, 02:28:13 AM
I would be curious as to how much of an improvement these are over the WNW guns.
Cheers,
Bud

Me too, which is why I decided to try one set.  I'll let you know. 

Although, IMHO, there's nothing wrong with the WNW guns!  Properly painted and weathered they certainly look the part, and once installed and viewed as part of the whole model, I doubt many could tell the difference between them and aftermarket replacements.

Cheers,
Eric


Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: uncletony on May 12, 2015, 02:51:43 AM
Gaspatch detail is clearly superior -- check solid trigger on Eduard, filled in gap between the barrel and the gas tube, as well as the space inside the drum strap. Well worth the extra $$ imo but to each his own!
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: ondra on May 12, 2015, 03:11:14 AM
I have to agree with Bo, the Gaspatch product is clearly better in terms of details and I am not really sure who is supposed to be the target group for the Eduard Brassin. I should get the Lewis Mk.II for review in June and I am curious about the value added versus the guns provided directly in the WNW kits.

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: Michael Scarborough on May 12, 2015, 03:25:54 AM
Am I missing something? It says for "1/32 Hasegawa kits". So which kits could that mean?

As far as price, I believe it's the same story with all after market offerings. It was the same discussion re: Steven Robson's spoked wheels and those being offered by John W. There is definitely a difference in price and, most definitely, a commensurate difference in quality. It's up to each individual builder to decide what level of detail and accuracy he, or she, wishes to achieve. But, I don't think any of the aftermarket folks are getting rich. I am just glad there are people who are willing to take the financial risk of producing this sort of thing for those of us who appreciate it...and I intend to continue supporting them when it's feasible for me to do so. 

Cheers (for them) from NYC,
Michael
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: ermeio on May 12, 2015, 03:56:00 AM
I think that "hasegawa" refers to a future reboxing of the Italeri Nie 17 for the eastern market.
We already have plenty of italeri kits under the labels Tamiya and Hasegawa and lately Italeri has a lot of Hasegawa re-boxed kits (Mustang, Typhoon and the like)
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: Captain Slower on May 12, 2015, 09:47:20 AM
Is the Italerai N.17 the Hobbycraft N17?
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on May 12, 2015, 09:59:31 AM
yes the italeri n.17 is the hobbycraft.

by hasegawa maybe they mean things like a swordfish or other 1/32 btween the wars craft.
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: eclarson on May 13, 2015, 06:56:27 AM
Update - I made a comment earlier about the prohibitive expense of Gaspatch's guns but have since learned it is much less expensive to order direct than through an in-country (U.S) distributor.  So, I've just placed an order for several items from Gaspatch including a set of Mk.II Lewis guns.  :)

I had to order a few more things from Sprue Brothers today and included a set of Eduard's Mk II Lewis guns so when all have arrived I'll do an unbiased comparison between the Gaspatch, Eduard, and WNW kit versions. 

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: lcarroll on May 13, 2015, 08:17:10 AM
    I used a Gaspatch Lewis on my recent DH2. It is definitely far superior to the WNW Kit supplied version (which is pretty d''''d good in it's own right) As said earlier, to each his own! It will be interesting to see Eric's Eduard to Gaspatch comparison.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: kornbeef on May 14, 2015, 03:46:43 AM
Gonna need to do something with that handle on the magazine though... Why on an otherwise rather nice set did they do that? :(

Keith
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: Des on May 14, 2015, 09:51:54 AM
As said earlier, each to his own - but I will be supporting the companies that support the forum, the GasPatch products are superb.

Des.
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: Nigel Jackson on May 14, 2015, 03:43:37 PM
As said earlier, each to his own - but I will be supporting the companies that support the forum, the GasPatch products are superb.

Des.

Agreed.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: lcarroll on May 14, 2015, 10:39:20 PM
........and a solid +1 on both counts from me as well! :)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: Hellboy on May 23, 2015, 12:38:58 AM
I can not judge what is Gaspatch product, but here's Lewis Eduard.
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on May 23, 2015, 08:23:34 AM
nice job on the magazine handles hellboy
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: Pgtaylorart on May 23, 2015, 08:28:00 AM
nice job on the magazine handles hellboy

Yeah, that's what I noticed too, the leather straps look great.
Title: Re: Eduard 1/32 Lewis gun
Post by: Des on May 23, 2015, 08:46:34 AM
Lovely looking machine gun Hellboy, the magazine handle is superb, well done.

Des.