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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => WW1 Vehicles and airfield equipment => Topic started by: Jamo on May 11, 2015, 07:39:44 PM

Title: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Jamo on May 11, 2015, 07:39:44 PM
I would love to see one of these produced as a model. What do others think? Would make for some outstanding dioramas

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Z%20Oddments/Aircraft%20trailer_8.jpg)

(http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=83784&d=1384161557&thumb=1)

(http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=83783&d=1384161552&thumb=1)

(http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=82942&d=1382293371&thumb=1)

(http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=60874&d=1335530797&thumb=1)

(http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=59101&d=1331940373&thumb=1)

(http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=59099&d=1331940361&thumb=1)

(http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=59100&d=1331940367&thumb=1)

(http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=60876&d=1335530806&thumb=1)

(http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=79459&d=1376314872&thumb=1)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Z%20Oddments/Aircraft%20trailer_4.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Z%20Oddments/Aircraft%20trailer_6.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Z%20Oddments/Aircraft%20trailer.jpg)

(http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=52754&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1319888905)

I think these next images may be from Doug Baumann:

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/D_Baumann/trailers/031.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/D_Baumann/media/trailers/031.jpg.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/D_Baumann/trailers/008.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/D_Baumann/media/trailers/008.jpg.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/D_Baumann/trailers/006.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/D_Baumann/media/trailers/006.jpg.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/D_Baumann/trailers/P001537.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/D_Baumann/media/trailers/P001537.jpg.html)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/D_Baumann/trailers/047.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/D_Baumann/media/trailers/047.jpg.html)

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?27086-RFC-Tender-Trailer/page4

Richard - what do you reckon?

Cheers
James

(http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=83823&d=1384262349&thumb=1)
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Des on May 11, 2015, 09:08:17 PM
What a great idea Jamo, would certainly add a lot of interest to dioramas, thanks for posting the images.

Des.
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Nigel Jackson on May 11, 2015, 09:18:41 PM
Yes, definitely a great idea.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Ssasho0 on May 11, 2015, 10:12:46 PM
I agree, that one good  idea. Maybe Taurus or Aviattic can step up for the task...
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Des on May 12, 2015, 12:28:17 AM
Excellent news Richard, looking forward to hearing any further developments with this project.

Des.
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: ermeio on May 12, 2015, 01:04:36 AM
Great Idea: I remember an article in Airfix Magazine (probably a special booklet) in the '80s:
actually I had started to scratchbuild one in 1/32, using a converted Ol Billy Bus as a trailer... it is still to be completed in some drawer of doom.
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: malaula on May 12, 2015, 01:17:06 AM
Done!This is my 72nd scale trailer made a few years ago...wish I had had your fotos then,Jamo!

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k152/matzmodel/1-P1020137_zpsiee8frbq.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/matzmodel/media/1-P1020137_zpsiee8frbq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Mattrix25 on May 12, 2015, 09:31:04 PM
 ;D  Your timing is impeccable, (made me laugh)
       Your scene is Brilliant
       Great work there,Matz,as always !

  Regards,
                Matt.
       
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: uncletony on May 12, 2015, 10:36:06 PM
Seen many of those photos many times and still never fully comprehended that the trailer was a standard, specialized aircraft handling item. Definitely a great idea for a kit.
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: lcarroll on May 12, 2015, 10:44:16 PM
    Like Bo I always assumed the trailer was something cobbled together at the front to fit an immediate requirement to recover a few aircraft. When you consider that aircraft recoveries, both friendly and captured, were a very common occurrence a purpose designed and built piece of equipment makes perfect sense.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Michael Scarborough on May 13, 2015, 04:02:28 AM
Great idea, James....glad Richard already thought if it!

Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: KitRookie37 on May 13, 2015, 05:08:23 AM
Hello gentlemen,
I'll follow. It will be fine for a diorama.
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Jamo on May 13, 2015, 05:39:26 AM
Done!This is my 72nd scale trailer made a few years ago...wish I had had your fotos then,Jamo!

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k152/matzmodel/1-P1020137_zpsiee8frbq.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/matzmodel/media/1-P1020137_zpsiee8frbq.jpg.html)

Pity we don't have a 'like' feature. Nice modelling Matz!
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Rob Hart on June 01, 2015, 06:35:53 AM
Kits of that trailer could conceivably lead to more botched/unfinished aircraft models reaching completion.
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Squiffy on June 01, 2015, 06:45:24 AM
Thanks for posting the photos, James. If someone can provide me with dimensions of the real thing I may have a go at scratchbuilding one in 72nd scale.
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: lone modeller on June 11, 2015, 02:55:04 AM
Thanks for posting the photos, James. If someone can provide me with dimensions of the real thing I may have a go at scratchbuilding one in 72nd scale.

I will second that: if anyone could provide a set of drawings I would be very grateful as I would like to give it a go as well.

Stephen.
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: uncletony on June 11, 2015, 03:08:53 AM
You should be able to work out the dimension close enough for your purposes by comparing it to the known sizes of the various aircraft seen strapped to it, no? Ditto the wheel diameter which appears to be very close to that of the albatros atop it...
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Dirigible-Al on June 11, 2015, 03:30:55 AM
That is a dam coincidence
I came to the conclusion only a few days ago on what to do with a couple of aircraft that were damaged beyond full repair. rather than break them up for parts one will be used as a new aircraft being delivered by truck and the other a downed badly damaged plane being recovered. I did alot of goolgeing to see what trucks were appropriate and saw alot of trailers too but also came to the conclusion that they were not standardised and were either custom built or comandeered. The fact that Richard is making one as a kit is a bonus. It would be the cherry on the cake if he were also to make a kit for a Leyland 3 ton RAF type truck!
Alan.
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Pgtaylorart on June 12, 2015, 01:48:29 AM
This may be a little off topic, but while searching on the net for the Leyland 3 ton truck I found this photo. It's an early Daimler "armored" vehicle with a machine gun. How would you like to take this into battle?! :o

(http://imageshack.com/a/img538/2691/D4JeKc.jpg)

This is a Motor Scout in June 1899. By the way, the gent on the bike is Frederick Simms who opened Daimler motors in the UK which is possibly the first motor car company in the UK.

George
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Dirigible-Al on June 13, 2015, 10:59:23 PM
My ones bigger than yours!
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Michael Scarborough on June 25, 2015, 02:51:22 AM
This is too funny.....I had forgotten all about this post Jamo. But the timing of my re-finding it is perfect. Here's my plan:

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag293/michaelscarborough1/AC%20-%20Albatros%20DV%20-%20Lulu/DSC_1590_zpsyow9lra4.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/michaelscarborough1/media/AC%20-%20Albatros%20DV%20-%20Lulu/DSC_1590_zpsyow9lra4.jpg.html)

PLUS

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag293/michaelscarborough1/2009-01-012000_00_00-019_zps3l6spn7x.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/michaelscarborough1/media/2009-01-012000_00_00-019_zps3l6spn7x.jpg.html)

PLUS

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag293/michaelscarborough1/TW54E08_Side_Right_zpsm6glqkep.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/michaelscarborough1/media/TW54E08_Side_Right_zpsm6glqkep.jpg.html)

EQUALS SOMTHING LIKE

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag293/michaelscarborough1/rfc3_zpsdy9x2i7g.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/michaelscarborough1/media/rfc3_zpsdy9x2i7g.jpg.html)

NOW ALL I NEED IS TIME.

Yes, by all means, if someone comes up with accurate dimensions, please post them. If not, Bo's ideas for scaling from the pix will work.

Cheers,
Michael

Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Pgtaylorart on June 25, 2015, 02:59:12 AM
Is that the Albatros that you recently stopped working on because of the sticky fingers? It's looking really great! Throw a tarp over the damaged area of the fuse and this will be a very nice diorama. With the variety of vehicles here, I can't wait to see this take shape. :D

George
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Michael Scarborough on June 25, 2015, 04:10:13 AM
Good eye, PG! That's actually it before I started working on it and converted it to Lulu.

Yes, I think this will be a fun diorama with plenty of opportunity to use figures.

All I need is 25 hours in an 8 day week.

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: uncletony on June 25, 2015, 07:08:39 AM
Read back a page or two Michael -- Aviattic announced plans to release a kit of the trailer in 1:32.
Title: Re: British aircraft recovery trailer / tender trailer
Post by: Michael Scarborough on June 25, 2015, 08:50:00 AM
Yep, I saw that. If its as good as the fuel cart it will be a winner.

I also think this cart would make a super and straight forwArd scratch building project, if one were so inclined.

MS