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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => WW1 Aircraft Information/Questions => Topic started by: Ernie on May 09, 2015, 11:35:12 AM

Title: Morane-Saulnier question
Post by: Ernie on May 09, 2015, 11:35:12 AM

Hi everyone,
  I have a quick question about the Morane-Saulnier "N" model.  Does anyone know
what the interior cockpit framing was made of, wood or metal tubing?  I have seen
drawings of both but nothing more definite.  I have been looking for the Windsock 58
but so far have not been able to find a copy for sale.  Thanks for any help you can
give me.

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Title: Re: Morane-Saulnier question
Post by: IanB on May 09, 2015, 01:09:49 PM

Can't help much I'm afraid - the Windsock Datafile doesn't say what the structure was....

Ian

Title: Re: Morane-Saulnier question
Post by: ondra on May 09, 2015, 04:28:51 PM

I do not have a photo of the interior (and can not even remember to have seen one) but as far as I know it is presumable that the cockpit framing was made of wood. This applies for Morane L (somewhere I saw a photo of the fuselage with canvas removed and the whole framing was wooden). As for Morane N, I do not see many reasons for metal tubing, as this is rather typical for german constructions. E. g. in England using metal tubes for airframe construction was not allowed until 1920's as the authorities did not trust the technology. I don't know how about France, but even significantly later constructions as for example the SPAD or Salmson were using wooden framing.

Sorry I can only support with best guess.

Ondra

Title: Re: Morane-Saulnier question
Post by: xan on May 09, 2015, 04:29:54 PM

Hello Ernie,
the fuselage frame was in wood except in the cockpit wich was in metal tubes.
you will see it very clearly in those 3D drawing:
http://www.lescasquesdecuir.com/n-projet.php  (http://www.lescasquesdecuir.com/n-projet.php)
the metal structure was realy blue, because of the protective varnish color...

Xan

Title: Re: Morane-Saulnier question
Post by: rhwinter on May 09, 2015, 05:37:03 PM

Quote from: xan on May 09, 2015, 04:29:54 PM

Hello Ernie,
the fuselage frame was in wood except in the cockpit wich was in metal tubes.
you will see it very clearly in those 3D drawing:
http://www.lescasquesdecuir.com/n-projet.php  (http://www.lescasquesdecuir.com/n-projet.php)
the metal structure was realy blue, because of the protective varnish color...

Xan

MOST interesting and informative! Thank you, Xan

Title: Re: Morane-Saulnier question
Post by: Ernie on May 09, 2015, 09:44:58 PM

Thank you very much Ian, Ondra, Xan, and Alain.  Your
input is much appreciated!  Xan, thank you for the link which
will help immensely. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Title: Re: Morane-Saulnier question
Post by: IanB on May 09, 2015, 10:51:42 PM

Thanks for that link, Xan - what a fantastic reference. I've bookmarked that one for future use!

Ian