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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: janh on May 01, 2015, 05:30:24 AM
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A little Surprise from HPH (courtesy of Jan Bobek) available in June
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That is a very smart choice by HPH. It's in the Wingnuts scale but a subject unlikely to be kitted by Wingnuts so little chance of being scooped. Esoteric enough to appeal to many modellers with the added bonus of being a WW1 floatplane. Subject to price, it should sell well.
Let's hope HPH are encouraged to do more WW1 subjects.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Wow.
Fantastic.
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A very Tempting subject!
RAGIII
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Very cool! One of my favorite subjects in GINORMOUS scale!
Cheers,
Bud
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A little Surprise from HPH (courtesy of Jan Bobek) available in June
Great there goes my hard work to the drain.... >:(
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Great to see this aircraft finally kitted in 1:32 scale, I have been waiting for one of these for a long time.
Des.
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Ron,
Don't even go there! That attitude has stymied Roden, Special Hobby, and HobbyCraft for
years. It's not "Wingnut's Scale". That scale was alive long before WNW came along.
They just took it up a notch. There are still "Modelers" out there.
Jim
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who is hph, i dont recall hearing of that company before?
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One of my most favourite WWI aeroplanes, must have one of these. I have seen their Catalina in 1/32 and it was absolutely extraordinary and beautifully done 8)
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They also have a bare bones Airco DH.2 in 1:18 scale, the pictures of it look really good.
Des.
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i just checked out their site theres another 1/32 subject of interest to us,though not ww1 its right after.looks nice although quite expensive
http://www.hphmodels.cz/index.php/en/shop-2/produkty-hph-models/modely-v-meritku-1-32/letov-sm-1-in-scale-1-32-detail
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Ron,
Don't even go there! That attitude has stymied Roden, Special Hobby, and HobbyCraft for
years. It's not "Wingnut's Scale". That scale was alive long before WNW came along.
They just took it up a notch. There are still "Modelers" out there.
Jim
Still gonna make mine ill wait for the HPH one and c what they come up with... I hope they will use the correct drawings. I know i will keep my poject secret till they are done. No more in progress pics.
Ron
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Ron,
Don't even go there! That attitude has stymied Roden, Special Hobby, and HobbyCraft for
years. It's not "Wingnut's Scale". That scale was alive long before WNW came along.
They just took it up a notch. There are still "Modelers" out there.
Jim
Still gonna make mine ill wait for the HPH one and c what they come up with... I hope they will use the correct drawings. I know i will keep my poject secret till they are done. No more in progress pics.
Ron
Take heart, Ron! They're pretty pricey. With the Letov at 170 euro and the Catalina at 600, I'm sure their M.5 will be somewhere in between and they might just price themselves out of and you in to our hearts and wallets.
Cheers,
Bud
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I've seen a couple of their kits and they are very well done The moldings are very nice and I have heard they build up very nicely
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the letov parts look great very detailed. this is a new age in resin,no longer do we have the poorly poured bubble ladel blobs with wings. a wonder what happened to woijec fayga he was doing a master for a pzl.p11c in brass.
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They also have a bare bones Airco DH.2 in 1:18 scale, the pictures of it look really good.
Des.
Have you got any pics Des ?
Cheers
Andrew
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Here are some pictures from their website but I have since found out that this model was specially made by HPH for a museum, it is not a main stream kit, pity.
Des.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-29zImjTHX84/VUM_GaedS1I/AAAAAAAAQ4c/sgeQXQcVAvo/s900/dh2_05.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UxLMNs3CRa0/VUM_F3lL7uI/AAAAAAAAQ4U/BvkeZunPX44/s900/dh2_12.jpg)
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I've got HPH's Supermarine Walrus kit. It's absolutely wonderful, around £150 or so.
I think HPH rather like their flying boats, what with the Catalina as well.
But, if you've never built a resin kit, it takes a LOT more time & effort than a WNW kit.
HPH will built pretty much any kit you ask them to, but at a price. I seem to remember that somebody ordered a 1/24 P-40 & they did that, but it cost around £700 or so I think?
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Wow, incredible, Des!! I want that!
But 1/18 scale? That's a bit odd. Why not 1/16?
George
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Great to see this aircraft finally kitted in 1:32 scale, I have been waiting for one of these for a long time.
Des.
Ditto, and ditto my ditto!!!!!
I'd love to see their Catalina in person. Considering my dad's connection to that iconic plane, it would be a natural for me but, at that price, I'd sure want to have a really good look at one. Also, I'm always concerned with resin kits re: the wings sagging. Has tis problem been overcome??
Cheers,
Michael
PS I knew George would want one of those Dh. 2s!!
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I'd love to see their Catalina in person. Considering my dad's connection to that iconic plane, it would be a natural for me but, at that price, I'd sure want to have a really good look at one. Also, I'm always concerned with resin kits re: the wings sagging. Has tis problem been overcome??
The Cat has fiberglass wings and fuselage - very rigid. Landing gear is resin cast around steel wire for strength and so it wont sag over time. Amazing kit really...
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OK, thanks, Petrov....
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Ron,
Don't even go there! That attitude has stymied Roden, Special Hobby, and HobbyCraft for
years. It's not "Wingnut's Scale". That scale was alive long before WNW came along.
They just took it up a notch. There are still "Modelers" out there.
Jim
Hey Can you explain yourself when you say there are still "modelers" out there? I would like to hear the explanation of this comment....
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i think ,what jim was implying was , because wnw kits are so well engineered and perfect fitting that makes them easier to build than an older tool or short run kit as most 1/48 and 1/72 scale kits are. a kit like a special hobby,blue max,aeroclub,vacuform or early eduard kit there are many problems and shortcomings of the kits that must be solved to get it done,correct inaccuracies and have it look ok. i see what he is saying in a way because if you take a wnw kit and have reasonable modeller skills you can follow the instructions and you will have a nice decent looking model. in a sense there is less traditional modelling skills needed to do a simple out of the box wnw build. i say simple out of the box build because there are true modellers building wnw kits,many of them on this very site. these guys go above and beyond to add extra scratch built embellishments and modify kit parts that are limited by the injection molding process to look more like the real parts. so my point is there are many true modellers also building wnw kits and also advancing earlier techniques with new technology etc. in the old days it was much more obvious to a layman which modellers had real skill because there models looked so much more realistic than an out of the box build of a primitive kit which is laden with issues. i see both sides of the argument but respect all modelling,not everyone can be bo,bertl,des etc,etc. its about having fun and learning some history along the way.
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Is there an argument? So those who build WNW kits are not "modelers"? Interesting, why pass judgement on what others do and what they build? If people choose to start with a great kit why should anyone care? I wonder why anyone would purposely start with a sub par kit unless they just loved the subject. Just sayin....
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There will be no flame wars here on this forum and this topic will be stopped if any further negative comment are posted.
No-one has said that those who build Wingnut kits are not modelers, I have built a heap of Wingnut kits and still class myself as a modeler, but I do like a challenge where I can exercise my modeling skills a bit further by building lesser quality kits or even scratch building, we are all modelers regardless of what we build or how well we build them
END OF STORY.
Des.
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This topic is now back on track where we will talk about the new HPH 1:32 scale Macchi M.5 which is soon to be released and promises to be a real beauty. From what I have seen of their other kits and reports I have read of them they are a brilliant kit, expensive but good. It is a breath of fresh air to see other manufacturers step up to the plate and start producing quality 1:32 scale WW1 aircraft kits.
Des.
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I don't know about your guys my computer keeps freaking out when I try to click on that link.....How big is this airplane? Is it multimedia? What do these guys normally produce? Resin? Injection molded? It certainly looks interesting.....
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Have a look here, once you get to the site you will be able to navigate your way around and see their awesome models.
http://www.hphmodels.cz/index.php/en/
Once on the site go to the gallery then you can select which scale you want.
Des.
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As HPH is a czech company, their models are very popular here in CZ, besides other reasons because they released several rare subjects with great importance for our history.
I read several reviews in the local modelling magazines and saw many kits built and I can say the quality is really excellent. Yes, the prices are rather high, but the product is worth every cent. They use all the advantages resin casting provides. Even though I do not build kits, this time I am really considering buying this one. Firstly Macchi M.5 is one of the most beautiful planes of WWI, secondly I am always happy to support a local producer.
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This topic is now back on track where we will talk about the new HPH 1:32 scale Macchi M.5 which is soon to be released and promises to be a real beauty. From what I have seen of their other kits and reports I have read of them they are a brilliant kit, expensive but good. It is a breath of fresh air to see other manufacturers step up to the plate and start producing quality 1:32 scale WW1 aircraft kits.
Des.
Hear, hear, Des...especially if they were to represent with the Italian and/or Eastern theatre aircraft. The Macchi M5 ain't nuthin' but cool. Great ship.
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Oh yeah!!! Beauty from CZrep :) Definitely a must in June :D
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Some more info and build pics of the pre-release model here (hope its OK to link to another forum - if not apologies and I will remove!)
http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=56081&page=2
Interesting that it has the laser cut wood parts....
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Quote from LSP: That would be the first time i see real wood in a kit.
Guess this gent is not of the Guillows generation.
I'm sure no Macchi expert, and I understand that they are reinforced, but do the struts seem overly thick? Having run into problems with the WnW Albatros and now hearing about the problems with the Junkers J.I undercarriage, I wonder if this is an attempt to beef things up regardless of aesthetics. Can someone with more experience comment? I wonder if some sharp after mkt. person will start making brass replacement struts for these problem aircraft.....Bo.
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Quote from LSP: That would be the first time i see real wood in a kit.
Guess this gent is not of the Guillows generation.
Ha - yeah, wood in a model airplane kit - that's inconceivable!
I still remember building a Guillows Nieuport when I was maybe 12, painting it with about 10 coats of grey gloss enamel from a spray can then trying to fly it - went about four feet and smashed right to the ground :'(
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Thanks for the link Petrov, it certainly looks to be a very nice kit, can't wait.
Des.
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115 Euro's is the price on HPH website
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That equates to around $135 Australian dollars without the tax (95€) plus post, kit is still not available yet.
Des.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RIiCD9UmUNM/VV-8Ia5D_jI/AAAAAAAARGM/EiscAzyBNds/s1100/M-5.jpg)
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$126.00 US......nothings getting cheaper.
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No Michael, I'm afraid that nothing is getting cheaper, just the sign of the times, the current currency exchange rate doesn't help much.
This kit appears to be a little different from the ordinary with the following features;
Primary parts and details made in resin
Fuselage and wings made from glass fibre
Instructions on a CD
Clear resin canopies and transparencies
Metal reinforcement cast into highly stressed resin parts
Photo-etched parts in colour by Eduard
Decals and masks
Laser cut textile seat belt by HGW
As the sign says on the front of the box, it is a limited edition but then most kits are these days. I will certainly be buying one of these kits when they become available.
Des.
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I'm with you, Des, I will definitely be adding one of these to my want list.
Someone said early on that the PBY these folks make has fiberglass winnings. I would assume that's the same as what they refer to here as glassfiber. I'd be very interested to see what the stuff looks like and how it works.
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Hello,
1/32 !!!
Goog news!!
But....
The hollow under the propeller seems wrong.
The floats under the wings are those of the first versions. There must be another pair floats in the box (?) . The drawings on the box shows the suspended floats.
The radiator air intake is more or less rectangular and the fairing under the engine will be check.
The space between the bottom of the radiator air intake and bottom of the engine is too small, so the front of the engine is not high enough.
The shape of the hull looks very good.
Photos of the kit are not without doubt those of the definitive kit. No ?
Regards
Louis
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That's Good News?
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Thank you Louis for the additional information.
Des.
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does look very nice. by the way hello louis been a while.
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They are available now. I had one on reserve ever since I bought a Walrus and Catalina. Hopefully it will be here early next week. At that time I will take some pics and post on here. I will build it in the group build as well.
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Tried to buy one todat from the HPH web site, I am a registered member of their site so went through the process of ordering and filling out post details, then it said that there are no available payment methods for my details, what gives, don't they want my money???? It may have something to do with the tax they have added onto the price of the kit, being outside EU means I don't have to pay the tax. Anyone else having issues with their orders?
Des.
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yep - same message and the tax doesn't seem to be taken out from a non-EU destination (plus the postage seems very expensive...). Hopefully it will be resolved shortly.
cheers
FF
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I wrote to HPH and just received a reply email, they wanted my mailing address and phone number then they will send me an invitation to pay via paypal, they send their parcels by Fedex hence the slightly higher postage charges.
Des.
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Did they deduct VAT?
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When I sent my mailing address back to them I asked them to deduct the tax, still waiting to hear back to see what the final price will be.
Des.
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ordered mine no problems
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I acquired the HpH Mig 15 in 1/32 scale last year; this is also a resin kit. If this is typical of their production I’d say that HpH go to great lengths to produce a comprehensively detailed kit. The kits are expensive but the box does contain a considerable amount of very well modelled/cast parts & thorough instructions. I do wish they’d have taken the hint from how Paul Fisher creates his resin aircraft kits & cast the fuselage in one piece (well one front & one rear half to the Mig 15) thus avoiding a difficult to deal with joint in resin, down the spine of the aircraft (happily the Macchi appears to have a one piece fuselage). That aside I rate HpH highly.
Having said that, from the parts I’ve had from Ron in the past I think any kit he’s involved with will have a standard of casting even better than HpH. I’m not knocking the HpH kits, far from it, they are excellent – it’s just that people like Ron (Aviattic) & of course Taurus have raised the bar even higher. I hope Ron makes his version available in some form but in the meantime we have at least a kit of a very interesting seaplane, one which is of manageable proportions as well.
The HpH website gives the details but it’s a resin kit with photo-etch parts & HGW textile belts.
Regards
Russell
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There's more than one Spitfire MkIX on the market - Ron and I have decided theres room for two Macchi M5's also! If only they'd sell in those quantities...
best wishes, Richard (Aviattic)...
Just for interests sake The Macchi M3 was identical to the Lohners,so there would be multiple decal options! I prefer the M3 over the M5.Just a thought.
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I wrote to HPH and just received a reply email, they wanted my mailing address and phone number then they will send me an invitation to pay via paypal,.....
Des.
When I ordered the Mig 15 I paid via a paypal invoice they generated rather than payment at moment of order on the site. Looks like it's the same system as you are seeing. I've found them fine to deal with.
Regards
Russell
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........ Ron and I have decided theres room for two Macchi M5's also! If only they'd sell in those quantities...
best wishes, Richard (Aviattic)...
So now I'm faced with the quandary of 'a Macchi in the hand or two in the bush' ;)
If you really are thinking of bringing one out I think I'll wait for it.
Regards
Russell
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I received payment notification from HPH for payment through PayPal. It ended up being €127 which included €32 for post, after currency conversion plus PayPals take it cost me $189AUD.
I purchased the HPH Macchi M.5 but if Aviattic release one as well I will buy that also, there are so many cool schemes for this aeroplane.
Des.
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I agree - its a beautiful seaplane with stunning schemes, plus I can imagine lots of lovely diorama possibilities with the lovely colors of the Adriatic. So yes, I'd buy 2 as well.
cheers
FF
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I'll wait for Richard's.
I have no doubt it will be well waiting for.
Besides that, and no offence intended, HPH are not of this team.
Mates first in my part of Oz. :)
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Well, I can't claim to be part of Oz, but I'm with Boggie when it comes to teams.
I'm waiting for Richard's.
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Michael, with your sense of humour and fun, we would be more than happy to claim you. :D
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That's very kind of you, Boggie.....and I'm sure my wife would be glad to send me to the other side of the world!
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That's very kind of you, Boggie.....and I'm sure my wife would be glad to send me to the other side of the world!
Hahaha!
Sounds to me your SWMBO has a pretty good sense of humour too.
Think you had better bring her with you! ;D
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I'll wait for Richard's.
I have no doubt it will be well waiting for.
Besides that, and no offence intended, HPH are not of this team.
Mates first in my part of Oz. :)
Well, I can't claim to be part of Oz, but I'm with Boggie when it comes to teams.
I'm waiting for Richard's.
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
I'm with Boggie and Micheal. Mates first. Since I've already got a 1/48 M-5 in the works, I've only got room for 1 in 1/32 scale, so I'll be waiting for the Aviattic kit.
Cheers,
Bud
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I'll wait for Richard's.
I have no doubt it will be well waiting for.
Besides that, and no offence intended, HPH are not of this team.
Mates first in my part of Oz. :)
As I am not a native speaker, I will do my best to formulate this post as best as I can to make it perceivable the way I mean it. Should I not succeed, please let me say upfront that there is no offense meant by posting the following sentences.
Except for one model I was given as a present, I have never built a WWI kit, as I simply like scratch building. But... As I know how few companies have enough courage to present a WWI plane despite knowing, how narrow the target group is, every company doing so is in my team, as well as any aftermarket producer or any other company posessing enough "balls" to enter this field. And I will always be happy to support every single one of these manufacturers to let them know the energy and expenditures they have invested are highly appreciated from my side.
It might be unfortunate, that HPH issued the Macchi M-5, and I fully understand your support to Aviattic and Bruno Stachel. From the posts I have seen here so far I am in awe of those products as well and regret not to build the suitable scale to use them.
But I find it really unfortunate to build "teams" on such a small playground.
Cheers
Ondra
P.S.: I will buy the HPH kit as well as the Aviattic one just to support these producers, no matter they will increase the number of kits in my stash I know about I will never build. ;)
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Hello, Ondra,
Your English is fine, particularly your accurate use of the important term, "balls", and, I for one, take no offense at all. I was just joking, actually. I wholeheartedly agree with you about the limited-run and aftermarket gang. They are brave and dedicated people and I intend to support as many of them as I can financially afford to. (Which, at the moment, is not at all, dammit!)
I think the show of support for Richard and his endeavoUrs is in no way meant as a slap at HPH. From all I hear they do magnificent work. I believe we were just showing our support for Richard as he is on these forums regularly.
I join you in stating that we don't need teams unless it is in a fun competition. Certainly not in our hobby! There is enough dissension in the world as it is.
I will also say that it is great that we all belong to a forum in which people can say what the really feel without ruffling feathers. Lang may it remain this way.
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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As what has already been said, we are playing in a very small playing field where many manufacturers fear to tread, and I mean MANY manufacturers. We as builders of WW1 model aircraft are very limited in choices for our chosen hobby so have to grab whatever is available when it is available, nearly all WW1 model aircraft kits are limited run. When I first started building 1:32 scale WW1 aircraft kits I purchased all that Roden had to offer, plus Special Hobby, Academy, Hobby Craft, Avis, Battleaxe, Alley Cat and whatever else I could find at the time. When Wingnuts came on the market I started buying everything they released which to date is just about every one of their kits. Now that Aviattic has started producing WW1 aircraft in 1:32 scale I will be supporting them along with HPH who have just released their Macchi M.5.
Of all the company names I have listed above, only one supports the forum and that is Aviattic, so if I only purchased models from the "Forum team" I would not have one kit yet. As well intended as it may seem supporting companies that support the forum has its drawbacks, and if we don't buy kits from other companies they would not even consider producing any new kits.
So, as much as I would like to pour all my money into forum supporters it is not a plausible thing to do, I would be waiting a long long time between kits.
My advice is to support all companies who are making WW1 aircraft kits and accessories, show them that there is a market out there for these products, we may only be a very small niche in the modeling market but we are very strong, long live WW1 aircraft modeling.
Des.
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Very wise words, Des. It is obvious to me why you run such a nice, fair, and intelligent forum! Thank you! :)
George
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I may well buy the HPH M.5; ... I will certainly purchase the Aviattic M.5.
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With WW1 aviation modeling being such a small part of the modeling market I am quite sure that there is room for everyone, the modelers are always on the look out for new WW1 releases and tend to grab whatever is available, I know I do.
HPH are very efficient, I ordered the Macchi M.5 yesterday, received notification from FedEx that the parcel had been pick up and I also received notification from HPH that the parcel has been sent with a tracking number, very good service. It will be interesting to see how long it takes FedEx to deliver the parcel to me in Australia.
Des.
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My Macchi M-5 from HPH was just delivered to my office by FedEX! A quick review of the contents indicates a complete and well-planned model. Looks beautiful! Now--back to work for me! I'll dive in more deeply tonight. ;)
Regards,
Bob
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Let's see if this works...
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Hate doing it this way, but I don't have access to my FTP to host on my website.
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Wings, they have some nice rib detail. You can see both the top and bottoms of each.
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Seems that it doesn't like me doing it that way. I will post more tonight when I can get on my FTP site.
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Seems that it doesn't like me doing it that way. I will post more tonight when I can get on my FTP site.
The images work fine for me; thanks for posting them.
It looks to be up to the expected HpH standard - did you get a little sweet in the box as well?
Regards
Russell
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Seems that it doesn't like me doing it that way. I will post more tonight when I can get on my FTP site.
The images work fine for me; thanks for posting them.
It looks to be up to the expected HpH standard - did you get a little sweet in the box as well?
Regards
Russell
I had ordered one of their Catalina and Walrus kits and was quite upset when I didn't find any chocolates in it. However, the Macchi did have a nice piece of chocolate. I gave it to the misses. Anyway, I will try and get some more pics up.
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Overall, I am very pleased with this kit. I hope to get started building it in a few weeks. You do have to make a few of the struts from plastic rod that you'll have to buy yourself. I applaud them doing this instead of casting them as they would easily warp and the model would be a mess trying to get it lined up. Definitely worth getting if you like seaplanes.
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For those who fancy 'mono-plane' bear in mind that HpH do a 1/48 scale kit of Concorde ;)
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This kit really looks great, many thanks for the photos.
Does anyone have a photo, what the seatbelts used on Macchi looked like? The HGW seatbelts in the HPH kit look pretty much like the english ones to me.
Cheers
Ondra
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Yes, this Macchi kit looks lovely. I've got one on order and have become a great fan of resin.
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Anyone know how long it usually takes between ordering and getting a paypal bill?
James
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Thanks very much for posting these! I will order with confidence.
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
PS Lordy, if they send a piece of chocolate with the M-5, they should send an entire case of chocolate with the Catalina!
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Hi guys,
Where is everyone ordering these from?
Thanks,
Mark
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Mark :
http://www.hphmodels.cz/index.php/en/shop-2/produkty-hph-models/modely-v-meritku-1-32/macchi-m-5-1-32-detail
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If you are out of the EU, it is usually the next business day that you hear from them and then the kit gets sent the next business day after that. Shipping is by FedEx Express which takes about 2 to 3 business days so all together you can expect your kit within a week. It has taken longer for me to get kits on the other side of the US. All of their kits are well wrapped in bubble wrap and in sturdy boxes. You might get a very small amount of breakage but that is due to slight shifting and resin's nature. Usually it is always a clean break and easy to fix with superglue. I really like their kits and wish I was into more of what they had. Hopefully they will do some more WWI stuff.
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I sent an email to this address [email protected] requesting the Macchi M.5 kit, I added my mailing address and phone number, I also said that because I was outside the EU that the tax had to be removed. Within a few hours I received an email with a request for money from Paypal with the kit cost minus the tax plus FedEX postage costs, I paid immediately. The following day I received notification that the kit had been picked up by FedEX and that it had been posted.
Des.
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Thanks for the info. I have written them asking when they will send an invoice as its been a couple of days already.
I was going to wait for Richards kit to come out from Aviattic, but something you said Des caused me to think. So I'll get one from each and support 2 companies rather than one and maybe more kits will become available for WWI subjects.
James
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I just received mine I live in the US on the west coast I ordered it from Cooper Models and They are a great place to buy from David said he ordered five so he might still have one It really is a great kit I hope they sell well enough to get them to make more Can't wait to see what Aviattic does with tha Ansaldo
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I went to order one of these, but the invoice came to 145 Euro's with delivery.
That's just too steep for me. It's a very small model & 145 Euro's is an awful lot of money.
So I'll skip this one. I have HpH's Walrus kit, but that cost only a little more and it's much bigger and more involved.
I'll probably invest the money in a Tamiya 1/32 Mossie, or a couple of Silver Wings kits.
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i really like their letov sm-1 more so but as you say kinda expensive. alhough quality does look very nice. i would have to get a deal from ebay at this point in time.too many other kits more desired to me .
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Thanks for the info guys!
Mark
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Correct me if iam wrong but i hear people talking about taking off the tax.... :o that would mean the guy who made it and sells it has to pay tax himself?
Ron
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Correct me if iam wrong but i hear people talking about taking off the tax.... :o that would mean the guy who made it and sells it has to pay tax himself?
Ron
Ron,
I'm VAT registered for business, if I sell a product or service within the EU then I have to charge VAT (sales tax) which is 20% in the UK. If I sell the product to a buyer outside of the EU then I don't add the VAT (or alternatively I remove 20% from a VAT inclusive price). This appears to be the situation with HpH.
If I wasn't VAT registered (due to turnover being below a certain level) then I don't add VAT onto any sale not matter if it's within the EU or outside of it. In this case there's no VAT to remove - if I said I was removing VAT for outside EU sales I would in effect just be giving away 20% of my revenue (as a discount) as you have suggested.
Regards
Russell
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Value-added tax
From Wikipedia
A value-added tax (VAT) or also General Sales tax (GST) is a form of consumption tax. From the perspective of the buyer, it is a tax on the purchase price. From that of the seller, it is a tax only on the value added to a product, material, or service, from an accounting point of view, by this stage of its manufacture or distribution. The manufacturer remits to the government the difference between these two amounts, and retains the rest for themselves to offset the taxes they had previously paid on the inputs.
The purpose of VAT is to generate tax revenues to the government similar to the corporate income tax or the personal income tax.
The value added to a product by or with a business is the sale price charged to its customer, minus the cost of materials and other taxable inputs. A VAT is like a sales tax in that ultimately only the end consumer is taxed. It differs from the sales tax in that, with the latter, the tax is collected and remitted to the government only once, at the point of purchase by the end consumer. With the VAT, collections, remittances to the government, and credits for taxes already paid occur each time a business in the supply chain purchases products.
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glad we dont have that crap in the u.s.a.
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glad we dont have that crap in the u.s.a.
Might be worth reading this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States
Cheers
Andrew
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glad we dont have that crap in the u.s.a.
Might be worth reading this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States
Cheers
Andrew
Quite so.
The key thing to bear in mind for those people living in the rest of the world (i.e. in non-EU countries), is: when buying goods from the EU is there’s no VAT charged on goods sold to buyers living outside of the EU. So the seller should deduct the VAT from the price (sticker prices of consumer goods are generally inclusive of VAT).
An exception would be if the vendor isn’t registered for VAT due to their turnover being below a certain threshold – in this case there’s no VAT charged on the sale price of the goods – so nothing to deduct.
Regards
Russell
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Vat or no Vat; my copy marked #45 on the wing pours was on the front doorstep in Chesterfield MO US this morning. :D
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Same here - Michigan in the USA it arrived here this morning. Shipping was costly but at least super quick....
Model looks very nice, only a few things I see as possible issues. Casting is top notch....
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Downer, I cant even get an invoice or response to my email. Maybe thats a good thing, save some money :)
James
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The only thing I didn't like about the kit was there isn't a printed instruction sheet The disc is nice but I like ti sit and read through an instruction manual I loved it when the instructions used to tell what the part was and had a nice history of what you were building I learned a lot when I was younger just from reading the instruction manuals I guess I still do I guess I'm what you'd call [Old School ]
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Yes, I am tempted to put in the A4 paper (I am in the US) and print a copy of the instructions if the disc will allow. Primarily to write in paint notations.
As to the kit itself:
1. I am very happy that they have provided indentations for drilling points.
2. Not sure if there is a mounting point on the lower wing for the vee struts. The supplementary bracing needs to be added with additional material but directions are included for these.
3. They only include the early wing floats, while both marking options require the later strut mounted floats.
4. I may do the prop in wood.
Otherwise beautiful kit. Look forward to building. Waiting to see if Rowan scales up his 1/48 M5 decals.
Wonder if they would consider an A/H flying boat?
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The only thing I didn't like about the kit was there isn't a printed instruction sheet The disc is nice but I like ti sit and read through an instruction manual I loved it when the instructions used to tell what the part was and had a nice history of what you were building I learned a lot when I was younger just from reading the instruction manuals I guess I still do I guess I'm what you'd call [Old School ]
I agree about those OLD instruction sheets. It is how I became familiar with what an elevator, aileron, rudder etc. was ;D
RAGIII
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Ordered :)
My first complete resin kit ( the second will be surely the Balilla), I hope that all will go well ::)
But I couldn' t resist: seaplane, italian and made by Macchi that is about 20 miles form where I live 8)
Cheers,
Andrew
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I received my kit today and although the CD instructions are good I printed out the entire instruction manual, 24 A4 full colour pages.
Des.
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I cant even get an email. Wonder who I ticked off and how? Oh well :(
Woo Hoo its coming :)
James
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For those wanting an insight into the construction the instructions are available from the HpH website:
http://www.hphmodels.cz/images/stavebni_navody/macchi_m_5_hphmodels_1.pdf (http://www.hphmodels.cz/images/stavebni_navody/macchi_m_5_hphmodels_1.pdf)
Regards
Russell
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For those wanting an insight into the construction the instructions are available from the HpH website:
http://www.hphmodels.cz/images/stavebni_navody/macchi_m_5_hphmodels_1.pdf (http://www.hphmodels.cz/images/stavebni_navody/macchi_m_5_hphmodels_1.pdf)
Regards
Russell
Looking at the instructions and photos of the parts it seems this is a very nice kit! Not my cup of tea at this time but perhaps in the future I may be more inclined to build a Macchi M5 8)
RAGIII
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Thanks for the link. Had looked before and didnt see it. Looks very nicely laid out. Looking forward to seeing some of these built and hearing opinions. From first glance though looks a beaut.
James
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I'm going to finish my scratch built Sikorsky S-16 then I might have a go at the HPH Macchi M.5, it looks to be a very impressive kit.
Des.
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I'm going to finish my scratch built Sikorsky S-16 then I might have a go at the HPH Macchi M.5, it looks to be a very impressive kit.
Des.
Looking forward to that. I succumbed to this kit as well; it will be great to see how you get on with it.
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Looking at the instructions I was puzzled why each pair of cylinders on the Isotta Fraschini V.4 seemed to only have a single valve on each side... This photo explains it all -- two valves sharing a single spring! Interesting...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Isotta_Fraschini_V.4B_(1).JPG)
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I was also puzzled when I printed out the instructions and saw only one spring, your photo explains it, thanks Bo.
Des.
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The M-5 is now on offer with a bonus: a carved wooden propellor