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Title: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on June 24, 2012, 01:43:37 AM: The quistion was already asked how to put a topic about scratch building since i dont have a kit to show.

Referens ill be using for the build is Caproni Ca.3 at war Volume 1&2 Scaled the drawing to 1/32 and stuck them on my door to my hobby room.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0181.jpg)
The material ill be using is mostly Styreen, for the wings ill use Balsa wood and ofcours the brass and copper for detailing.
Overall view:
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0192.jpg)

I diceded to start on the wings using the harry woodman methode.
First shaped 6mmx100x1000 balsa wood in the airfoil form using sanding bloks, then cut out the ailerons keeping in mind its 3mm smaler then the real wing.
The overall airfoil shape is 0.5mm smaller this is for the sheet of styreen that is gonna wrap arround the wing.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0187.jpg)
At first when i started collecting info and supplys for this build i had trouble on how to build the wings in one peach since all the sheets of styreen are 250x500mm and the overall wing span is 700mm
So i whent and search the web and found a store that sells big sheets in 0.5 x 1400x1000 for 6.95 so that's cheap two.
Here is the site where i got the stuff.
http://www.kunststofshop.nl/index.php?action=showbasket&lang=EN (http://www.kunststofshop.nl/index.php?action=showbasket&lang=EN)
Cutting the styreen using a guid rail for a circelsaw, using a knife.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0182.jpg)
On this picture i trached all the ribs on transparent paper and then taped it on a flat surface with underneat A4 paper and a sheet of rubber.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0183.jpg)
Then using a pen with a ball point and a straight edge of alu profile clamped on the table with the styreen between it, so it cant move.
Then using a try angel as a guid for the pen i pussed the ribs in the styreen.
Harry Woodman advice is using 0.25 styreen wich will be better, forming arround the wing but i coulden't find sheets that big of 0.25. So thats why i use 0.5 little more work but it worked fine for me.
For the smaller wings ill use 0.25.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0185.jpg)
Afther all the ribs are done on the sheet i pused with a bolled pen in the middel of the sheet over the length of the wing to stress the styreen to make it easyer to bend.
Then using tamiya tape i taped the wing on the inside where i dident wanted the contact glue to go and sprayed it from a spraycan from bison.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0188.jpg)
Did the same on the balsa wing core and left it to dry for 30 min.
I gave the balsa a second coat afther about 10min since its sucking up the glue.
Then the hard part comes placing the balsa in the styreen, it has to be right! straight away, since no correction is possible with contact glue.
This is the first time i use this methode and it whent whell the first time.
Here is the end result so far:
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0189.jpg)
When both wings where done i closed the gaps with styreen of
2mm x1.5 strips where the ailerons are.
In the mean time i sandwiched two strips of 3mm x17x125mm for the wing tips.
When dry sanded them in to shape so they fit the wing flawless took some time but looks good.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0191.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0194.jpg)
Over all here is where iam at:
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0193.jpg)

Made alerons for the main wings using 0.25 sheet styreen and inserted brass rodd of 0.5mm to act as a hinge.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0002.jpg)
USing a drill of 0.55 to accept the Brass rodd's.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0003.jpg)
Here the rodd's are bent in a L shape and glued in place with CA.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0004.jpg)
Making disks of 1.0mm and then cut in half glued on both sides of the Brass rodd to make it look like a hinge.

Next made a start with the tail section, cut all the shapes needed and sanded them square.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0223.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0227.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0228.jpg)
Here you can see my home made sanding Jig for sanding straight and square.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0231.jpg)
Prep for the eylets later on.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0233.jpg)
Now i have to for an order of styreen so i began making the tail.

Starting with the horizontal one made of 0.25 styreen sheet and 1.5mm balsa wood.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0234.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0241.jpg)

Overall dry fit so far.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0235.jpg)

The tail fins, made a mold of Balsa wood then used 1.0 mm tape to simulate the ribs and over that with a layer of tamiya tape 40mm.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0129.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0130.jpg)
Here the pivet points of the tail fins are in place i used 1.2mm tube for this.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0131.jpg)
Does anny one know if all three fins where used to controle or just the outside ones...?
The middel one is fixed with struts on pics in the Datafile.

Dryfit.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0133.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0134.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0136.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0137.jpg)

Made a start of the internal detailles for the engine bay.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0138-1.jpg)

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on June 24, 2012, 02:18:38 AM: Finaly i can post some progress been a while had some troubles with the tail wing.

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0159.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0158.jpg)
Engine bays ready for paint and to install in the tailbooms.

Started work on the center fuselage.

Using a mold to hold the styreen in shape with clamps and then boiled in water for a few min then left to cool down.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0160.jpg)
First time i did this i used boiling water from the fast cocker and poored it over it that dident work so i dipit it again in a pan to wich i had water boiling in it, then the shape held it's form.

Made the center struts out of wood and sanded them into shape, afther that i driped thin CA to the wood wich made it stronger and smooth when sanded.
Using a 0.7 drillbit making holes to fit 0.7 styreen rodd for extra strenght.
My drilling Jig for drilling holes in to thin parts.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0161.jpg)

Overall this is where iam at now.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0164.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0165.jpg)
Dryfit.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0166.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0168.jpg)
Engine bays in position and glued.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0169.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0170.jpg)

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: bobs_buckles on June 24, 2012, 02:49:47 AM: Ron,
A treasure trove of information. The drill jig is a great idea - cheers!

Keep going!
Von Buckle
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Jim52 on June 24, 2012, 03:06:08 AM: Ron,
That's quite the "Drill Press"! Could you post a couple more pictures of
the various sides of it? I've been looking for something similar and your idea
fits the bill!

Jim
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: coyotemagic on June 24, 2012, 04:22:22 AM: Truly brilliant work, Ron. I look forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Des on June 24, 2012, 06:47:24 AM: Excellent work to date Ron, I can appreciate the amount of time and effort you have put into this build, it will be a gem when completed.

Des.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 24, 2012, 08:47:14 AM: What a great, informative thread! While I'll never try anything like this, I sure enjoy seeing how you fellows go about doing it.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Whiteknuckles on June 24, 2012, 10:54:26 AM: Wow!!
Impressive Ron and lots of great info thanks.
Watching this build with lots of interest.

Andrew
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: GAJouette on June 24, 2012, 02:31:43 PM: Ron,
Truly outstanding works from a Master Level Craftsman.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Jose Chaica on June 25, 2012, 06:32:47 AM: This forum just gets better everyday.... :)
Excellent choice! The Ca.3 is a favourite of mine! I´ll follow this one close, and try to learn some more scratch techniques.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on June 25, 2012, 09:22:51 AM: Started work on the fuel tanks.

For the round parts i used old Russian weapons.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0001-1.jpg)
To mark the 3 tanks i cut dynamo tape to 8.8mm and placed it on the fuel tank to scribe a line all around the part.
This is done two times so that the tanks are 8.8.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0003-1.jpg)
Next using files i made the half rond dent in the tank.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0004-1.jpg)
For the edge of the tank i used 0.25 x 1.0 mm styreen strip using boiling water to keep it in shape then glued in place.
When all is dry all is sanded flus
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0005-1.jpg)
Have to put some rivit detailes in the tank but i dont have the decals for it yet, orderd Rivits and rib tapes from HGW anny one used this stuff before?

Afther fitting and sanding the top wings is installed as a dry fit.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0007.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0008.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0009.jpg)
All the struts are made of wood and sanded into shape long proces but the strenght of wood is better then styreen.
All the pins that go into the wing are 0.7 brass tube.

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: coyotemagic on June 25, 2012, 01:41:54 PM: Really beautiful work, Ron. She'll be breathtaking when finished.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on July 10, 2012, 05:36:11 AM: Took me a while to post again, but been decaling the rib tapes of HGW.
Result is verry good!
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0314.jpg)
Would have orderd it from HGW but they are out of stock, so i found Mister kit in Italy and they got 3 in stock lucky me.
In total its 3 sheets of Ribtapes to apply, only the top wing left to do then ill post some in progres pics as a go allong.

Next up is the fuel tanks almost done only need to place two strips arround and put some riveting detail with HGW rivit decals.

First made a mold of Basswood, then i glued kopper wire of 0.5mm on the mold.
Then using Foil took of a whine botle and press it with a clamp.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_078313.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_078314.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_078311.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0322.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0321.jpg)
Not to bad if i may say so myself.

Next the Nose section made this from Brass.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_078317.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_078316.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_078315.jpg)
At this stage its not done yet and all is a dry fit atm.

Next i made the steering wheels, using brass and copper wire.

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0783110.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_078319.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0319.jpg)

I choos the 8a Squadriglia Ace of Club insignia.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_078312.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0320.jpg)

Over all where iam at now.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_078318.jpg)

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: coyotemagic on July 10, 2012, 07:08:04 AM: Truly magnifient work, my friend. I'm glad to see those rib tapes working so well. I got some for my Aurora DH10a (when I ever get around to it).
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Des on July 10, 2012, 07:35:36 AM: Looking absolutely brilliant Ron, exceptional workmanship.

Des.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Jose Chaica on July 10, 2012, 08:02:35 AM: Looking great! :)
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Chris Johnson on July 10, 2012, 09:02:04 AM: Simply exquisite craftsmanship Ron. I always look forward to seeing how you scratch build things, so keep those image updates coming!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Whiteknuckles on July 12, 2012, 11:20:31 AM: Another 'Wow' project!!
Excellent work Ron, enjoying your detailed build very much.

Andrew
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: pepperman42 on July 13, 2012, 06:08:53 AM: Im not sure how I missed this before now but all I can say is - amazing!!! Great building techniques and problem solving!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: lcarroll on July 13, 2012, 12:28:19 PM: Ron,
I must have been sitting in the same "cone of silence" as Steve this past while, completely missed this thread but so glad I found it! Wonderful to follow through your progress, lots learned, and certainly tremendous compliments on what is truly a great example of the Modeller's Art even at this early stage of your build.
Press on, this is really great!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: chuckd on July 15, 2012, 12:32:54 PM: WOW! Unbelievable work on a cool subject. Your work is so crisp! Can't wait to see further progress.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on August 05, 2012, 07:24:33 AM: Slow progres on the build now started rigging the fuselage. pics soon.

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Whiteknuckles on August 05, 2012, 12:43:14 PM: Quote from: Ronkootje on August 05, 2012, 07:24:33 AM
....pics soon....

Looking forward to them!!

Andrew
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on August 26, 2012, 04:58:22 AM: Finally an update lots of pics so enjoy!

Starting with the seat made a mold of basswood and vac formed the backrest from 0.5 styrene sheet.

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0323.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0325.jpg)

Next up made the radiator from styrene since i need 6 of them i decided to make them out of resin, i have done casting before with poor results.
This result was poor because i didn't had a vacuum chamber to degas the silicone and resin.
So i made a vacuum chamber and bought a vacuum pump along with all the bits and peaces.
here is the master part.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0267.jpg)
Gonna poor 6 of them out of resin. Same thing with the engine witch i hope ill start next month.

Here are all the parts so far that need to be fitted in/on the fuselage.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0266.jpg)

Next the Front landing gear.

Used 2mm brass rod for this.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0026.jpg)
At this point i leave the Rodd intact for easy handling, used the gasstoof to heat up the brass until it was red hot and let it naturally cool off, this way the brass becomes easy to bend.
Next using round plyer shaped the Rodd in the global shape of the part and then start hammering with a flat hammer and pound it Flatt.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0027.jpg)
After beating the life out of the brass this is what i ended up with.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0029.jpg)
Used a waterproof pen to outline the part and started to sand file sand and file until the shape was the same on the drawings.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0031.jpg)
I used the same method for the main landing gear.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0023.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0024.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0025.jpg)
Then using masking tape of 2mm wrapped the landing gear.
eventually it looks like this.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0032.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0033.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0034.jpg)
The reason why i use brass is that i can make real small parts and solder it which in turn makes a strong structure.

The fuselage was a hard thing to build but i'm happy with the result.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0265.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0264.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0269.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0272.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0275.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0276.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0278.jpg)

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on August 26, 2012, 05:00:57 AM: Overall this is where i am now.

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0022.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0021.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0020.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0018.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0017.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0016.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0015.jpg)

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: lcarroll on August 26, 2012, 05:10:43 AM: Ron,
This is a spectacular Build. I have often been tempted to try a scratch build project, if and when I do I'll be checking back here for sure. Your work is truly "world class"!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: uncletony on August 26, 2012, 07:33:24 AM: Bravo, Ron! Thanks so much for sharing your techniques -- lots of inspiration here. Your craftsmanship is terrific, too. Super.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Des on August 26, 2012, 08:15:51 AM: Exceptional workmanship Ron, everything you have done so far is brilliant, the rigging on the tail section is superb, extremely well done.

Des.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 26, 2012, 08:52:04 AM: :o
No words can express my respect for your talent.
Well done!

BVB
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Whiteknuckles on August 26, 2012, 02:46:00 PM: Superb Ron, she's looking a treat ;)
Excellent craftmanship.

Andrew
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on August 26, 2012, 03:34:24 PM: thanks guys!

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: NP on August 26, 2012, 07:51:21 PM: Spectacular job on this, its going to look great
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Jose Chaica on August 27, 2012, 07:07:24 AM: Awesome... simply, awesome!!! :)
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Yorki1960 on August 28, 2012, 11:58:43 PM: Outstanding work.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: pepperman42 on August 30, 2012, 02:23:00 AM: Outstanding!! You make it look easy!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on September 01, 2012, 09:15:10 PM: Made a bit of progress last couple days been sick for 2 days :(

Here is my set up for degassing silicone rubber for casting resin parts.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni59617.jpg)
The bin is made out of 4mm stainless steel welded by a m8 of mine that makes stuff out of stainless steel so he can make a pretty good weld.
The bin is 300mm dia and 350mm high.
On top of that there is a rubber L gasket to seal of the bin, on top of the rubber there is a Lexan plate of 350x350 and 15mm thick.
For the valves i used 1/4 tread which is connected to the vacuum pump whit a rubber hose.
The pump it self pumps 2cfm which takes about 2 min to fully vacuum the chamber to -1 mbar absolute vacuum.

Here is the silicone i used mixed by ratio of 5% of harder.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni59616.jpg)
Mixed with a steel knife as to not introduce moist from wooden sticks.
As you can c its full of bubbles.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni59612.jpg)
took it in the chamber and pulled vacuum keep watching the process since the rubber will expand.
Keep in mind that the rubber will expand about 3 times so a large enough mixing container is needed i made 150ml so i need a container of 500ml.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni59613.jpg)
Eventually it looks like this, i poured it in the mold starting from one corner.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni59611.jpg)
This is what iam making weighted wheels.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni5967.jpg)
Anny one that needs some wheels send me a PM and i can cast a pare, or more.
Cost i don't know yet since i don't know how much resin i need to cast them yet.

Made the front wheels of spare parts and vacuum pulled the covers for it.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni5966.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0017-1.jpg)
Made a plug for the under side of the fuselage, to later vacuum pull.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0019.jpg)
Made the aileron control pins.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni59610.jpg)
Detailed the tail with struts and tail skid.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni5964.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni5965.jpg)
Made the struts from brass and solder wire of 0.3 so i can glue it on the tail wing.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni5961.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni5962.jpg)
End result.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0015-1.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0018-1.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni5969.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/Caproni5968.jpg)

Ron.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Jose Chaica on September 02, 2012, 07:44:20 AM: ...what can I say?... it´s a true artist!!! :)
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: uncletony on September 02, 2012, 06:44:06 PM: Awesome. Thanks again for sharing,
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 03, 2012, 10:10:27 PM: I've always wondered how resin casters work their magic so thanks very much for posting this. Of course, it whets my interest for more in regards to how they manage to cast something like a hollow tank turret.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on September 07, 2012, 07:29:03 AM: The radiator and wheels are done.
No air bubbles because i have pressure cured the resin in a pressure pot 4 bar (60 PSI0)

I placed a center hole to drill the hole for the Axel so it will fit anny kit landing gear.
The third picture shows my version for the caproni the set contains sollid wheels, sor you can drill the proper hole in the wheels.

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Custom%20Resin%20Parts%20WOI/ResinWheelsWOI6.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Custom%20Resin%20Parts%20WOI/ResinWheelsWOI5.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Custom%20Resin%20Parts%20WOI/ResinWheelsWOI2.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Custom%20Resin%20Parts%20WOI/ResinWheelsWOI7.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Custom%20Resin%20Parts%20WOI/ResinWheelsWOI4.jpg)

The dia of the wheels is 26mm and they are weighted wheels.
Are good for Gotha 1/32.
Caproni ofcours.

Anny interest in the set send me a PM,

The set will contain 4 wheels and 2 radiators.
Price is 9 euro, Shipping not included.

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Checkers67 on September 09, 2012, 04:21:51 AM: The resin casting process seems so simple yet eludes me. Really enjoy your scratch work.

Steve :)
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on October 05, 2012, 09:05:39 AM: Made some slow progress with the struts which are done now.

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0242.jpg)
Here have made a sanding jig with 180 grid sand paper to sand the wood in to shape, 12 times :S
Next drilled 0.8 holes into both sides of the strut to accept 0.8 brass rod.
Then when all the brass Rodd's where glued in place i socked the wood in thin super glue after that sanded it smooth.
Fixed all the struts in a jig to mark the position of the tapes and made them from Gold mirror finish from Hasegawa trytool.
Wrapped it around two times then sealed it with future.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0245.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0246.jpg)
End result:
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0007-1.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0009-1.jpg)
Here are the home made radiators casted in Resin.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0008-1.jpg)

Last couple days been busy with the Engine V4b engine.
Been using the instruction manual from the engine order on the net, also many ref fotos.
Found out that no engine is the same :S but iam quit happy with the results so far.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0006.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0005-2.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0004-2.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0003-2.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0002-1.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/DSC_0001-2.jpg)
Almost done a few more details to be added and iam ready to cast it in Resin.

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: redsoldiergreen on October 05, 2012, 10:06:13 AM: ;D fantastic :o
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: uncletony on October 05, 2012, 10:10:02 AM: Gaaaa. Amazing, Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Whiteknuckles on October 05, 2012, 11:48:32 AM: Great update Ron, some superb work there!!

Andrew
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: pepperman42 on October 05, 2012, 11:09:42 PM: Amazing - great and simple strut jig!! Thanks - another good reason for coming onto this forum.

Steve
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: lcarroll on October 06, 2012, 03:33:28 AM: Ron,
Beautiful work! A question: What is the Hasegawa Trytool you refer to? I struggle with strut bands or tapes, yours are excellent and I have never heard of this tool or product.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Dal Gavan on October 06, 2012, 05:12:58 PM: G'day, Ron.

That's brilliant, mate. More photo's, please!

Dal.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Whiteknuckles on October 23, 2012, 07:51:59 PM: How's it all going Ron?
Hope all is well.

Andrew
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: WarrenD on November 04, 2012, 01:39:27 AM: Beautiful work!

Warren
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on November 27, 2012, 08:57:30 AM: These fotos where took at ESM.

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/esm2012-170.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/esm2012-172.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/esm2012-176.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/esm2012-177.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/dsc02383.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/esm2012-171.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/dsc02381.jpg)

More pics folow.

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: pepperman42 on November 27, 2012, 09:39:09 AM: One word - WOW!!!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Whiteknuckles on November 27, 2012, 09:54:02 AM: Simply outstanding Ron, I understand that you have won two gold medals with this magnificent beastie?

Andrew
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: lcarroll on November 27, 2012, 02:01:18 PM: Quote from: whiteknuckles on November 27, 2012, 09:54:02 AM
Simply outstanding Ron, I understand that you have won two gold medals with this magnificent beastie?

Andrew

Certainly well deserved and more! Magnificent build Ron and congratulations on the recognition.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: rhallinger on November 27, 2012, 02:43:10 PM: Awesome Ron! Great build. I really am a Caproni fan, and you are my hero! Inspiratonal! I may buy a set of those resin wheels. ;D Well done.

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on November 27, 2012, 04:19:00 PM: Thans Guys, the resin wheels are also for the Gotha

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 27, 2012, 04:43:04 PM: A work of beautiful art, Ron.
Thanks for sharing.

BVB
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: GAJouette on November 28, 2012, 08:17:59 AM: Ron,
Congratulations my old friend she a sight to behold . With scratch building skills and Master Class craftsmanship you have it's hard to believe you would ever build from a box. Truly an awesome project my old friend and a joy to have been following.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Dal Gavan on November 30, 2012, 04:08:31 PM: Ron, that's a beautiful model of a very nice aircraft.

Any chance of some more closeups, mate (beg grovel, whine)?

Dal.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on December 09, 2012, 01:08:19 AM: Here is the finished Caproni Ca.3

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T03075.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0307.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0306.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0305.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0309.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T03096.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0316.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0314.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T03137.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0304.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0313.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0297.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0292.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T02862.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0283.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0303.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0298.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T03024.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0302.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0300.jpg)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h322/Ronkootje/Caproni%20Ca3/_Y1T0299.jpg)

Thanks to HP Rustenburg for taking the pictures.

Ron
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: lcarroll on December 09, 2012, 01:56:14 AM: Ron,
I have to add a few more comments:
WOW!!!
An absolute work of art from a real artist. You have set the bar to an unbelievable height with this build; I really like the overall pictures, and the super detail (engine and prop with the gunner's cage over top) is incredibly well done.
Congretulations on a magnificent model and Thank you for sharing this here. A very enjoyable Thread from start to finish.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: pepperman42 on December 09, 2012, 03:40:17 AM: Thanks for the additional walk arounds of this magnificent model. Excellent photography.

Steve
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: rhallinger on December 09, 2012, 04:42:37 AM: WOW!!! As I said before, Ron, you are my hero! ;D

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Des on December 09, 2012, 07:10:21 AM: Congratulations Ron and thank you for sharing all your build techniques and finished photos. This is truely a remarkable model created by a highly talented model maker, you level of workmanship is second to none which clearly shows in the impeccable model on display, extremely well done Ron.

Des.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Chris Johnson on December 09, 2012, 09:48:33 AM: Simply put; a masterpiece both in construction and finishing.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Jose Chaica on December 10, 2012, 10:02:42 AM: :o Amazing... it´s all that comes to my mind... :o
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: GAJouette on December 12, 2012, 04:19:19 AM: Ron,
Congratulation and Well Done my old friend. She's absolute sight to behold and a true museum piece. Your Master Class skills and the highest levels of craftsmanship shine through. It's a joy to have been following this project thread.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

PS: The package I sent with the Tenax bottles finally was returned here after 3 months due customs.Must have circled the world multiple times before returning here. Sorry I wasn't able to help you out on this .
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Epeeman on December 15, 2012, 10:42:05 PM: Ron,

A superb model built by a truly superb model builder.

Fantastic model, mate

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Whiteknuckles on December 16, 2012, 12:23:43 PM: Immaculate Ron, a truly immpressive showcase for your master skills ;)

Andrew
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Flip Hendrickx on December 21, 2012, 08:39:37 AM: Wow! Fantastisch model Ron! Ongelofelijk knap!
Groeten

Flip
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: bobs_buckles on December 22, 2012, 02:56:42 AM: As good as it gets ;)
Well done, Ron! A beautifully crafted work of art.

BVB
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: mike in calif on January 23, 2013, 01:15:49 AM: I just read this Ron, and you've made an incredible model, and the finish is as good as I've ever seen. Thanks for sharing the trip.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Adam on January 24, 2013, 06:36:23 PM: Ron I never saw such beautiful made kit, congratulations!

Adam.
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Von Schlepp on January 25, 2013, 04:27:38 AM: WOW! watching that giant come together was truly inspiring.

-Roger Nilson
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ronkootje on January 25, 2013, 05:26:57 PM: Thanks guys was a great pleasure to build!
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: zeroenna on January 30, 2013, 12:19:51 AM: Master piece!!! I love scratchbuild. 8)
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Von Schlepp on February 15, 2013, 12:19:52 PM: Ron, is it easier to shape and work with a with a wing when its 2 ply like you've done?
I was just reading back through the posts from earlier in the build.

-Roger
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: youngtiger1 on February 23, 2013, 02:56:13 PM: Ron, you are an amazing model builder. I am new here and still exploring this website and just found your thread. I am in an awe...your scratch building skills are truly superb and it is very clean. Thank you for leaving the photos up here even after you're done. Guys like myself can droll over it and learn new tricks from the master :)
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Rookie on January 24, 2020, 05:56:16 AM: Such a shame that so many build logs are ruined by Photobucket....
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: RAGIII on January 25, 2020, 01:31:04 AM: Quote from: wavanberkel on January 24, 2020, 05:56:16 AM
Such a shame that so may build logs are ruined by Photobucket....

Yes it is a Tragedy! It took lots and Time and Effort but I went back and replaced Most f Not All of the Photos in My old threads. I can only hope others will eventually do the same!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: mecanik on February 22, 2022, 10:03:07 PM: A superbly made model! I found something new for myself. And I thought that at 32 scale it would be a little bigger. Good job!
Title: Re: Caproni Ca.3 1/32 Scratch.
Post by: Ranger822 on February 17, 2023, 07:51:10 AM: Truly amazing. I am not brave enough to do total scratch build - but I think I might try to rework the AJP Maquettes. Perhaps taking each sub-group assembly and assessing if/how. This seems to be be most logica path for me barring hitting the lottery and finding another Clay-More Ca.3 someday.