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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: iwik on February 18, 2015, 04:51:42 AM
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Hi guys (and girl!)!
It's been a while since I've posted anything on this forum. Sorry. But since this build had come out in a French magazine I didn't feel it was correct to also post the pics here. But since it's been a while now....here are the pics.
I am not showing them all just yet...patience...
I wanted to thank the forumist who provided the "Bob" decals from another Academy boxing.
Hope you like it!
The original propeller was reshaped and detailed a bit. Painted with oils.
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/1_imagesia-com_ukw3_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/1_ukw3)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/2_imagesia-com_ukw5_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/2_ukw5)
I've also reshaped the struts.
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/3_imagesia-com_ukw2_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/3_ukw2)
The engine is a modified resin Oberusel. Or I tooke Roden Dr1 plastic one, can't remember...
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/4_imagesia-com_ukw6_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/4_ukw6)
A bit of detailing the tail and fuselage...
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/5_imagesia-com_ukw1_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/5_ukw1)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/6_imagesia-com_ukw7_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/6_ukw7)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/7_imagesia-com_ukwn_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/7_ukwn)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/007_imagesia-com_ukwl_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/007_ukwl)
The Lewis gun is actually a resin cast from a roden Lewis which I had detailed with some photoetched.
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/8_imagesia-com_ukwp_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/8_ukwp)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/9_imagesia-com_ukwv_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/9_ukwv)
That's all for now!
Ciao
Iwik
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Beautiful work, Iwik! Looking forward to seeing the rest.
Cheers,
Bud
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I have this kit, hoping, to one day make Billy Bishop's Nieuport. The pictures you provided well be most useful, thanks.
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Excellent work Iwik, looking forward to seeing more photos.
Des.
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Well Iwik , you never disappoint us with your builds so I'm looking forward to seeing the rest posted . Talk about keeping a blonde in suspense . ;)
Terri
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Excellent work!
I think you mean Vickers, not Lewis in re the lovely MG though ;)
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Outstanding! Like the others looking forward to seeing the rest!
RAGIII
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Excellent work!
I think you mean Vickers, not Lewis in re the lovely MG though ;)
Of course! What an idiot...
Thanks for the correction Bo.
Where's my brain?
Oh, there it is. I had left it in the closet to go to work and forgot to put it back in once home...
Ciao
Iwik
DERRICK: I will post pics of my previous Ni17... for you. ;)
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Very nice Iwik, I am very interested in this one. Keep up the great work!
Kind regards
Patrick
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The little Neuports are a favourite. Very nice start, Iwik.
Looking forward to the next updates.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Very nice work Iwik and having an Ni-17 in the stash, I'll certainly follow you build with interest. Another learning experience for me!
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hi!
First, for Derrick!
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/um/9_imagesia-com_umxu_large.jpg) (http://imagesia.com/9_umxu)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/um/33_imagesia-com_umxy_large.jpg) (http://imagesia.com/33_umxy)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/um/51_imagesia-com_umxz_large.jpg) (http://imagesia.com/51_umxz)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/um/57_imagesia-com_umxx_large.jpg) (http://imagesia.com/57_umxx)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/um/69_imagesia-com_umxw_large.jpg) (http://imagesia.com/69_umxw)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/um/73_imagesia-com_umy0_large.jpg) (http://imagesia.com/73_umy0)
The follow up!
Don't forget to enlarge the cockpit sides!
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/13_imagesia-com_ukwm_large.jpg) (http://imagesia.com/13_ukwm)
You have to open up the lower part of the cowling to represent a russian Ni17.
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/10_imagesia-com_ukwt_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/10_ukwt)
The painted mastercaster cockpit. Pretty nice but will cause big fit problems. Scratching the whole thing might be quicker and less nerve racking...
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/11_imagesia-com_ukwh_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/11_ukwh)
The whole thing assembled:
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/12_imagesia-com_ukw9_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/12_ukw9)
Closing up!
You can see that I've reshaped the holes for the aileron control "cables", and modified the emplacements where the main struts are supposed to be resting on the top fuselage. This means extending the legs of those struts.
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/14_imagesia-com_ukwa_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/14_ukwa)
Masking and preshading:
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/16_imagesia-com_ukx3_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/16_ukx3)
First paint job.
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/17_imagesia-com_ukx1_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/17_ukx1)
Decals and first weathering. Notice that the cowling and engine access doors are painted with rub'n buff, giving them a shinny metallic feel that the rest of the kit doesn't have.
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/18_imagesia-com_ukx6_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/18_ukx6)
The Vickers ( ;D) in place. Head rest and cockpit padding made in putty. Note the beginning of the rigging process.
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/19_imagesia-com_ukwx_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/19_ukwx)
Struts detailing, rigging, and aileron hinges in place.
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/20_imagesia-com_ukx4_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/20_ukx4)
Finished photos next time!
Ciao
Iwik
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/19_imagesia-com_ukwx_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/19_ukwx)
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Hello Iwik!!!
Wow!!!! What an introduction!!! your build makes wanna go and spend some money for Academy kit :D Gorgeous!!!
Lukas
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Sorry for asking, but what is the trouble with MasterCaster's cockpit?
Stefan
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Hi!
LUKAS: oh you won't be spending much money on them. You can find them really cheap on ebay. Spend the rest on mastercaster' cowling.
Stefan: if you assemble the whole thing hoping it magically fits the sides of the fusealge and the back of the cockpit, like I did hope it would, well you're in for a big surprise. It will be too narrow by a good 2mm. So I first glued one side to the fuselage, but only the bottom of it. Then, after many tries, glued the other side and then glued some thin stripes of plastic to fill in the gap it made with the back part. For short, when viewed from the front, the fuselage sides do indeed touch the floor, but have to make a "V" shape in order to touch the rims of the fuselage sides on the top. See what I mean? :-\
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iwik - I got two of the Mastercaster N17 cowlings and they, like the cockpit conversion, are both a hair too small for the two Academy fuselages I have. Your Bishop ship cowling looks to be Ok. How's the Russian one? Is it a roll of the dice with them as far as a product being the promised size? Any ideas about altering them to attempt a reasonable fit? Seems I read something somewhere about placing parts in hot water for possible expansion? In any event, extremely nice work. -M
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DOUG: The bishop cowling is the kit's. I just detailed it. As for the Russian one, since I sliced off the lower part, I could cheat by raising it a tad higher than it should have been. Et voilà!
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I love the weathering you did with Bishop's plane. What colours/mix did you use for the silver doping ?
I was thinking of getting the Lone Star resin cockpit for this model, since I had heard of mixed reviews about the Master Caster resin. Although I have not seen any reviews of the Lone Star conversion, I was going with them since I want to order cockpits for the P12 and BF2C that I got from ebay ( a moment of insanity).
I have not started the Nieuport 17 kit but I also read that the wheels were wrong. Did you replace them with alternatives or convert them? I have wondered if trying to scratchbuild the cockpit and other bits would be a better route, although I have not tried my hand at it yet. Still working slowly on a Pfalz IIIa and I was thinking of my first try at scratchbuilding a cockpit with a morane saulnier. I am just getting back into building models so I am slowly buying the tools and stuff I need.
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Hi Derrick!
I did scratchbuild the cockpit for the Bishop version. Just as time consuming as fixing the mastercaster one, much cheaper, and more rewarding. If you want I can post some pics here of the work I had done...
Yes. The wheels are wrong. Ugly I'd even say. I think the ones I used were actually resin copies I did of Roden's N27 kit. Darn. Can't remember...
For the silver dope, I used Tam XF11 aluminium to partially cover the preshading. Alcad paint would require many many many layers to cover it up. Only then did I used Alcad mat alu, and magnesium to enhance a bit some parts of the preshading and break the uniformity of the alu paint. It gives it a nice non shiny metalic finish.
Weathering was achieved first with a coat of brown oil wash, quickly wiped out with a paper towel. Final weathering involved tobacco acrylic ink. Takes time but it gives you a lot of control. I really enjoy working with those.
Hope it helps.
Never heard of a Lone Star Nieuport cockpit...
Ciao
Iwik
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I would like to see those pictures you have of the cockpit please. I have kits of the Nieuport 11 and 16, I wonder if those wheels would work. Here is the link to Lone Star models, the nieuport parts are at the bottom of the page.
http://www.lonestarmodels.com/Conversions-1-32.html
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A very nice pair of nieuports, Iwik
good to see the Russian came good.
cheers
Daryl
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Iwik,
Being a Nieuport fan, I love this build! I noticed the cut-out cowling too, and have a 1/72nd version prepared also. ;) ;) :) A question: I have always seen "Bob" referred to as Nie.17, but the information included in the Eduard Nie.23 kit states that this airframe is in fact a Nie.23, and that previous ID's of it as Nie.17 have been wrong. Now, I sure don't have every Nieuport reference ever published, BUT I wonder from where are they're getting they're information? I've only ever seen it ID'd as a Nie.17, have you ever run into any other reference stating otherwise? '
Just curious and thought I'd ask another Nieuport person.
Thanks!
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Hi!
LUKAS: oh you won't be spending much money on them. You can find them really cheap on ebay. Spend the rest on mastercaster' cowling.
Stefan: if you assemble the whole thing hoping it magically fits the sides of the fusealge and the back of the cockpit, like I did hope it would, well you're in for a big surprise. It will be too narrow by a good 2mm. So I first glued one side to the fuselage, but only the bottom of it. Then, after many tries, glued the other side and then glued some thin stripes of plastic to fill in the gap it made with the back part. For short, when viewed from the front, the fuselage sides do indeed touch the floor, but have to make a "V" shape in order to touch the rims of the fuselage sides on the top. See what I mean? :-\
Hello,
Thanks for heads up ;) luckily I already have experienced the friendly prices of Academy on some of my WW2 planes :) Still, I usually spend lot of money on after market stuff... hups :D
Anyway, I'm more interested in your build at the moment and I especially like you fuselage "rub'n buff" technique... how exactly did you achieve that look???
Cheers and happy modelling
Lukas
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Hi!
WarrenD: Same problem. Since I haven't been to find a definite answer, I chose the easy way and decided it was a Ni17!
Lukas: Just put a bit of Rnb and rub it with your finger on the part. Make sure to correctly mask the area though. I didn't want to tarnish the effect with a varnish so couldn't apply any wash on it except water based ones... Hence the use of acrylic inks...
Ciao
Iwik
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Hi!
WarrenD: Same problem. Since I haven't been to find a definite answer, I chose the easy way and decided it was a Ni17!
Lukas: Just put a bit of Rnb and rub it with your finger on the part. Make sure to correctly mask the area though. I didn't want to tarnish the effect with a varnish so couldn't apply any wash on it except water based ones... Hence the use of acrylic inks...
Ciao
Iwik
That sounds rather easy... I think I'm actually more struggling to what I should imagine under rub'n buff stuff :) Maybe I'm just little bit lost in translation but can you send me link or something like that. Thanks for tip though ;)
Lukas
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Hi!
I will open a new post for the Bishop Ni 17 ...
In the meantime, here are the last pictures for Bob!
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/30_imagesia-com_ukx5_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/30_ukx5)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/24_imagesia-com_ukx2_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/24_ukx2)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/21_imagesia-com_ukwy_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/21_ukwy)(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/33_imagesia-com_ukww_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/33_ukww)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/31_imagesia-com_ukwu_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/31_ukwu)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/32_imagesia-com_ukws_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/32_ukws)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/27_imagesia-com_ukwr_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/27_ukwr)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/26_imagesia-com_ukwo_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/26_ukwo)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/35_imagesia-com_ukwk_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/35_ukwk)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/29_imagesia-com_ukwi_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/29_ukwi)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/22_imagesia-com_ukwg_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/22_ukwg)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/34_imagesia-com_ukwe_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/34_ukwe)
(http://img.imagesia.com/fichiers/uk/28_imagesia-com_ukw8_large.JPG) (http://imagesia.com/28_ukw8)
Hope you'll enjoy the Bishop version as well!
Ciao
Iwik
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Very great work and paint Iwik.
Martin
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So glad you posted these Iwik, great job.
Warren
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Delicious models, congarts iwik
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You're really a Nieuport Master Iwik!!!
WOW
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Hi Iwik,
I totally agree with Andonio. Very very nice. Great work!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hello Iwik!
As usual! You make me slap the cheeks (I don't think that this sentence be known in English, sorry ;D )
Arnaud
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Most impressive Iwik !
Terri