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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Petie2nd on February 09, 2015, 12:20:39 PM
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Has now been added to the list of Sold Out kits.
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They are dropping like flies, that makes number 8, wonder what and when the next one will be.
Des.
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Well, they forced my hand, dammit! Just ordered the D.VII F.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hobby Link Japan has some in stock Better order quick I ordered 2
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I'm telling ya, the April Fools Prophecy is batting 100%
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Well, HLJ is now sold out, but Hannant's still has 6 on hand at $101.66 a pop. Plus shipping.
Cheers,
Bud
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This is getting scary, are they starting to wind down?!? I just this week ordered a Pfalz DIIIa in a fit of panic, thought of a DVIIF and then figured "lots of time"., now I'm not so sure!
Cheers,
Lance
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Yikes - glad I had picked up one of these up in my pre-Christmas panic purchase...
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Well, I guess I will have to think about building some of the Roden, Encore, Hobbycraft, and Special Hobbies kits in the stash :-X
Seriously can the DVIIF be far behind now considering that the Panic buying has already started 8) I made a decision to spend my birthday cash on Aviattic Fabric decals and some parts for the Gloster Meteor. Perhaps I should have gone for the WNW SE :(
RAGIII
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This is getting scary, are they starting to wind down?!?
Seriously? I doubt it very much.
They gave us almost exactly 1 years notice which kits would sell out next... I know what I'm ordering ;)
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Hmmm... I missed that "notice". Can you elaborate? There are a couple of kits I seriously need and my wife hates it when I break down and cry over a box of styrene..
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This is getting scary, are they starting to wind down?!?
Seriously? I doubt it very much.
They gave us almost exactly 1 years notice which kits would sell out next... I know what I'm ordering ;)
Quite possibly a Fokker DVII (Alb) or the Gotha, I'm thinking...
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Ahhhhh! The panic has infected me too. I just pulled the trigger on a WnW Pfalz D.IIIa. I have no intention of building it any time soon, but I really like it and I'm afraid it would be gone by the time I'm ready for it. I'm embarrassed to admit that that was the fourth kit purchased in as many weeks, and I'm a very slow builder.
My stash continues to grow...
(http://imageshack.com/a/img912/7940/miQgmr.jpg)
George
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I don't think the accelerating sell outs of WNW kits in any way suggests they are winding down, it simply reflects that models that have been on the market for some years are selling out now, as we would expect them to do. The Fokker D.VII (OAW) has been available since November 2012 as was the D.VII (Fok). The kits have obviously sold well but we don't know the production run as this is a State secret to WnW.
While some have ventured some near- criticisism of those who assemble model kit stashes, the reality is those of us who bought the Fokker D.VIIs when they were released, or Albatros D.V, Sopwith Triplane, Hansa W.29 or RE.8 or LVG etc etc, can take some comfort in knowing the kits are there waiting for us and we won't be held to ransom by "collector" prices when we get round to making them.
To me, stash hoarders are modellers who actively make models but also squirrel other kits away in case they become impossible to get. I am a builder and genuinely intend to build everything in the stash.
Kit collectors generally seem to assemble huge collections per se but don't seem to actually make a model. Just one person's view.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Auistralia
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Hmmm... I missed that "notice". Can you elaborate? There are a couple of kits I seriously need and my wife hates it when I break down and cry over a box of styrene..
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2432.255
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This is getting scary, are they starting to wind down?!?
Seriously? I doubt it very much.
They gave us almost exactly 1 years notice which kits would sell out next... I know what I'm ordering ;)
Quite possibly a Fokker DVII (Alb) or the Gotha, I'm thinking...
Quite possibly indeed ... in fact done ;)
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Hello,
like Des said,they are going down like flies :D luckily my money for my birthday present just arrived and I just ordered Gotha and Rumpler as they were on my wish list for some time... I'm more driven by what I want rather than what will sell out next :D
I'm more interested what will 1st April will be like this year :D
Lukas
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This is getting scary, are they starting to wind down?!?
Seriously? I doubt it very much.
They gave us almost exactly 1 years notice which kits would sell out next... I know what I'm ordering ;)
Quite possibly a Fokker DVII (Alb) or the Gotha, I'm thinking...
Quite possibly indeed ... in fact done ;)
Earlier this evening I ordered the OAW and Albatros Fokker D. VII's and the next thing I know the OAW is gone. I swear I think I must have literally gotten the last OAW Fokker.
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So, from this list,
32005 1/32 Gotha G.IV US$149
32008 1/32 Sopwith Triplane US$69
32009 1/32 Albatros D.V US$69
32011 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Fok) US$79
32015 1/32 Albatros D.Va US$69
32027 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Alb) US$79
32030 1/32 Fokker D.VII (OAW) US$79
it appears the Gotha and Albatros D.Va are next to be sold out.
Having a Gotha, I just ordered a D.Va. That's one less in the dwindling Wingnut Wings inventory
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So, from this list,
32005 1/32 Gotha G.IV US$149
32008 1/32 Sopwith Triplane US$69
32009 1/32 Albatros D.V US$69
32011 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Fok) US$79
32015 1/32 Albatros D.Va US$69
32027 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Alb) US$79
32030 1/32 Fokker D.VII (OAW) US$79
it appears the Gotha and Albatros D.Va are next to be sold out.
Or maybe the Fokker D.VII(Alb)...
:)
Who knows.
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So, from this list,
32005 1/32 Gotha G.IV US$149
32008 1/32 Sopwith Triplane US$69
32009 1/32 Albatros D.V US$69
32011 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Fok) US$79
32015 1/32 Albatros D.Va US$69
32027 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Alb) US$79
32030 1/32 Fokker D.VII (OAW) US$79
it appears the Gotha and Albatros D.Va are next to be sold out.
Or maybe the Fokker D.VII(Alb)...
:)
Who knows.
True, but I've built the Fok version and have the F, but I really like the Albatros. That was my first plastic scale model. Built one Wingnut Wings kit and need one more.
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It's kind of like a snow ball effect, Wingnuts sell out of a kit so we panic buy the one/ones we really want, then one of those sell out, and so on.
I bet even the guy who cleans the toilets at WNW headquarters lights his cigar with $20 bills :o
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It's kind of like a snow ball effect, Wingnuts sell out of a kit so we panic buy the one/ones we really want, then one of those sell out, and so on.
I bet even the guy who cleans the toilets at WNW headquarters lights his cigar with $20 bills :o
;D ;D ;D
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It's kind of like a snow ball effect, Wingnuts sell out of a kit so we panic buy the one/ones we really want, then one of those sell out, and so on.
I bet even the guy who cleans the toilets at WNW headquarters lights his cigar with $20 bills :o
Yes, a snowball effect indeed. Ultimately we may see the last Duellist Felixstowe/W.29 set sold out and WNW will truly be wound up! :D
Dear me, guys, and gals, stop fretting and go back to model building! ;)
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Surely they will all reappear with the special editions? ;)
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All the sold out kits will re-appear one day under a new box, new decals, new colour schemes, maybe as a duellist set or a special edition kit, Wingnuts are far to smart to just let these kits disappear forever, there is still oodles of money to be made from these "sold out" kits.
Des.
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I noticed the Pfalz D.IIIa has disappeared from the front
page, replaced by the D.XII...I wonder if the D.IIIa is
next to fall?
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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What's a little sad is that to some degree, WNW kits are being bought by speculators, as an "investment".
We all have ridiculous stash's, but we all plan to build them one day, but I'm convinced there are a lot just sat there, waiting for EBay.
I would like WNW to sell a mythical "special edition", or at least publicly give a time-frame for their release. This will dampen down the daft used market.
However, I'm not sure this is in their interests.....
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I noticed the Pfalz D.IIIa has disappeared from the front
page, replaced by the D.XII...I wonder if the D.IIIa is
next to fall?
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Well spotted Ernie, it's hard to know, we're all guessing and fretting and buying. It's a bit like the speculative Dutch Tulip Madness. :)
insert beautiful image here of rare Tulip Bulb Pfalz D.XII
I reckon get them while the getting is good before they all get plucked.
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/220px-Tulipomania_zps3d2fecb9.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/220px-Tulipomania_zps3d2fecb9.jpg.html)
It's a GMC, Global Modelling Crisis ::)
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It's kind of like a snow ball effect, Wingnuts sell out of a kit so we panic buy the one/ones we really want, then one of those sell out, and so on.
I bet even the guy who cleans the toilets at WNW headquarters lights his cigar with $20 bills :o
The mental image I get when reading this truly does make me LOL! ;D
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I noticed the Pfalz D.IIIa has disappeared from the front
page, replaced by the D.XII...I wonder if the D.IIIa is
next to fall?
Cheers,
Ernie :)
That's where my logic was at a few days back when I ordered one, Ernie! I still have this horrible memory of dragging my feet over the "Harry Tate", and then suddenly there it was,............gone!
Cheers,
Lance
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My logic too. I ordered both pfalzs, DVa and roland dvia, just to be sure....
I have no doubt there is a little flurry of panic buying and stash speculation going on right now, so I suspect stocks of the older single seaters are dwindling.
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So, from this list,
32005 1/32 Gotha G.IV US$149
32008 1/32 Sopwith Triplane US$69
32009 1/32 Albatros D.V US$69
32011 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Fok) US$79
32015 1/32 Albatros D.Va US$69
32027 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Alb) US$79
32030 1/32 Fokker D.VII (OAW) US$79
Missing from the list of sold out kits is the L.V.G. and HB W.29.
Brian Riedel
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So, from this list,
32005 1/32 Gotha G.IV US$149
32008 1/32 Sopwith Triplane US$69
32009 1/32 Albatros D.V US$69
32011 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Fok) US$79
32015 1/32 Albatros D.Va US$69
32027 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Alb) US$79
32030 1/32 Fokker D.VII (OAW) US$79
Missing from the list of sold out kits is the L.V.G. and HB W.29.
Brian Riedel
Cuz those had already sold out ;)
However the Re8 and the 1st duelist set didn't appear in the April Fools Prophecy.... so nothing's perfect... but still -- everyone was surprised to see the Sop Tripe and the first D.VII go and here they are, and now two more very popular kits, also on this list...
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FWIW, I predict the Fokker D.VII (Alb) will be the next to go and here's my thinking - the D.VII(Fok) was the first of the three D.VIIs released in November 2012 to sell out which sparked panic buying of the others. Now the OAW version is gone, setting off another round of buying which will rapidly deplete the remaining stock of (Alb) kits. Since the D.VII F came out later it will probably be around a while longer.
Eric
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I broke down and bought the Albatros DVa (OAW), came to $89 Canadian :'( . I already have the DV and I have a set of decals that I bought for Werner Voss, that had markings for an OAW that I like. The only sold out kit I regret not picking up is the RE 8. I would have liked to have gotten the W29 but that duel set is well beyond my pay scale and I would have no place to put that Felix.
I would like to get the Gotha but think it may be too big. The AEG, I am thinking of saving up for, but it would probably be the limit as far as size goes.
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My gut feeling is that the single seaters would sell faster than the Gotha....they were half the price, and far more buildable than the Gotha. The Gotha is a big project. Do you think that would deter some people initially from buying it? I would think most people believe they could tackle the Fokkers before they would tackle the Gotha? Unless WNW produced less of the Gotha? I guess i'm saying it would seem less likely to sell out of the Gotha, either way I'm building one and I ordered another.....
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My gut feeling is that the single seaters would sell faster than the Gotha....they were half the price, and far more buildable than the Gotha. The Gotha is a big project. Do you think that would deter some people initially from buying it? I would think most people believe they could tackle the Fokkers before they would tackle the Gotha? Unless WNW produced less of the Gotha? I guess i'm saying it would seem less likely to sell out of the Gotha, either way I'm building one and I ordered another.....
I guess they pressed fewer Gothas... so that may well be the next one to sell out. Just a feeling mind you.
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I plunked for another Gotha on the hunch that when it comes back it will be A LOT more expensive.
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I've been sitting on the fence for quite some time concerning the Gotha, but I have succumbed to the speculation of it's near sold-out status and so I just purchased one. Not really sure if I have the room and I have the 1/48 scale kit but it's hard to pass up on the craftsmanship of the WNW kits ... plus those MoRoTAS markings are ones that I would hate to miss out on. Oh well, have to start saving up for the AEG again.
Dwayne
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Don't drink and buy, Justin 8)
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WNW....Wine Nut Wins?
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On returning home after being away for a couple of weeks I decided to order one of the recent WnW kits plus an older one - the D.VII (OAW) & I got as far as putting both in the online 'basket'. Then I thought I'd wait until the AEG came out & order everything together - not the best move! :o
As it happens there was a kit for sale on eBay at a buy now price the same as Hannants were asking (Hannants were out of stock by this time) so a D.VII (OAW) will be arriving at a 'normal' price.
Regards
Russell
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I am concerned that a "culture" seems to be evolving that the moment a Wingnuts kit is officially marked as sold out, examples are suddenly being offered for sale at ridiculous prices. Of course nobody has to buy them but you hear many wails of " I was gonna buy that one!", but they waited three to five years and just missed out.....
What worries me with the trend of OOP kits immediately being offered for stupid prices is that it must motivate some to buy kits with the sole objective of scoring a mega profit when they sell out.
As we have seen with the Hansa Brandenburg W.29, even the rarest of the OOP kits can unexpectedly return and it's fair to surmise all of WNW's eight sold out kits will be back in another boxing of some sort.
In the meantime if there's a Wingnuts kit that you fancy, and you can afford it, the best strategy is buy it now and avoid the scalpers later.
Dave Wilson'
Gold Coast
Australia
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Talk about being cursed!! I ordered th WNW Albatros DV and the Fokker DVII OWA 11-28-14 They are supposedly stuck in customs since 12-2-14 but USPS and NZ post can't find the package. I filed a claim with Paypal and my money was returned yesterday I got lucky and found 2 DVII's so hopefully I'll be able to trade one for a DV
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Sure, there will be genuine cases, but I wonder how much most people who 'miss out' really wanted a kit if they haven't bought it over the two/three/four years it is available. Sometimes I think they only want it because it is sold out.
In my case, when most of these kits were released, I had little or no interest in any of them other than those aircraft that were not available in 1/48 scale. The only thing WNW was good for, as far as I was concerned, was an excellent reference source for my 1/48 scale builds. Later, I thought it might be interesting and fun to build a WNW kit in conjunction with a 1/48 scale kit. It wasn't until I actually built one, the Sopwith Tripe, that I became hooked. A year ago, I would have had no desire what so ever to buy another Fokker D.VII. I was not really fond of the type, yet somehow managed to accumulate 8 different D.VII kits in 1/48 scale. Now on my 4th D.VII build, I've come to appreciate it's lines and vast array of schemes. When the D.VII Fokker built sold out, I thought, "Damn. I think I might've enjoyed building that one." Now with the OAW gone, I thought I'd better get one and avoid the disappointment I experienced with the RE8. I now have over 280 1/48 scale WWI kits and 17 WNW kits in my stash. Although I turn 66 tomorrow, I plan on building all of them. ;)
Cheers,
Bud
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I think Wingnut Wings has contributed to changing my focus in modeling, and I don't mean just WWI models. I've always been partial to them and increasingly interested in learning how to better detail them, not just build, paint, decal, weather and plop on a display shelf. I began to get serious with this approach building Eduard 1:48 kits. I even was fortunate enough to win an IPMS Regional with a Dr.1 in Weiss livery. Now, with Wingnut Wings kits being so detailed, and in 1:32 scale, and with the knowledge and examples I've had through this forum and Des' website, I have become more interested in the build process, taking it slower and slower, learning to enjoy planning and building, and sometimes improving, the subassemblies as little models in their own right to be done carefully and as well as my skill allows.
I no longer look at a complex model with desire to have built it, and some dread of doing so because of the complexity and the time involved before it might sit finished on my workbench. I am actually looking forward, for example, to better detailing my next Mercedes engine, getting the wiring and rigging done right on my Felixstowe and Gotha, regardless of how long it takes. My modeling thinking has changed.
In that regard, I now lean toward the more "funky" and earlier models like the Eindeckers, DH-2s, and major builds like the Gotha and Felixstowe. I'm even pining for a Wingnut Wings Taube. My biggest regret so far is missing out on the RE8. But, like others, i think we'll be seeing these sold-out models reappearing in different guises in the future.
This is all good. Once I have my modest non-WWI stash culled of all but three or four exceptions, I will have primarily Wingnut Wings kits to focus on and some practice on adding even more interesting detail. It's a great time for an old modeler and I'm going to enjoy it.
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Hello,
It is hard to say what was initial drive for me to buy first WNW(Sep 2013) but when I did I had little idea what was going on and what these kits were all about. I just accepted the fact that Hansa and LVG are not available through WNW page and didn't even know that they are being offered at ridiculous prices on Ebay. It was just lucky coincident that I bought RE8 from second hand shortly before It was sold out and LVG from second hand from the guy who just didn't want to build it - both for retail price - perfect!!!
to Eindecker - I 100% agree with you on detailing engine, wiring and rigging... yesterday I ordered 5 spare engines from WNW with intention just displaying an engine and so on...I dont think It would happened without discovering this forum though... Bo, Bertl and Des' tricks, tips, hints and scratch builds are so inspiring that I cannot wait to have a go at those techniques myself!!! Well, attempts at least :D And don't get me start on Taube, although that's the one I discovered thanks to Des' schratch!!! :)
Unfortunately I so far only had a chance to build one WNW but when I get the place I will have a great kits that I'll enjoy to build. And for those who are panicking about wnw selling out - as time goes on I actually find it funny, every company sells out some boxes time to time, there is a lot of models(not just wnw) being sold on Ebay for ridiculous prices(far from wnw quality) and few of them even still in production.
End of the day, it is your money so spend it for what you think it's best for you ;)
Happy modelling
Lukas
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[ I now have over 280 1/48 scale WWI kits and 17 WNW kits in my stash. Although I turn 66 tomorrow, I plan on building all of them. ;)
Cheers,
Bud
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Very happy birthday to you Mr CM. :)
Trust tomorrow brings you even more to build!.. and happy modelling.
cheers and regards :)
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I now have over 280 1/48 scale WWI kits and 17 WNW kits in my stash. Although I turn 66 tomorrow, I plan on building all of them. ;)
Cheers,
Bud
Very happy birthday to you Mr CM. :)
Trust tomorrow brings you even more to build!.. and happy modelling.
cheers and regards :)
Thanks, Boggie!
Cheers,
Bud
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Noticed that the Rumpler C.IV (Early) is now up on the front page. Could this be one of the enxt to seel out?
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Or maybe it sells poorly so they fluster us into buying by putting it there........?
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Or maybe it sells poorly so they fluster us into buying by putting it there........?
You know, I never thought of that. You may be totally right. Seeing these kits on the front page, we assume that they may be close to sellingout. Maybe some did, utg like you said if a kit was selling poorly so to speak, maybe they put it up there for that very reason.
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Good marketing strategy
Des.
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As we have seen with the Hansa Brandenburg W.29, even the rarest of the OOP kits can unexpectedly return and it's fair to surmise all of WNW's eight sold out kits will be back in another boxing of some sort.
What's funny to me anyway is since the duelist combo came out with the Felix and W.29 there hasn't been a W.29 offered on eBay. There have been a couple of the duelist kits without the W.29 offered.
I wonder how the last buyer felt when he paid more for just the W.29 then he would have paid for the duelist combo.Of course, I sometimes wonder if the buyers on eBay don't know they can purchase directly from WNW because I see them buy current kits for more than they are sold and pay shipping.
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.... I sometimes wonder if the buyers on eBay don't know they can purchase directly from WNW because I see them buy current kits for more than they are sold and pay shipping.
Speaking of that, here's an interesting auction nearing the final hours. 6 WNW kits, 5 of which are still available. Someone(s) must really want that Albatros or else just didn't do the math. :)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321671798703
Eric
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Eric, I don't think their math is off by all that much. Pfalz, Pup, SE.5a, and Roland all at $69.00 and the F.2b at $99.00 is $375.00. Figure another $100-$150 for the OOP Albi and you are right where the price is now. It'll probably rise some more before close, but, maybe not too much.
Matt
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Eric, I don't think their math is off by all that much. Pfalz, Pup, SE.5a, and Roland all at $69.00 and the F.2b at $99.00 is $375.00. Figure another $100-$150 for the OOP Albi and you are right where the price is now. It'll probably rise some more before close, but, maybe not too much.
Matt
Hence my first comment that someone must really want the Albatros. :)
Interestingly, checking recent ended WNW Albatros D.V auctions, you'll find one that sold in mid-February for $120.00, with free shipping, and got only 1 bid. The next day, one went for $170 plus $10.95 shipping and had 9 bids. Go figure! Ebay is a fickle thing. :)
Cheers,
Eric