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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: eindecker on January 05, 2015, 05:55:42 AM
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After reading a few posts on the "detachable" wings, studying the instruction booklet and reading Brett Green's in-box review, I remain puzzled by how the outer wings, along with all of the rigging attached to them and to other parts (fuselage or hull, wing center section, etc.), can be detached for storage or transport. It appears that certain wires must be made to be detachable as well and the interbay rigging material must be able to provide support and structure to the outer wings segments if they are removed.
I am reluctant to try this. I can see serious breakage while removing or installing those wing sections.
Or, am I missing something?
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How about a query to Wingnut Wings? I've done that a few times in the past and got prompt and very informative replies. Although I'm not considering this kit I'd love to know the answer to your question(s).
Cheers,
Lance
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Gentlemen, the drawings are clear - there is no way to have the outer wings detachable without interfering with structural rigging in the bays outer to the engines.
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I have the kit and if I ever get around to building it there is no way I would interfer with the structural integrity of the wing by having it removeable.
Des.
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From what I can make out, the only way this model's wing's can be made detachable is if the top control wires and bow to wing drag lines are omitted. If the model is rigged with easy line there could be the possibility of having some sort of discrete hook attachment/detachment system for these wires, but I would be a bit concerned about the rather large sections of wing sustaining damage ( read collapsing ) if this operation was done too often.
I think at the end of the day, most of us modellers would be loath to leave off detail just so a model can be disassembled for storage/transportation, like you Des, I don't even know when/if my Felixstowes will ever get built but what a release from Wingnuts, I had to have them and one day I would love to build one, but there are a few kits ahead in the que first
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When I built the Junkers, I did leave the outer top wing sections unglued. They fit precisely, so it was easy to remove and install them which I did for transport to shows and when I sold and shipped the completed model. However, given the fact that the Felixstowe has two wings joined by struts and rigging, and the fact that I can fall too easily into "dire clownage" over what should be precise and delicate operations, I'm leaving the wings alone.
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Hello there,
I'm probably with most of you guys, I can't see it working... I will definitely be building it(when that time comes) with wings fully glued to its base... with my clumsiness even that will be delicate construction :D
Cheerio
Lukas
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Honestly that was really never a legit option in my mind. I wouldn't bother with that nonsense. I'ts a static model, not a toy. If your getting into something that large you know what your getting into from the start. I wouldn't even give that a second thought. I'm gonna build it and once it's done...it's done. No fooling around. I hate touching models when they are finished.
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The instructions seem to show the "detachable" stage before the rigging stage. In my book, once it is done and rigged, that's it. I put all models on bases now to assist in handling, but that is it.
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How about a query to Wingnut Wings? I've done that a few times in the past and got prompt and very informative replies. Although I'm not considering this kit I'd love to know the answer to your question(s).
Cheers,
Lance
Good idea Lance. They've promoted this feature so it would be interesting to hear their explanation.
Cheers,
Chris
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mine was dispatched on 16 dec it arrived today. Yay for the Dutch Customs?
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I plan on building mine with removable wings. Doesn't seem that hard to me. Either clip and re-rig the few wires (not hard) or come up with some kind of hook solution with EZ or Modelkasten or... Lots of ideas floating around.
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Do we assume the whole idea behind having the wings detachable is to take it to shows? The word storage keeps coming up and I have to ask, if one planes to store this behemoth, why bother to build it? I understand that life has its variances but this seems a tad extreme.
Michael
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Generally speaking I have no interest in displaying my models as in on a shelf... to me things left out like that just become eye clutter.
In the case of the felixstowe tho I plan on making an exception; I'll hang mine from the rafters of our cabin 400 mi up north. It makes sense with the decor ;) Having it come apart will be very handy for transport there in my Fiat 500 :)
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I no longer compete nor take models to shows. Some models I've built in the past are in a display case, but not very many. I have severly cut down my stash, especially of smaller, easily built models, and have concentrated on those that offer a significant amount of detail and are of historical interest to me. At this point, I consider adequate display space a priority along with my limited choice of models. I really would like to show off a model, like the Felixstowe and my other Wingnut Wings builds, in my home, so I will have to budget for additional protected display areas.
Although I'm sure the Felixstowe can be built so that the wings can be removed, I don't plan to do so. Once I finally get it done and on display, it's going to stay there.
I recall a modeler bringing in a fully rigged HMS Victory in a large scale to one of the IPMS Nationals I attended. Two men carried it, in its display case, into the competition room and placed it on the table. I'd think the same would have to happen with a built Felixstowe. I wouldn't want to be jiggering the rigged wings in and out of that model.
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With the size of some of the 1/32 kits coming out, the 1/32 tables are going to have to get a bit bigger. OK, maybe a lot bigger.
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My display cabinet has shelves of 73 by 45 cms dimension. No way to fit the Felixstowe there. And it is almost full.
However, I have "discovered" an unused space just over my modelling desk. I plan to order a wooden shelf of 87 by 58 cms to be fixed to two walls (a corner) on three metal cantilever supports.
I may dare to take my Felix to modelling contests, provided I complete it to a standard satisfying me. So to make a transport possible I will order also a wooden base of the same dimension as the shelf itself. This base is going to have a 1cm wide wooden rim. Inside this rim a transparent plexi cover in the form of a box without a base will fit - outer dimensions 85 by 56 by 22. This one I am going to order, too. With the 4mm thick walls and roof this will leave the interior space of 84.2 by 55.2 by 21.6 cms, just enough to fit the late Felixstowe. Thus, no dust danger! I should have these items ready this month and will gladly show a photo or two, when it is assembled. It should also provide me with a nice space to store the subassemblies safely during the long build.
As zavod, I have never taken the option of removable wings seriously. I like my models displayed, in their full glory (or misery). And to spend a couple of months on such a great kit to store it out of sight or to have the wings removed, is not acceptable for me. Taking it to a modelling show in a car should not be a problem with the box I have planned, luckily I have a car bigger than Fiat 500 ;)
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269 $, i'll never take risks to detach the wings nor to carry it ;)
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Hmm,............................ maybe I should get a Fiat 500 - and convert these to a rolling case for my Felixstowe, Gotha and all the following bigger wingnuts ::)
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Mine will probably end up as a gift. I've given a couple away already & people seem to like them. They are great conversation pieces & look cool, especially the German single seaters. The Felixstowe is the first British subject to offer an equally commanding & interesting paint job.
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Bertl, you would be battling to get just one Wingnuts Felixstowe into a Fiat 500 let alone the Gotha and any other large Wingnut kits :) :)
Des.
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I might put the Felix in the Fiat 500 and then tow the Fiat to the shows behind my truck.....
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A familiar sight?.....
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haters gonna hate...
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Granted it is a Nissan Mini truck so it's not a big F-150 or anything.....I love the Fiat 500, I used to drive 50 miles one way to work, that would have been a legit option for me. Now I take the train....