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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Pete Nottingham on December 18, 2014, 04:13:44 AM

Title: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on December 18, 2014, 04:13:44 AM
The Brandenburg kit finally arrived today, it is up to the usual impeccable WnW standard, I was mildly surprised at the size of the aircraft, it is larger than I thought, I haven't decided which one to build yet but as this is my first build in many months I will be building it OOB, just to get back in to the swing of things.

I will update as I go along.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Epeeman on December 18, 2014, 04:31:26 AM
Good luck, Pete -

Look forward to seeing and following your build progress reports in due course, mate.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: kornbeef on December 18, 2014, 04:37:17 AM
Pete I got mine yesterdy eventually. my advice is to start with the float lozenge, it's fiddly and if it doesnt work then you know the options, if it does you can alway paint over for that *original* effect.

Looking forwards to your progress too. Get building ;)

Keith
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: uncletony on December 18, 2014, 04:55:25 AM
Looking forward to seeing you rip into this on Pete!

cheers,
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on December 18, 2014, 05:04:12 AM
Thanks guys.

Thanks for the advice Keith.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: coyotemagic on December 18, 2014, 05:08:15 AM
Looking forward to this one, Pete!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on December 18, 2014, 06:06:28 AM
Thanks Bud, I'll try my best.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Fokker boy on December 18, 2014, 06:14:35 AM
Ooh, interesting. I'll be eyeballing this one, that's for sure. Good luck with it.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: gcn on December 18, 2014, 06:22:49 AM
Pete did you click the wrong button it ain't an Albie.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Des on December 18, 2014, 06:25:31 AM
My kit has been sitting in my stash ever since it arrived so I will be following your build with great interest.

Des.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on December 19, 2014, 01:06:36 AM
Pete did you click the wrong button it ain't an Albie.

Must have done mate, wondered why they had put them thar floats on an Albie.

Keith,
Don't eyeball it too close it's only gonna be OOB, just to get back in to the swing of things after the lay off.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: IFF1418 on December 19, 2014, 01:35:26 AM
Hi Pete,

Good luck with the build! I am sure it will be lovely.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on December 19, 2014, 02:08:14 AM
Thanks Patrick

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: jknaus on December 19, 2014, 05:18:32 AM
Will watch with interest.
JAmes
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on December 23, 2014, 06:49:30 PM
Morning all,

This is the scheme I've decided on.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/brodiedog/Hansa-Brandenburg/H-B_zps6f6703ed.jpg)

With Christmas just about upon us I think I will put off starting until next week.

So have a great Christmas and a Happy Modelling New Year.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: KitRookie37 on December 24, 2014, 05:48:11 PM
Hello to all,
Good choice, you have the same scheme for W29 one. There were both in the same squadron. For this moment, my project is to do both in this scheme.
Badly, I not receive yet my W12...Please Santa Claus... ;D
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Gisbod on December 24, 2014, 05:55:24 PM
Will be following - I'll race you to finish! :)

Guy
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on December 24, 2014, 10:47:57 PM
Will be following - I'll race you to finish! :)

Guy

Sorry Guy, no race, I take my time, when it's finished, it's finished.
But good luck with your build.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: jknaus on December 25, 2014, 02:42:01 AM
Will watch with interest. Watch for the float decals, they were my undoing.
James
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on December 25, 2014, 04:11:17 AM
Will watch with interest. Watch for the float decals, they were my undoing.
James

Thanks for the warning James, but after doing 'Fritz Rumeys Devil' it looks as though with a bit of care they should go on ok.

http://www.pheondecals.com/-32010l-rumeys-devil.html (http://www.pheondecals.com/-32010l-rumeys-devil.html)

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: lcarroll on December 25, 2014, 05:13:34 AM
Nice to see you back and busy, Pete. I just got this Kit from James here in my hometown, I'll be following you closely and shamelessly on your build.   ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on December 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM
Thanks Lance, but don't follow too closely.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on December 29, 2014, 10:36:49 PM
Ok guys I've made a start, as usual I've started with the engine, I've also made a start on the floats as well, the other builders have said that there may be issues with them so I thought I would get them out of the way then decide whether I have to change schemes or not.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 13, 2015, 01:58:02 AM
Hi guys;

Sorry for the lack of updates, but I've had a few hectic weeks, first mother-in-law died, then my wife had to go in to hospital for a small procedure on her back and this week we have had mother-in-laws funeral, hopefully it is all behind me now and I can get back to modelling.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: coyotemagic on February 13, 2015, 02:33:28 AM
Sorry to read of your mother-in-law's passing, Pete.  Please pass my condolences on to your wife.
With deepest sympathy,
Bud
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: jknaus on February 13, 2015, 02:44:59 AM
Very sorry for your loss. Hope your wife is doing well though. All the best.
James
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 13, 2015, 02:51:18 AM
Thanks guys;

My wife is doing fine, the death of my mother-in-law was a bit of a blessed relief as she had been suffering from dementia for years she was 93 and she didn't know what day of the week it was, she didn't remember a thing or recognise anybody or anything.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: BigBlue on February 13, 2015, 03:16:43 AM
Sorry to hear of your Mother In Law's passing.  I hope you all are able to find some peace.

Chris
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Epeeman on February 13, 2015, 03:22:25 AM
Sorry for all family issues, Pete -

Hope you new build is going as it should and look forward to your future updates.

Best regards

Dave

Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: uncletony on February 13, 2015, 03:39:55 AM
Hope things are looking up, Pete.

We have a Seaplane group build going on; your started kit is eligible!
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 13, 2015, 03:46:45 AM
Thanks guys;

I don't think I'm up to a group build at the moment Bo, but thanks for suggesting it.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: RAGIII on February 13, 2015, 03:56:04 AM
Sorry for your Loss and Glad to hear your Wife is on the Mend! It is good to see you back in action.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Nigel Jackson on February 13, 2015, 04:28:45 AM
My condolences to you both at this difficult time, Pete, and I wish your wife a speedy recovery.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: kornbeef on February 13, 2015, 04:42:47 AM
Pete.

You have my best wishes in these difficult times.

On the group build I'm sure Des will add you later should you change your mind.

Keith
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: lcarroll on February 13, 2015, 04:44:56 AM
   Very sorry to hear of your family misfortunes Pete. just try to take one step at a time and also give your Wife all support possible. Hope all works out well.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 14, 2015, 02:47:31 AM
Many thanks for the good wishes, you are a great bunch of guys and I really appreciate it.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: IFF1418 on February 16, 2015, 05:06:25 PM
Hello Pete,

Many condolences to your wife, yourself and the family. These are sad moments in people's life. I wish you both all the best. And all the best of luck with the build too Pete!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 06, 2016, 10:32:35 PM
Hi guys;

Well the 'ol mojo' seems to be returning, so I thought I would carry on with the Hansa, so this is why it is re-appearing.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: RAGIII on February 07, 2016, 12:20:38 AM
Great News Pete! I am looking forward to the continuation of your build!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Des on February 07, 2016, 06:31:04 AM
Wonderful news to hear that you will be returning to your build Pete, the loss of a family member takes a long time to get over, I hope your wife is coping well. Looking forward to seeing the updates on this build.

Des.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 07, 2016, 09:03:48 AM
Thanks guys, yes Des my wife is coping very well.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: GAJouette on February 07, 2016, 02:02:16 PM
 Pete,
My condolences to your family my old friend. Rest assured your Mojo is back.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 07, 2016, 09:26:41 PM
Thanks Gregory;

Well a great start, I decided to carry on with the floats, the first one was sprayed up and I was very pleased with the result, I sprayed up the second one, a total disaster, I will have to strip it down.

So, the question to you guys is WHAT is the best way to strip acrylic paint?

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: lcarroll on February 07, 2016, 11:09:03 PM
  Pete,
    Drop the part into some Glass Cleaner with an ammonia content (In North America we call it "Windex") for half an hour or so, then an old tooth brush does the trick beautifully with no ill effect on the plastic part. Works like a charm!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 07, 2016, 11:25:55 PM
Thanks Lance, what you know as Windex, in the UK I think we know it as Windolene and I just happen to have a bottle of that, I'll give it a try.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: lcarroll on February 07, 2016, 11:55:05 PM
Pete,
    Doesn't take a lot, I just drop the part into a few mm's of the stuff in a saucer and roll it around every few minutes, make sure it's soaked and after brushing let it soak again until the paint's all off.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 08, 2016, 07:46:48 PM
Hi Lance, I think they must have changed the formula in Windolene, I left the piece overnight but it hasn't shifted anything, admittedly the piece I'm trying is an old painted part which has cured for over 12 months so the paint is really tough, so it looks as though I might have to resort to the old blowtorch  ::)

cheers

 Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: boggie on February 08, 2016, 08:02:27 PM
Hi Pete.
I use an oven cleaner called Mr mustle here in Oz.
It's caustic so I guess that's why it works. I've used it to strip paint, both enamel and acrylic, that's years old.
After it's soaked for a few hours I scrub with a tooth brush. Although caustic it does not harm the plastic.
Non caustic oven cleaners do not work of course.
Good luck.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 08, 2016, 08:33:06 PM
Hi Pete.
I use an oven cleaner called Mr mustle here in Oz.
It's caustic so I guess that's why it works. I've used it to strip paint, both enamel and acrylic, that's years old.
After it's soaked for a few hours I scrub with a tooth brush. Although caustic it does not harm the plastic.
Non caustic oven cleaners do not work of course.
Good luck.

Thanks boggie, we have Mr Muscle in the UK as well, so I'll give it a try.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: RAGIII on February 09, 2016, 01:42:53 AM
Brake fluid also works well.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: moustique on February 09, 2016, 01:50:16 AM
in france it's call GLANZER and it goes very well for all paints
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Isitwindyyet on February 11, 2016, 06:45:51 AM
Brake fluid also works well.
RAGIII

I think brake fluid works best.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 12, 2016, 02:24:52 AM
Brake fluid also works well.
RAGIII

I think brake fluid works best.

What about synthetic brake fluid, does this work as well?

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Isitwindyyet on February 14, 2016, 12:09:28 AM
Brake fluid also works well.
RAGIII

I think brake fluid works best.

What about synthetic brake fluid, does this work as well?

Pete.

Synthetic Dot 3 and 4 are just marketing labels, all brake fluid is synthesized.  I've used both types and mixed and matched the types and brands.  It all works.  I drain and flush my brake systems every two years on my cars, trucks and motorcycles.  So I have a healthy supply of mixed types.  Brake fluid can't be stored once opened, so if you ever buy a bottle to top up your car, use the remainder as paint stripper.  Polly Scale has a product called ELO, easy lift off, a pun on the Electric Light Orchestra no doubt, it is for all intents and purposes just brake fluid in a small yet expensive can.  Dot 5 is silicone and therefore I am not sure about its ability to be used to safely strip model paint.  As I've never used it.  I've also used Easy Off in the non-toxic blue aerosol can, with great success stripping acrylic paint from clear plastic.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 14, 2016, 04:51:08 AM
thanks windy, most helpful.

cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 19, 2016, 01:32:38 AM
Well I've tried Tesco Everyday Value All Purpose Cleaner, I don't know if they have changed the formula but it didn't touch the Vallejo paint, so on to brake fluid, SUCCESS, it works, I can carry on.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WnW Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 (Early)
Post by: nichenson on February 19, 2016, 02:30:29 AM
One thing I have found to strip Tamiya paints is 91-95% Isopropyl Alcohol or rubbing alcohol as they call it here.  This is much stronger than the normal one used in medicine as that is around 70% or less.  The problem with strippers comes in the way the molecules react to other agents.  Most oil based compounds are hydrophobic and non-polar.  Alcohol though is special in that it is hydrophilic and contains some non-polar and polar regions.  This is why when you get water in your gas tank, they suggest that you put alcohol in it to clear it out.  All that is doing is allowing the water to mix with the gas via the alcohol.  Since alcohol is like that, it can dissolve almost all dried paints.  It may take a little longer and it may not get it all as some paint may become embedded in the plastic itself, but it should get you almost back to square 1.