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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Completed models => Topic started by: coyotemagic on June 06, 2012, 10:17:46 AM
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Dear friends, I just finished this one as part of the Roden GB on another site. Now that she's done, I can focus on the OKGB and get the Hannover going. Been looking over the reference material and the kit instructions and I'm gettin' psyched.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Roden%20BE12b%20project/DSC00897.jpg)
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I apologize for the abundance of photos, but I'm just delighted that she's done.
Cheers,
Bud
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Really well done! Love those night markings. :)
Jim
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Hey Bud it's awesome over here too.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Very pretty Bud - looks a treat :)
Andrew
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Beautifully done Bud, she is a very attractive looking model.
Des.
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Great end result, thanks for showing it to us, looks like (the aircraft not the model) the aircraft has had an unfortunate run in between a BE2c and an SE5a
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Stunning build Bud, well done, beautiful model.
Cheers
Pete.
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Nice. Another Roden completed proving it can be done!!
Steve
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Hello Bud,
She looks great and really promissing and is worth to be photographed with more light on please :D
D
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Really well done! Love those night markings. :)
Jim
Thanks, Jim. Me, too. That's why I chose this scheme over the other two kit provided markings options. I'd really love to do a night fighter in NIVO. Maybe the Blue Max Avro 504k.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hey Bud it's awesome over here too.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Thanks, Gregory. Good to have you aboard with me on this one.
Cheers,
Bud
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That's a great looking build. I really like your subtle rib shading, it brings that otherwise boring PC10 to life :) Nice work
Thank you, Red. I actually enjoy working with PC10. I like experimenting with various shades and textures. I'm glad it worked this time.
Cheers,
Bud
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Very pretty Bud - looks a treat :)
Andrew
Beautifully done Bud, she is a very attractive looking model.
Des.
Thank you for your generosity, Andrew and Des. Pretty, she's not. She's kinda odd looking. Maybe that's where her charm lies.
I'd love to see you do one of these in 1/32 scale, Des.
Cheers,
Bud
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Very nice model Bud; what rigging material(s) did you use?
Cheers,
Lance
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Great end result, thanks for showing it to us, looks like (the aircraft not the model) the aircraft has had an unfortunate run in between a BE2c and an SE5a
You hit the nail on the head, my young friend. 1914 wings, struts and rigging married to a 1915 tail assembly, all attached to a 1917 forward fuselage and engine. Funny looking bus, ain't she?
Cheers,
Bud
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Stunning build Bud, well done, beautiful model.
Cheers
Pete.
Thanks, Pete. Much appreciated, mate.
Cheers,
Bud
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Nice. Another Roden completed proving it can be done!!
Steve
Thanks, Steve. You know, I really enjoyed this build. Roden kits aren't nearly as bad as everyone says they are. Well, the decals, maybe, but the only problem I had with them was the left rudder flash split in half while trying to position it. Other than that, piece of cake.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hello Bud,
She looks great and really promissing and is worth to be photographed with more light on please :D
D
She's a night fighter, Krzysiek. She's supposed to be in the dark. ;) I took these in natural lighting late in the day, so it wasn't as bright as it could have been. I'll try and take a few more in better lighting.
Cheers,
Bud
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Very nice model Bud; what rigging material(s) did you use?
Cheers,
Lance
Thank you, Lance. I used 2 lb test monofilament fishing line, painted with black and silver Sharpies, and 0.5mm od/ 0.33mm id brass tubing. For the control lines, I used smoke colored invisathread.
Cheers,
Bud
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that is one outstanding piece of work :) superb!
michael
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You've done a superb job on this aeroplane Bud. It's unfortunate that I missed the build log as I would've enjoyed following your progress from start to finish. Your rib shading is exceptionally well done and your rigging is top notch. You should be darned proud of this one!
Cheers,
Chris
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that is one outstanding piece of work :) superb!
michael
Thanks, Michael. Much appreciated, my friend.
You've done a superb job on this aeroplane Bud. It's unfortunate that I missed the build log as I would've enjoyed following your progress from start to finish. Your rib shading is exceptionally well done and your rigging is top notch. You should be darned proud of this one!
Cheers,
Chris
Thank you, Chris, old buddy. You know, I have this weird thing about posting a WIP in more than one place. A build I do here, stays here. A build I do there, stays there. That said, you can still pop in and take a peek as a guest, can't you?
http://www.greatwaraviation.com/forum/index.php/topic,2905.0.html
Cheers,
Bud
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Nicely rigged, great job! :D
BC
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Hey Bud,
That is a beautiful piece of work.
Best Regards
Keith
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Lovely work Bud. Among other things I always enjoy checking out you touch with the shading. Excellent.
“Thumbs Up”!
Paddy :)
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Superb model, bud -
Excellent rigging which looks pretty intricate to undertake - well done, mate!
Best regards
Dave
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Bud,
I've been following your build of this, and thoroughly enjoying it. It's great to see it finished, and what a beauty. Love the subtle shades on the wings.
Ken
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Thank you, Chris, old buddy. You know, I have this weird thing about posting a WIP in more than one place. A build I do here, stays here. A build I do there, stays there. That said, you can still pop in and take a peek as a guest, can't you?
http://www.greatwaraviation.com/forum/index.php/topic,2905.0.html
Cheers,
Bud
Unfortunately, when I pulled the plug over there, I pulled it completely. Guests have no access to threads. Such is life.
Cheers,
Chris
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Thank you, Chris, old buddy. You know, I have this weird thing about posting a WIP in more than one place. A build I do here, stays here. A build I do there, stays there. That said, you can still pop in and take a peek as a guest, can't you?
http://www.greatwaraviation.com/forum/index.php/topic,2905.0.html
Cheers,
Bud
Unfortunately, when I pulled the plug over there, I pulled it completely. Guests have no access to threads. Such is life.
Cheers,
Chris
Dammit, Chris! Sorry. I guess I could post some build pics here, if it's okay.
Cheers,
Bud
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Nicely rigged, great job! :D
BC
Thanks, Brad. I kept refering to your Aeroclub BE12/Roden SE5a kitbash during the build.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thank you so much, Keith, Paddy, Dave and Ken. I really do appreciate your kind words, guys.
Dave, all British planes are intricately rigged. I think that's why I prefer them over their German counterparts. In my display cases, I have 8 Central Powers aircraft (6 German and 2 A/H) and 14 Allied aircraft (8 British, 5 French and 1 Italian).
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud,
as I said elsewhere, Beautifully finished and detailed. Lovely work!
RAGIII
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Thanks, Rick. It was really good having you along for the ride.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thank you, Chris, old buddy. You know, I have this weird thing about posting a WIP in more than one place. A build I do here, stays here. A build I do there, stays there. That said, you can still pop in and take a peek as a guest, can't you?
http://www.greatwaraviation.com/forum/index.php/topic,2905.0.html
Cheers,
Bud
Unfortunately, when I pulled the plug over there, I pulled it completely. Guests have no access to threads. Such is life.
Cheers,
Chris
Here ya go, Chris. Nothing spectacular, but I did say I'd post some of the build photos for you.
Had to update the BE2c tail to the correct size and shape for the 12b.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Roden%20BE12b%20project/DSC00246.jpg)
Some interior shots:
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(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Roden%20BE12b%20project/DSC00793.jpg)
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Because of the openings in the bottom of the cowling, I wanted to add an engine, but didn't want the hassels of trying to line up the cylinder heads, so I cut them off.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Roden%20BE12b%20project/DSC00759.jpg)
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Roden%20BE12b%20project/DSC00799.jpg)
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Some pre-shading shots:
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And the rest is pretty standard painting and rigging stuff that you can see in the finished photos. Sorry to take up so much space with these. You can blame Chris. ;) (after all, how can I refuse a friend?)
Cheers,
Bud
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You make that rib masking technique look almost effortless Bud. You get killer results with it. I'll make my second stab at it with this Fairey Swordfish I'm currently building. As it doesn't fit in the scope of this forum, I don't have to show you guys how it turns out! ;D ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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You make that rib masking technique look almost effortless Bud. You get killer results with it. I'll make my second stab at it with this Fairey Swordfish I'm currently building. As it doesn't fit in the scope of this forum, I don't have to show you guys how it turns out! ;D ;D
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks, Chris, but you don't get off that easily, buddy. After all, we do have this section:
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?board=13.0
;)
Let's see some pics.
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud,
thanks for the WIP pics. Couple of newbie questions if I may :D
What material did you use for the preshading (I can see a container of powdered material in one shot)?
What's on the brush (if anything)?
What's on the cotton bud (if anything)?
Thanks
Andrew
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Sorry, Andrew. :-[ I should have included that info with the pics.
What material did you use for the preshading (I can see a container of powdered material in one shot)?
What's on the brush (if anything)?
What's on the cotton bud (if anything)?
The brown powder is ground up artist's pastels. Unfortunately, the artist didn't want to give up the pastels, so he got ground up with them. ???
There's nothing worth mentioning on the brush. I just use it to remove the excess pastel powder and other trace evidence. :-X
I just use the cotton bud to smooth everything out and get the shading just the way I want it.
This is a really easy technique. Just remember to apply the mask and pastels to a matt finish. You can use the same technique for post-shading. It's even more important to spray a flat finish over your decals and to pull the tape slowly back on itself to ensure the decals stay put.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks for the info Bud - very informative and filed for future reference!!
Maybe the "extra's" in the ground powder are your secret for making it look so effective ;D
Do you use a full range of colours for different effects or just a restricted range for weathering/making dirty effects?
Sorry for the questions - I find the use of pastels and such fascinating and very effective.
Andrew
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I have 36 colors, Andrew. So far, I've only used several shades of brown, tans, black and white. I have used green on occassion combined with brown and tan to create grass stains on skids and tires. I can foresee using greens and purples when I get around to building an Albatros. Give it a try, Andrew. I think you'll be surprised at how easy it is and pleased with the results.
Cheers,
Bud
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Wow 36 ground up artists!!! What did you fix the pastels with after you put then on? Sorry if you answered that elsewhere.
Steve
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Steve, I usually just apply the finish coat of paint next unless I'm doing woodgrain decals or lozenge, then I spray clear gloss. I almost always use lacquers.
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud,
I got a step by step from Chris on this technique and hope to use it on my Albatros Build. I previously have done the "standard" Pre-Shade method with good results however given the dark purple/green upper wing and lozenge lower on this one I reasoned your "Post-Shading" approach would work better. Also an all black fuselage.
I'm having trouble accessing pastels, no Art Supply source within 200 miles. The only ones I could get is a very basic set of ten sticks (labeled Artist's Oil Pastels),pricey and a lot of colours I'll probably never use. I am going to try two alternate routes: I have some modelling pigments (powder) and reason they should work; I also picked up several Artist's coloured pencils intending to grind them down (Prismacolor brand and not cheap as well!) Any thoughts and/or advice on what you think might work would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Lance :-\
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Bud,
Lots to learn from this thread: beautiful job!
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Bud,
I got a step by step from Chris on this technique and hope to use it on my Albatros Build. I previously have done the "standard" Pre-Shade method with good results however given the dark purple/green upper wing and lozenge lower on this one I reasoned your "Post-Shading" approach would work better. Also an all black fuselage.
I'm having trouble accessing pastels, no Art Supply source within 200 miles. The only ones I could get is a very basic set of ten sticks (labeled Artist's Oil Pastels),pricey and a lot of colours I'll probably never use. I am going to try two alternate routes: I have some modelling pigments (powder) and reason they should work; I also picked up several Artist's coloured pencils intending to grind them down (Prismacolor brand and not cheap as well!) Any thoughts and/or advice on what you think might work would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Lance :-\
Lance, I just started ordering from these guys and they are great. Really reasonable and you can order individual sticks at $2 US each. Don't have to buy a set that includes colors you'll never use.
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud,
Lots to learn from this thread: beautiful job!
Thanks, Gary. Much appreciated, brother.
Cheers,
Bud
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By the way, gorgeous BE12!
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Thanks Bud and Uncle Tony, I had a good look on the Blick Site and briefed my Wife on the requirement. She has to go to the "Big City" this weekend and should be able to visit an Art Supply Store we sometimes visit. If not, I'll order on-line. The big issue was oil vs. "other" Pastels, now I know!
Cheers,
Lance
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By the way, gorgeous BE12!
Thanks, Tony! And thank you for posting the link to Blick. I thought I had done it, but apparently not. :-[ I now get all my oils, markers, water colors and pastels from them since they charge half what Michael's charges.
Good luck, Lance. You should have no problem getting what you need, now.
Cheers,
Bud