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Title: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on December 07, 2014, 05:42:11 AM
Being separated from my workbench, I am getting at this one slowly and brush painting everything. Will be back with my airbrush for the fuselage and empennage though.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GokM1RSX2VE/VIJ3dTHYODI/AAAAAAAAEgU/3vqEi-MU0xg/s640/2014_12_%2525205_20_26.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Y3JhV_vE450/VIJ3aeUyaHI/AAAAAAAAEgM/6Rcr80oV3ns/s640/2014_12_%2525205_20_26.jpg)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: uncletony on December 07, 2014, 06:50:45 AM
That looks very nice!
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Des on December 07, 2014, 06:58:08 AM
You have made a great start with this kit, I really like the colours you have used, looking forward to seeing more updates.

Des.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: BigBlue on December 07, 2014, 07:26:33 AM
I'll second (third) the comments... really looks great.  I agree with Des: the colors are lovely.

Chris
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: radio on December 07, 2014, 07:28:44 AM
Really great beginning.
Martin
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: RAGIII on December 07, 2014, 01:19:21 PM
Your brush work is very impressive! Looking great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: KitRookie37 on December 07, 2014, 06:12:49 PM
Hello to all,
With brush painting ???? Amazing ! A very nice job.
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: gruson on December 07, 2014, 07:09:28 PM
Hello,
The work of the cockpit is very pretty.

I wish you a good progress
michel
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on December 08, 2014, 02:26:43 AM
This is the first time since getting an airbrush (about fifteen years ago) that I have extensively brush painted. What you see are primarily Tamiya acrylics, thinned with Tamiya acrylic thinner. Two or more thin coats seem to be the way to effectively brush paint with Tamiya paints.

And, I have discovered that brush painting is very pleasant and satisfying.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: RAGIII on December 08, 2014, 02:46:47 AM
This is the first time since getting an airbrush (about fifteen years ago) that I have extensively brush painted. What you see are primarily Tamiya acrylics, thinned with Tamiya acrylic thinner. Two or more thin coats seem to be the way to effectively brush paint with Tamiya paints.

And, I have discovered that brush painting is very pleasant and satisfying.

You now have even more respect from me than before! I have never been successful hand painting Tamiya Acrylics. Perhaps their Brand Name thinner is the answer?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on December 08, 2014, 04:50:22 AM
I have tried various thinning potions, including alcohol, windscreen cleaning fluid, etc. but I have found that Tamiya acrylic thinner works great with their acrylic paints. The large plastic bottle lasts ages and most importantly, it works. With Tamiya acrylics one MUST not brush paint over bare plastic. Prime it or paint it first. When I don't prime, I lay on two or three thinned coats of paint, letting each dry between. That's the key I think. The first coat or two will be "streaky" and uneven in places. Sometimes this is a neat effect and you can leave it as is, or add a darker or lighter shade to the next coat and enhance that a bit. Keep it up, letting each coat dry before applying the next. Doesn't take
long with acrylic paint.

Later you can slop on a thin acrylic wash in a darker shade to give it some tonal variation. You probably can't apply too many washes, especially for  dark colors like wood or leather. I like to experiment with brush and airbrush.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: gcn on December 08, 2014, 05:51:00 AM
Brush painting with tamiya acrylics an enjoyable experience ???

Burn the witch

That is some fine brush painting. Kudos
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: uncletony on December 08, 2014, 05:56:27 AM
I'm with you Eindecker -- I enjoy brush painting with Tamiya acrylics, too, however I have switched from Tamiya thinner to 91% Isopropyl Alcohol almost exclusively. The stuff is brilliant, haters may hate all they want. It dries virtually instantly and you can reactivate at will with IPA for blending effects etc. As you say, multiple thin coats are the secret.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on December 08, 2014, 06:08:26 AM
Hmmm... IPA means India Pale Ale in my book, which, in fact tends to reactivate me to a certain extent (but once the two bottle threshold is exceeded, the opposite effect quickly sets in). However, you probably meant something different.

I'm willing to give 91% Isopropyl another go. Sounds promising.

Being without my airbrush for the past few weeks has given me a renewed appreciation for brush painting. I should have the cockpit finished this coming week, and maybe the engine too. I will be reunited with my modeling workbench, and airbrush, after that.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: rolanddvi on December 08, 2014, 06:19:44 AM
Eindeker,

 Not to hijack your thread but I found this several months ago on brush painting Tamiya with 91% alcohol. It does work very well I think.

http://zerobxu.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/hand-painting-with-tamiya-acrylics/

Mike
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: uncletony on December 08, 2014, 07:30:56 AM
Hmmm... IPA means India Pale Ale in my book, which, in fact tends to reactivate me to a certain extent (but once the two bottle threshold is exceeded, the opposite effect quickly sets in). However, you probably meant something different.

Yes, sorry IPA = IsoPropyl Alcohol in this context

has to be the strong stuff (91%)

Start with a drop of paint from the jar off a toothpick into a plastic palette cup. Add a small drop of IPA. If it is too thin at first, wait 30 seconds :) Add IPA as needed to the paint while you work to keep it the consistency you like...even if it dries out completely in the cup you can resurrect it with IPA and it will still flow beautifully and stick just fine...
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on December 11, 2014, 11:54:19 AM
Finished the cockpit tonight. Taking the entire kit and tool box home this weekend. Will be able to set up my workbench and do the rest there. iPhone 6 photos, with room light, so sorry if they are kinda wonky.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PuHJ6DvaOo4/VIj4p0IaQII/AAAAAAAAFLQ/Zjfxi71Nbr8/s640/2014_12_10_18_51.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Pvc-cWRRY9I/VIj4TEpTWUI/AAAAAAAAFLI/DOYfIu6kJNc/s640/2014_12_10_18_50.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NNFggVYq008/VIj4Sef_gUI/AAAAAAAAFLA/-LK8CUXt9iw/s640/2014_12_10_18_50.jpg)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: uncletony on December 11, 2014, 11:57:32 AM
Excellent!
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: coyotemagic on December 11, 2014, 01:56:40 PM
Absolutely brilliant cockpit, Eindecker!  Looking forward to following this one.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: KitRookie37 on December 11, 2014, 03:43:47 PM
Hello to all,
Charming home... Excellent !! Congratulations !!
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: radio on December 11, 2014, 08:27:18 PM
Wounderful Cockpit.
Martin
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: RAGIII on December 12, 2014, 01:56:42 AM
Beautifully  done interior! I am definitely looking forward to your continued progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on February 03, 2015, 07:45:25 AM
I am getting more build time. I am about ready to close the fuselage after painting and mounting the header tank. I drilled a .35mm hole in the filler neck to accept my version of the pressure relief tube. The tube will be made from "Larva Lace", a plastic stretchy tube made for tying trout flies, reinforced with a small diameter copper wire so it will take and hold a curve later on.

I highlighted the interior tapes with a heavier gray pastel so they would be a bit more obvious once the fuselage is closed. I also added a little extra to the port fuselage wall in the observer's compartment to tie the instruments better together.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dMFjq_dUoCs/VM_rJzxs93I/AAAAAAAAFTE/MWlWc9TmYKI/s640/2015_%2525202_%2525202_14_24.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Wom3Q6WaV6c/VM_rFsGcJ1I/AAAAAAAAFS8/0y7hRoeEBOM/s640/2015_%2525202_%2525202_14_24.jpg)

Considering the way in which the main subassemblies are designed, I'm thinking of painting and preparing the wings and tail sections separately before bringing them all together. I'm close to the painting stage and will be considering how to pre-shade and mottle the fuselage and wings so that the overall blue will be more interesting and reflect some use in the field.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: RAGIII on February 03, 2015, 01:55:57 PM
I somehow missed this update. Your interior looks Awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: BigBlue on February 03, 2015, 02:17:44 PM
Wow, I'm just getting caught up... looks great!

Chris
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Ernie on February 03, 2015, 10:13:55 PM
Wonderful work on the cockpit, Eindecker...your brush
painting puts my airbrushing to shame.  Really well done!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: radio on February 04, 2015, 05:54:59 AM
Very beautiful work Eindecker.
Martin
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Alexis on February 04, 2015, 10:49:48 AM
Shaping up very nicely so far ! :)




Terri
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on February 04, 2015, 11:08:37 AM
Thanks, everyone. I got the header tank prepared and installed, then closed the fuselage. Had a small gap next to the lower wing root, but should be easily dealt with. I like it that the four windows allow more of the interior to be seen.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on February 08, 2015, 10:32:03 AM
Update. Fuselage closed. Seams dealt with. About done with the fuselage assembly. Will be working on the wings, undercarriage, tail and guns separately, then bringing them all together.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F7gjhx4VOc4/VNaTq0Fuq2I/AAAAAAAAFTU/u4eMr8mbLO0/s640/2015_%2525202_%2525207_15_37.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QzQTlaek-Vc/VNaTvEyT1gI/AAAAAAAAFTc/EfADW0kAr0E/s640/2015_%2525202_%2525207_15_37.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uWwr42G-30k/VNaTz8W1wEI/AAAAAAAAFTk/v8SV_C9LujQ/s640/2015_%2525202_%2525207_15_37.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TzGmeNnv7ls/VNaT6H_j8jI/AAAAAAAAFTs/0xZArbAXRg4/s640/2015_%2525202_%2525207_15_38.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Vtp0JSMPiso/VNaT8y0n_qI/AAAAAAAAFT0/XZXyReVpfAQ/s640/2015_%2525202_%2525207_15_38.jpg)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: coyotemagic on February 08, 2015, 11:08:56 AM
Outstanding work, Micheal!  Lookin' really SWEET!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: LukasTheLight on February 08, 2015, 09:47:06 PM
Hello there,

Magical work!!! Such a joy to see you will be able to see little more from the cockpit with those windows :) There surely is pure beauty that will be admired...Superb cockpit!!! And engine!!!

Lukas
 
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on February 12, 2015, 03:30:09 PM
A small update. Have been preparing the wings, elevators, etc. for initial paint. I decided to pin the ailerons and elevators. I used stainless tube for the ailerons, and twisted wire for the elevators.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pI9iuKd4Nfk/VNw46fYX6LI/AAAAAAAAFUA/9GtQvOE1ydY/s640/2015_%2525202_11_22_23.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-htVMJW6Gge4/VNw5AsGxFOI/AAAAAAAAFUI/KD_iSOVJcYY/s640/2015_%2525202_11_22_23.jpg)

Going to Boulder (Colorado) to visit our daughter and see her in a play. More progress this weekend.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Dol on February 12, 2015, 07:05:04 PM
Great job !!  :)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: coyotemagic on February 13, 2015, 02:15:46 AM
Smart decision to pin them, Michael.  Looks great.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on February 13, 2015, 03:04:39 AM
I didn't take photos, but the twisted wire pins work better if one needs to bend them a bit, for proper adjustments or to change alignment such as for an aileron or elevator positioning.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: BigBlue on February 13, 2015, 03:14:35 AM
This is a fascinating aircraft and you are doing it justice!  I look forward to more updates.

Chris
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on February 17, 2015, 04:16:47 AM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MW7g5fo_0Uw/VOIxURCKKpI/AAAAAAAAFeA/WbxU3nnzPLE/s640/2015_%2525202_16_11_%2525204.png)

Preparing to put detail into the captured Lewis gun and mount for scheme A.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: RAGIII on February 17, 2015, 05:46:01 AM
Your Roland looks great all buttoned up! Looking forward to your detailing of the captured Lewis!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: radio on February 18, 2015, 03:08:29 AM
Very great work with all the details.
Martin
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Alexis on February 18, 2015, 11:22:24 AM
Shaping up very nicely indeed  8)




Terri
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on March 13, 2015, 02:10:01 AM
Been a while since my last update. Combination of very cold weather and three feet of snow has brought most normal activity to a crawl. Not having a spray booth for my airbrush, I tend to not use it during the cold since opening the window near my bench and turning on the fan guarantees frostbite within about ten minutes.

The plane - its various assemblies - is ready for paint. I may forge ahead and brush paint the entire thing. Not decided, but I have a few days before I can begin anyway.

The last episode was an exercise in what Tom McGuane called "dire clownage". I primered everything with Tamiya fine primer. I then drew the ribs and spars on the undersides of the wings with a fine tip charcoal pencil and blended the lines for a "shadowy" effect. I had some Aviattic German light CDL samples, enough to do both wings, so I trimmed and began to lay these on. The effect was, I think, very nice – subtle linen appearance with the dark lines visible through the decals. Aviattic decals are very good for enhancing effects like this.

However, I had two issues: the decals would not stay completely bonded to the surface. Since I had previously used Aviattic Fokker loz on my group build kit and did not have this problem, I am convinced it was due to my insufficient preparation of the wing surfaces. They were not as smooth nor glossy as they should have been. To be clear, this was not an issue with Aviattic decals, but with this modeler's failure to use them correctly. Some day I will learn to RTFM and follow what is in there.

The second issue was that I didn't have enough German clear CDL to finish the job. One of my sample CDL squares was almost clear, not light gray. Of the five sample sheets I have, this was the only piece that didn't turn out as expected. Remember, it was a sample, provided by Richard for testing. I'm certain the production sheets will be as outstanding as the rest of the decals on my sample sheet, and the Fokker lozenge were.

So, given that, I stripped the decals and the wings are now ready for light coats of paint so that the ribs and spars will peek through.

I put this forward as a learning experience, which all of my modeling builds have been for me. I struggle to meet my initial expectations of producing a flawless and jaw-dropping build. A grail never to be achieved, but I'm finding the fun is in the trying.

I still plan to use Aviattic German CDL on my forthcoming Eindecker E-I. That should be quite an improvement over my airbrushing skills.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Ernie on March 13, 2015, 03:49:30 AM
Super updates, Michael.  I wasn't much of a fan of the C.II, but you have
succeeded in changing my mind. ::) ;D  Oh well another one on the "want"
list. ;D  Great job on the Roland.  I look forward to the next updates.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: coyotemagic on March 13, 2015, 03:54:05 AM

I put this forward as a learning experience, which all of my modeling builds have been for me. I struggle to meet my initial expectations of producing a flawless and jaw-dropping build. A grail never to be achieved, but I'm finding the fun is in the trying.

My philosophy to the letter, Michael.  I've yet to be disappointed.  Spring's just around the corner, buddy.  Looking forward to the continuation of this project.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on March 24, 2015, 02:31:12 PM
Main painting finished. Have some bumps, bits and blobs to fix, but over all not too bad. The wings and stabilizers are not glued — am treating them as subassemblies. After some fix up, I plan to gloss coat for decals, weather everything, install the Lewis and Spandau, landing gear and prop. Going slowly, but good to be back into it.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Xzpe-PgXgH8/VRDjmoqUvMI/AAAAAAAAFrk/PZ3sSGTyRjs/s640/2015_%2525203_23_22_%2525209.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ALmBpX0JSjw/VRDjeNwDodI/AAAAAAAAFrc/Xuz2WYSt3rs/s640/2015_%2525203_23_22_%2525208.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f9FTI_GIvhI/VRDjzABFwaI/AAAAAAAAFr8/iSSHF_gefTI/s640/2015_%2525203_23_22_10.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eylC1aMCeHE/VRDjv7Ge35I/AAAAAAAAFr0/9PDn2U6NLpc/s640/2015_%2525203_23_22_10.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8AO68yWTZtk/VRDjrVcAIWI/AAAAAAAAFrs/AdC2ZujNnSc/s640/2015_%2525203_23_22_10.jpg)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Ernie on March 24, 2015, 11:16:27 PM
Wow! She's really starting to look the business with the wings
resting in place, Michael!  I am liking this build very much, and you
have inspired me to put the C.II on the short list.  Looking forward
to the next updates, my friend. :)

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: lcarroll on March 24, 2015, 11:41:46 PM
I struggle to meet my initial expectations of producing a flawless and jaw-dropping build. A grail never to be achieved, but I'm finding the fun is in the trying.

    Great statement Michael! You've captured the spirit of a Hobby vs. a self imposed burden to a tee! I am the same, and until recently tended to become very frustrated with other then absolutely perfect results; once realising only a few are perfect in this activity (but significantly never in their own eyes) I enjoy my projects far more. Lovely work on this, and nice recovery on the CDL issue. Having used the Aviattic Product on my last Build I look forward to using it again, your E1 will be a great opportunity to use it once you've "restocked".
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on March 25, 2015, 01:40:30 AM
Thanks! As to the Aviattic decals I am convinced that reading and following Aviattic's directions for use will produce a fine finish. I tend to take short circuits (more damaging than short cuts) sometimes which seldom work out as intended. I'm developing a plan for how to incorporate weathering and oil staining with the decals on the Eindecker. Richard is kindly swapping some of his decals for some of my extras.

Today will mostly be a fix the paint issues day, and perhaps get decals in place.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: radio on March 25, 2015, 02:29:22 AM
Very good work Michael.
Martin
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on March 27, 2015, 06:34:57 AM
Basic paint down, some repairs and touch ups needed. Most decals on and they need more final work as well. I managed to tear a couple, so I will be using paint to hide those areas. iPhone photos, so the resolution isn't what I want, but I adjusted them a bit in iPhoto. As I near completion and get the repair work finished, I'll drag out the lights and the "big" camera and take some better shots. These will serve to illustrate my so-called progress:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UrRlY7fk0UU/VRRGc1CRG_I/AAAAAAAAFv4/W05Hg0yxM-Y/w1460-h790-no/2015_%2B3_26_11_48.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-T0PyD2BElOY/VRRGgMBKjtI/AAAAAAAAFtg/1rSP6CPQGBs/w1388-h879-no/2015_%2B3_26_11_48.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mYAJ0m9uN2IUycAPNeGLSI0_v9H5-0WCuLtOiH248Ao=w1460-h803)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WCx-PMlRchU/VRRGmcs4umI/AAAAAAAAFtw/EoJFc4pM1-s/w1207-h879-no/2015_%2B3_26_11_49.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PV8afePT53I/VRRGotr7yOI/AAAAAAAAFt4/OQePrjQF0lM/w659-h879-no/2015_%2B3_26_11_49.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Vw88ZESVztc/VRRGqmcRDxI/AAAAAAAAFuA/f2h-xhC5mC0/w1172-h879-no/2015_%2B3_26_11_49.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9tmz5CxJrCo/VRRGsnlKU0I/AAAAAAAAFuI/ifH4rlu5Nuc/w1312-h879-no/2015_%2B3_26_11_49.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T2CYoh8U3ZU/VRRGu79gYBI/AAAAAAAAFuQ/0gnAj7eouQY/w1343-h879-no/2015_%2B3_26_11_49.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CrOTXNU7_nI/VRRGxBVgj7I/AAAAAAAAFuY/7qGk0CxVpa0/w1319-h879-no/2015_%2B3_26_11_49.jpg)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Des on March 27, 2015, 06:44:42 AM
Your painting and decal application is very well done, the shading under the wings is excellent, starting to come together nicely now. The more I see of this build the closer my kit is moving to the top of the stash.

Des.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: zavod44 on March 27, 2015, 06:54:44 AM
Your painting and decal application is very well done, the shading under the wings is excellent, starting to come together nicely now. The more I see of this build the closer my kit is moving to the top of the stash.

Des.


Agreed, what a really cool looking aircraft
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: radio on March 27, 2015, 11:10:58 AM
Very well done.
Martin
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on March 27, 2015, 11:46:40 AM
Thank you all for you kind comments. The "Whale" has a strange appeal — ahead of its time and primitive design elements contribute to that appeal I think. A bit more of the internals are visible with the windows and the hybrid weaponry available gives it a unique appearance.

Rigging is minimal, relatively, which makes it a good candidate for those rigging-challenged among us. If I do another, I will choose a camouflage model. All that light blue is hard for me to work with successfully.

My build has quite a few less than optimal areas, but as I said before, each is a learning experience. I suppose if they were not, I would take up another hobby.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: RAGIII on March 27, 2015, 03:57:04 PM
Really well done on decal application and painting! I wish I could take photos as nicely with my camera as you do with the I Phone  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Ernie on March 27, 2015, 09:03:24 PM
Wonderful job of the paint, Michael.  I really like what
you have done on the fuselage to break up the solid
colour.  As Des mentioned, the under-wing shading is
beautifully done.  I've never been a fan of the "fishy faces",
but otherwise she is certainly shaping up to be a stunner, my
friend!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: BigBlue on March 27, 2015, 11:52:30 PM
I love how this is coming together, Michael.... really enjoyable to watch.  Very well done!

Chris
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: coyotemagic on March 28, 2015, 02:00:31 AM
Excellent paint and decal work, Michael!  She's shaping up beautifully.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Alexis on March 28, 2015, 10:06:32 AM
Very nice paint work  :)




Terri
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on March 28, 2015, 01:06:47 PM
Starting the Lewis gun and mount.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hE0Ezwe0KVU/VRYL24L8huI/AAAAAAAAFxI/Y0y-qBjglSE/s640/2015_%2525203_27_20_%2525202.jpg)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: KitRookie37 on March 28, 2015, 04:08:39 PM
Hello gentlemen,
Well done mate.  :D
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: uncletony on March 28, 2015, 10:30:58 PM
Looking nice Michael
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on April 01, 2015, 12:06:50 PM
Lewis gun finished, and beginning of the rigging.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xNZzi3frzeQ/VRc9XKcV02I/AAAAAAAAFx0/guD85bgz6GI/w1228-h823-no/2015_%2B3_28_17_46.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vvmXDRSBmqs/VRc9aFMM6OI/AAAAAAAAFx8/YR1nnXUPT2Y/w746-h901-no/2015_%2B3_28_17_46.jpg)

The brutal closeups of the Lewis gun and rigging. The "Bowden" trigger actuation cable will be routed through a hole in the windscreen and attached inside. I don't have photos of where this might be, so any info will help. I need to make a wooden handle for the release cable for the Lewis and attach that too.

I think the twisted wire eyes for the rigging anchors are too big. But, I'm keeping them as is. However, I adopted another technique for the rest of the rigging.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tihVWbgWN9A/VRr2pGd0sAI/AAAAAAAAFzs/M_J6AOlaEy8/w1025-h901-no/2015_%2B3_31_13_33.jpg)

These are made from 0.014" ID stainless tubing cut to length (realllllly short...) and threaded with 0.006" mono colored with a Sharpie marking pen.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SfNG3ygE6Z0/VRr2sLBmjOI/AAAAAAAAFz0/fJj5sMRcG0g/w1022-h901-no/2015_%2B3_31_13_33.jpg)

I attached a length of EZ Line to the eyes with CA, then used the same to attach the mono end into the rigging hole. Looks better without the extreme closeup.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: PrzemoL on April 01, 2015, 09:49:14 PM
Fine modelling, all around, eindecker. A nice model in the making!
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: coyotemagic on April 02, 2015, 01:14:09 AM
Excellent work, Michael.  She's shaping up beautifully.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: radio on April 02, 2015, 04:05:27 AM
Very great work Michael.
Martin
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: RAGIII on April 02, 2015, 04:36:31 PM
Excellent work, Michael.  She's shaping up beautifully.
Cheers,
Bud

Plus one from Amigo #2
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Ernie on April 02, 2015, 09:30:18 PM
Good progress, Michael.  The Lewis gun and it's attachments looks
absolutely terrific!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Gisbod on April 03, 2015, 05:47:18 PM


I put this forward as a learning experience, which all of my modeling builds have been for me. I struggle to meet my initial expectations of producing a flawless and jaw-dropping build. A grail never to be achieved, but I'm finding the fun is in the trying.



That's exactly how I feel Michael  :D Mine always start off being a Scale model world 'Best in Show' winner but the evil modelling elves visit my workbench at night and ruin it...  :P

Guy
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on April 04, 2015, 04:53:47 AM


I put this forward as a learning experience, which all of my modeling builds have been for me. I struggle to meet my initial expectations of producing a flawless and jaw-dropping build. A grail never to be achieved, but I'm finding the fun is in the trying.



That's exactly how I feel Michael  :D Mine always start off being a Scale model world 'Best in Show' winner but the evil modelling elves visit my workbench at night and ruin it...  :P

Guy

LOL. So true. I did compete for a number of years when we lived in northern California and I enjoyed the shows and meeting other modelers. I learned quite a bit about modeling basics, especially after judging in a number of IPMS shows, but I still struggle with achieving the standard I would like. I am slowly getting "cured" from that perspective and am enjoying the planning, building and experimenting with new techniques and materials. WWI modeling has such a wide variety of options and techniques available to us modelers that it doesn't get old. I also enjoy learning about and building American Civil War ironclads. I have the USS Monitor in 1:96 scale in progress that I plan to finish this summer.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Pgtaylorart on April 04, 2015, 05:38:55 AM



LOL. So true. I did compete for a number of years when we lived in northern California and I enjoyed the shows and meeting other modelers. I learned quite a bit about modeling basics, especially after judging in a number of IPMS shows, but I still struggle with achieving the standard I would like. I am slowly getting "cured" from that perspective and am enjoying the planning, building and experimenting with new techniques and materials. WWI modeling has such a wide variety of options and techniques available to us modelers that it doesn't get old. I also enjoy learning about and building American Civil War ironclads. I have the USS Monitor in 1:96 scale in progress that I plan to finish this summer.
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Oooh, an ironclad! Not to hijack this thread, but I'd like to see build pics of your ironclad, Michael.

George
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on April 07, 2015, 04:45:01 AM
This weekend I finished with the "turnbuckles", installing them and the rigging of EZ Line to the fuselage and wing anchor points. Sunday, I attached the wings and struts. Rigging and further "weathering" (highlights and shadows) to come on the wing surfaces. And, to maintain my membership in the Modeling Klutz and Clownage School, USA Chapter, I managed to break off an elevator.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Gq_i9InGx88/VSLQ5WJH96I/AAAAAAAAF1M/3Kj1alRX_X4/s1024/2015_%25204_%25206_12_30.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TA9f1oXf_7U/VSLQ9E6dTsI/AAAAAAAAF1U/BcJ22DOQm_k/s1152/2015_%25204_%25206_12_31.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FFEHe5zpKqQ/VSLRBHbkCYI/AAAAAAAAF1c/8TjKFQhiYrU/s912/2015_%25204_%25206_12_31.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jQkKDhOM2eQ/VSLRELQJ0TI/AAAAAAAAF1k/LY0fbt_Ue8U/s720/2015_%25204_%25206_12_31.jpg)

And, now, my reward for another milestone reached in modeling:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aAE9CQyC18A/UU3w9tfjboI/AAAAAAAABms/pgt2OjP7Co0/s1024/2013_%25203_23_12_13.jpg)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Pgtaylorart on April 07, 2015, 05:36:36 AM
 Oh man, I don't know what looks better, your model or that burger! Sorry, but it's lunchtime here and I'm leaning towards that burger! ;D

George
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: coyotemagic on April 07, 2015, 10:04:24 AM
This build is a real pleasure to follow, Michael!  This is the scheme I hope to do when I eventually get around to building mine and I'm learning so much from you with each update.  That burger looks fantastic, as well.  Not sure I could survive that, though.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on April 07, 2015, 12:08:46 PM
I don't make a regular meal out of those, but, every now and then.... Makes up for the seaweed, brown rice and tofu my nutrition czar dictates.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: LukasTheLight on May 26, 2015, 09:33:04 PM
Still absolutely brilliant... oh and that burger looks delicious!!! :)

Lukas
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on June 04, 2015, 03:07:52 AM
It's been a while. My modeling mojo took a hike a few weeks back. I ran into some frustrations with the rigging on the Roland, that combined with some personal upheavals and these $#*&! cancer meds were responsible. At least, that's my story. However, I have picked it back up and made some progress of late. I'd say I'm near finishing. Remaining are some rigging trimming, re-attaching the claw brake (don't ask...), Lewis gun release handle, rudder insignia decals, two windows and the fishy anemometer. Photos later.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: radio on June 04, 2015, 03:18:26 AM
Well to hear that. Waiting for the updates.
Martin
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: BigBlue on June 04, 2015, 10:30:05 PM
Glad you're back at it.  Hope all is well and that you're feeling ok.

Chris
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: RAGIII on June 04, 2015, 11:13:31 PM
I am looking forward to the updates. Good to see you back at the bench!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: LukasTheLight on June 09, 2015, 01:52:47 AM
Good to see you back Eindecker!!!!

I always say that it is better when you know that It wouldnt do any good to a model to force yourself to carry on... once frustration is over and you are back with clear head results are always better... Hope you are well and looking foward to see more progress ;)

Lukas
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on June 09, 2015, 02:55:20 AM
I agree. I've flown a few models not the trash bin in the past. I am not so prone to do that any more. I just put them on the shelf and wait. At some point I finish them and am glad I did. In fact, I now plan to work my way slowly through my collection of orphans, finishing them all. One advantage is that I am not so much on the perfection track now. Cancer has given me some new perspectives on what is and is not important to me.

For example, I'm not so hung up on turnbuckles now. I'm either dispensing with them entirely or using Bob's Buckles as anchor points. Good idea from Wingnut Wings.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on July 06, 2015, 06:32:53 AM
Done.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kerIrORcsQk/VZmST_TlQ6I/AAAAAAAAGKw/u8dimQPfQ6w/s640/2015_07_05_14_23_39.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GBZJngyTDqo/VZmSWVd4DyI/AAAAAAAAGK4/iBp79qDfCpg/s640/2015_07_05_14_23_47.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h5eT6P4Ec3o/VZmSjsLJdXI/AAAAAAAAGLk/ImU4rZrWzlQ/s640/2015_07_05_14_24_37.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PxoJckVrdvs/VZmSflItvKI/AAAAAAAAGLc/sr7z0HKDWoU/s640/2015_07_05_14_24_23.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b_NIjeWk5ko/VZmSbyWfEtI/AAAAAAAAGLU/FnU6qVaa98M/s640/2015_07_05_14_24_11.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hSeObg_bzSE/VZmSZOT6_zI/AAAAAAAAGLA/kpzSOcbQzPA/s640/2015_07_05_14_23_59.jpg)

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Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: coyotemagic on July 06, 2015, 06:46:41 AM
Awesome!  She's absolutely gorgeous, Micheal!  I'd be delighted if mine turned out half as fine.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: drdave on July 06, 2015, 06:47:20 AM
That's top notch!
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Pgtaylorart on July 06, 2015, 06:56:36 AM
Stunning build of your Roland C.II, Michael! :D

George
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Mark on July 06, 2015, 07:05:07 AM
Wonderful workmanship--top notch!

Mark G
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: rhwinter on July 06, 2015, 08:04:45 AM
Beautiful!
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Des on July 06, 2015, 08:27:47 AM
Absolutely stunning Michael, you have done a superb job with this model, the overall finish is excellent, well done.

Des.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on July 06, 2015, 08:42:09 AM
Thanks. As a matter of criticism I would like to note that all of the shortcomings, of which there are many, resulted from my average modeling skills and impatience, not from the kit itself. this kit is not perfect — none are, but it is flawless in terms of design and assembly.

Issues I experienced:

1. I could have fitted the bottom wings better to the fuselage. More care with clean up and alignment needed on my part.
2. Breaking off an elevator, the result of putting them on too early.
3. My inability to rig the aileron control wires, resulting in what Tom McGuane accurately described as "dire clownage".
4. Turnbuckle alignment: even using brass tube and a loop of monofilament to provide some flexibility, I managed to get some cockeyed. I think from now on, I will dispense with turnbuckles exception the most necessary places.
5. Using twisted wire "eyes" of my own manufacturing that are too large for the Lewis gun rigging. I now have Bob's Buckles which would have been much better.
6. Not getting the decal areas glossy enough, especially on the wings.
7. I goobered up a window. Don't ask...
8. The extra cockpit wiring is invisible now.
9. I forgot to paint the spinner when I painted the wings and fuselage, so it has become a new replacement from the parts pool.
10. I managed to break off the front tip end of the claw brake.

This is a outstanding kit of a significant and funky WWI aircraft. Everyone should build at least one.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Doug Mace on July 06, 2015, 08:49:30 AM
E......did McGuane use that phrase in reference to his trout fishing?
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: radio on July 06, 2015, 09:16:10 AM
Exellent build.  ;D
Martin
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on July 06, 2015, 10:30:10 AM
E......did McGuane use that phrase in reference to his trout fishing?
He did. In "The Longest Silence" describing his first attempts to catch a permit on a fly. Outstanding writing.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: RAGIII on July 06, 2015, 03:45:43 PM
In spite of your self criticism I think this is a terrific looking Model! It certainly captures the look and feel of the period! Your painting and decaling are excellent and your rigging looks fine to me.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Ernie on July 06, 2015, 07:55:55 PM
Congratulations of a wonderful model, Michael!  It is a
great build log for anyone to follow as the results attest.
Well done, my friend!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: GrahamB on July 07, 2015, 08:19:30 AM
Well, you might have a downer about things but I think it is top notch. Still, I had my own 'íssues' with the thing as well that were almost all, like yours, self-inflicted.
Nice to see another take on the camouflage/paint job (not that there was one scheme anyway).

Cheers,

GrahamB



Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: eindecker on July 07, 2015, 09:54:25 AM
Rich, Ernie, Graham, thanks. I am my own worst critic. But I don't mope over it. I had to do the version with the captured Lewis gun. I'd likely do a late camo version, kind of beat up, if I were to build another.

Right now, I am attempting a very small, scratch build of the CSS Richmond, one of the classic ironclads from our Civil War period. The really good resin and metal kits of ironclads cost well over $200 so I thought I would see if I can build a passable one from styrene sheet. If it turns out all right I could put what I learn to use on a larger model with more detail.
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: LukasTheLight on August 28, 2015, 06:06:09 AM
Somehow I just managed to noticed that this bird is ready to fly :) She looks gorgeous!!!! There is so much to cathing up with after few weeks absence...

Lukas
Title: Re: Roland C.II Wingnut Wings
Post by: Michael Scarborough on August 28, 2015, 10:02:16 AM
I'm with Lukas.....sorry to have missed the unveiling.

Really excellent, Michael, and a testimony to perseverance. Bravo.

Re: C.S.S. Richmond (which took part in the War Between the States, please) can we have a look????

Cheers from NYC,
Michael (up here in yankee land as a spy)