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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Chris Johnson on September 22, 2014, 05:22:37 AM
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Awhile back I jokingly asked Lance Carroll on a thread here if I could interest him in a Salmson build, knowing full well that he had a number of other projects planned for the foreseeable future, and that he'd likely decline the opportunity. I wasn't wrong but much to my surprise, MGunns stepped up to the plate and offered to build his in concert with me. Having flapped my gums, it was time to put my money where my mouth was, so I accepted Mark's offer and immediately ordered the kit. And away we go!
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7773-100_zpsfc8b9ffe.jpg)
Rowan and Sabine Broadbent have graciously donated their Salmson decal set #32050 for my project and I will be marking my aircraft as one from 24th Aero Squadron USAS, circa November 1918.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/Salmson-24thAeroSqn-Nov1918_zps8a5bae6e.jpg)
As Mark pointed out to me, the Salmson 9Z water-cooled radial engine was ahead of it's time, so that adds some interest to the project. The following images show the engine under construction, straight OOB, painted in Tamiya colours.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7799-100_zpsd040cc04.jpg)
I had intended to add the spark plug leads but when I dry fit the radiator it was immediately obvious that it completely hid the front of the engine so that none of the leads would be visible. As I lean to only adding detail where it can be seen, I decided against adding them.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7804-100_zpsb2a8c584.jpg)
I weathered the engine as I went along, using various washes and glazes of Lamp Oil and Engine Grease oil paints.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7818-100_zps851df789.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7827-100_zps431d911e.jpg)
WnW have done an exceptional job with this engine. Everything fits like a glove and I think it builds up into a very busy looking piece of machinery.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7830-100_zps1ee18b75.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7834-100_zpse7abad90.jpg)
I have to say I'm a bit disappointed that the radiator completely hides the front of the engine from view. That being the case, I think I'll consider leaving one or more of the engine access panels off so at least a profile view of it can be seen.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7835-100_zpsa303686d.jpg)
Thanks for dropping by for a look.
Cheers,
Chris
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I know that WNW kits are good, but your start so far is just brilliant. Wonderfully realistic colours - it just needs some fuel and those plugs and you could start up this engine! I agree that leaving some of it visible is a must on your model.
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Chris,
Sure didn't take you long to get out of the starting blocks on this one. I like your choice in scheme, lots of colour. The engine looks very nice, especially with the weathering you've done and I agree with leaving a few panels off to keep it from disappearing as well. I'll be following along closely, as this is almost in the category of "maybe I shoulda", and it looks like a great Kit.
Cheers,
Lance
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Hello Chris:
Engine looks great! I have to get into mine. Will keep you posted.
Best
Mark
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You are off to a flying start Chris and the work you have done on the engine is exceptional, I have a feeling that this is the start of something really special.
Des.
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Great start Chris! The engine looks terrific! Looking forward to the rest of the build !
RAGIII
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Nice start. Looking foreword to following.
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Stonking engine build Chris, agree with you idea of leaving a panel off to show of that engine. It would be a great shame to hide all that detail.
Roy
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Brilliant work on the engine, Chris! Very realistic looking. I also agree that some panels should be left off.
Cheers,
Bud
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Great work Chris, and I agree it would be a shame to hide this completely...
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Great start Chris! The engine looks terrific! Looking forward to the rest of the build !
RAGIII
+1. ;D
Cheers,
Bob
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Fantastic work on the engine !
Jacek
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Very deft work on the engine, Chris. I agree that it should not be hidden...leave a panel, or two, off.
I got the Otsu version of the kit and was not aware that there was an "Old Carolina" set of markings in the other boxing. This presents a conundrum: I want to build the Otsu because I grew up in Japan. But, both my parents were born in South Carolina and both sides of the family have been there for centuries. Hmmmm???? I'd build two but, living in a NYC house, space is at a premium.
OK..no worries...decision made.......we'll move. A man has to have his priorities. Now, who will volunteer to tell my Missus?
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Great start Chris! The engine looks terrific! Looking forward to the rest of the build !
RAGIII
+2! Go Get 'em,Chris! ;)
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Starting off on a high note aren't you?
You have always been a good painter but I am amazed at the engines you are producing. Nice thing about the biplane engines is that they have a lot more color variation than something like a Sherman engine does. That is one reason I agree with your idea of opening up a panel or two to show off the engine.... is to bad that the radiator hides the spark plug leads, but I am sure that the rest of the engine will be a gem. Of course, there is always the rest of the build.... especially the cockpit for you to work your magic... ;)
Definitely will be pulling up a chair and settling in to watch both of the builds... :)
Bob
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Hello to all,
A really good paint, I can smell oil and gas. ;)
I like it.
Best regards.
Alain.
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Super job on painting the engine Chris ! Will be following along as this one comes together .
Terri
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Thanks to everyone for your kind comments! As always they're most appreciated, and a real motivator to do the best that I can.
I'll be following along closely, as this is almost in the category of "maybe I shoulda", and it looks like a great Kit.
It's never too late to join in. ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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Much to my good fortune, Rowan Broadbent of Pheon fame has graciously donated a set of his Salmson decals for this project. I haven't decided on which of his USAS marking schemes I'll employ until the package arrives, but I'd like to take this opportunity to publicly thanks Rowan for his generous offer. I'll do my best to showcase them in the manner they deserve.
Until the new decals arrive, I've been keeping busy working away at the cockpit. The fuselage interior is painted in Tamiya Buff and the ribs have been picked out with a brown Sharpie marker. Thanks to MGunns for that suggestion as the marker I was using just wasn't doing the job.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7864-100_zpsfe9914e7.jpg)
The instrument panel was base painted with Tamiya Desert Yellow and treated with Burnt Umber oil paint for the woodgrain effect. The aluminum firewall footwell was painted with Tamiya Aluminum and given a wash of Lamp Black oil paint.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7911-100_zps16a3dfbf.jpg)
I painted the self-sealing fuel tanks with Tamiya Medium Blue, weathered with a Lamp Black oil wash, and dry brushed with Humbrol Light Blue to pick out the fine mesh detail on both ends. The slot in the front face is for the pilot's seat which will follow shortly.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7879-100_zps72e0e6f4.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7880-100_zpscfcaa5af.jpg)
The aluminum floor panels were painted with Tamiya Aluminum followed with a wash of Lamp Oil Black to give a grimy effect.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7870-100_zps6eaacacb.jpg)
These next two images show the Observer's seat, wireless set, and battery.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7882-100_zps56ce47fa.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7881-100_zps75a8b729.jpg)
So this is where I stand at this point. There's still considerable more to be added to the cockpit which will be the subject of a future update.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7874-100_zps725622d4.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7873-100_zpse5e1edcc.jpg)
Thanks for dropping by!
Cheers,
Chris
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The work so far is superb Chris. I thought the engine was great, but this update just builds on that.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Simply wonderful, Chris!
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Nice work on the cockpit...I am enjoying following!
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Starting to look really good Chris. You certainly use that Lamp Black oil paint to good effect, the footwell firewall is brilliant work. Is it going to be visible?
Cheers,
Lance
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Outstanding work on the interior bits, Chris! That instrument panel looks like the real thing.
Cheers,
Bud
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Fantastic start on that interior!!
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Hi Chris:
I think it really looks the business. Your instrument panel and the wash in the footwell bring out well the detail hidden in the recesses. The grimy effect on the floor board is pretty neat as well. I like your wood grain on the observers floor, very nicely done. You are making good progress. Looking forward to your next update.
Best
Mark
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Definitely showing off your skills with a paint job.... I know that compared with yours any cockpit I ever do in the future will feature a tarp tied over it to protect it from the rain... and onlookers. :-[
Definitely a pucker factor sitting suspended off of the fuel tank like that. Of course, that is looking back at them... at the time they were high tech. :o
Will be watching to see how the rest of the cockpit comes together....
Bob
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Outstanding work on the interior bits, Chris! That instrument panel looks like the real thing.
Cheers,
Bud
Got to agree with my Amigo! OUTSTANDING work Chris! The wood grain is AWESOME!!
RAGIII
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You have performed excellent work so far Chris, the interior is looking superb.
Des.
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Hello to all,
I agree with you. Fantastic work inside.
Best regards.
Alain.
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The map you used - is it a decal of some sorts?
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Beautiful interior, Chris ;)
Bring on some more updates!
Cheers,
BVB
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Lovely. Nice to see it unveil, it will be my next project so I am watching your steps with great interest.
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Thanks to everyone who has stopped by for a look-see. As always, I appreciate all of your comments and questions.
Starting to look really good Chris. You certainly use that Lamp Black oil paint to good effect, the footwell firewall is brilliant work. Is it going to be visible?
Frankly Lance, I don't know it it'll be visible or not, but I thought it better to be safe than sorry.
I think it really looks the business. Your instrument panel and the wash in the footwell bring out well the detail hidden in the recesses. The grimy effect on the floor board is pretty neat as well. I like your wood grain on the observers floor, very nicely done. You are making good progress. Looking forward to your next update.
You've saved my bacon already a few times here Mark. I'm lucky that you're also building this kit as you have a better eye for detail than I do. As I tend to fly by the seat of my pants, if you weren't sharing the planning you're doing for your build, I'd have crashed and burned already.
I know that compared with yours any cockpit I ever do in the future will feature a tarp tied over it to protect it from the rain... and onlookers. :-[
Oooo, now this is interesting. Does this mean that we could actually bring you back in the fold Bob? For those of you who have joined here after Bob was drawn back to the Dark Side, he is an amazing scratchbuilder but prefers to restrict his ingenuity and skill to AFVs . . . for the time being that is. ;)
The map you used - is it a decal of some sorts?
Yes it is and it comes with the Salmson kit.
To my eye an ugly aeroplane, but you are making a beautiful job of it - nice work!
Aw c'mon Red! I'll admit that she ain't the belle of the ball but you'll have to admit that she's a lot more attractive than a D.VII. ;) :D
Thanks again for all of your comments!
Cheers,
Chris
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Man, the updates are coming fast and furious now. I started on the cockpit control lines and floor bracing this morning. Mark (MGunns) was instrumental in getting this right as he discovered that the rudder pedal lines routed through notches and narrow holes in the fuel tank feet. I had missed that completely, so a big public thanks for educating me there Mark! I used 0.12 mm 2lb test Maxima monofilament with brass tubing for these lines and painted them with Tamiya Aluminum.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7919-100_zpsf01eacbf.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7921-100_zpse6deab7a.jpg)
The floor panel bracing was made with #8 - 0.2 mm guitar string.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7923-100_zps6ee259e7.jpg)
I've also pretty well completed the pilot's seat. The wooden parts were finished as described above in my earlier update. The seat-back and cushion were primed and then brush painted with Vallejo Leather Belt. Dry brushing, glazes, and washes were applied and then it was sealed with brush painted Vallejo Semi-Gloss.
The paint callout for the seatbelts is semi-gloss green, and specifically Tamiya X-28 Park Green. Okayyyy, I guess these must have been bright green belts because even after applications of dark glazes, that's what we sure have here! Frankly though, it's a welcome departure from the dull greens and khakis we see so often on military equipment. It adds for some colour in the cockpit and will certainly draw the viewer's eye.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7931-100_zps4e00f463.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7929-100_zps85a6b781.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7926-100_zps7dedeeba.jpg)
That's all for today. Thanks for looking in!
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris,
Still clipping along nicely, you are really making progress now. Those seat belts will take a little time to get used to, definitely different! Really great work on the wood grain and your seat is spectacular. Think I'll be taking a serious look at that Vallejo Paint line.
Cheers,
Lance
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Lovely seat Chris! Those belts do take some getting used to! Like you said though, they are a nice change from most colors used.
RAGIII
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Coming along very nicely indeed. Those seat belts though - are you sure they were fluorescent green?!
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I know that compared with yours any cockpit I ever do in the future will feature a tarp tied over it to protect it from the rain... and onlookers. :-[
Oooo, now this is interesting. Does this mean that we could actually bring you back in the fold Bob? For those of you who have joined here after Bob was drawn back to the Dark Side, he is an amazing scratchbuilder but prefers to restrict his ingenuity and skill to AFVs . . . for the time being that is. ;)
Don't bet on it anytime soon..... you know that kit I am on probably has another 6 months or so. And Chris, an "amazing scratchbuilder" wouldn't have to build a pulley assembly 5 times to get it right.... if it works on this try. :o
Just remember that your doing more with paint effects than I am with plastic and brass. The cockpit looks wood and to be honest with you, I wouldn't mind having that pilots seat to sit and read in... but those bright green seat belts would have to go!!! ;)
Carry on....
Bob
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Coming along very nicely indeed. Those seat belts though - are you sure they were fluorescent green?!
That's the colour WnW calls for. That, and being semi-gloss too. While it surprises me, I'm not second guessing them as I'm convinced that they did the research. I may still tone them down a bit though.
Cheers,
Chris
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To my eye an ugly aeroplane, but you are making a beautiful job of it - nice work!
Aw c'mon Red! I'll admit that she ain't the belle of the ball but you'll have to admit that she's a lot more attractive than a D.VII. ;) :D
LOL, I'm with The Baron on this one, the Salmson has always looked ungainly to me, but you sure are bringing out the beauty in it. A lovely build!
Chris
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Looking really sharp so far Chris :) Don't think I have even see green seat belts before . Will add a lot of colour in the pit with the blue tank !
Terri
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That green is ..ähem.. interesting. Did you wear sunglasses while painting, just for protection purposes 8) ?
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That green is ..ähem.. interesting. Did you wear sunglasses while painting, just for protection purposes 8) ?
You got that right! 8) It sure is a departure from the colours we usually see. :o The Humbrol colour match that WnW calls for is #208 Flourescent Signal Green. When I look at a colour chip for it, it virtually matches Tamiya Park Green so there's no doubt in my mind that the colour is supposed to be a very bright green, whether we like it or not. ;D I think we'd all agree that WnW do some pretty exhaustive research for their kits and without any evidence to the contrary, I'll have to take them at their word for this colour choice. While we all have pre-conceived notions about what we expect to see, such as canvas or leather coloured belts, it may not always be the case.
Cheers,
Chris
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Outstanding work on the pit and engine Chris! Your colors have great depth and lustre. Those black oil washes really add a great deal. :D Well done! As for the green seat belts, I rather like them. ;D I trust WNW, and as you've noted, actual colors don't always match our preconceived notions. I think the green belts look both interesting and attractive, but just MHO. ;) Carry on! This is an interesting build. :)
Regards,
Bob
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I somehow missed your build until now, Chris. :-[ ::) I have to say your
paintwork is absolutely stunning! the wood-grain can't get much better.
I will certainly follow your log the rest of the way with thanks for showing
what can be done with your talent...I don't suppose you could lend some
to me? ;D Well done, my friend. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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... I don't suppose you could lend some to me? ;D Well done, my friend. :D
Hey Ernie, I'd appreciate it if you'd send some of your talent my way instead! Frankly, with the level of modelling skill on display here, I need all the help I can get.
Cheers,
Chris
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Frankly, with the level of modelling skill on display here, I need all the help I can get.
Just pretend they are ARVs and you will be fine.... :P
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This morning, I mounted the pilot's seat and the right side cabane assembly for the cockpit. I braced the cabane assembly and ran the right side control lines. The next step will be the left side cabanes, so what the heck, let's post some interior images while it's still visible.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7952-100_zpsd8d397af.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7955-100_zpscea91e34.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7968-100_zpsc7df9ecd.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7970-100_zpscbb2d158.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7971-100_zpsefbe361c.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7984-100_zps3f5698a0.jpg)
The more I look at those green seatbelts, the more they grow on me. I just keep telling myself that. ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris, your wood grain is really superb. I understand the burnt umber oils over desert yellow acrylic, mostly removed with a dry brush, but how do you get the convincing grain pattern and knots? Very realistic! :D
Cheers,
Bob
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.................and how did you do the "plumbing" on the right side and Cabanes? My word Chris, that, along with the wood grain and the work on the rest of the interior details, is absolutely spectacular. You are really excelling on this one!
Cheers,
Lance
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Chris, your wood grain is really superb. I understand the burnt umber oils over desert yellow acrylic, mostly removed with a dry brush, but how do you get the convincing grain pattern and knots? Very realistic! :D
Cheers,
Bob
I use a #9 brush dipped in thinners when I remove my oil paint Bob. I stroke the oils in the direction I want the grain to run and after a few strokes, I wipe the brush on an old towel to remove the oils from the brush. I keep stroking the paint, dipping the brush in thinners regularly to keep the oils easy to manipulate. When it's 'wet', it swirls around much better than when it's thick. Being loaded with thinners, it dries rapidly overnight.
.................and how did you do the "plumbing" on the right side and Cabanes? My word Chris, that, along with the wood grain and the work on the rest of the interior details, is absolutely spectacular. You are really excelling on this one!
Cheers,
Lance
I'm assuming here that you're referring to the bracing and control lines Lance? The bracing is that #8 guitar string material you put me on to. I was able to install it from behind the cabane structure. The lines I just ran down the inside of the wooden frames before I installed the cabane structure. As you see below, the cabane structure is almost all inclusive.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN7867-100_zps8f4603d0.jpg)
Once it's in place, it was easy to add the bracing from behind. From what I've built thus far, the engineering in this kit is superb.
Cheers,
Chris
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Really OUTSTANDING Chris! Your work on the pit is Stunning!
RAGIII
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Chris,
Outstanding cockpit! Your wood painting is especially realistic.
Regards
Dave
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Thanks guys, but in all honesty, I just had some good luck this time around.
Cheers,
Chris
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More like your expertise as a very talented modeler instead of good luck Chris. The work you have done so far is superb, and as others have said your wood grain is exceptional. I have not said anything to date about those seat belts but now that the pit is assembled they look okay and seem to fit in well, it's good to see that huge hole in the front of the fuel tank plugged ;)
I'm really looking forward to seeing more progress on this build Chris, this is going to be one of your best builds yet.
Des.
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Actually Chris it's the metal piping that runs from the right side of the cockpit through some pumps/valves and up to the right forward cabane strut I'm curious about. Is it all one molding or added? If you are running thinned oils over a base coat I'm assuming the base is acrylic? Can you confirm, I tried it over enamel and lifted it last experiment! >:(
Cheers,
Lance
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Actually Chris it's the metal piping that runs from the right side of the cockpit through some pumps/valves and up to the right forward cabane strut I'm curious about. Is it all one molding or added? If you are running thinned oils over a base coat I'm assuming the base is acrylic? Can you confirm, I tried it over enamel and lifted it last experiment! >:(
Cheers,
Lance
Sorry about that Lance. The piping comes moulded on the cabane parts. Have a gander at the image I posted below.
Yep, you need to base coat with acrylics. I use Tamiya Desert Yellow most of the time, although I've used their Buff colour too for a lighter wood effect. As you've discovered, using oils over enamels leads to all sorts of frustration as the thinners just eat through them.
Cheers,
Chris
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Your wood grain is simply beautiful. It looks really convincing. Well done, and I wish you the same amount of luck you had for rigging the left side.
Stefan
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Outstanding so far Chris 8)
Terri
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Your build and painting is outstanding.
Martin
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Hi Chris:
Just getting to the update now. Your wood grain is outstanding. It is interesting to see how you ran the control cables. I will be at the stage shortly. Your pictures are well done and helpful. I like how you did your wiring as well. I think the instructions call out for black, but I like the contrasts with what you have there and it will show up much better than black. This is coming along nicely and soon you will be able to install in the fusealge. I am about two steps behind you on this one.
Best
Mark
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Actually Chris it's the metal piping that runs from the right side of the cockpit through some pumps/valves and up to the right forward cabane strut I'm curious about. Is it all one molding or added? If you are running thinned oils over a base coat I'm assuming the base is acrylic? Can you confirm, I tried it over enamel and lifted it last experiment! >:(
Cheers,
Lance
Sorry about that Lance. The piping comes moulded on the cabane parts. Have a gander at the image I posted below.
Yep, you need to base coat with acrylics. I use Tamiya Desert Yellow most of the time, although I've used their Buff colour too for a lighter wood effect. As you've discovered, using oils over enamels leads to all sorts of frustration as the thinners just eat through them.
Cheers,
Chris
Chris,
In that case I have to say your painting is absolutely top notch, it looks like separately molded additions. VERY nicely done!
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks guys for dropping by and taking the time to post your comments.
I like how you did your wiring as well. I think the instructions call out for black, but I like the contrasts with what you have there and it will show up much better than black.
Thanks Mark. Yes indeed, it was for additional contrast that led me to paint the clips aluminum rather than black. Maybe it's not exactly correct, but it works for me.
In that case I have to say your painting is absolutely top notch, it looks like separately molded additions. VERY nicely done!
It's the flow enhancer that should get the credit Lance. Once you mix in a drop of that to a puddle of acrylic paint, it simply flows off the brush and makes the whole process just so much easier.
Cheers,
Chris
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It's the flow enhancer that should get the credit Lance. Once you mix in a drop of that to a puddle of acrylic paint, it simply flows off the brush and makes the whole process just so much easier.
Ok, that settles it..... Next time I get to the painting stage you and I are going to have to have a long discussion about the How-To's of paint. ::) :o
Also sounds like I am going to have to buy a bit more paint for the weathering process also.... However, that is in the future, and I suspect you will have discovered more tricks of the trade by then. Which means I will benefit big-time.
Outstanding painting and construction in general.
Bob
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I received Pheon's Decal Set 32050 in the mail yesterday, courtesy of Rowan and Sabine Broadbent, and what an excellent set it is. I've decided to employ the following marking scheme for 24th Aero Squadron in November 1918.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/Salmson-24thAeroSqn-Nov1918_zps8a5bae6e.jpg)
My choice is primarily based on the marking on the fuselage side and the underside markings on the lower wings.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/SalmsonMarking_zpsb3926fcc.jpg)
Thanks again to Rowan and Sabine for graciously donating this set for my project.
Cheers,
Chris
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I received Pheon's Decal Set 32050 in the mail yesterday, courtesy of Rowan and Sabine Broadbent, and what an excellent set it is. I've decided to employ the following marking scheme for 24th Aero Squadron in November 1918.
My choice is primarily based on the marking on the fuselage side and the underside markings on the lower wings.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/SalmsonMarking_zpsb3926fcc.jpg)
Thanks again to Rowan and Sabine for graciously donating this set for my project.
Interesting markings..... I can understand the use of the dachshund for Germany but the use of the vulture for the Americans seems a bit odd. I would have expected the eagle instead.... especially considering the common view of the vulture as a carrion eater. (Yes, I know eagles eat carrion also.... but the commonly held view is of them as the noble hunter). ???
Very colorful markings... which continues the trend you have started with your engine and especially the cockpit. There is enough greens on the exterior to go with the seat belts. ;) Overall a very nice looking scheme and an interesting set of decals...
Bob
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Gee, I thought it was an eagle Bob.
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris,
It well might be, but the ring in the white head plumage, along with the lower bunch of white around the shoulders led me to believe it was a vulture... Of course, the gentleman that painted the original image on the side of the aircraft might have been about as good at realistic painting as I am... ::)
However, that was their decision back "in the day".... Doesn't take a bit away from the work that went into producing what appear to be a very nice set of decals. I think you lucked out, my friend.... Although, I know you will do them justice...
Bob
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I now have the cockpit fully assembled. Everything fits perfectly, and at least up to this point, I haven't encountered any tolerance issues during construction.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8035-100_zps4ad3fd5a.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8052-100_zps3bbb9e0a.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8053-100_zps05f3531c.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8047-100_zps0cdfe74b.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8045-100_zps0a96e094.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8060-100_zps0774ed80.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8058-100_zps36d01d36.jpg)
Next step is closing up the fuselage and getting some paint on it.
Thanks for dropping by.
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris,
Your Cockpit is awesome! Absolutely clean and perfect work!
RAGIII
PS: The belts do add a nice color touch !
RAGIII
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Wow! Nice work!
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Chris,
You have really "pulled out the stops" on this Build, your cockpit is spectacular! I'd view that vulture as an eagle as well; I'd say the Tech who painted it probably wasn't familiar with the species, a little short on artistic talent, and inadvertently added a few details that indicate a less noble symbol then intended. The choice of colour scheme is really nice, those greens are going to be completely different, no PC10 "Blah" here!
Looking forward to seeing more.
Cheers,
Lance
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This cockpit was a very great build.
Martin
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Truly stunning cockpit, Chris! Flawless assembly and nice, crisp painting. I think the green is perfect for the belts. It is a French design, after all.
Cheers,
Bud
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Superb Chris. This is such an inspiration.
Best wishes
Nigel
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That cockpit is a keeper, Chris! Nice work!! ;)
vB
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Very nice. I have been itching to build this and your work is making it very difficult to wait. Love it.
James
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Chris, this looks fantastic. "Cockpit p*rn" at its finest!
Chris
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Thanks to all of you who have dropped by and taken time to post your comments. You guys keep me motivated!
. . . I think the green is perfect for the belts. It is a French design, after all.
That's what I like about you Bud. Your taste is impeccable! ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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It's been almost a month since my last update, but I've been slowly working away at the project. I found that the cockpit assembly fits like a glove in the fuselage and there was only a dab of filler required on the seam just behind the observer's station.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8063-100_zps05270234.jpg)
The cockpit combing is a tight fit around the cabane struts and it poses some problems for painting. I decided to paint it separately and then glue it into place on the fuselage. Note that the image below shows it dry fitted and the yawning gaps alongside the observer's station disappear completely with only just a bit of finger pressure applied when the part is glued in place .
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8066-100_zpsb78d6641.jpg)
With the fuselage buttoned up, it was time to glue the engine/radiator/combing assembly in place and it was here that I ran into some difficulty. When I mounted the engine assembly on the engine bearers it came to light that the slot in the radiator cowling for the radiator header tank was rotated away from its 12:00 o'clock position. I traced the problem to the installation of the intake pipes which obviously weren't in the proper orientation. When I installed them, they fit perfectly, so it's clear to me now that I shouldn't have built the engine out of sequence with the instructions. It should be built after the cockpit assembly so the builder can check the orientation on the engine bearers as he progresses. I was able to remove the engine mounting plate and with some minor surgery, I successfully rotated it into the proper orientation, and now everything fits fine. Whew!
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/SalmsonEngineMountingPlate_zps024e9b42.jpg)
Moving right along, I decided to change my marking scheme yet again, to one of Pheon's more colourful schemes, as shown below.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/88thAeroSqn-PheonMarkings_zpsd94b070d.jpg)
I can be a slave to convention at times so I followed the standard practise of painting light colours first, ending up with the darkest last. That meant that I had to cut out an internal mask for the dark grey blob on the right wing. I fought with that several times and just couldn't get a result I was happy with. I stripped and re-painted the top wing four times until I was happy. Okay, I'm stubborn too! ;D Away I went and applied the Pheon decals. They went on perfectly and looked superb.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8083-100_zpsc612b28e.jpg)
And then disaster struck. I had idiotically forgotten to paint two stripes on the centre section of the wings, so I masked off the wings and shot them. Along the way, I inadvertently and carelessly allowed the masking tape to cover two decals and when removing it, I partially lifted both, ruining them completely. Note how the tape also pulled up some of the sealer too. Arrrrgh!
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8149-100-002_zps119bbf78.jpg)
There was nothing else to do but strip the wing again and start all over for the fifth time. Luckliy for me, Rowan graciously replaced the decals so that this project can continue. You're the best Rowan!
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/Untitled-2_zps5208e089.jpg)
That's Jenny, my Brittany helper, who is taking a keen interest in stripping the wing. The way she looks at me at times, I'm sure she's losing confidence in my abilities. :-[ No matter how I manage to shoot myself in the foot though, she's right there with me offering her support.
Cheers,
Chris
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Goodness me, Chris, you've had trials and tribulations, but your commentary is really helpful and this is going to be one heck of a build. Fifth time lucky will be testimony for your determination to get things spot-on. Fingers crossed.
Best wishes
Nigel
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What a shame, Chris! That wing was looking so good. Oh well, I know that with your extraordinary skills and Jenny's help, you'll be back on track in no time. Another scheme change, then?
Cheers,
Bud
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Fine progress, Chris. Your Salmson will be a beauty, I am sure.
Masking the decals is always risky, great to have Rowan around ready to reach the helping hand. :)
And thanks for the heads up regarding the engine. I am following your steps and all the info you should give is invaluable. However, I rather stick to the sequence WNW suggest, only interwoven with airbrushing sessions. ;)
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Chris, Your wing was/is looking awesome! Sometimes the beauty of these build logs is that all of us learn to overcome difficulty... be it self created or otherwise ;)
RAGIII
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The tribulations you have experienced are but a mere bump in the road for such a talented modeler as yourself, the road ahead is smooth with all your troubles now left behind in the dust.
Des
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man this thing is looking great chris. the cockpit looks immaculate.
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Well done, Chris.
Your patience will pay dividends I'm sure.
Keep going.
Vb
P.S. That Rowan bloke is a good egg. We need more like him ;)
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Great work, Chris! You are tackling one of my favourites. Following you eagerly and learning a lot: Richard
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Chris,
Definitely the most aggravation I have ever seen you go through with any model. However, as I have said, when this one is finished it will be a beautiful model. Besides, if you hit a snag I am sure that Jenny will be more than happy to finish it for you... ;D :o
Ok, carry on....
Bob
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Excellent and most helpful build, Chris. I applaud your perseverance and your attention to detail is mind-bending.
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Chris, despite the ups and downs, your Salmson is really
a stunner. I am in awe of your interior work, especially
the beautiful wood painting. Your difficulties show that
sometimes even the best can goof and that is really
encouraging for me. ;) ;D The encouraging part is how
well you recover them. I hope I didn't put my foot in my
mouth trying to get that across. Sometimes I only open
my mouth to change feet. ;D Great job, my friend. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thanks to one and all for dropping by and posting your comments. I know I've been slow as molasses with this project, but I plan to have another update ready in the next few days. I just now found PrzemoL's build log for his Salmson and I can already see that his will be the definitive build so drop by to see what amazing work he's doing.
Cheers,
Chris
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While having my fair share of problems with the top wing, all self inflicted, I've made good progress with the fuselage. It's painted with Tamiya acrylics mixed as per the WnW instructions. Following a brushed on coat of Future, Pheon's decals snuggled down like a second skin. The wear and tear on the engine cowls was applied using a small bit of foam dipped in Tamiya's Flat Aluminum, and dabbed about haphazardly along the panel edges. After clear coating with Vallejo's Satin, I applied dark brown and grimy black oil glazes which were then rubbed into the finish with my index finger to give what I hope looks like a well worn appearance.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8251-100_zps54f36cc1.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8256-100_zpsc9cfd67f.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8264-100_zps91637299.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8263-100_zps050f87f2.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8255-100_zpsa3b5292c.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8253-100_zpsd53bf13a.jpg)
Thanks for dropping by!
Cheers,
Chris
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Wow...that's a lot of airplane! This is looking great, Chris. I think the work on the cowling is super...the combination of the foam and fingertip seem to have given it a convincing but not over done look.
Looking forward to more.
Happy Halloween from NYC,
Michael
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Your overall paint work is exceptional, Chris, but your rendering of the metal panels is phenomenal! Thanks for explaining how you did it. You AFV guys sure do bring a lot of exciting techniques to the table.
Cheers,
Bud
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Wow...that's a lot of airplane! This is looking great, Chris. I think the work on the cowling is super...the combination of the foam and fingertip seem to have given it a convincing but not over done look.
Looking forward to more.
+1. The fuselage looks great Chris! I love the chipping, weathering and very nice colors. Well done!
Cheers,
Bob
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WOW Chris! The paint work and in particular the worn metal is OUTSTANDING to say the least! I am VERY IMPRESSED!
RAGIII
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You AFV guys sure do bring a lot of exciting techniques to the table.
Amen to that! And the figure guys!!
Michael
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I like the way you have slightly darkened the metal surfaces - looks great!
Well done, Chris ;)
vB
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The paint and weathering are superb, Chris! Thank you
for explaining how you did the wear & tear...perfect!
Looking forward to more updates. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Yep! Perfect score on the wear and chipping Chris, just right. The colours are very eye catching as well. This will be a really outstanding Model when completed, your best to date.
Cheers,
Lance
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Lovely painting.
Martin
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Thanks for all of your support guys. You keep me motivated to do the best that I can. Today, it's just a small update showing the undercarriage. It's all painted in Tamiya Desert Yellow while the rubber tires are hand painted with Tamiya German Grey. WnW provides both weighted tires and the fully round ones. I chose to use the weighted ones. I sealed everything with Vallejo Satin followed by a wash of Raw Umber oil paint. Finally, I dry brushed the raised lettering on the tires with Humbrol Matt Pale Stone. The eyelets are also installed so all I have left to do is add the monofilament line and brass tubing.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8270-100_zps3f4e361f.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8271-100_zpsacbd5cf6.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8277-100_zpsf8682cd8.jpg)
Thanks for looking in!
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris it looks fantastic.
Martin
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You have done a great job with the undercarriage Chris, the painting and weathering is superb.
Des.
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Super work Cris.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Looks real! Great job Chris. ;D
Cheers,
Bob
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Really lovely, Chris.
Chris
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Great job of the undercarriage, Chris. I really like the dirty bits around the
edges of the wheel covers. Is that done with oils?
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Your gear looks terrific Chris! I am glad to see that weighted tires don't equate to "FLAT" like in so many models!
RAGIII
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Great job of the undercarriage, Chris. I really like the dirty bits around the
edges of the wheel covers. Is that done with oils?
It was Ernie. I used Raw Umber mixed to a watery consistency with cheap, run of the mill hardware store paint thinner. I always lay it over a satin finish with a wide brush and I use satin so it flows more evenly than if you used a flat sealer. If I apply too much, I soak it up with a clean brush and move the rest around until I'm happy with the result. Don't forget to always do wheels lying flat on the bench.
Your gear looks terrific Chris! I am glad to see that weighted tires don't equate to "FLAT" like in so many models!
Here's a better shot with the undercart dry fitted Rick. I think these tires look exactly the way they should. Personally, I think WnW did an excellent job with them.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8282-100-no-text_zpscd45c670.jpg)
Cheers,
Chris
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I think these tires look exactly the way they should. Personally, I think WnW did an excellent job with them.
I think those are some of the best "weighted" tires I've seen, including many resin aftermarket pieces.
Your build continues to impress.
Chris
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I'll up the ante on Chris' statement: it continues to impress and inspire. You've made me decide to drop "work" for the day, pour another cuppa, and get to the model bench.
Thanks!
Michael
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Those weighted tyres look very realistic - i think they are valuable parts to achieve a certain level of "that is an aircraft, albeit a small one", instead of "that is a toy, but a painted toy".
Stefan
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Hi Chris:
Just getting to this now, it is looking good. The chipping, the weathering the decal and paint work all outstanding. I especially like your rendering of the weighted tires and the subtle weathering bringing out the letters. I wasn't going to use the weighted tires, but I have changed my mind. Looking good!
Best
Mark
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Very nice update.
Martin
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Thanks to one and all for dropping by and posting your comments. You guys are the best!
I finally managed to finish the wings, thanks to the replacement set of decals Rowan so graciously sent me. You may or may not remember earlier on where I mentioned that when I fouled up the original Pheon number '12' decal, I also pulled off one of the T.S.F decals from the WnW set. Rather than ordering a replacement sheet, I elected to make my own on the computer. I wasn't able to match the font exactly with the ones I have on my computer, but 'Times New Roman' is close enough for me. I printed them out on clear decal paper on my inkjet computer and after letting them fully dry overnight, I coated them with Microscale's 'Liquid Decal Film', and added them to the top wing.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8231-100_zps1c922582.jpg)
After satin coating the wings and tailplane, I post-shaded them with Mig Productions 'Old Rust' pigment. I painted the rudder rather than using the decals provided and elected not to post shade it. With the post-shading completed, I treated everything to a couple of glazes of Burnt Umber oil paint to give them a grungy, mottled, well worn appearance.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8273-100_zps77254042.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8233-100_zps35a7cd62.jpg)
Next step was to add all of the remaining small parts to the fuselage. In Step #6, WnW instructs the modeller to drill a 0.5 mm hole in part #F4 to receive the pilot's Gun Sight (#P3). The placement of this hole is rather vague and I recommend that you dry fit #A35 (Radiator Header Tank and Water Pipe) before drilling to prevent fouling the sight. If the hole isn't far enough to the right, placement of the sight will be either completely obstructed by #A35, or canted to the right, rather than perpendicular.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8294-100_zpse7d92218.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8303-100_zpsf0e4e0dc.jpg)
At this point, just for fun, I dry fit the various components to the fuselage and as you can see below, she's going to be a good sized model.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8298-100_zps8de7ffb6.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8299-100_zps3dc43d13.jpg)
Thanks for looking!
Cheers,
Chris
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Oh-my , now that is gorgeous Chris ! :)
Terri
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Wow! Looking real good Chris. That camo really pops! :D. Great finish!
Cheers,
Bob
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She is looking spectacular Chris, the camo colours are excellent and your attention to detail is superb.
Des.
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Fantastic looking build.
Martin
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Chris,
That is just superb; the close up of the front end says it all. Great paint work, incredibly realistic chipping and wear, and clean detail all over. Last, a really eye catching scheme to set it off. You've really hit this one over the fence, and you're not even done yet!
Cheers,
Lance
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Chris,
This is certainly ranking amongst your best to date, and that is saying a lot! Beautiful shading on the wings and the overall look of the kit is just plain GORGEOUS! I am completely in Awe of this one! I am actually moving this kit way up on my WNW want list because of your build.
RAGIII
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Thanks for your generous comments gang!
I am actually moving this kit way up on my WNW want list because of your build.
I hope you do build the kit Rick. Thus far, I'm finding it to be a well engineered model with only a couple of pitfalls to watch for along the way, as alluded to in my log. In my humble opinion, the Salmson's lines are more graceful than most other two-seater of the period, it has an eye catching colour and marking scheme, the double rigging provides a degree of challenge, it boasts well executed weighted wheels, and a complex engine. All of this should appeal to our crowd but she just doesn't get the attention she deserves.
Cheers,
Chris
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Stunning work, Chris! I'll have to start my Gaspatch 2A2 (as soon as I clear my bench of the other 6 builds currently filling the space).
Cheers,
Bud
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I'll have to start my Gaspatch 2A2 (as soon as I clear my bench of the other 6 builds currently filling the space).
I'm looking forward to that Bud. I've read good things about that kit and in your hands, it's sure to be a winner. It'll be interesting to see how the two companies approach their kits and I especially look forward to seeing you work your 'magic' with the double rigged cabanes in the smaller scale. With PrzemoL, MGunns, Rick, and me building Salmson's, maybe she is starting to get the attention she deserves.
Cheers,
Chris
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She's looking just wonderful, Chris! Your talents are evident
in the paint and attention to detail. I am looking forward to the
next updates. Beautiful work, my friend. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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I can only echo the other comments and say that what you are doing with this kit is fantastic - love the scheme, weathering and detail you have done...
You mentioned applying an oil glaze to weather it - can you please give more details on that technique? Is that similar to a pin wash?
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A good sized model and a most beautiful model at that!
Well Done, Chris!
VB
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Fantastic looking Salmson Chris. Well done!
Tom
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A beautiful job so far on a beautiful bird Chris. I'm really happy for all of you 1/32nd scale guys, y'all are in tall cotton these days to be sure.
Warren
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Really, really nice work, Chris!
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Chris, I believe all the adjectives have already been used....so I'll add a verb: it is invigorating to watch this build progress. As, I am worn out from three long weeks of work and a trip, but looking through these recent images makes me want to pour another cup of coffee and take a couple of days at the bench!
Thanks for the shot of styrene B-12!
Cheers from NYC,
MIchael
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Fantastic work. Just gorgeous.
James
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Chris,
Unlike you, I have never really taken to the Salmson's looks, perhaps because I do like my WWI aircraft to be a bit ungainly... gives me that sense of "holy cow, men went up in that thing?! and took fire?!!"... but the builds you and the other Salmsonians have underway have definitely left a favorable impression.
Your Salmson looks great, and I always enjoy seeing your work.
Chris
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Okay gang, time for another one of my irregular updates. With all of the fiddly fuselage parts in place, it was time to rig the cabanes. First though, I installed some 0.25 mm (0.10") lead wire for the antenna leads that run up the cabanes and attach to the underside of the top wing. These may be a bit large in diameter, but when I used narrower gauge wire, every time I tried to add a bend, it would pop right off the cabane. For me at least, lead wire is very flexible and doesn't stress the glue joint when bending the free ends. More accomplished modellers here won't have the same difficulty as I do, but I know when to accept defeat. :-[
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8310-100_zps1d13695d.jpg)
As the Salmson's cabanes are double rigged, very stout, and therefore don't require the bracing strength of monofilament rigging, I decided to try EZ Line for this job. I've never used it before but I found that I was able to double thread it through 0.5 mm tubing turnbuckles, which was a major accomplishment for me. Two fine tweezers and an optivisor were indispensable for the task.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8313-100_zpsd1bbf2c2.jpg)
If I were ever to build this kit again, I wouldn't glue up the top wing before installation. Instead, I would rig the centre section to the cabanes first as it would allow for easier access and then I'd install the outer wings. Oh well, I'm used to doing things the hard way. I was more or less happy with the end result, although I found that in several instances I had applied too much tension to the line when making the final connection. That resulted in the first turnbuckle pulling away from its eyelet. I was also a bit sloppy with the CA on a couple of occasions and I ended up with several overly long tail end cuts.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8330-100_zpsf36985bc.jpg)
The biggest problem I encountered with EZ Line though was that I couldn't paint it silver. I tried a silver Sharpie, thinned Tamiya Aluminum, and finally, thinned Mr. Color Silver and all I accomplished was a total mess. There was nothing for it but to remove the EZ Line and replace it with monofilament.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/DSCN8333-100_zps1a7f8a6a.jpg)
I used my standard Maxima Chameleon 0.12 mm monofilament and painted it with thinned Mr. Color Silver lacquer. As the cabanes are double rigged, and space to work is at a premium, I painted each line as I installed it. I also made the final connections of the antennas to the underside of the top wing. I need to clean them up a bit yet but right now, I'm fed up with them as all they do is break away from the cabanes. >:(
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/DSCN8336-100_zps6a5892aa.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/DSCN8342-100_zps88fa5d07.jpg)
Next in line is to add the lower wings and interplane struts. Each strut bears five blue fabric stripes and while WnW provides decals for them, I wasn't having any of that as I don't have the dexterity for it. Mark (MGunns) suggested using painter's tape and it was an excellent idea as the tape has a bit of a fabric texture. Once they were installed on all eight struts (40 strips of @#$% tape!) I touched each one with a drop of CA to fix them in place.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8191-100_zps4400378a.jpg)
Thanks for looking in!
Cheers,
Chris
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Nice work (and lovely photography) Chris!
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Lovely work Chris, I may just crack open my kit now I have about completed my d.vii
Re painting EZ line I use Vallejo model air metallics, they are very thin and don't "glob" up like other paints.
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Re painting EZ line I use Vallejo model air metallics, they are very thin and don't "glob" up like other paints.
Thanks for the tip gcn. Do you thin them at all for brushing?
Cheers,
Chris
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Lovely work with the cabane rigging Chris, pity you had to do it twice. I have never had any joy with EZ line so will stay with my tried and trusted monofilament.
The tape on the struts worked out really well, the wood effect on the strut is excellent.
Des.
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Re painting EZ line I use Vallejo model air metallics, they are very thin and don't "glob" up like other paints.
Thanks for the tip gcn. Do you thin them at all for brushing?
Cheers,
Chris
Nope, straight from the bottle. I use them for all my brushing. However I've tried the model Color metallics and I struggle with them.
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Wounderful rigging and painting.
Martin
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Chris,
Awesome work on the cabanes and the fabric on the interplane struts! Your work on this one is, as I said before, inspiring!
RAGIII
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Chris,
Nice thing about the cabanes being so solid is that you had the stability to be able to do the rigging twice without issues with the wing shifting around. Although it is definitely a pain in the nether regions to have to work in such small confines..... :o :P
However, as usual you pulled it off and made it look simple. ;) You sure you don't want to finish that cannon of mine? ;D
Carry On Flying*.....
Bob :o
* (one movie they missed... although they almost made it in 1962)
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Spectacular, Chris. Your buildlog is a mine of real gem-like info pieces I will gladly use when I will get as far with my build.Thanks for marking the track!
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The biggest problem I encountered with EZ Line though was that I couldn't paint it silver. I tried a silver Sharpie, thinned Tamiya Aluminum, and finally, thinned Mr. Color Silver and all I accomplished was a total mess. There was nothing for it but to remove the EZ Line and replace it with monofilament.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/DSCN8333-100_zps1a7f8a6a.jpg)
I used my standard Maxima Chameleon 0.12 mm monofilament and painted it with thinned Mr. Color Silver lacquer. As the cabanes are double rigged, and space to work is at a premium, I painted each line as I installed it. I also made the final connections of the antennas to the underside of the top wing. I need to clean them up a bit yet but right now, I'm fed up with them as all they do is break away from the cabanes. >:(
Cheers,
Chris
Hi Chris
Have you tried using rub n buff for colouring the E Z line ? Works well on nylon only thing is is to let it dry as it can smudge while drying.
Cheers
Andrew
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Nice work (and lovely photography) Chris!
And thanks for the tutorial and inspiration!
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Chris,
1st try or 2nd, the results look great. Thanks for taking the time to post such excellent pictures and explanations. As always, your build looks fantastic.
Chris
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Your woodwork is brilliant. While reading your last update, i kept thinking "what is this guy talking about? Pulled eyelets? Overly long cuts? I can't see anything" - but in the end you revealed that you switched to monofilament. I think your rigging is done very well.
I do not like the red heart's transparency - but that is a problem of that decal, not of your modelling skills.
Stefan
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Great update, Chris! That is some nice work on the double
rigging on the Cabanes, my friend. Your builds are such a joy
to follow and full of useful tidbits, like the tape. Nifty! :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Really beautiful and most interesting!
Richard, yours true follower
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It's been a while since I've been here and by the looks of this build I can say missed out. Your work on this this is awesome to say the least. The rigging work is top notch. ;)
Mike
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Just a small update today. I've got the upper wing pre-rigged, struts added and the two lower wings installed. Even without rigging, the structural integrity is excellent. The lines are all Maxima monofilament. Luckily, everything went well aside from a couple of the pins on the tops of the struts. They're very fragile and exerting too much pressure with the hobby knife while scraping off excess paint can fracture them. With double flying and landing lines, there's a good number of lines to deal with.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8346-100_zpsc9aa35a8.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8351-100_zps1358ff4c.jpg)
Till next time!
Cheers,
Chris
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This is looking great, Chris.....and reminds me of the time I watched a crop duster dropping cotton seed in Louisiana.....little dark streams coming out from behind a Grumman Ag Cat.
This American roundels look especially fine against the camo.
Continued success with the build...I watch eagerly.
Michael
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Turning out to be another winner.
Chris, with hindsight if you were putting on all the cowls would you even bother painting the engine. Reason I ask is I've just started cutting plastic and I'm tempted to take a very short cut with the engine. It's a shame as its a really good engine but I just don't fancy the side view for all the effort.
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Chris, with hindsight if you were putting on all the cowls would you even bother painting the engine. Reason I ask is I've just started cutting plastic and I'm tempted to take a very short cut with the engine. It's a shame as its a really good engine but I just don't fancy the side view for all the effort.
I never tried fitting all of the cowl panels gcn but from what I can see, none of the engine will be visible if you add them all. It would definitely cut down on the workload.
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris,
With each update you are giving me another opportunity to see just how impressive your paint work on this one is! Looking forward to seeing it rigged!
RAGIII
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Ok, now my head hurts... :'(
That is one heck of a lot of rigging lines. However, after your work in the mid section of the wing I am sure that you are up to the challenge. And better you than I.... ;D
Bob :o
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Great to see all the rigging lines laid out ready for fitment, looking forward to seeing these lines all set-up in their appropriate positions.
Des.
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Have fun with all the rigging lines. And good luck - you wouldn't be overly happy to have the second to last eyelet being pulled, i think...
Stefan
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Love that camo, Chris - sweet!
Good luck with the rigging ;)
vB
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Very nice and fine update Chris.
Martin
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Love that camo, Chris - sweet!
Good luck with the rigging ;)
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+1. ;D. She looks fabulous Chris!
Cheers,
Bob
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Excellent progress, makes me want to start one of those immediately
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Turning out to be another winner.
Chris, with hindsight if you were putting on all the cowls would you even bother painting the engine. Reason I ask is I've just started cutting plastic and I'm tempted to take a very short cut with the engine. It's a shame as its a really good engine but I just don't fancy the side view for all the effort.
Not to steal the thread, but; If you put the cowl panels, nothing of the engine is visible.
Mark
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Thanks everyone for dropping by and posting your comments. I just finished rigging the wings with double flying and landing lines so there was lots to do in that regard. As always with double bays, I work from the inner to the outer, alternating from side to side to keep everything true. Luckily, none of my eyelets failed so I didn't encounter any issues along the way whatsoever. All that's left to do are the upper and lower drag lines which you can see hanging loosely if you look closely. I'll leave them to the end as they'll just get in the way when handling the model. I painted the lines with thinned Mr. Color Silver lacquer paint which always works well with monofilament. On to the tail assembly next.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8357-100_zpse9d3b42c.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8360-100_zps249e9a0c.jpg)
Thanks for dropping by!
Cheers,
Chris
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Rig-tastic!
Well done, Chris!!
VB
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Absolutely gorgeous! :)
I know that this one has fought you pretty hard but I also notice that is has not fought you to a stand-still. As usual, you have plowed through the adversity and are ending up with a beautiful model. Don't rush it now.....
Later, Bob :o
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Very great rigging Chris.
Martin
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Wow, Chris! The rigging is just so crisp looking. Very inspiring!!
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Hello to all,
Very nice (and efficient) rigging !! :D :D
Best regards.
Alain.
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Lovely work, Chris -
Great camo colours
Regards
Dave
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Beautiful Chris! ;D
Cheers & huzzas,
Bob
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In a word Chris, perfect. The rigging is absolutely gorgeous and the colour is spot on, very well done on what is turning out to be a wonderful looking model.
Des.
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Chris , wonderful job on the rigging ! 8)
Terri
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Geez guys, a fellow could get a swelled head with all of these positive comments. ;D Rest assured that my feet are planted firmly on the ground though. I always approach these rigged aircraft as being just one small step away from total disaster.
Rig-tastic!
LMAO!!
Cheers,
Chris
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Truth be told, that was exactly the phrase (well, translated, of course), Luciano Pavarotti used to describe singing high notes. "Like being on a tight rope or high wire." An analogy which make it even closer to rigging!
And I'd say you have it well balanced, Chris!
Cheers from NYC,
MoS
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Sweet as.... a sweet thing! ;D
Keith
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Wow Chris, you've been busy! It's really starting to come together now, and it's going to be a real eye grabber! The rigging is looking absolutely spectacular.
Cheers,
Lance
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.... I always approach these rigged aircraft as being just one small step away from total disaster.
Seem to remember a couple mud crawling beasties that you would have said the same thing about, and yet, you always pull it out in the end. Have seen you take that step towards disaster, dive head long toward the ground only to pull out close enough you end up with daisies in your teeth.... so to speak modeling wise. I don't see this one being any different..... as long as you keep missing the ground.....
Bob :o
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Chris,
Just an ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC job in the rigging! Stunning results!
RAGIII
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The rigging is excellent, as is the rest of this model, Chris.
Are you going to attempt to put slats on the double wires?
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Really great, neatly done rigging, Chris. Beautiful work!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Excellent work, superb paint and beautiful rigging. You made a first classe Salmson
Dric
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Are you going to attempt to put slats on the double wires?
I've been toying with the idea Bo but frankly, I'm not at all sure that I can pull it off. Any and all suggestions on how to approach the job are most welcome.
Cheers,
Chris
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I always approach these rigged aircraft as being just one small step away from total disaster.
Well, no sooner did I say that than a major mistake identified by PrzemoL came to light. Luckily for me, he's been following my build and he noticed that I had painted the tailplane improperly by including a colour that wasn't actually there.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8363-100_zps53340aec.jpg)
When you look at the colour scheme in the instruction booklet, you can see that I misinterpreted what must be a shadow from the rudder as being a camouflage colour.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/SalmsonInstructions_zpsed790a1b.jpg)
In defence of WnW, there is no colour call-out for that colour patch and it overlaps the black patch, so hindsight being 20/20, now it jumps right out at me as a shadow. However, to simplify things for boobs like me, I'd prefer to see simple drawings which only show the camouflage colours so there's absolutely no doubt what is required.
There was nothing for it but to head back to the windshield washer dunk tank to strip off the finish and start all over again. Unfortunately though, it was just too much for my assistant Jenny.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8367-100_zps177c967b.jpg)
This time I think I have it right and I'm ready to move forward again.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8370-100_zpsc52ef9e7.jpg)
Thanks for taking the time to let me know about my mistake PrzemoL. It's not easy to bring a problem to the attention of another modeller but I sure do appreciate the fact that you did, as it enabled me to fix it before it was too late.
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris, now I can breathe deeply and sleep quietly. I am relieved to see that my inquisitiveness led to a happy final. Your repair went perfectly! Glad to see it!
But it is interesting how the WNW instructions for their both versions of Salmson models differ in this respect. If you look into the French/Japanese kit instruction and the French colour schemes you will see that there is a double indication for the colour "k" on the right hand side tailplane, pointing at the shaded and not shaded areas! Pity they missed it in the American version.
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Glad to see that Jenny is taking it in her stride...... ;D ::) :P
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Are you going to attempt to put slats on the double wires?
I've been toying with the idea Bo
Can someone please tell the new guy (me) what you're referring to as "slats".
I also applaud your determination to Get It Right, Chris. Hell, I'd have just rubbed some dirt on it, as they say in Football.
Cheers,
Michael
PS Glad the pooch is happy!
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Similar to those on this Nieuport 28. Doubled flying wires have a thin piece of wood placed between them usually secured with fabric tape.
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Similar to those on this Nieuport 28. Doubled flying wires have a thin piece of wood placed between them usually secured with fabric tape.
This is going to be a challenge to be represented, I will be watching with interest, how are you going to manage it and steal the idea later on!
Best regards,
Sasho
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Similar to those on this Nieuport 28. Doubled flying wires have a thin piece of wood placed between them usually secured with fabric tape.
This is going to be a challenge to be represented, I will be watching with interest, how are you going to manage it and steal the idea later on!
Best regards,
Sasho
I had a friend who did this on a 1/72nd scale SPAD, you can do it! ;) :D ;D
Warren
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Similar to those on this Nieuport 28. Doubled flying wires have a thin piece of wood placed between them usually secured with fabric tape.
This is going to be a challenge to be represented, I will be watching with interest, how are you going to manage it and steal the idea later on!
Best regards,
Sasho
I had a friend who did this on a 1/72nd scale SPAD, you can do it! ;) :D ;D
Warren
I see the push is to do the slats. However, to balance the scale a bit I did some counting. There are 40 archive photos on the WnW site, 27 of them show the rigging well enough that I could figure out if they had the slats or not. Now, I will admit that I did not try to determine if the photos were of the same aircraft. The thing is that 15 showed the slats and 12 didn't.... so it would appear that you have a good chance of being right whichever you decide.
The other thing that I noticed is that when there was no slat there was a pin at the intersection of the rigging that would work to separate the various wires. So, if you decide not to show the slats I would think that you could show the pins fairly easily.
The thing is that I would almost think it would be a lot easier to do the slats before you do the rigging by making the slats/rigging as one piece and using the eyelets/turnbuckles to adjust them into place and tension. On the other hand, I have only built one biplane and it didn't have doubled wires.... so what do I know?
Bob :o
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I see the push is to do the slats. However, to balance the scale a bit I did some counting. There are 40 archive photos on the WnW site, 27 of them show the rigging well enough that I could figure out if they had the slats or not. Now, I will admit that I did not try to determine if the photos were of the same aircraft. The thing is that 15 showed the slats and 12 didn't.... so it would appear that you have a good chance of being right whichever you decide.
The other thing that I noticed is that when there was no slat there was a pin at the intersection of the rigging that would work to separate the various wires. So, if you decide not to show the slats I would think that you could show the pins fairly easily.
The thing is that I would almost think it would be a lot easier to do the slats before you do the rigging by making the slats/rigging as one piece and using the eyelets/turnbuckles to adjust them into place and tension. On the other hand, I have only built one biplane and it didn't have doubled wires.... so what do I know?
Bob :o
The point is, Bob, that there were two versions of rigging on Salmsons. Early examples had the wing cellule rigged with double wires (both landing and flying) and these had slats. Late version was double flying wires, single landing wires. These had no slats but had those drop-shaped spacers at the crossing points. The aircraft Chris is modelling had the earlier version...
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The point is, Bob, that there were two versions of rigging on Salmsons. Early examples had the wing cellule rigged with double wires (both landing and flying) and these had slats. Late version was double flying wires, single landing wires. These had no slats but had those drop-shaped spacers at the crossing points. The aircraft Chris is modelling had the earlier version...
I will concede that you are probably right. However, I see it coming down to two points....
First, is there some indication in the decal sheets -- as he used non-kit decals -- that would give someone that information? In my case, I have lots of books with details about Panzer III's but basically nothing about WWI aircraft, so if I were to build this I would be doing it from the kit instructions.....
Second, I believe that there is a point where you don't sweat the small stuff and do what you feel comfortable with. However, this is a personal choice and I don't second guess the way others build..... I just enjoy the photos. But then I am a firm believer if painting it pink with Hello Kitty stickers makes you happy with your model.... then my only question is what shade of pink are you going to use?
I am not arguing against putting as much detail as you can in your models.... I have over a year in my present model and figure on at least another one before it is done.... I am just saying that while it might be correct to do something (such as the slats) if you don't feel comfortable then don't. However, I do believe that yourself and others have offered very valid constructive criticism/suggestions and as such should be applauded. Receiving helpful comments along the way is definitely one of the benefits of posting your builds to a community of people that share your interests and do so in a friendly manner..... and this is one of the best forums I have read in that regard...
Just my 2 cents.... however, the more important questions are..... Will Chris put the slats on the aircraft? and just how the heck will he accomplish it if he does?
Bob :o
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On one hand there's:
"Camelot!
Camelot!
CAMELOT!
It's only a model." (apologies to the MP fans)
Then there's: "It's your model, you paid for it, and it's your time going into it. You do it up in the manner that suits you."
You know one reason I have over five half-finished models on the shelf? I hit a snag where my desire for everything being right conflicted with my talent and skill set. I approached my model building the same way I did my reenacting: every single thing had to be "just so".
At some point, compromise may be the only alternative.
Just my two kopecks,
Warren
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You know one reason I have over five half-finished models on the shelf?
Only five!!???!!! :)
Wish I could say that.... add a zero to that and I might be approaching that. Oh well, I have fun and 50 years from now who will know? ;)
Bob :o
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The wood filled wires if done well certainly add realism and would be terrific. There was a thread in the hints and tips section, also covered in a Nieuport 28 build. I think the final solution was using decal cut to length and just wide enough to wrap around the wires. Personally I opted not to on my 28 because I felt like it was just as likely I would FUBAR my rigging. So I am sort of with Bob on this. Only You can decide. I think your rigging is awesome as is, as I stated earlier.
RAGIII
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Bob,
I have to confess to not having hit a lick at a snake since 2006. I quit my job to go to grad school and get my teacher's license. (BIG mistake, but that's another story for another time.) In any event, teaching has kept me so busy since then that everything has lain dormant, but I hope to change that this winter, and hopefully I'll finish something, or even a few things! Hope springs eternal you know.
Warren
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Bob,
I have to confess to not having hit a lick at a snake since 2006. I quit my job to go to grad school and get my teacher's license. (BIG mistake, but that's another story for another time.) In any event, teaching has kept me so busy since then that everything has lain dormant, but I hope to change that this winter, and hopefully I'll finish something, or even a few things! Hope springs eternal you know.
Warren
A teacher huh??? Well, to quote Kipling..... You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!
Bob :o
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Hello to all,
I confirm, when you begin as a teacher, there's a lot of work. And later, you spend a lot of time in preparation and correction. I worked in primary school for 10 years.
Best regards.
Alain.
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Dal Gavan gave a pretty good description on how he acheived the slatted twin wires, here is the link for those who are interested;
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2979.0
Des.
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Dear me... I do not want to force anybody to do anything with their models. We are free to model as well as we wish. My previous remark was meant only to bring some information about the rigging on Salmsons, which btw comes from the WNW instruction! Any body can use it or not...
Chris, you are doing a spectacular job, and I am sorry I caused a discussion not too stricktly related to your model.
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Hi Chris
Apologies for being late to this build thread Chris but I'm in awe of your Salmson which is just spectacular! World class work without question and your engine is just jaw-droppingly good!
Well done Sir!
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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The point is, Bob, that there were two versions of rigging on Salmsons. Early examples had the wing cellule rigged with double wires (both landing and flying) and these had slats. Late version was double flying wires, single landing wires. These had no slats but had those drop-shaped spacers at the crossing points. The aircraft Chris is modelling had the earlier version...
Sorry for sidetracking the build log into diferent direction again, but how are the things regarding the japanise version? From the mentioned above, I think that they shoud be of the late type but is there information regarding this?
Best reagrds,
Sasho
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Ssasho, the WNW instruction is not specific in this case. But looking at the photos of Japanese examples I would rather choose the early version with doubly double rigging and slats (I am not going to say I would manage to do slats, I am overjoyed that my chosen subject has the late British version ;)). Why would Japanese use early version, I cannot explain but to me this version is quite visible in the photos.
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Hi Chris
Apologies for being late to this build thread Chris but I'm in awe of your Salmson which is just spectacular! World class work without question and your engine is just jaw-droppingly good!
Well done Sir!
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
+1. Beautiful work Chris! You are creating a gorgeous aircraft here. ;D
Cheers & huzzas,
Bob
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Ssasho, the WNW instruction is not specific in this case. But looking at the photos of Japanese examples I would rather choose the early version with doubly double rigging and slats (I am not going to say I would manage to do slats, I am overjoyed that my chosen subject has the late British version ;)). Why would Japanese use early version, I cannot explain but to me this version is quite visible in the photos.
Przemol,
I don't think Chris will mind me heading off topic once again.... I don't know if you got my attempt to message you the information below, I suspect I screwed it up. Anyway, I have the following about the Salmson in Japan.... hopefully it will be of some help to you.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8YvcXf5g7zwVl8tM3h2TXNSS2M&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8YvcXf5g7zwVl8tM3h2TXNSS2M&usp=sharing)
The information is from a book entitled Japanese Aircraft 1910-1941 by Robert C Mikesh and Shorzoe Abe. Definitely some odd aircraft....
Again, I hope something in this is of help.
Bob
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I see the push is to do the slats. However, to balance the scale a bit I did some counting. There are 40 archive photos on the WnW site, 27 of them show the rigging well enough that I could figure out if they had the slats or not. Now, I will admit that I did not try to determine if the photos were of the same aircraft. The thing is that 15 showed the slats and 12 didn't.... so it would appear that you have a good chance of being right whichever you decide.
I like Bob's reasoning here as it makes me feel content with my decision not to add slats to my Salmson. I'm more than happy to leave the rigging 'as is' as I like how it looks. Maybe it's not historically accurate but I'm okay with that.
I've managed to add the tail feathers to the model and I have one word of caution to those who are thinking of building the kit. To make the job a bit easier, loosely rig the control horns for the rudder before installing it. it's a tight fit between the horns and the tail plane and this makes it a bit easier to do. Thanks to MGunns for that tip.
I used single lengths of monofilament for the double rudder bracing lines and tensioned them as I worked my way around the tail plane. Thanks also to gcn who recommended using Vallejo Model Air Metallics (Silver) for painting the lines. I mixed a bit of flow enhancer with it and it brushed on perfectly. I'd say better than Mr. Color lacquer as it doesn't dry so quickly. I'm sold on it now.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8376-100_zpsfc5ff3d7.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8373-100_zps28055d7c.jpg)
You'll also want to be careful with the underside tail plane bracing struts as they can interfere with the bracing lines. There's a slight undercut next to the tip of the strut where you have to thread the forward line through. Too much glue there and the line won't run straight.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8380-100_zpsf81d60ff.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8383-100_zps781bd7b8.jpg)
I'm getting close to the end now!
Cheers,
Chris
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I'm more than happy to leave the rigging 'as is' as I like how it looks. Maybe it's not historically accurate but I'm okay with that.
Chris,
Two thoughts come to mind:
It's your model and you're the one who will have to look at it for the next several decades.....if you like how it looks, you've made the right decision.
And, as Bob's pointed out, you are historically accurate.
Man...your work makes me want to tear into the Otsu kit NOW! It's that inspirational.....and not bad for an armor modeler.
Cheers from NYC,
Michael (who has a Sherman III, a Firefly, a Crusader, an Humber, and a Partridge in a Pear Tree and all under construction.)
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It is exellent Chris.
Martin
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Lovely, Chris. great to see your Salmson taking final shape.
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A really beautiful job Chris.
Warren
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That's a beautifully "clean" model you've got coming together there, Chris, Your rigging is exceptionally well done.
Looking forward to seeing her in all her "completed glory"!
Cheers,
Lance
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That's a beautifully "clean" model you've got coming together there, Chris, Your rigging is exceptionally well done.
Looking forward to seeing her in all her "completed glory"!
Cheers,
Lance
I cant say it any better Chris, JUST BEAUTIFUL!
RAGIII
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That's a beautifully "clean" model you've got coming together there, Chris, Your rigging is exceptionally well done.
Looking forward to seeing her in all her "completed glory"!
Cheers,
Lance
I cant say it any better Chris, JUST BEAUTIFUL!
RAGIII
+1. You're setting the Salmson standard Chris! Looks great. 8)
Cheers,
Bob
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Cheers from NYC,
Michael (who has a Sherman III, a Firefly, a Crusader, an Humber, and a Partridge in a Pear Tree and all under construction.)
Michael..... you have me beat. I only have a Revell Atomic Cannon under construction. Has been for over a year now and still has a ways to go.... So, good luck with your builds and I hope the see the end to mine eventually..... ::) :-X
Chris.... What can I say that is any different than all the others have said? Absolutely beautiful.... the detail looks excellent.... and as usual your paint work is incredible. As much as the Dark Side misses you.... these flying targets are definitely your niche! Really had a kick watching you build this one... amazing result for all the fight it gave you along the way.... ;) ;D :) :)
Bob :o
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Exceptional workmanship Chris, the rigging is superb and to your usual very high standards, you certainly have set the bar high for anyone building one of these kits.
Des.
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Hello Chris,
I was out of circulation for quite a long time, and that is why I didn't follow this exceptional build. And now I could hang myself that I didn't follow it from the beginning. So I started to read it from the beginning on and I am overwhelmed by all of your skills in all the departements of modeling. Besides very, very exceptional photos which add such a lot to the interest of the build log, your painting abilities are phenominal and I will not repeat what has been said already many times, the rigging is of the highest degree and your perseverance an example for many. It makes it all very difficult for the Salmson builders who come after you (of which I am one as the kit is on its way to me) to do even half that good. And I still have to go through the build log of Przemo (and we know what he is able to do). You did a fantastic job Chris and I gladly will take my hat off for you!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Looking excellent.
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Wow! Nice work!
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Ooooh, that is looking really sharp Chris :)
Terri
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Chris, the tail rigging looks amazing! Beautiful neat job, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thanks for all of your comments everyone! This will be my last update for this build log as I think I have it pretty well put to bed now. I almost missed them but thanks to MGunns I followed his lead and used EZ Line to replicate the bungy cords on the Tourelle mount. I also added two drag lines per side, rigged the undercarriage, and added the propeller. The latter is done with oils over-coated with Tamiya Clear Yellow and sealed with Vallejo Satin clear coat.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8387-300_zps8c99d56f.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8388-100_zps5814437c.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8393-100_zps794ef1cf.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8392-100_zpsacb5795e.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8390-100_zpsb2a145b9.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8402-100_zpsa8c67dd2.jpg)
The bungy cords on the Tourelle mount keep the Lewis guns fully elevated.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/Salmson%202-A2/DSCN8397-100_zps47c37349.jpg)
I'll take some photos of the finished model in the next few days and post it under the Completed Models board.
Thanks again to everyone who took time to follow this project.
Cheers,
Chris
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Super work -- maybe your best ever. WTG.
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Wunderbar, Chris!
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Chris,
This is just SUPERIOR work all around! Your rigging and paintwork are really eye catching. Absolutely BEAUTIFUL!
I agree With BO!!!!
RAGIII
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Chris, your work on this one is outstanding!
Regards
Dave
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fantastic!!
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Hi Chris:
This is an outstanding model you built here. For all the trials and tribulations that you went through, it looks great. I like your use of and placement of the turnbuckles on the drag wires. Nicely done.
Best
Mark
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It has been a pleasure to watch the build progress of this model Chris, and to now see it completed is a real joy. It is a prime example of your superb modeling skills and I look forward to seeing the selection of photos in the completed model board.
Des.
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I'm absolutely loving this build Chris. I'm learning a lot from it and it's making me want to get mine back out and finish it. I look forward to your next post.
Mark
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Absolut exellent Chris.
Martin
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She is gorgeous Chris 8)
Terri
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As long as I look at this aircraft, I still cannot see how a fully dressed pilot could maneuver himself into that cockpit........
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wow chris great job, it sure looks the part.
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As long as I look at this aircraft, I still cannot see how a fully dressed pilot could maneuver himself into that cockpit........
Good point. Even worse, how would you get a wounded pilot out?
Chris,
Each one gets better! Looking forward to the next one...
Bob :o
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Hi Chris,
Amazing build! Maybe it could be equaled by another great modeler but won't be improved. Congratulations!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Very nice build Chris, I've used yours and Prez's build logs as an aid to mine.
Ironically I thought I'd done the same as you on the engine and spent an hour stripping and rebuilding ( I didn't use much glue as it pretty much snaps together) until I realised the hole in the cowling was at the top rather than the bottom.
I'm glad you like the MA metallics, I didn't think they would adhere that well to the fishing line due to its shiny surface, I was more promoted their use on ez line. They spray ok as well, but I've yet to find anything that beats Gunze Copper.
I think all engines should be made of Copper it really stands out :D its a shame this one is all but hidden
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Chris, my friend, you really have outdone yourself! The Salmson is
an absolute thing of beauty and I can't find anything on it that doesn't
look to me, perfection. You can certainly be proud of your accomplishment!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Very, very beautiful, indeed! Have that Salmson in my stash too, but do not dare to tackle it - yet..!
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Thanks to one and all for following along while I shot myself in the foot, too many times to count. Let me reiterate that this is an exceptionally fine model kit and combine it with Pheon's excellent decals and I'm sure that you would all enjoy building it.
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris, I've had limited contact with the forums over the last two weeks or so, so am just getting caught up. As everyone else has said, this has turned out beautifully. Really well done, and very inspiring!
Chris