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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => WW1 Aircraft Information/Questions => Topic started by: robvd on August 21, 2014, 02:21:07 AM

Title: Wicker seat
Post by: robvd on August 21, 2014, 02:21:07 AM
hello,
does anybody knows where to obtai 1/48 and 1/32 Wicker seats.

Or maybe how to make them

Thanks in advance :)

Rob
Title: Re: Wicker seat
Post by: Vickers on August 21, 2014, 02:37:26 AM
Brian Fawcett has his own online store now, and makes a 1/32nd resin seat intended for the DH.2, but not in 1/48th:

http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/1-32-scale-resin-detail-correction-parts

Title: Re: Wicker seat
Post by: davecww1 on August 21, 2014, 12:34:35 PM
I know that Mike West at Lone Star Models made some in 1/48 scale although I do not know if they are still available.
Title: Re: Wicker seat
Post by: robvd on August 21, 2014, 05:41:09 PM
Thank you both,

I will write to both of them

With regards

Rob :)
Title: Re: Wicker seat
Post by: davecww1 on August 22, 2014, 09:55:16 AM
Here is a link to the Lonestar seats, unfortunately the minimum shipping is higher than the pair of seats, but he has lots of other nice resin stuff... http://www.lonestarmodels.com/conversions-1-48.html
Scroll all the way down the page, the British wicker seats are at the bottom.

Dave
Title: Re: Wicker seat
Post by: robvd on August 23, 2014, 03:39:39 PM
Thanks for the replies,
I will contact Lone Star next month or so.
Right now I am looking forward to receiving the 1/48 Gotha G-V from AZ Models.
When i received it I will start looking at wath accessories I need for all the kits I recently purchased.

With Regards
Rob
Title: Re: Wicker seat
Post by: Dirigible-Al on August 23, 2014, 05:12:23 PM
Hi Rob

I have seen people actually weave very thin wire to make wicker seats which would work well in 1/32 but I personally would not attempt it in any smaller scale. That method is if you have pleanty of time on your hands but if you want something made quicker I have two methods I have tried.

The first is to use a kit seat but thinned down. Then cut some woven material out, paint it a very light beige and glue it to the seat. The put a thin darker wash over it to bring out the weave pattern. I find this does not work with cotton or natural fibre based fabrics as little borbles on the surface spoil the effect and I have not found a way of getting them off despite trying several things, the stuff that works the best is 100% nylon or plastic weave like you would find on sports bags or anoraks. Just be aware not all have a weave pattern.

The easiest way is to use a small sheet of lead but this will give you very fat sides, OK if the top and back of the seat cannot be seen or if it is a pigean box or something else that does not require a thin edge. Score verticaly down the lead with a strong but blunt metal object making the marks side by side. Lightly score across horizontally with a very sharp blade, these need to as close to eack other as possoble or else you will have something that looks more like a radiator grill than wicker (that said this method works well on them too). Paint light biege then wash with a darker colour. Sounds simple but it does look effective.

Hope this helps, Alan.
Title: Re: Wicker seat
Post by: Jamo on August 23, 2014, 06:45:09 PM
In 1/32 scale it isn't particularly difficult to weave your own seat, just need to use the right materials. I have built three, each one better than the last.

Here are my first two efforts, the first one used copper wire and I made a few errors in the design but it proved the feasibility.

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnuts%20Bristol%20F2B/Seatbacks1.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnuts%20Bristol%20F2B/Seats6.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnuts%20Bristol%20F2B/Seat1.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnuts%20Bristol%20F2B/Seat2.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnuts%20Bristol%20F2B/Seat3.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnuts%20Bristol%20F2B/Seat6.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnuts%20Bristol%20F2B/Seat7.jpg)

Here is the third one which went into the Bristol F2B

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnuts%20Bristol%20F2B/Interior1.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnuts%20Bristol%20F2B/Interior6.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnuts%20Bristol%20F2B/Interior5.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnuts%20Bristol%20F2B/Interior15.jpg)

The third seat doesn't have a solid base, just a wire frame filled in with woven monofilament. The kit's seat cushion fills the empty space in the seat bottom.

Cheers
James
Title: Re: Wicker seat
Post by: Des on August 23, 2014, 07:01:25 PM
Excellent work making the seat James.

I also made my own seat for my WnW Bristol F2b, it took a little bit of working out but wasn't extremely difficult, just takes time.

Des.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kfRGYdimZpA/U_hXLbUu-KI/AAAAAAAAOMw/RgMcDa9tVyw/s534/seat%2520x%25204.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-N7WQJ1l9-vc/U_hXYPf-KyI/AAAAAAAAOM4/h4wlc2atcIM/s800/seat_x_2.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ajj7kuadbYg/U_hXb85f3fI/AAAAAAAAONA/ishEY5GkPdo/s800/seat_x_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Wicker seat
Post by: Nigel Jackson on August 24, 2014, 03:31:33 AM
There is some breathtaking work here James and Des. Thanks for sharing it with us here. I must go back and check your build on the Brisfit, Des. It was always one of my favourites.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Wicker seat
Post by: robvd on August 24, 2014, 06:39:26 AM
woe what a superb seat  I hope that I can make something like it oneday.
 As mentioned in my introduction I mainly did build ww2 aircraftfor many years and  I find out that now  I am starting to come back to WW1 aircraft also that  I need to learn again other techniques But I feel that eventhough the approach to building the models is in some ways very different it is also very rewarding when it is done.
I hope to learn a lot
Anyway thank you all for the information shared.

With regards

Rob