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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Des on August 10, 2014, 12:55:25 PM

Title: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on August 10, 2014, 12:55:25 PM
I will be starting a build log of this kit as soon as my kit arrives from NZ, it is in transit at the moment. I have not decided on a scheme yet but will advise you as soon as I have made my mind up. As with all of my builds there will be a comprehensive build log on my website at this link.  http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page50.html

Des.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-XvGctVwZoQc/U-SRJk5ythI/AAAAAAAAOEo/8x3TZw8QqoE/s518/dfw.jpg)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: coyotemagic on August 10, 2014, 01:41:23 PM
Fantastic choice for your next build, Des!  I ordered the mid-production version and it shipped yesterday, so I should have it by Friday.  I'm really looking forward to what you do with this one.  From what I can glean from the site, it looks to be an awesome kit.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on August 10, 2014, 01:46:42 PM
Thanks Bud, I'm looking forward to building this kit, it's been a while since my last Wingnuts build. I am leaning towards the Gretel scheme, it looks quite good.

Des.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: coyotemagic on August 10, 2014, 02:00:49 PM
That's the scheme I'm drawn to.  It looks cool with the spinner off, showing the nicely detailed backing plate.  I like the Halberstadt scheme, as well.  Can't wait to see what you settle on.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Nigel Jackson on August 10, 2014, 04:07:10 PM
Me too!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: GrahamB on August 10, 2014, 04:34:49 PM
Will look forward to this, Des.

I like the DFW (A) and Halberstadt schemes. Difficult choice.

Good luck.

GrahamB
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: rhwinter on August 10, 2014, 06:40:50 PM
Looking foreward to seeing your Gretel (hopefully), Des!
Richard
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on August 10, 2014, 07:24:07 PM
Yep, I've made up my mind, I will be doing the Gretel scheme.
I received shipping notice late Friday so hopefully the kit will be on my door step by Wednesday, fingers crossed.

Des.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: RAGIII on August 10, 2014, 07:38:42 PM
Like the others I am looking forward to seeing your build of this Beauty. I am sure it will be Brilliant!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: stefanbuss on August 10, 2014, 08:53:58 PM
I am very interested in your build, as my C.V (late) is already on it's way to Germany. I have not yet decided if it will be the Gretel scheme ore something else (I don't dare to try the Halberstadt camo, yet), but very likely an Aviatik licence build.


This, like all of your build logs, will be followed closely.

Stefan
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 10, 2014, 10:06:47 PM
Hi Des,
 I look forward to seeing your progress on this build  ;)
Cheers,

BVB
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Alexis on August 10, 2014, 10:37:14 PM
It has been a while or at least for since the last time I watch a build of your's come together . Looking forward on seeing this one unfold  8)








Terri
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Dekenba on August 10, 2014, 11:40:34 PM
Looking forward to this - as always with Des, his build logs are excellent.

I've ordered the mid-production, because I like the look of the radiators either side of the fuselage, but if it ends up half as well built as Des's I'll be happy.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 10, 2014, 11:52:47 PM
Pull out a chair for me too as I'll be following along.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: petrov27 on August 11, 2014, 12:24:46 AM
Definately following - love this scheme also
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Ernie on August 11, 2014, 01:02:27 AM
I'm also very happy with your choices, Des. Will be following along happily.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: mgunns on August 11, 2014, 03:08:23 AM
Hello Des:

I too am looking forward to your  build log on this kit.  I haven't made the leap yet, I am waiting to see what other surprises WNW has in store for the modeler.  Surprises notwithstanding your build will definitely be a "Barn Burner" with all eyes focused on your build.  Can you feel the pressure yet?  ;)

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: LukasTheLight on August 12, 2014, 06:14:36 AM
I absolutely cannot wait for this built... Hope to see some progress soon!!!  ;)
Lukas
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on August 20, 2014, 03:44:24 PM
I have started work on the DFW, following the instructions I did the cockpit first, everything I have done so far is OOB. Fit of parts is excellent and the extra tight tolerances experienced in previous Wingnut kits appear to be eased off a bit making assembly very easy and delightful. In the instructions the shelf in the observers pit has two machine gun ammo drums, I opted to replace those with two maps and the flare pistol, just adds a little bit of variety. I still need to add the seat belts and the control rigging. So far I am very happy with this kit, it has been a real joy to build.

Des.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DJbeSoiQdjw/U_QybG653II/AAAAAAAAOH8/oc1CJqBqOUg/s800/dfw%2520x%252016.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MVNaWzQb6SY/U_QybtF2nlI/AAAAAAAAOIA/AClRNkvf18k/s800/dfw%2520x%252017.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DumrgVmtCmE/U_Qybt0cNrI/AAAAAAAAOIE/NpbZWhRzH00/s800/dfw%2520x%252018.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gZM5fJQ3vdo/U_Qyh4sHm1I/AAAAAAAAOI0/pD_yv9nvR7k/s800/dfw%2520x%252024.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N5tondJkyAU/U_Qyj7fBldI/AAAAAAAAOJA/-ORVdP1WvQg/s800/dfw%2520x%252026.jpg)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 20, 2014, 04:19:53 PM
very nice des. you always do a stellar build. i was looking at your  bataille build thread earlier and saw you were building this in your post. so i went to the mother page and checked out the step by step. i will have to get one of these kits, i just cant decide on which version although i am leaning toward the late. i still want a d.viif, a roland d.vib, an albie d.v (oaw) and an amc dh-9. been buying too many books lately. thinking i might have to sell something got a few books and kits i dont need. we shall see.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on August 20, 2014, 05:10:20 PM
Stunning work as usual Des, and what, in less than a week???
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Jacek on August 20, 2014, 05:25:02 PM
Fantastic interior!

Jacek
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Nigel Jackson on August 20, 2014, 06:07:45 PM
This looks superb, Des and the placement of the flare pistol is a great touch. You say that you've done it so far OOB and that shows just what can be achieved in highly skilled hands.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 20, 2014, 07:14:25 PM
Stunning work as usual Des, and what, in less than a week???

That's the beauty of being retired! You get plenty of bench time  ;)
I only need to work another 20 years before I can stiff glue fumes all day  ;D

Lovely precise work, Des. Looking forward to seeing more from this build.

Cheers,
vB
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: RAGIII on August 20, 2014, 09:29:12 PM
Des,
As always a beautiful, clean and inspiring piece of work! Like the others I like your choice of the flare pistol and maps!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: rhallinger on August 20, 2014, 09:38:11 PM
Beautiful Des!  Thanks for leading the way on this one.  The maps are a neat idea. :D

I didn't realize that the DFW was equipped with an early prototype Martin-Baker ejection seat! ;) That puppy looks rugged!

Looking forward to seeing where you go with this one.

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: radio on August 20, 2014, 10:04:23 PM
Wonderful, I love your great builds Des.
Martin
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: mgunns on August 20, 2014, 10:36:35 PM
Hello Des:
So far it looks pretty darn nice.  I like the pistol and maps, as you mentioned it adds interest and perks up the rear cockpit.
Looking forward to seeing  you work through the build and your comments on the kit.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Kreston on August 20, 2014, 11:32:17 PM
Great start!  The cockpit looks fantastic!
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: dr 1 ace on August 20, 2014, 11:56:52 PM
Des,
As always a beautiful, clean and inspiring piece of work! Like the others I like your choice of the flare pistol and maps!
RAGIII

Dittos from the 3rd Amigo !!

Ed
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Epeeman on August 21, 2014, 12:24:01 AM
Looks really great so far, Des -

Nice touch with the flare pistol and maps, too.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: coyotemagic on August 21, 2014, 05:16:56 AM
Extraordinary work on the cockpit, Des!  As impressed as I am with your paint and detail work, I'm equally impressed with your ability to keep the mating surfaces paint free.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: BigBlue on August 21, 2014, 07:25:15 AM
Beautiful interior, Des.  I look forward to seeing your build as it unfolds.

Chris
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: petrov27 on August 21, 2014, 07:40:11 AM
Very nice start - looks great!
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on August 24, 2014, 03:36:52 PM
The fuselage has now been closed up, the fit of the two fuselage halves was near perfect, only the slightest amount of filler was needed on the join, and there was no tightness of the fuselage interior with the fuselage halves, Wingnuts have eased up a little on their previous ultra close tolerances. The cabane struts are just sitting on the fuselage for show.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rEDHJCVme-I/U_l4JbaEFXI/AAAAAAAAONs/HU45yRZNCKQ/s800/dfw%2520x%252027.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Mvof6QRGAqY/U_l4JAdMgRI/AAAAAAAAONo/2QRh33uNJc4/s800/dfw%2520x%252028.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6RVgENDGVuI/U_l4L_AEt-I/AAAAAAAAON4/VpK-6B7j0Cg/s800/dfw%2520x%252030.jpg)

Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Alexis on August 24, 2014, 10:46:24 PM
Moving along very well Des  ;D




Terri
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: petrov27 on August 24, 2014, 11:08:14 PM
Lookin great - coming together right quick!
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: RAGIII on August 24, 2014, 11:33:45 PM
Simply beautiful!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Kreston on August 25, 2014, 01:14:19 AM
That looks great so far!
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 25, 2014, 01:16:48 AM
I still need to add the seat belts and the control rigging. So far I am very happy with this kit, it has been a real joy to build.

Now this is interesting for me in that you add the control rigging after the cockpit is assembled. I add them as I go, but then again, my dexterity is about as delicate as a bull in a china shop. Is there a specific reason why you wait until it's all assembled or is it just the way you do things?

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 25, 2014, 01:34:29 AM
Tasty, Des! Very Very Tasty!!  ;)

vB
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: lone modeller on August 25, 2014, 03:26:30 AM
You make everything look so easy….. Another inspiring and wonderful build - a treat to follow.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: radio on August 25, 2014, 06:50:35 AM
Comes very nicely along.
Martin
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on August 25, 2014, 08:09:30 AM
Thanks very much for all the kind comments, much appreciated.

Chris - Adding the control rigging depends on the situation at the time, some lines I add as the build progresses while in most cases I wait until the interior is finished then I add the control lines. In most cases the control cables are quite easy to access and can be fitted with the use of tweezers and CA, but it is like all aspects of modeling, you do what is comfortable for you and what works for you.

Des.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Ssasho0 on August 25, 2014, 05:08:11 PM
ANother excellent build Des, you are a real inspiration for our community!
Best reagrds,
Sasho
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Ernie on August 25, 2014, 09:27:53 PM
Beautiful job, Des.  Your interior is first rate, and I thought your imaginative use of the maps and
pistol was great.  Good to know that the close tolerances have been relaxed a bit.  Always a joy
to follow your builds and the DFW is no exception.  Looking forward to the next updates.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: stefanbuss on August 29, 2014, 06:05:22 PM
Des,

what a lovely clean build. Where did you get those maps from (or are they generic)?

Stefan
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on August 31, 2014, 06:58:01 PM
Thank you all for the very kind comments, they are much appreciated.

Stefan - I typed in WW1 maps on Google, I selected the appropriate maps then printed them out at a much reduced size, then it is a simple matter to cut and fold the maps.

I have been working on the engine which is now just about completed. I added the ignition leads, ignition lead tubes, throttle linkages and valve springs. I used the moulded spark plugs, these are moulded pretty well so did not need replacing.

Des.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JbjszG6-55E/VALhr_1QQ1I/AAAAAAAAOS4/TmVG4G0y5xI/s800/dfw%2520x%252043.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yujk95q0WAU/VALhpV_V0GI/AAAAAAAAOSk/FmkSWb8Rky4/s800/dfw%2520x%252039.jpg)

Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 31, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
Pristine engine as always Des with exquisite detail. It sure looks good in that engine bay.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Alexis on August 31, 2014, 10:56:07 PM
Super job on the detailing Des !  Also like your clean appearance of your work  :)




Terri
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Epeeman on September 01, 2014, 01:26:27 AM
Excellent engine work, Des -

You seem to excel at building motors, actually.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Snowy on September 01, 2014, 01:59:41 AM
Impressive, most impressive. That interior detail is top notch Des and the engine is a delight to behold.

Cheers
Snowy
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: mgunns on September 01, 2014, 02:02:29 AM
Hello Des:

The engine sure looks good.  Is that a new molding?  It looks like the same one provided in the LVG and Junkers J.1, but I don't recall they had spark plugs molded in.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: radio on September 01, 2014, 03:17:30 AM
Great engine Des. Looks very nice.
Martin
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: RAGIII on September 01, 2014, 04:46:25 AM
Des,
Your usual brilliant engine detail! Very crisp work!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: coyotemagic on September 01, 2014, 08:27:12 AM
Truly brilliant work, Des!  Love that engine.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Ernie on September 01, 2014, 09:02:15 AM
Beautiful job on the engine, Des.  Man I wish I had your talent.  It is such fun
following your build. :)

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: xmald on September 01, 2014, 09:40:43 PM
A work of a master, as always Des. A pure pleasure to watch mate!
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: BigBlue on September 01, 2014, 10:46:27 PM
Looks great Des.  The engine, like all of your others, is a jewel. 

Chris
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on September 03, 2014, 12:58:25 PM
Thank you for all the kind comments, they are very much appreciated.

The engine has now been fitted to the airframe, it fitted beautifully with good locating lugs and plenty of surface to apply glue. The fuselage was sprayed with Gunze  (Hobby Color) H73 Dark Green while the cockpit padding was painted with Humbrol 62 Leather. I also painted the engine cowls because once fitted to the fuselage they are a very close fit to the engine so masking would have proven difficult.

Des.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0mFKponeFYs/VAZSGBKTs7I/AAAAAAAAOY8/WGnp49RkBZU/s800/dfw%2520x%252046.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VRNnP9_AUnI/VAZSGPphmeI/AAAAAAAAOZA/ktonsrFw_cQ/s800/dfw%2520x%252047.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6flhatXlegQ/VAZSIdoBpuI/AAAAAAAAOZQ/P1fCw_qRQSc/s800/dfw%2520x%252049.jpg)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on September 03, 2014, 02:19:22 PM
simply gorgeous des, and what an elegant airframe.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: PrzemoL on September 03, 2014, 06:03:52 PM
Lovely progress, Des.

Makes me want to get one. What I will sooner or later do :-)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: BigBlue on September 03, 2014, 10:49:14 PM
Looks great, Des.  It has been fun to watch your progress.  The engine really looks the part sitting in there.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 03, 2014, 11:44:42 PM
What a nice smooth paint job you have there Des. Not a blemish to be seen. You work magic with an airbrush!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: lcarroll on September 04, 2014, 12:55:16 AM
   Looking spectacular as usual Des. That engine is in a class of it's own and the basic paint job is flawless; another "stunner" emerging from your shop!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Epeeman on September 04, 2014, 07:02:18 AM
Coming along nicely, Des -

Looks great with the engine in place.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Alexis on September 04, 2014, 12:13:10 PM
Awesome Des !




Terri
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: RAGIII on September 04, 2014, 09:57:53 PM
Your usual stunning work Des!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: joanblaue on September 05, 2014, 05:14:20 AM
Fantastic build ! Very clean and inspiring.
Great work

olivier
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Ernie on September 05, 2014, 08:22:49 AM
Beautiful paintwork, Des!  The fuselage looks first-class.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: coyotemagic on September 05, 2014, 11:26:56 AM
Your usual flawless finish, Des!  Can't wait to see the other colors applied.  She's gonna be a stunner.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on September 05, 2014, 04:13:42 PM
Thank you all for your very kind comments, I am very humbled.

I have added the cabane struts, the radiator and the engine covers. As can be seen the decals are now fixed the the entire model has had a coat of 50/50 mix of Humbrol Matt Cote and Satin Cote, this gives a nice low sheen finish. The tail is only trial fitted at this stage.

Des.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SL7_y4kW0vk/VAlSXDhsY-I/AAAAAAAAOdY/f0ua1cwC7oo/s800/dfw%2520x%252060.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V2MgwGqBvKg/VAlSXKC19fI/AAAAAAAAOdk/LU17VAB44GI/s800/dfw%2520x%252061.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5pDbY5caeDw/VAlSXTMqxvI/AAAAAAAAOd4/691LPr5zL9E/s800/dfw%2520x%252062.jpg)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: stefanbuss on September 05, 2014, 05:05:34 PM
Des,
yours is a very very clean build - will you eventually dirty/weather the airframe, as the photos in WNW's instructions show a rather battered and worn aircraft, or will you leave her nice and shiny, as she is at the moment?

Reagrds,
Stefan
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on September 05, 2014, 06:10:36 PM
Pristine work as usual Des, very sharp :)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Nigel Jackson on September 05, 2014, 06:56:56 PM
This is shaping up beautifully, Des - but then what else might we expect from you?

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 05, 2014, 10:04:49 PM
Clean and crisp as always!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: xmald on September 06, 2014, 03:38:31 AM
Looking great Des! A very interesting scheme indeed!
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Jamo on September 06, 2014, 08:58:31 AM
Always love seeing your work Des, quality modelling!

I have no more DFW posters so how about a patriotic German postcard featuring a military award to celebrate

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/WWI%20posters/Patrioticpostcardb.jpg)

Warm regards
James
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: radio on September 08, 2014, 06:30:26 AM
Wonderful work until now Des.
Martin
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Alexis on September 10, 2014, 12:14:23 AM
Love the sheen you have achieved Des  :)






Terri
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: RAGIII on September 10, 2014, 08:04:11 AM
Just Beautiful work Des! Terrific finish as always!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on September 17, 2014, 09:48:52 AM
Thanks very much for all the very kind comments.

Just a small update. The wings are now painted, decals applied and the wings clear coated. Wings are just sitting in position for photo purposes. All the struts have also been painted, decals applied and clear coated ready for all the rigging holes to be drilled. Wheels still need to have the tyres painted and the propeller needs more work.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NavWzS-iGQQ/VBfXQZpiAcI/AAAAAAAAOrY/uUgOJgLCog8/s800/dfw%2520x%252096.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MB08gHeZ6fI/VBfXRVpO-nI/AAAAAAAAOrg/Kp_4eJCUBQs/s800/dfw%2520x%252097.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nGUYaspT7i4/VBfXTJlWblI/AAAAAAAAOrs/ue5gOsfIIk4/s800/dfw%2520x%252099.jpg)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: RAGIII on September 17, 2014, 11:08:03 AM
Des, That is an awesome scheme. I am really going to have to look into this one further! As always your work is equally awesome and I am really looking forward to the rest of the build!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: coyotemagic on September 17, 2014, 12:46:26 PM
Brilliant work as always, Des!  Your interpretation of the tail and wing streaking is awesome.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: stefanbuss on September 17, 2014, 04:33:51 PM
Des,
how did you paint the bleached parts of the wings and tail?

S.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on September 17, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
A full description on how I painted this model in here  http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page50.html  If you require any further information please feel free to contact me.

Des.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Ernie on September 17, 2014, 08:19:09 PM
She's really looking the business now Des.:D  Beautiful
paintwork! Out of curiosity, did you "pin" the Elevators
and Ailerons before attaching?

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Nigel Jackson on September 17, 2014, 08:42:29 PM
Beautiful work Des. The finish looks so effective.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 18, 2014, 12:03:39 AM
It's all starting to come together now and looking very nice indeed!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: radio on September 18, 2014, 01:10:32 AM
A very nice work and paint Des,
Martin
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Alexis on September 18, 2014, 09:18:22 AM
Des , Beautiful job on the wings  :) Very interesting scheme as well . Haven't seen this one before .




Terri
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: KitRookie37 on September 19, 2014, 05:34:15 AM
Good evening to all,
Sorry, I'm in late... ;)
An amazing work, I'like it !!  :)
I'd like to tell about an personnal feeling. I 'm trying to be careful because of my bad english. I don't want to be critical, just a rookie question. :)
Seeing Des (and others) marvellous work, I think american or australian modeler haven't the same sensitivity with painting than in Europe. They seem liking "brand new paint" without wash and weathering. I saw the same way in the customers models on WnW site. Do you think the same way or am I totally wrong ?
Best Regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Dekenba on September 19, 2014, 05:51:29 AM
Interesting observation, Alain. I tend to agree. I know that Des never weathers his models, he likes them factory fresh, but weathering in WWI modelling is definitely far less prevalent than, for instance, WWII modelling.

Personally, I prefer a weathered model over a factory finish, only because it adds a degree of realism and more accurately reflects how the planes looked most of the time.

Perhaps WWI planes, like their pilots, did not live long enough to get n properly weathered? It's certainly a very defendable position to adopt as a modeler.

However, this takes nothing away from Des's skills, which are absolutely outstanding.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Epeeman on September 19, 2014, 06:22:17 AM
Great progress, Des!

Coming along a treat now.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on September 19, 2014, 07:54:33 AM
Alain and Dekenba make very good points and I appreciated their input. As most of you would already know from seeing my models, I do not weather. I look at it in the view that all, and I mean all. aeroplanes came out of a factory or workshop and were all at some stage in their life brand new, squeaky clean, unused hence very clean. This is the way I like to depict my models and the "new" look is appealing to my eyes. I really like what some modelers do with the weathering and many have amazing skills in applying weather, but on the other hand I have seen some excellent model ruined by over zealous weathering or poorly applied weathering.

We are all individuals and we make our models to suit our own desires, I look at all models on an equal footing, weathered or unweathered they all appeal to me. I look at the skills that were employed during the construction of the kits, any detailing that was added during construction, how the modeler approached the rigging and decal applications then I stand back and observe the overall finish of the completed model, not just the paint finish but the model in its entirety

Weathered or unweathered, entirely up to the modeler and I appreciate the efforts put into all of the models displayed on this forum, happy modelling guys and gals, splash on the mud or leave it clean, doesn't really matter  :) :)

Des.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on September 19, 2014, 06:59:36 PM
I agree with Des, we build to our own tastes and skill sets.

I don't yet have enough quality and consistency in my builds to produce the craftsmanship and clean finishes that our host does.  It is inspiring to see Des' work - and of course that of the other outstanding modellers who post here, however frequent.

For weathering, I end up doing this by default to hide build/paint inaccuracies or mistakes, and also as a result of not quite getting rib shading etc quite right.  I am far from an artist, have little idea on the technicalities of artistry, in depth paint/colour analysis etc.

Back to the topic though, yet another superb example from Des' hands...
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: KitRookie37 on September 20, 2014, 04:45:32 AM
Good evening to all,
I agree with you. First, it's a personnal choice.
I'm just wondering if there is a "country sensibility" because of different culture. A little like the spanish school. I mean (but, perhaps I mistake) that a best of show in Europe would not necessary appreciate as the same way in USA, Australia or Japan exactly because of this different sensibility. Am I understandable ?  ;)
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: GrahamB on September 20, 2014, 07:17:19 AM
A very nice model Des and it makes me look forward even more to when I can get going on my DFW.

As for the comment about clean v weathering I am neutral on this (well almost). A lot of WW1 aircraft probably had very short lives - factory-depot-unit-destruction in a matter of days so clean (or relatively clean) is perfectly acceptable. What I do not like is some of the modern trend - let's call it the 'Spanish School' - that is obsessed with shading/highlighting, filtering etc. Back in the UK about 10 years ago there was a term used - derogatory- which refereed to this as 'Capo de Monte' modelling. Acceptable to some (figurines are acceptable subjects for this) but not me. Accurately observed weathering - see Jamo's photos for the real thing - provide the way forward to those who want genuine impression of reality rather than what is an 'artistic/impressionistic' look.

It's only a hobby!

Cheers,

GrahamB
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: BigBlue on September 20, 2014, 09:30:49 AM
Really beautiful, Des.  It has been fun for me to watch you build one of your masterpieces in real time. 

Chris
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: mgunns on September 20, 2014, 10:42:58 AM
Hello Des:

This is turning out to be another outstanding build.  Your work is very clean.  I am not keen the actual aircraft, but I like your model and seeing the model always is better than seeing a piece of artwork.
I never thought much about the cultural sensitivity of weathering, more a personal taste, I too like pristine models, howver lately I have been experimenting with weathering and oils.  Not a master by any means, but I am enjoying the affect.

Looking forward to seeing you wrap this up.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on September 20, 2014, 09:14:21 PM
Thanks very much for all your wonderful comments.

The wings have now been fitted. The bottom wings have great locating lugs which fit perfectly into the fuselage giving a very solid fix. I fitted all the struts to the bottom wings and also the in-wing turnbuckles. The top wing had eyelets fitted to its underside then the wing was positioned onto the struts, the fit was excellent with the tops of the struts fitting beautifully into the locating holes in the wing. I have also started the rigging, the inner bay has been completed, I'm using 0.12mm monofilament. This is a beautifully engineered kit with me not having any fit issues during the build, but I tell you what, there are a heap of left over parts.

Here are a few photos showing the rigging so far, the gap between the top and bottom wings is quite large so this makes rigging very easy.

It is important to rig the undercarriage, with the wings fitted the undercarriage is quite weak so the rigging adds a lot of strength. Also take care with the wing struts, they are quite fine and could be broken if not handled wih care, this is not a criticism of the kit, just a warning.

Des.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lEE6CO3PZ-c/VB1eRHAas7I/AAAAAAAAOsg/aCMdN1OHldE/s800/dfw%2520x%2520102.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d1bHuVQIoRA/VB1eQwB-fkI/AAAAAAAAOsk/f3bxXZN_4p8/s800/dfw%2520x%2520103.jpg)



Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Ernie on September 20, 2014, 09:39:25 PM
Up to your usual high standards, Des.  The rigging work is looking terrific, and I
appreciate the warnings of what to watch for.  I look forward to more updates.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: rhallinger on September 20, 2014, 10:50:41 PM
A beautiful build Des!  It's nice to see this one built up so well.  Thanks for leading the way and sharing. :D.

Cheers and huzzas,

Bob
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 20, 2014, 11:37:07 PM
Gretel's starting to look pretty attractive Des. Now that I've seen how high that top wing is, I might be tempted to build this kit myself as it makes rigging just that much easier to accomplish. As usual, this is another clean, crisp build.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Jacek on September 21, 2014, 02:43:14 AM
I really like the shading on the wings !
What nozzle you used in aerograf to the final shading ?
Turnbuckles and rigging perfect !
Jacek
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: radio on September 21, 2014, 05:12:15 AM
A very nice model will give an exellent build by Des.
I work is exeptional.
Martin
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on September 21, 2014, 08:46:57 AM
Thank you Jacek for your comments, the nozzle I use in my air brush is 0.3mm.

Des.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: DannyVM on September 21, 2014, 06:35:09 PM
Hi Des,

great looking work you show us Des. Also the cockpit is top, i really like the different color tones of the wood, and offcourse the little add-ons like the maps and pistol, those items give a great appearance to the model. Well done mate.

Greetz

Danny
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: lone modeller on September 22, 2014, 02:59:12 AM
I have not dropped in lately so I have just caught up with progress. This is another of your truly magnificent builds - attention to the tiniest of detail makes your models uniquely different. This one will be yet another stunner when it is finished.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Beto on September 22, 2014, 07:02:19 AM
Hi Alain, yes I think that some styles are more prevalent in some countries than others. The 'Spanish school' is a good example of a style that is accepted locally, but 'raises a few eyebrows' elsewhere. That said, I'm sure not everyone in Spain likes extreme weathering and heavily applied effects. One of the nice things about this forum is seeing the range of styles and finishes that can be achieved and trying other people's techniques :)

Nice build, by the way, Des. Getting such a pristine finish is not easy!

Yes, you can bet not everyone in Spain is into that school!  ;) - That said, when checking period pictures is easy to see that WWI engines spilled a lot of oil that stained the lower part of the fabric covering in a matter of days. Most of the Fokker monoplanes sport these oil stains following the lower fuselage longerons back to the cockpit, and also many D.VIIs. But other than that and some mud into the wheel covers and tail skid area (ah, and the oil dripping on the axle wing on the Fokker DR.I!), they were usually kept in a pretty pristine condition during their short lives.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: pepperman42 on September 22, 2014, 07:51:10 AM
Just catching up. Another great build Des!!

steve
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Michael Scarborough on September 23, 2014, 03:35:56 AM
You are creating quite a text book to follow here, Des. I have yet to get through even half the other build logs you've so kindly shared with the membership. 

If I may weigh in on the Spanish School subject....I believe a lot of what has developed in styrene model building and, particularly, finishing, in the past few years in Spain and which is pretty much now spread across the Continent, is a result, at least in part, of what was happening in the figure painting world. And, in figures, the stylistic differences are pretty notable when worlds collide at an event such as the annual MFCA show in Valley Forge, PA.

To my eye, it has now gone a tad too far. There have been some influential figure painters and model builders who come from a fine arts background and this can be great. However, builders who don't really understand the techniques they're using have taken them  to the extreme and tried to become so "artistic" in their weathering, and in figure painting, that a lot of builds look like wonderfully rendered objects but not at all like a well used airplane or piece of armor. It has gotten to where people are building models of other people's models instead of building models of the real thing. I believe WnW's choice of including period photos in the plans, as well as those on their website, is a huge step towards helping achieve realism, if indeed that is what the individual builder is after. The really wonderful thing, and what I find refreshing about the membership of this site in particular, is that there seems to be room for many interpretations as well as opinions.

OK...that's my sermon for the day....must get back to my flock.

Cheers from NYC,
Michael
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: RAGIII on September 23, 2014, 10:52:50 AM
Your rigging is looking awesome as is usual with your builds. A Lovely Model all around!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: eindecker on September 23, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
Not to hijack this thread but I wanted to note that I was recently in New York City visiting our son for a week. Too bad I didn't know Michael's Scarborough was there or we could've gotten together and talk, what else, WWI one models.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Des on September 23, 2014, 08:52:01 PM
Thanks very much for all the wonderful comments, they are really appreciated.

The model is now finished, it was a delight to build with Wingnut Wings doing a superb job with the engineering of this kit, all the parts fitted perfectly without the ultra tight tolerances. The fitting of the struts to the bottom wings is just pure genius by Wingnuts, it is impossilble to put the incorrect strut in the wrong place, a fool-proof ingenious idea. There are more photos over in the completed model board.

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IFWdGP93-H0/VCE4s2yWE3I/AAAAAAAAOx4/hphCNclUxa8/s800/dfw%2520x%2520122.jpg)
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: coyotemagic on September 24, 2014, 03:02:27 AM
Congratulations on the completion of another stunner, Des!  I'm happy to read that the engineering of this kit is so good since I've got the mid version in my stash.  So, what's next?
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Alexis on September 24, 2014, 10:50:06 AM
Two really big thumbs up Des ! 8)





Terri
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Michael Scarborough on September 24, 2014, 11:42:32 AM
Really wonderful, Des.....you make it look so easy and speak so highly about the engineering of the kit that I am tempted to tear right into it! But...baby steps.

I'm with Bud...what's next??!!

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

PS If anyone is indeed coming to town, let me know.
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: pepperman42 on October 01, 2014, 12:12:11 AM
Another gem for the fleet.

Steve
Title: Re: WnW DFW C.V (late)
Post by: Ernie on October 01, 2014, 02:28:41 PM
Another magnificent model, Des!  Your work is really inspiring and such an
wealth of help for us.

Cheers,
Ernie :)