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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: rolanddvi on August 05, 2014, 10:16:41 AM
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Just saw this in the Prepare section of their web site. Finally a new Pup in this scale. Now I can really use up those Pheon decals!!
http://hrmodel.cz/prepare.htm
Mike
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Thanks for posting that Mike,
I just e-mailed Jan to see if a release date is available, I have to have that one!
Ian
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Thanks for posting this release. I don't build 1/72nd and yet this one is tempting....
RAGIII
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Ian if you find anything out please let us know. I keep telling myself to stay focused in thinning out my stash but these manufacturers just keep putting out good stuff! I've been hoping for a new Pup since I got Rowan's decal set.
Mike
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That looks to be a very nice kit. Like Rick, I don't build 1/72 scale, but this one is tempting me, as well. Seems to contain every possible option in one kit.
Cheers,
Bud
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Very nice looking kit, this would be a great candidate for the new Small Stuff rotary engines.
Des.
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Here's the reply I got from Jan Hora:
Dear Ian!
Sopwith PUP will be ready during September, I hope...
But I am not sending one box of kit. Contact on my dealers are on my web pages www.hrmodel.cz . Also this kit will be distributed Hannants.
Jan Hora HR model
I will have my cash ready....even though I have far too many in the stash already! ;)
Ian
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Ian,
Thanks for the info. September gives me some to save up some cash!!
Mike
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That is fantastic news. As was already put, there is now good hope for those great Rowan's decals without a need to struggle with the Airfix oldie. I have done it once, thought of two more tries but then gave it up. Now, this is a different story. I will buy one at least, there is that fine blue Pritt's Puppie tempting me since Rowan issued his decals.
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Looking forward to this one already.
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Interesting to see that the centre section of the top wing is in clear plastic. I wonder what's the idea there?
Also the two sets of fuselage parts - does this mean a Ship's Pup variant can be built?
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It seems that the first boxing (RNAS Aces) is ready for distribution.
http://www.hrmodel.cz/prepare.htm
And a couple of others are coming after October. I can't wait to find it available at any distributor...
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Bring it on! It's about time we had a decent Pup kit, maybe a Roland C.II next.....Airfix obviously doesn't care......
Ian
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I'm very excited about the Pup. Hope it's out soon! Between this and the Nieuport 10 kits, HR seem to be THE manufacturer for new WWI 1/72 right now.
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Just an FYI. I saw that all 5 of the HR Model Sopwith Pups are on the Hobbyshop.cz website and show as in stock.
http://www.hobbyshop.cz/shop/
No affiliation or connection, just a heads up!!
Mike
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Thanks for the heads up, although a few of them, including the aces version, are on backorder.
Ian
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Hi Ian,
Sounds like they must have gone very quickly. They were all "In Stock" just before I made the post.
Mike
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I did not care of the version. I have those fantastic Rowan's decals (his first set produced) to decorate the model. So I ordered one from those which were still in stock - the Japanese version. Plastic is surely the same. ;)
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I think they must have had only one of each; I ordered the Type 9901, because it was in stock, and it immediately went out of stock after I completed my order.
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So, the HR Model's Pup in Japanese version has just arrived to me.
It is a very fine production, the main elements fit nicely the scale drawings from WDS. The surface detail on the fuselage (linen over the the wooden formers at the sides, stiching, fuel caps) as well as on the flying and control surfaces (ribs, false ribs, linen between) is very fine. So are the finely detailed wheels with stiching and spokes under the linen. The cockpit interior has the characteristic basic features (wooden elements on the sides and bottom). There is some flash on the elements, but should be easy to get rid of. Engines (three options) are not the best but after all I have recently seen too much Small Stuff resin things (I will use their 80hp Rhone I made erronously for my current build - bristol Scout)
All in all - a very fine model in 72nd scale - should build into a very decent Puppie.
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If its anything like your Scout then we are in for another treat!!!
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Thanks Przemol for the run down on the kit, it sounds as if it is going to be a beauty, I'm looking forward to seeing the first build log on the forum.
Des.
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These are now in stock at Hannants. I've just ordered the RNAS version.
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I have just recently received a couple of the HR Models Sopwith Pups and Phonix C.I. Very nice indeed. In the last couple of years they have released these two kits and also a Hanriot HD.1/HD.2 and the Nieuport 10. I tip my hat to them for producing these kits in 1/72 scale. It would be nice to see an updated Nieuport 28 and Sopwith Triplane among others. Let's hope!!
Mike
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I totally agree!
I just ordered the Pup and Phoenix, already have the Nieuport 10 and Hanriot.
I would love to see them take the reins from Airfix and Revell and update all those old clunky kits - a decent RE8, Hannover, Roland C.II, Nieuport 28, Tripe, and 0/400....I'm almost dribbling at the thought! Or maybe some of the 2 seaters that are almost unavailable.....DFW C.V, A-W FK8.....
Ian
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Has anyone actually built one of these yet? I started mine but it's been put aside until I can work out a way to fit the top plane.
All of the struts are seperate pieces and there are no location holes in the fuselage for the cabane struts, and only the shallowest dimples to show where the struts should go on the lower plane. There is nothing to positively locate any of the struts, or to help set them at the required angles.
It's very disappointing. I'd expected more for a brand-new 21st century kit!
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Drill the struts and dimples with a 0.3mm drill and use 5 amp fuse wire to make the joint ;)
Not sure what you mean, old chap :-\ (I could have sworn I'd replied to this earlier but my post hasn't appeared)
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Drill the struts and dimples with a 0.3mm drill and use 5 amp fuse wire to make the joint ;)
Not sure what you mean, old chap :-\ (I could have sworn I'd replied to this earlier but my post hasn't appeared)
Check my FF49:
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/FF49/ff49-50_zps044f1c4f.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/FF49/ff49-31_zps2bc7a960.jpg)
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Thanks, Przemol. I understand now. Whilst that makes the parts a better and stronger fit, it doesn't help in lining the struts up on the Pup. Because they are all individual parts it means that getting the angles (and therefore the amount of stagger) correct isn't going to be easy
Even the ancient Airfix pup had better location of parts and came with a crude jig to set the stagger, so I expected better of this new kit.
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Squiffy, for British single-strut wing cellules I use cardboard jigs and temporary supports for the struts which can be adjusted and corrected - this done be eye-verification from three sides vs scale drawings and ruler measurements of distances between the strut tips. Here you can check how I did this on Roden's SE5a:
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=689.0
When the geomatry is satisfying I introduce tiny drops of glue to the strut-wing connection using a sharpened toothpick.
Recently I have replaced the yellow Patafix blobs with supports bent from pieces of wire with bases made of lead pieces to stabilize them (sorry, I do not have a photo of those ) and easy to move on a flat surface in front and behind the wings resting firmly on the jig.
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Great to revisit that little jewel SE5a, Przemo...
Squiffy, an alternative to cardboard for jigs is sheet styrene; the principal advantages are that it is stiff and can be quickly built up around the subject at hand with small pieces fastened with drops of thin liquid cement... Vincent's Pfalz build illustrates perfectly how I also go about doing this kind of thing, hope he doesn't mind me stealing a pic or two:
(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/11/49/47/92/montag20.jpg)
(http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/11/49/47/92/montag21.jpg)
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Thanks. I will try something like that.
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As no one else seems to have built one of these, or at least hasn't posted pictures that I'm aware of, here's mine...
I eventually overcame the strut location problem by drilling the dimples in the planes deeper (in the end there was no need to pin them) and lined them up by eye, but there are other things to watch out for.
There are no locating holes, or dimples, whatsoever on the fuselage so I compared those on the WNW Pup and drilled accordingly. T top plane does have locating holes but the comparative distance between the cabane struts, fore and aft, is shorter on the HR model than on the WNW, so when I came to put the top plane on, the locating holes in the top plane were in the wrong place! I had to drill new ones to suit.
Another small problem is that the arrow and name decals have been printed so that they face the opposite way to each other. The WNW model has them both facing toward the front so, on one side, I had to cut the arrow off and place it as a seperate item so that it faced forward. The roundels do appear to be too bright and also have the white border for the upper ones so, in line with the WNW model, I replaced them with another set that are darker and do not have the white border.
Good God! My Pup has had a... er... Puplet!
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/soddit36/soddit36179/puplet-001.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/soddit36/media/soddit36179/puplet-001.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/soddit36/soddit36179/puplet-005.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/soddit36/media/soddit36179/puplet-005.jpg.html)
The 72nd scale Pup on its own.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/soddit36/soddit36179/puplet-003.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/soddit36/media/soddit36179/puplet-003.jpg.html)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/soddit36/soddit36179/puplet-002.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/soddit36/media/soddit36179/puplet-002.jpg.html)
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Nice job on the Puplet, Squiffy!
George