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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: mgunns on July 28, 2014, 05:45:15 AM
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Greetings all:
This summer I have been putzing on the WNW Fokker E.II/E.III. I was going to do one in Udets markings, and then Richtoffen and then Immelman's, but; they are all green, so I decided to do this one in the Fokker Beige in Von Crailsheim's markings. Kurt got into flying after being wounded in the infantry, according the WNW instructions and interesting facts, he had one victory. He had two crashes the final one would prove fatal as he succumbed to his injuries 5 days later. It is suspected that this is the one he flew. Either way, I like the scheme and the markings.
The box:
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The model I will be doing
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I really wanted to do an Eindecker as it is a significant aircraft in the history of the Great War and aviation. I wanted to work on the 'swirls' effect. I studied other builds here, Umlaufmotor is a great teacher, and decided, "what the heck" let's go! So I followed the WNW tutorial for doing the swirls, but didn't have any luck with the silver paint, so I used plain old Testors what used to be sold as "PLA" enamel. I started on the cheek panels.
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Cowling:
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And moving on to the side panels on the fuselage. Alone they aren't impressive, but when on the model as a whole they look pretty good.
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As has been mentioned before by those who have done this, critical to the success of 'swirling' is to keep the brush clean, once you get going you get a feel for the way paint flows and can pretty much figure out when it is time to clean the brush. I just used random squiggles, "C"'s and mixed them altogether. I am pretty happy with the overall effect.
After that, I moved on to the interior. More excitement as it occurs, so stay tuned folks!
Best
Mark
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On to the interior:
I followed the sequence per WNW instructions. I didn't break any ground here, other than I can't figure out for the life of me how those pesky PE strips go on the cockpit floor. It's a mystery to me, so I left them out.
Working along with Bertl and others on the Forum, I painted the floor Tamiya XF 78 and painted the two little hatches a mixture of XF78 and some yellow.
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I left the molded on rigging and turnbuckles in as it isn't all that noticeable in the finished model. I then proceeded to apply the wood grain with oils. I painted the hinges a brass, just because I liked the effect.
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My cat shares the house with my wife and I so there is cat hair in some of the paintwork.
I did practice the swirls on the forward portion of the cockpit floor.
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I used Gaspatch 1/48 type C turnbuckles for the rigging attachment points on the Control column and the rudder pedals.
The almost finished interior.
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I used the PE Seatbelts, but next time I am going to opt for the HGW ones. PE is just too fiddly, although they look the part.
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I was happy with the 'weathering of the seat cushion, but the PE belts pretty much cover that up.
I proceeded to continue to assemble the interior. I used EZ line and Bob's Buckles. Care should be taken to run the wire on the back side of the framework. I naturally ran it over the front side and ran into a bit of a problem with the PE part 6, but managed to recover with no noticeable fit problems.
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I painted the interior as called out by WNW and gave the natural metal the swirl treatment and I used the capillary oil method to highlight the access doors. I was happy with the results.
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I then proceeded to button up the fuselage. I filled in the seams and painted the fuselage white. For the frames I used a pencil and then painted the fuselage Tamiya FX 60 as called out by WNW in the instructions. I am happy with the effect.
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One of the things the modeler must be careful of is to drill holes in the bottom of the control column to attach the rigging. Bertl has a great shot of what he did. I drilled the hole prior to fixing the control column to the cockpit floor. Once the fuselage was buttoned up, I took a piece of wire I cut off a Bob's buckles eyelet and fixed it. I then attached one each Gaspatch 1/48 Type C turnbuckle.
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I then attached the rigging that I ran from inside the cockpit to the turnbuckles. In my haste I realized that I had attached the wrong ones. These should have gone to part A45 in the undercarriage, not yet attached. So, upon realizing my mistake, I improvised and attached a length of EZ line through the slots in the underside of the fuselage and will attach those to the part A45 at the appointed time.
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I hate it when I do that and get ahead of myself! >:(
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Moving on the motor. I like the Taurus engine. The folks who have managed to put it together have done outstanding work and it looks like the real thing. Sadly, I don't have the patience to do that, so I used the kit engine. A decent looking engine can be made from the kit one.
I painted it Tamiya Dull Aluminum.
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I then proceeded to pick out the cylinders with a wash of oils using black for the cylinders and Van Dyke brown for the cylinder heads, just to set them apart a bit from the cylinders. I then assembled the push rods, used EZ line for the plug wires, barely visible, weathered it a bit more, picked out some of the details as called out by WNW in the instructions with brass and I think it has the look.
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The backside of the engine showing the plug wires. I wasn't going to attach them as they aren't visible from the front, but they are visible from the back side, so I put them on.
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Yes, folks, more exciting modeling coming your way as we have a barn burner of a card the E.III progress.
Best
Mark
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Mark,
A very impressive array of photos! I like your swirls and the wood work is excellent! The overall cockpit interior is awesome! Love the Engine!!
RAGIII
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Hello Rick:
Thanks for stopping by. Swirlmania my friend, runnin amok here in the great upper Midwest.
So far it has been a fun build. I am working on it slowly as I get a break from my two jobs and life. Gotta keep one's chops up you know. ;)
Best
Mark
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Great progress shots, buddy! I enjoyed the retrospective.
Lindsay
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Looking extremely good Mark, love the swirls and the cockpit interior, the seat cushion is excellent (before it was covered by the belts) and the rigging really looks the part, nice work on the engine also, well done so far.
Des.
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Fantastic so far Mark ! Your swirls turned out really well and I really like your really used seat cushion and can't forget to also mention on your wood effect , very impressive ! Looking forward on the next up-date .
Terri
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Greetings and thanks for following along:
@ Lindsay, I think it is "Old Man" who does a bit of a background on his build logs. I really like that and took a tip from the "Old Man", thanks for following along and compliments.
@ Des, thanks for checking it out and your compliments. So far this is a fun kit and goes together well. Glad you like the "special touches".
@ Terri: Glad you're aboard for this one and glad you like it. Thanks for the compliments.
Best
Mark
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Okay folks, moving on to the undercarriage: this is where the real fun begins as this is critical to the rigging of the airplane. I studied the pictures on page 7 and tried to figure out how in the name of humanity it all went together. I was lost. So, I started to look at the details. Part A45 is critical. It is a small insignificant looking piece but is really critical and important that it be drilled and placed properly.
Here is mine, painted, drilled and complete with the Gaspatch 1/48 turnbuckles. I again used some scrap from Bob's buckles eyelets and attached the turnbuckles to those.
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As you can see I also drilled holes in the tabs, two forward and two aft. It fits in the rear undercarriage with the turnbuckle side forward.
Here is how it looks in the model:
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Here is how it looks in the pictures:
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After assembling the undercarriage, I carefully drilled a hole through the nub on part B3. for placement of the turnbuckles.
The model:
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And again the pictures.
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You can see that by breaking the picture down in details and comparing it with the kit parts it starts to make sense.
Here is a 3/4 shot and you can see where I placed Bob's Buckles eyelets behind the forward support assembly. I used four. You can also see where I placed the Gaspatch turnbuckles to receive the rigging from the fuselage undercarriage attachment points. There are two little divits indicating where the eyelets should go there as well.
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Hopefully this will help anyone building this model.
More excitement as we delve into the undercarriage placement and rigging. Stay tuned, doncha dare miss it!
Best
Mark
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Fantastic work, Mark! Your interior work is brilliant and that engine is perfect. I thought it was a Taurus engine. Love you treatment of the metal panels. This is really moving along. I can't wait for the next update.
Cheers,
Bud
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Can't see what your problem is with the undercarriage rigging Mark, those pictures are as clear as mud ??? ??? ;) I'm sure that you will work it out, once you eliminate the unwanted lines and only concentrate on the ones you are working on it all becomes very clear and quite easy, keep up the excellent work Mark.
Des.
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Wow Mark, great update and lots of incredible detail going on there! The metal work is really nice, not to mention the interior and wood portions. I'll be following this with interest............ 8)
Cheers,
Lance
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Hello guys:
Bud, Des and Lance: Now, when I figure out what all the lines do, it will come together. Of a great help is the Eduard instructions. I downloaded them when I got the EII/III last year. They aren't crystal clear, but helpful. I know the controls were all wing warping and that is what part A25 is all about, the wing warping. I think the forward lines are for support, the back ones are for wing warping, and then there are those pesky undercarriage support lines! Amazing and it all worked! Thanks Bud, Lance and Des for the kind words: much appreciated.
Thanks for following along, more news as it happens.
Best
Mark
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Looking good Mark. I'm raking notes. Really like the wood work and that cussion is fantastic. Love the engine. I'll try the van dyke brown instead of my usual burnt umber. Very very nice. Of course looking at the riggin I am wondering what in the world I was thinking to have started this.
James
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Those swirls look terrific Mark, as does the engine and now the cockpit. I'm seeing this thread for the first time. It looks great.
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Mark,
I have just started working on this kit, so am very happy to have you out there lighting the path for me! I have been trying to figure out how to read that rigging chart, and like James had reached the "what was I thinking?!" moment when I ran across your build log... perfect timing, and very helpful!
Loving what you have done so far. I have been really torn about deciding if I want to add the Taurus engine, and your work has shown me that the kit parts can provide an excellent should I go that route.
Chris
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Glad to have you along Big Blue. We will figure it out.
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mark, Yours is the first Fokker E series builds where the Modeler has actually attempted to show the necessary prep for the rigging process! I must say that I sold my first EIII because I wasn't sure how to connect all of the Dots! perhaps your build will help!
RAGIII
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Hi Rick:
It is confusing, but I figured it out. When I start the rigging, which will be soon I will include detailed photo's of where it all goes. I got it all figured out. Stay with me Rick.
Best
Mark
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Mark, you are doing an amazing job! The swirls, your woodwork, the engine are all
to me, superb. I am really taken with the seat cushion. Could you please let me know
how you did it to show the wear as well as you did? I look forward to the next updates on
this excellent build, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie:)
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Hi Mark,
I also like your work so far especially the different swirls and the seat cushion :) I follow all the 5 (I think) Fokker E type builds that are under construction at the moment, enjoying the good work you all do and shamelessly stealing ideas for my build :)
I am working on exactly the same element of the undercarriage rigging at the moment and studied the pictures very carefully, so I would like to share my opinion with you and the rest of the guys here, as you know the truth is born in the discussion!
My understanding for the rigging and the turnbuckles is that there were only one turnbuckle per cable. Its purpose is to tighten the line and generally it is located where the mechanic can easily access it unless there is some other equirement for its location. Regularly on every end of the cable there is a loop and something like stainless "belt"(don't know the english word for this part) that pins the loop. This is my understanding it is based on observations more than on anything else so it can be totally wrong, I'm not a tech guy or a tinker.
So the purpose of this long interlude is because I think there are no turnbuckles where you put them. Check your own pic, that I shamelessly downloaded and put some arrows on it. The red ones mean that there is no turnbuckle and the green ones show where the turnbuckles is located! Don't take my words for being true, just study the pictures and decide if tehre are, or there aren't turnbuckles and act accordingly ;)
Best regards,
Sasho
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Lovely work all round, Mark! You're moving along very nicely with this build ;)
Keep going!
Cheers,
vB
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The red ones mean that there is no turnbuckle and the green ones show where the turnbuckles is located! Don't take my words for being true, just study the pictures and decide if tehre are, or there aren't turnbuckles and act accordingly ;)
Best regards,
Sasho
Hello Sasho:
Thanks for your ideas. It looks like you are correct. I put the turnbuckles on that Part A45 as to my eyes they looked like turnbuckles. It looks like it could be wires wrapped around a fitting. (There is a name for it which escapes me now) and then wrapped around itself and secured. I super glued the turnbuckles in that part so they are there for the duration for now. However, as each build is a learning experience, I will certainly try the other method and refer back to your pictures with the arrows for reference on the next one. If you look real close you can see that there are two wires coming off that tab as well for redundancy I would imagine. I just may go for that look as well. Lots of planning in the cockpit phase.
Thanks Sasho for the heads up.
Best
Mark
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Those swirls look terrific Mark, as does the engine and now the cockpit. I'm seeing this thread for the first time. It looks great.
Hello Snowy, glad to have you along for the build and your compliments, duly appreciated.
Best
Mark
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Could you please let me know
how you did it to show the wear as well as you did? I look forward to the next updates on
this excellent build, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie:)
Hi Ernie:
Pretty simple really. I painted the seat Testors Leather, let it dry for a day or two, then with black oils used a small amount to highlight the buttons using the capillary method. After a few tries it works pretty good. If you get too much on it, you can sop it up with a Q-tip or a dry brush. Once that has dried I go over it with Testors Model Master Desert sand on a very dry brush, just dry brushing it on for the desired affect. I use the same method using silver to get that worn metal look too. I use a #2 brush, put about a quarter to a half of the brush in the paint, then on a paper towel get as much off as I can and still have some on it; then I dry brush the lettering on the sprues until it barely highlights the letters and then move on to the seat or what ever object I am dry brushing. It should be about as dry as possible. If there is too much on the letters on the sprue, wipe some more off. A little practice and you will have it down.
Hopefully this helps. It's getting later here in the great upper Midwest, but I will post some pictures of how to do it.
Thanks for stopping by, your interest and your compliments, much appreciated.
Best
Mark
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Hello Bob:
Thanks for coming along on this ride and your compliments, much appreciated, it is motivating and keeps my interest up there.
Best
Mark
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Keep it coming Mark. This is turning out to be an insightful thread.
Lindsay
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Very nice choice of schemes and your metal, wood, and leather truly look the part, Mark. This is a very promising build you've got going here and thanks for the detailed tips & observations! This is a kit I haven't attempted yet and when I do I know that I'll be grateful for the benefit of your experience with it.
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Hello Vickers:
Thanks for following and your compliments. I hope that what you find here is helpful and helps to clarify the instructions a bit.
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Okay folks:
A quick update. Having pre-drilled the holes in A45 prior to assembly, I now put in the turnbuckles and commenced with the rigging. I will paint the turnbuckles per the discussion over on FireFox1's build.
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The picture is a bit dark, but it is looking aft towards part 45. You can see the turnbuckles fixed to the part; the angle is a guess at the moment based on the photos in the WNW instruction sheet.
Here is the A45 part with the turnbuckles fixed looking fore. The modeler needs to drill 6 holes in this part. One each on the horizontal tabs for the lines coming out of the fuselage, and two on the fore and two on the aft vertical tabs to attach to the wing rigging.
Once all the turnbuckles are rigged, I will attach it to the fuselage and go from there.
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A bit blurry but I think you can see what it is I am trying to achieve.
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Stay tuned for more exciting news as it occurs and develops out of the "Great Upper Midwest of North America."
Best
Mark
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Morning mark, I keep popping over- it's looking great, this rigging is giving me a headache , I think I'm just going to copy you.... ;D ;D ;)
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Good Morning to you FF1:
I can sense some frustration in your post. Yes, by all means copy me if you find it easier and hopefully it will help you through the rigging process.
Best of luck
Mark
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Mark,
Thanks again for the detailed photos of this/your process! Who knows, by the time you finish my fear of the rigging on this one may go away ;D
RAGIII
PS: What buckles are you using?
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Hi Rick:
I am using the Gaspatch 1/48 type C, I think they are. They are the ones that are open on both ends. I attach the open end to a piece of BOb's Buckles eyelet that I cut from the Eyelet and put through the hole. I imagine a piece of streched sprue or some other device could be used equally as successful. This was expedient for me and it works. I think I got the angle pretty close, as the turbuckles are somewhat brittle there is little room for bending before they snap. Caveat Emptor!
Other than that, I think they work pretty good and then of course I use Bob's Buckles cut tubing to attach the wire. It may not be totally authentic, but it works. A little silver or steel paint and I call it good. This working two jobs really cuts into the bench time during the summer here in the great upper midwest. Come November I get my Saturday's back.
Thanks for checking in.
Best
Mark
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Hi mark,
When rigging the undercarriage..... What type of turnbuckles would be used to attach the cable to the wings, I have had the gas patches turnbuckles come today, types A, one sided , and plain anchor bolts,
Many thanks
Dave
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Very nice job on those details Mark with the turn buckles 8)
Terri
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Hi mark,
When rigging the undercarriage..... What type of turnbuckles would be used to attach the cable to the wings, I have had the gas patches turnbuckles come today, types A, one sided , and plain anchor bolts,
Many thanks
Dave
Hi Dave:
I haven't gotten to that stage of the build yet, but: I am going to use the Gaspatch 1/48 type A turnbuckle:
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I will then attach the rigging material using Bob's buckles tubing to secure the thread.
Hope this helps.
Mark
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Love this thread. So much to learn. As for the turn buckles I have been double knotting and securing with cyano. Watching with great interest.
James
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Very nice job on those details Mark with the turn buckles 8)
Hi Terri:
Thanks for stopping by and your compliments, glad you're aboard for this ride. Battery went dead in the camera. I just finished rigging the undercarriage. So far so good. More pics once the battery is charged.
Best
Mark
Terri
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As I just remarked to James, Mark, this is not an easy Build. Both of your Threads will be invaluable when I decide to start this one, keep up the great work!
Cheers,
Lance
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Outstanding job sorting out the rigging points, Mark. As Lance said, these Eindeckers are far more complex than they appear.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hi Mark,
I have totally overlooked your Eindecker built log.
Great work with the turnbuckles on your Eindecker landing gear.
I'm curently working on the landing gear on my WNW E.I Eindecker.
This rigging work on the undercarriage is still ahead of me............ ;D
Servus
Bertl
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Turnbuckle-Tastic, Mark!
Nice connection points. I'm looking forward to seeing more ;)
vB
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This is one incredible build. Fantastic detail and superb painting of the interior. First class modelling all round without a doubt.
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Greetings folks:
Lance: Glad that this "tutorial" will help with your build. I hope you find it useful. Thanks for coming along on this build.
Bud: Glad to have you with on this one as well. I appreciate your comments.
Bertl: Thanks for following along and your comments. I hope that you can find my landing gear rigging useful. Thanks for being aboard.
Bob V B: Thanks for being on board and your comments.
LM: Thanks for your compliments and glad your aboard and happy to see that you are finding the comments and photo's useful.
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Okay folks: Just a couple of photo's right now. I rigged the landing gear and left the underwing rigging lying loose. Hopefully you can see where the attachment points are and how it all fits. I used EZ line as I had to adjust the angle of Gaspatch Turnbuckles and in that small space trying to adjust the monofiliment rigging was too cumbersome. I will be using the Monofiliment for the wings though.
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01363.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01363.jpg.html)
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01366.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01366.jpg.html)
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01365.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01365.jpg.html)
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01364.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01364.jpg.html)
I have sinced tried weathering the fuselage and wings using the airbrush and a mix of acrylics to get an oily look. Pics forthcoming.
Best
Mark
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Really looking great Mark, nice one.. I broke my undercarriage today,in three parts pushing one of the wheels on, superglue to the rescue, I need to order some bits from Gas patch, you said you have use 1/48 scale, turnbuckles, do you find the scale works better on 1/32 WNWs
Regards
Dave
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Really looking great Mark, nice one.. I broke my undercarriage today,in three parts pushing one of the wheels on, superglue to the rescue, I need to order some bits from Gas patch, you said you have use 1/48 scale, turnbuckles, do you find the scale works better on 1/32 WNWs
Regards
Dave
Hello Dave: Thanks for stopping by and the compliments, much appreciated. I like the 1/48 as they seem to be more scale than the 1/32nd one. Some of the holes need to be drilled out due to material residue, but otherwise the rigging line fits nicely through the holes.
Best
Mark
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Fantastic rigging work, Mark. Looking more like the real thing every day!
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Awesome work Mark, the cowling looks really great.
Mark
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Hello, Mark -
Coming along lovely. Good luck with the rest of the rigging - what you have done so far looks very good to me.
Regards
Dave
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Like the others have said the rigging is looking excellent! As for the breaking of the gear, I have found,(How do I Know), that you really need to mount the wheels on WNW kits when they say to in the instructions. Otherwise breakage is a likely prospect
RAGIII
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Great job with the model. I have two Fokker E.III in stocks, as I take up for implementation, surely will be inspired by your Fokker.
Jacek
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Nicely done with the rigging Mark, you have taken a very sensible approach to a somewhat complex procedure, looking forward to more updates.
Des.
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Greetings gents:
@ Vickers: Thanks for the compliments and stopping by. Means a lot and compliments are most encouraging and motivating.
@ Mark: Hello Mark, thank you for stopping by, checking in and your compliments. Duly appreciated.
@ Dave: Hello Dave, thanks for checking in and your compliments. I should be making more progress on rigging anon and posting.
@ Rick: Glad you are along for this ride. Yes, it is always good to get the wheels on before the model is almost completed. Dry fitting is essential.
@ Jacek: Hello Jacke, thanks for stopping by and your compliments. Good luck with your builds. It is a fun build and the rigging of the undercarriage isn't that bad, just takes time to figure it out.
@ Des: Always nice to have you check out the builds. I appreciate your comments and compliments, thanks for stopping by.
More modeling news as it occurs folks.
Best
Mark
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Mark, that is superb work. Amazing rigging! Thanks for sharing your magic, my friend. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Looking fantastic. Started the landing gear today and am looking at your pics quite intensly now. Hope it works as well for me as yours has. Great work.
James
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Okay folks:
Made some progress on the EII. This view shows the rigging front underside and the attachment points. I tried to divine from the instructions, the Eduard instructions and the photo's which line went to which control point. This is my best guess. I am using a combination of EZ line and monofilament. My plan is to rig the underside, leave the monofilament un fixed until I do the upper and then tighten the underside so the wings are level and even, fix and call it good.
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01368.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01368.jpg.html)
I painted the turnbuckles green and red per the discussion on one of the other builds.
On this image you can see that the forward turnbuckles go to the inboard attachments and the rear turnbuckles go to the outboard.
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01369.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01369.jpg.html)
Also visible is my attempt at staining. Not real convincing but I am taking a slow less is more approach to weathering. I am using oils.
Here you can see that the wings do sag and need the strength of a monofilament for support.
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01370.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01370.jpg.html)
Here is an example of some of my weathering. I just airbrushed a mixture that looked like stain and sprayed it on. I am not totally convinced but this is an experiment and I will pass what I learn on the next model. I was going to use the Steve Robson wheels on this one, but will use them on another one.
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01371.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01371.jpg.html)
The wings and the airbrush weathering.
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01372.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01372.jpg.html)
And some of the fuselage weathering.
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01373.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01373.jpg.html)
That's about it for now folks. I want to get back to the build and get the wings straightened out.
Thanks for looking and comments.
Best
Mark
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Looking pretty good Mark, the rigging has turned out well so far, the top rigging will take all the weight though. Your weathering looks good in my eyes, a different approach but has turned out looking good, keep up the great work.
Des.
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The rigging's coming along beautifully, Mark, and your weathering looks fantastic. She's a winner, my friend.
Cheers,
Bud
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The rigging's coming along beautifully, Mark, and your weathering looks fantastic. She's a winner, my friend.
Cheers,
Bud
What Bud said. :D Great work, Mark!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Looks great! A question about the wing droop. Is there anything that could be done during construction to minimize the effect of the weight pulling down? Or is it as discussed a matter of tension on the upper surface wires?
RAGIII
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Thanks guys:
Des: As always, thanks for stopping by and your compliments, glad for it.
Bud: Per usual, again, thanks for looking in and checking it out, much appreciated.
Ernie: Thanks for looking and your compliments.
Rick: I am not sure if there is anything that could be done short of bending the tabs to compensate for the sag. I rigged the underside, but; just left them unsecured until I got the top wing rigged and fastened. I used a combination of EZ line and that "Maxima Chameleon" 2lb test fishing line. Both are copper colored and are indistinguishable from each other. Once I get the upper wing rigged, I will then go to the underside and fix the rigging at their attachment points. The cabane strut isn't the strongest fixture so I am using the Maxima line for the rear upper support and EZ line for the forward supports to relieve the stress on the cabane strut and the plastic turnbuckles. Seems to be working. Photo's will be forthcoming as I am on the home stretch.
Thanks again folks for scoping it out and your interest.
Best
Mark
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Okay folks:
The Eindecker "Barn Burner" is finally finished. I am pretty happy with the results. I will do some things differently on another Eindecker, but otherwise will probably follow my same path of assembly.
I used monofilament for the aft upper support lines to provide strength. As the cabane assembly is somewhat fragile, I used EZ line for the forward support lines. I used Monofilament as the forward cabane bracing wires to add strength as well. Through moving and adjusting I managed to get the wings fairly level.
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01375.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01375.jpg.html)
For the underside, I used the same sequence. I used monofilament for the aft and EZ line for the forward. I think if I did this again I would EZ line only on the underside. For the undercarriage supports I used monofilament for strength and structural integrity.
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01381.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01381.jpg.html)
I attempted some weathering. I am still trying to come up with a method that I like and looks authentic, for now I am fairly pleased with the results that I have achieved using the airbrush and oils.
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01383.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01383.jpg.html)
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01379.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01379.jpg.html)
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01383.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01383.jpg.html)
The model was built OOB with no 'gotchas' or problems. I used Gaspatch 1/48 Turnbuckles for the undersides and 1/32nd for the upper, only because I misplaced the 1/48 ones. Maybe the cat ate them! >:( I used EZ line and "Maxima Chameleon" 2lb test. They work well together as they are both copper colored and appear to be the same thinckness. Of course, all attachments were accomplished using Bob's Buckles eyelets and tubes.
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01377.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01377.jpg.html)
I used a pencil to outline the rib detail on the rudder:
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01382.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01382.jpg.html)
And another shot of the undercarriage:
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01380.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01380.jpg.html)
(http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01384.jpg) (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/FokkerEIII_EIV/DSC01384.jpg.html)
I would recommend the kit to anyone. The swirls take some to do, but with some practice and patience a decent swirl job will ensue.
Thanks to everyone for stopping by, the compliments, exhortations and sound advice.
Best
Mark
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She turned out to be a stunning model Mark, the rigging is superb and the overall finish on the plane is excellent, congratulations on an outstanding build.
Des.
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Absolutely Stunning mark! The wings are straight and the weathering and final finish perfect!
RAGIII
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Thanks Des and Rick: Appreciate the compliments and stopping by. I noticed I forgot to put the windscreen on!! DOH!
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She is gorgeous Mark !
You did a super job on the rigging and your weathering is out standing :) Every build your getting better at better :) :) :)
What's next ?
Terri
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Mark,
Congratulations on a fantastic looking Eindecker! I can only hope mine turns out as well, and thanks to your helpful build log, the odds of that are certainly better than they would otherwise be. Really nice!
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Thanks Terri and Big Blue, duly appreciated and I hope you find some helpful hints along the way.
@Terri: Thanks Terri for stopping by and your kind words. Each one is always the learning experience. Not sure what I am going to do next. Something allied I am thinking. I have to get on board for the DVII GB as well and get that going. So many kits so little......alas.
@Big Blue: Glad you were on board. Once I figured out the rigging attachment points for the lower wing, it was a piece of cake. Hopefully my log will help over that hurdle. Thanks gain.
Best
Mark
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Mark,
Very nicely done, I like everything about it. The rigging is particularly well finished and the overall finish with weathering, the "swirling", and the detailing all combine to make this one a real eye catcher. You've done a beautiful job on her, and can be very proud of an outstanding finished product!
Cheers,
Lance
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Very impressive work, Mark! She's perfect. I've never been much of an Eindecker fan, but you converted me.
Cheers,
Bud
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Nice work, Mark. I really enjoyed following this build.
Lindsay
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Just superb, Mark! I am a fan of the Eindekker and you have done a wonderful
job of yours. I plan to do Kurt Von Crailsheim's aeroplane and will be able to
look to yours for inspiration. Well done, my friend :D.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Looks fantastic. Nice weathering and great rigging. Very very nice.
James
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Mark your model looks awesome.
Recently I finished Fokker E.II and with the same painting.
Adam.