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The Trading Table => Buy - Sell - Swap - Trade => Topic started by: ALBATROS1234 on July 22, 2014, 02:18:20 PM
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i saw this on ebay, starting bid $99. if i didnt have my own copy i would bid on this. generally they go for $300. i must say its a must if you have interest in a/h ww1 planes it is the best ref for these craft hands down.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN-ARMY-AIRCRAFT-OF-WORLD-WAR-ONE-BY-GROSZ-HADDOW-SCHIEMER-/161371331989?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25927b1d95
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And in big red writing - Does not ship to Australia WHY??
Des.
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i dont know, i just bumped into it and thought i would post for my pals here. ugh err sorry, didnt notice the restrictions.
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i dont see those restrictions. maybe it only shows on your computer because you are there? i see no shipping restrictions perhaps cuz im in the u.s.?
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Thanks for posting the ad Scott and I'm sure that someone in the States will grab it pretty quickly.
What annoys me is that why put restrictions on where the item is going to be posted, the buyer pays for the post and packaging anyway, it is no skin off the nose of the seller.
Most restrictions on ebay only appear in the country where it is being viewed.
Des.
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i spose its easier cuz the guy kinda knows what the rate will be inside the u.s. this book is freakin huge and heavy . maybe overseas rates vary so the shipper doesnt want the extra step. all he would have to do is charge a flat rate for overseas then after shipping refund the diff to whomever once you get the exact total. really great book. last year i found a guy that said $300 obo so i sent an email offering $240 plus shipping and he bit so i got one. its my favorite book and i got some stacks of books.
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Does not ship to Australia due to needing a container ship to carry the weight! :)
It's a tome of a book and not exactly what you would call feather light ;)
I need to dig out my mint copy and sling it on ebay for the highest bidder. Should fetch me a couple of WNW's me thinks.
VB
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It weighs an absolute ton, that's probably why it does not ship to Aus & NZ.
I've got one for sale on Amazon.co.uk: (I'm Warbird Books);
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Austro-Hungarian-Army-Aircraft-World-War/dp/0963711008/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406027310&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN+ARMY+AIRCRAFT+OF+WORLD+WAR+ONE+BY+GROSZ%2C+HADDOW%2C+%26+SCHIEMER (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Austro-Hungarian-Army-Aircraft-World-War/dp/0963711008/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406027310&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN+ARMY+AIRCRAFT+OF+WORLD+WAR+ONE+BY+GROSZ%2C+HADDOW%2C+%26+SCHIEMER)
First Edition, signed by Peter Grosz. It's a hell of a book, but probably the most expensive one I sell.
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It’s a wonderful book.
I saw a new one for sale, not that long ago, at the original price. I’ll look into this (availability) and shipping costs. Can’t make promises but I’d be optimistic.
I reckon a couple of copies made it down to Oz when first published; got mine a few years ago.
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yes, it is a really big and heavy book. its oversized in length and width as well as being thick and extremely heavy.and i use it all the time and it is the best for a/h ww1 enthusiast. it has appendices and all kinda of statistical info on the planes , the manufacturers etc.etc.etc. it took me several sit downs to be able to digest what all was in there.it has photos ive never seen anywhere. its just massive. and it doesnt even include naval craft. if you have this and windsock datafiles on the main a/h types its all you would ever need to model or scratch build a/h army craft of ww1. i love it.its worth the money . to be honest i dont get why the havent done another printing. they could retail it at $150 easy and sell 1000 the first day.
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Found one, it’s in Oz.
AUD$160.00
I don’t know about the shipping costs to NZ.
I agree with ALBATROS1234. I was very excited to see all the in-field aircraft with their nasty little canvas wheels covers off. Clearly, I have a (diminishing) vested interest in promoting spoked wheels. An important point about this book is that the period photos were widely sourced and quite independent of any concerns about the wheels when the book was published.
Just goes to show what a large, representative sample of the period photography reveals.
? Second printing: I always understood that after the first edition was sold, the copyright reverts to the original author/owner. Subsequent printings have to be re-negotiated and the author gets paid again by the publishing house. Great if you've got a best seller. This doesn't apply to the nasty little E-books; once sold the publisher has got it forever.
Do you think Justin still wants this book?
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I got the book Rittmeister. It’s still in its plastic cover.
Can collect it on Friday. Shipping could be Monday or more likely when I get back from Indonesia around 9 August. You can have this one at cost plus shipping with receipts.
Best that you get this one from me Justin, I reckon the centre fold pages of Bob Von B’s copy are stuck together! ;D
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Austro-Hungarian Army Aircraft of World War One, Peter M. Grosz, George Haddow & Peter Schiemer, Flying Machines Press
Weight = 2,891 grams
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that is awesome that steve was able to do that for you justin. its worth it.
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Steve's an excellent chap :)
That, he is!
Cheers,
Bud
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Steve's an excellent chap :)
That, he is!
Cheers,
Bud
But watch out for his evil twin
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Steve's an excellent chap :)
That, he is!
Cheers,
Bud
But watch out for his evil twin
I've met him, but then we all have one of those, don't we. ;)
Cheers,
Bud
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Each book shipped with a free pussy cat!
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Dougal finishes chapter 1
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Poppy: "Ohhhh, Uncle Bo, I'm not really evil, Steven just photographs me that way."
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HA! Fooled you all, yes we are evil; just traded the Rittmeister's book for fish.
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i think thats the first edition, i have a different dust cover. the white one with the planes on it, like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Austro-Hungarian-Army-Aircraft-World-War/dp/0963711008
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Hmmm, I reckon you're right. This one doesn't have a dustcover either, it's the same as the one I got quite a while ago but has sat on the shelf for a long time. Best it finds a good home and gets loved.
Lucky Rittmeister, I just posted his book cat.
He'll have to let us all know when it arrives in The land of the Long White Cloud.
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Dougal leaves home to go and live with Justin in New Zealand
I got a few strange looks in the post office today.
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oh so that black cover is the actual book. mine is just a big dull red fabric looking hardcover book with the whitish dust cover(depicted in the link i placed above) with the aircraft depicted on it. i heard there were two editions released. i will have to check mine and see which it is. i read somewhere one edition had color profiles and the other didnt. mine has them.?
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Justin, the one Steven is sending you, along with Dougal, is the second edition, the same one I have. Scott, yours is the first edition with the profiles. With or without the profiles, it is an absolutely superb book. It's the copious, excellent photographs that make it such an invaluable resource. Mine is full of bookmarks. For anyone who loves Austro-Hungarian aircraft, this is a must have. I'm glad you were able to get your hands on one, Justin, and, Steve, you are an excellent chap, evil twin(s) and all, for sending it too him.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks Bud :)
Here's my well pawed copy. Dougal says no colour profiles and a second edition.
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ah, i didnt remember which one i had. it has to be the first. to be honest i have looked at the color profiles but its the least interesting part of the book.anyone experienced with ww1 a/h aviation will have seen similar profiles on wings palette or wherever. the things i found neat were the way the manufacturers where organized and the way the serial numbers related to certain manufacturers. like lohner is 1 phonix 2 etc so you get lloyd is 4 so a lloyd serial number would look like for a c.v would be say 46.07 meaning its a series 46 number 07. but a wkf built lloyd c.v was series 82 cuz wkf was 8. so a wkf built lloyd c.v serial number would look like this 82.20 or whatever. it seems simple but the more manufacturers and stuff it actually gets a bit complicated. neat stuff . you are in for a good read justin. i will be you favorite book for a bit. i also like the info on all the prototypes especially the aviatik and lloyd stuff. you will see stuff and go" what the hell were these guys thinking"
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I've got this version in my stash ;)
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Poppy: "Ohhhh, Uncle Bo, I'm not really evil, Steven just photographs me that way."
Awwwwww that's pretty darn cute... I'll see your Poppy raise you one Mickey:
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Other interesting books in a similar vein ;
German Aircraft of the First World War, Thetford. Superb record of all German types, hampered only by relatively small page size;
British Aeroplanes 1914-18 , J M Bruce. Definitive collection of all British types, 740 odd pages. Included interesting analysis of every type.
French Aircraft of the First World War, Davilla & Soltan. 600+ quality pages! including fold-out plans, for when WNW get around to Nieuports & SPADs.
Italian Aces of WWI & their Aircraft, Gentilli. The definitive Italian analysis, 600 glossy, lovely pages.
The Imperial Russian Air Service, Durkata. Massive, glossy, colourful, epic. The definitive work on the subject, even if most types are French.
That lot will give you a good, broad, high quality, in depth library of pretty much every type of WWI aircraft, save the Curtiss Jenny perhaps! But it will be expensive, so watch EBay. They do come up occasionally at reasonable money.
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Thanks for the references Dekenba :)
Bob Von Buckles has got a nice one, let's sell him his book to the highest bidder for fun.
Mickey Mickey Mickey, your so hansom, here's a big X on your nose (now go play with Uncle Bo's models)
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