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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: LindsayT on July 18, 2014, 05:35:36 AM
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Well, if it's on the internet, it's gotta be true. I'm in for the group build. Going with this one:
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/Fokker%20DVII/Capture_zps242c648a.png)
Piloted by this guy:
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/Fokker%20DVII/c014058_zps6ad040cc.jpg)
Looking forward to it! Should be fun, and I know I'll learn a lot. Thanks to Des for organizing this, and thanks to the sponsors. Good luck to all the other Groupies.
Lindsay
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Great to see this one being done, Lindsay! I have the decals, but will not get to it for many moons. ;) Looking forward to this one under your very capable hands.
Regards,
Bob
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Looks like a Cool Scheme! Looking forward to your build!
RAGIII
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Excellent choice Lindsay; now if we can just convince some gullible...er ......accommodating Member to do the Knowlton Bird we'll have the special Pheon Sheet completed! 8)
Cheers,
Lance
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That is an excellent choice, Lindsay. Really unusual but should make
a stunning model.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thanks, gents. I'm looking forward to starting, but I've heard enough about the DVIIs that I'm a little spooked. Precisions on the order of angstroms, they say!
And yes, Ernie, this one is all about the scheme. I'm kind of like Lance, minus the master craftsman part; neither of us are crazy about the DVII, per se, but rather are intrigued by the stories of the men who flew them. I've always found Barker to be a very sad and almost tragic figure, and too often forgotten by a Canadian public that most likely couldn't find Vimy on a map, let a lone tell you who is their most decorated hero.
The "50" scheme looks cool, but for me represents the only place where I imagine Barker was at peace after the war.
Looking forward to getting the jump on this one. I'm pretty pleased with my choice.
Lindsay
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Great news Lindsay! I was intending to build Barker's '50' as my contribution to Lance, Trackpad and my small GB of Canadian D.VII's but I became overly enamoured with the maple leaf and have therefore put it off until this current project is complete. Now I'll happily let you break trail on this project so I can reap the benefits of your experience with it. Barker is my favourite flyer of the First Great Unpleasantness and if you haven't already read Wayne Ralph's Barker VC, I highly recommend it.
Cheers,
Chris
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Excellent choice, Lindsay! Like Chris, I've read "Barker VC" and, after my great uncle, Barker is my second favorite Great War pilot.
I also have these markings and was considering this scheme for the GB, but continuing in 1/48 scale won out.
Looking forward to following your build.
Cheers,
Bud
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Very cool Lindsay. I was completly unaware of this scheme until recently. I think I'll do some reading on Barker too. Looking forward to your build.
Mark
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Thanks, guys! Just waiting for the kit to arrive now.
Chris, it was Ralph's book that really got me interested in Barker! Great writing, great pictures. I totally agree with your and Bud's endorsement.
Thanks for checking in.
LT
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Welcome to the GB Lindsay, I'll be looking forward to seeing you display your magic again.
Des.
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Many thanks for organizing the GB, Des. I know it takes a lot of effort on your part.
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Hello Lindsay:
I too am intrigued by Barker and this looks like a neat scheme and a great reason for doing it. I will be following along with interest and look forward to your updates.
Best
Mark
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Hello Lindsay. Like Mark I've only recently become aware of this scheme and it certainly adds another interesting dimension to the group build. Good luck with it.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Looking forward to seeing this one Lindsay. A simple scheme but it looks really good - I love that big 50 on the side of the fuselage!
Tom
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Thanks for the comments, gents!
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All right, made a start. I don't have much for a workspace right now, and won't be painting in the near term. I'm occupying myself instead with some dry fitting exercises to avoid surprises down the line.
First off, the cockpit and steel tube fuselage. It looks, and is confirmed by others, that this is the critical path for the entire build. Precision is a must here. Took me much longer than I care to admit to get this:
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/Fokker%20DVII/fdd0817368723b2b796f0bac4ee3602f_zps2b8e5f78.jpg)
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/Fokker%20DVII/7106b0876b9f519b28f7da402479d95d_zps6890e9aa.jpg)
Positive locating holes are oxygen for this kit:
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/Fokker%20DVII/56c3fc5ea680c55633fe316c48f4d3a4_zps898b8145.jpg)
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/Fokker%20DVII/293408f17c414cdd35572b5bd1f79d5c_zps8a6584dc.jpg)
Especially with the fuselage. You've gotta make sure there's something positive to seat on, no matter how small it may be.
Tried seeing how this would fit inside the skinned fuse. Turned out to be another illustration of the tight tolerances for this kit. Even a couple of strips of Tamiya tape were too much:
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/Fokker%20DVII/a254d632dac29ccfb61ae64bcdbf262c_zps50b48c61.jpg)
Took them off and tried it again. It's a bit better, but not good enough:
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/Fokker%20DVII/38b3bc1ad33cb8e789c3380d9858f556_zps37f28a2d.jpg)
I think part of the problem is the locating pin at the cockpit coaming. It looked like it got bent, so like a moron I tried to bend it back with predictable results. Well, the fit is better now! ::)
I'd love to hear how others are approaching the fit tolerances, and any booby traps that lay ahead.
Thanks for checking in,
Lindsay
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Nice to see you making a start Lindsay and you are taking a very sensible approach by trial fitting all parts before final assembly. The tight tolerances are very well known with nearly all of the Wingnut kits but it is a fact that has to be taken into consideration when building any of their kits, even just one thickness of paint can throw the whole assembly out of whack. Good luck with your build Lindsay, I look forward to watching your progress.
Des.
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Great start Lindsay. Another very interesting scheme, one I was not aware of.
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Nice choice here Lindsay! :)
These are very attractive machines, these Canadian D.VIIs.
Cheers, Jay
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Good approach.
As for tips on fitting the cockpit assembly.
1/ Sand all the pips details etc off the outer face of the framework everywhere back from the firewall point (you can't see it anyway and it gives toy a bit of breathing space.
2/ Sand the edges of the panel behind the seat top sides and bottom. You can be forgiven for removing a little extra at the top and especially at the bottom if you assemble like I do and give yourself a little jiggle room. ::)
3? sand the pips that hold the ammo and spent cartridge belts containers a little and ensure there's no build up in the locating points.
Hope this helps a bit Lindsay.
Cheers Keith
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As I am doomed to finish this build dead last, I hope to learn from
every one's experiences with the build. Lindsay and Keith, thank you
for the tips. Positive start, Lindsay, my friend. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Nice start. Your test fitting will certainly pay off in the end!
RAGIII
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I'd love to hear how others are approaching the fit tolerances, and any booby traps that lay ahead.
Don't sweat it Lindsay. Your fuselage looks exactly like mine did when I started to button it up. Follow the instructions exactly when you get to that point as they say to glue the top first, and then do the bottom. By doing that, I was able to get a good fitting, strong joint on the top spine using super glue, kicker, and finger pressure. Then I moved to the bottom joint and again, following the same process, I pushed that seam together and ended up with another good joint. It does appear at first glance that the tolerances are too tight (and practically speaking they are), but you can make it work.
Cheers,
Chris
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Thanks very much for the encouragement, gents. Much appreciated.
Ernie, you shouldn't be too quick to claim the caboose. I'll be there reading page three of the instructions long after you're done!
Keith and Chris, thanks very much for the insight. This is exactly why I post, even if it's really early progress. The build log is paying dividends already!
Lindsay
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Very interesting scheme choice . Never seen this one before , looking forward on your progress .
Terri