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Title: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: stefanbuss on July 09, 2014, 10:18:01 PM
Friends,

just to report some things you shouldn't do. This is (of course) WNW's DV, combined with Pheon's marvellous decals. The build started as the striped DV of JaSta B, over one year ago, but changed after Bo announced his plans for the Mega Build. As I am nowhere near to Bo's level of excellency, I had to change, not to be too ashamed when comparing his (to be expected) masterpiece with my meagre results.

The wife liked Schnucki's design best of Rowan's decal sheet (Albatros No4), so it had to be Schnucki. Of course that one is an unarmed trainer, which meant Ammo bins and MGs and whatever were superflous, suddenly. Good that those parts where already finished...

My idea now was to show the Albatros near it's end of life, with a very rough, partially discoloured airframe. I didn't want to waste WNW's engine under a tarp, so another one from Roden was used. The nearly finished kit's (original) engine is now waiting for another aircraft, to be build in future times.

Anyway, just one small photo of where I am at the moment, waiting for some washers for the underbelly (Schnucki's, not mine).

(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/6432333566646361.jpg)

More to follow shortly , (maybe).
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: mgunns on July 10, 2014, 04:36:06 AM
Hello Stefanbus:

Well, it looks good from the vantage point of your photograph.  Is the finished model going to be without wings?  Could you post a pic of the artwork for Schnucki?
You've got my curiosity piqued on this one and I will be following along to see how you are doing.
Thanks
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: uncletony on July 10, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
Ah, Geeze, Stefan, at my rate my Jasta B zebra won't be built til 2050 so plenty of time to rethink ;)

Anyway, Schnucki looks lovely to me so far! Very cool. Looking forward to more pics.
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: RAGIII on July 10, 2014, 10:53:08 AM
Looks good to me! I like the idea of the worn out ready to retire look. The tarp is an interesting addition and certainly does give you the ability to use the WNW engine in a DIII? Looking forward to your progress,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: stefanbuss on July 11, 2014, 12:03:50 AM
Thank you for your kind words.

Just to show you some more details of what I did, but first to start with the requested artwork, which is of course made by Rowan Broadbent. There exist some photos of Schnucki in real life at Flieger-Ersatz-Abteilung 6, but those will be shown together with the finished model.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/6266353438393435.jpg)

The kit received a complete interior and a revised landing gear (those photos I talked about show that Schnucki did not have that aerodynamic fairing on the landing gear axle that is so typical for the DV/DVA family). I used some of Jamo's photos for comparison (I hope you don't mind, James. In case you do, just send me a pm and I will remowe the pictures, no problem). The compass' indication is on purpose, as Schnucki will be standing on a tailstand later on. The aileron cables are disconnected as per original (of course you cannot see this properly now that the fuselage is closed up, but I know it's there...). Wiring of fuel tank and equipment was done in areas that will still be visible later on (lazy guy, I know).
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3361323866396439.jpg)
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3264366438306239.jpg)

As my model will be displayed sans wings, I had to work a bit on the cabane strut fittings (the cabane struts will be attached to the model, just to show of the red colour). The struts have been hollowed at the top (where the attaching bolts from the upper wing would be inserted), to show the safety bolts that are inserted into the cabane struts.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/6231373464343931.jpg)

The last photo shows a bit of the worn and distressed paint. This I did using oil paints only, removing some layers in worn areas again after some weeks of drying time. This resulted in an overall used look, that I hope is convincing.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3536393232356664.jpg)

So much for now,

Stefan
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: lcarroll on July 11, 2014, 02:38:22 AM
Stefan,
   Very interesting project, something very unique. The interior is outstanding, some really beautiful work done there. I'll enjoy following you along on this.
Cheers,
Lance
     
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: coyotemagic on July 11, 2014, 02:52:05 AM
Outstanding work on the interior, Stefan.  The scheme is really cool.  This will be fun to watch.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: RAGIII on July 11, 2014, 09:31:01 AM
Outstanding work on the interior, Stefan.  The scheme is really cool.  This will be fun to watch.
Cheers,
Bud

I agree with my Amigo on the Interior work! Absolutely Stunning!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: Alexis on July 12, 2014, 09:15:01 AM
Nice job on the details  :)






Terri
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: uncletony on July 19, 2014, 09:19:31 PM
As my model will be displayed sans wings, I had to work a bit on the cabane strut fittings (the cabane struts will be attached to the model, just to show of the red colour). The struts have been hollowed at the top (where the attaching bolts from the upper wing would be inserted), to show the safety bolts that are inserted into the cabane struts.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/6231373464343931.jpg)

This is cool... I missed this update while I was traveling recently. You read the ends of the safety bolts as having loops on them? To me it looks in the Jamo photos like a slotted screw head, but I remember Dave Douglas also mentioned loops ... I'll have to study this some more ...

Cheers
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: Umlaufmotor on July 20, 2014, 05:48:26 AM
Stefan is right, Bo - the safety pins actually had a welded ring.

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h342/ASKundASK/Baldachindetail.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/ASKundASK/media/Baldachindetail.jpg.html)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h342/ASKundASK/Detail-radiator20Daimler-Mercedes20Albatros20D_Va2020unidentified_zps2bdb06f7.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/ASKundASK/media/Detail-radiator20Daimler-Mercedes20Albatros20D_Va2020unidentified_zps2bdb06f7.jpg.html)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h342/ASKundASK/Detail-struts20cabane20Albatros20D_V20Vzfw20Winkler_20Note20small20serial20number_zps43c16bc8.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/ASKundASK/media/Detail-struts20cabane20Albatros20D_V20Vzfw20Winkler_20Note20small20serial20number_zps43c16bc8.jpg.html)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h342/ASKundASK/DIII22a.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/ASKundASK/media/DIII22a.jpg.html)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h342/ASKundASK/DIII78a.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/ASKundASK/media/DIII78a.jpg.html)

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: uncletony on July 20, 2014, 11:58:44 AM
Yeah after I posted my note I looked again and saw that what I thought was a screw slot was the shadow of the ring(!)

Thanks for the enlightenment.

Cheers

Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: stefanbuss on July 20, 2014, 04:25:50 PM
First thing I did this morning was to look through WNW's instructios, to find the photo I used - only to see that Bertl was faster than me.
Anyway, the photo I used is to be found on page 13 (the one with Max Kahlow).

Stefan
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: uncletony on July 20, 2014, 09:35:18 PM
Yes it is unmistakable once one looks at the right pictures!  :)
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: stefanbuss on July 22, 2014, 11:14:41 PM
Bo has left for holidays - a good opportunity for me to show my humble progress. I just managed to add small details on the underside. The glossy brass parts add a nice contrast to the comparatively matte fuselage.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/6130343830326633.jpg)
Next steps are adding stains for oil and fuel, plus rigging the elevator.

Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: uncletony on July 23, 2014, 09:41:53 AM
Very nice Stefan. You used washers?
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: stefanbuss on July 23, 2014, 03:27:36 PM
Thank you Bo. I drilled the drainage holes and then used washers to replicate the brass rings.
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: RAGIII on July 24, 2014, 09:07:03 AM
Stefan,
Your attention to detail is amazing! You are reminding me of bertl and Bo!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: stefanbuss on August 04, 2014, 11:16:54 PM
RagIII, thank you for the compliment - but I am aware in which league I am playing. Somewhere very much below the levels of Messiers Bo and Bertl.

Anyway, some progress has been made since last time:
Starting with a view of Schnucki's belly, including the fuel valve and some minor staining
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3932643735613461.jpg)

we have a general view of her port side
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3765303861613539.jpg)
with some details to show:

Oil splattering
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3737303566386430.jpg)

the safety pins we were discussing about in some earlier postings
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3230626539353238.jpg)
(diameter of those pins is 0,4mm)

One of the coolant pipes, which actually is hollow. The end will be very visible at the end so I could't use WNW'S part
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3333633530633265.jpg)
It's more impressive in real life, as I didn't succeed to show the rubber fittings very well.

Anyway, I hope you like it.

Stefan

edit: After making the last photo, I realized the pipe was a bit unsatisfactory. The open end has been hollowed out a bit more, which looks much better (Outer diameter is 1,0mm; inner diameter is now 0,8mm).
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 05, 2014, 12:03:25 AM
The oil spattering on the windscreen is a nice touch. Well executed too.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: jknaus on August 05, 2014, 07:26:27 AM
Very cool.
James
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: RAGIII on August 05, 2014, 08:05:59 AM
The oil spattering on the windscreen is a nice touch. Well executed too.

Cheers,

Chris

That little detail caught my eye also and I agree with Chris totally!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: stefanbuss on August 09, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
The last detail shots:
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/85/927585/3562626364653631.jpg)

The last shots and the story behind will be posted in the "completed models" section soon.

Stefan
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: Des on August 09, 2014, 09:20:11 PM
Your attention to detail is exceptional Stefan, well done.

Des.
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: Alexis on August 09, 2014, 10:37:55 PM
Like Des said , very nice attention to the details ! Love the prop covers , very nice touch  8)





Terri
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: Ernie on August 10, 2014, 03:49:48 AM
Great job, Stefan.  Beautiful attention to detail!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: coyotemagic on August 10, 2014, 06:37:52 AM
Beautiful work, Stefan!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: uncletony on August 10, 2014, 06:51:40 AM
Truly well done Stefan, congrats!
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: BLOWHARD on August 10, 2014, 06:54:16 AM
I agree!  Nice model, great subject!  :D
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: mgunns on August 10, 2014, 08:08:42 AM
Hello Stefan:

Outstanding workmanship and attention to detail.  I too like  your work on the prop covers.  This will certainly make an interesting diorama.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: RAGIII on August 10, 2014, 09:33:09 AM
Stefan, very well done all around! One question. In your explanation on the completed models thread you mention that he took this aircraft with him from Jasta 11. So is it thought that this was the Jasta 11 paint scheme that he used? Would make an interesting addition to my collection.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Schnucki - WNW Albatros DV
Post by: stefanbuss on August 10, 2014, 08:47:34 PM
RAGIII,

this is a quote from Pheon's text (decal set 32037 Albatros DV/Va Vol4):
Quote
Oblt Scheffer served as the Adjutant for JaSta 11 from 12 July to 18 December 1917, after which he was posted to take command of FEA6 [...]. The scheme depicted here is largely a result of examining three photographs of Scheffer's unarmed Albatros at FEA6.
The choice for red for the main colour of what was obviously Scheffer's personal aeroplane would seem appropriate, given his time with von Richthofen's JaSta 11; as Adjutant he would have been closely involved with his CO's day to day command activities [...] so [...] red paint would seem natural!
The colours of the tail are more difficult to guess at; yellow would at first seem a good candidate, except that it would be against the unpainted plywood fin (the original Albatros serial is undisturbed) which would have a distinctly yellow tone. White is out, as a direct comparison with the adjacent cross surround shows. Blue shows as a light grey tone in period photographs, and so that was our choice. [...]

I would have preffered red and green as Schnucki's colours, but my wife decided that red and light blue were correct. And who am I to dare contradicting my wife's decisions....

Stefan