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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Brad Cancian on July 09, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
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Hi folks - started the 1/48 Eduard Fokker EV "Weekend Edition" kit. This promises to be a quick and simple build which will allow me to try my hand at some new lozenge decals as well as try to replicate the "Fokker Streaking" on the wing. Plus it should be a relatively quick and relaxing build before I launch into my next serious project.
I have deviated from normal practice and started with the wing. The Eduard instructions show a solid dark green wing on both upper and lower surfaces, with an "alternate" colouring of 'streaked' green. The current favoured 'theory' of the painting of these wings is that they were painted using Fokker's 'streaking' technique in two colours (brown and green) on the upper sides and two colours (light blue and a light violet) on the undersides. Some of the colour theories indicate some very bright colours, but I wanted to keep mine relatively subdued and the streaking fairly subtle. Here is my attempt at the upper surface of the wing.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV01_zpse66b87e0.jpg)
The under-surface will be similarly done with a light blue and a purple-pink colour. I welcome any comments or thoughts on the colour choices (noting that I am probably not going to change them now :P ;D)
Cheers,
BC
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New Lozenge? Tell us more, Brad ;)
Looking forward to seeing more from this quickie :)
VB
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Hi Bob - nothing too earth-shattering - just the Aviattic decals that I have not yet tried :)
BC
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Nice streaking on the wing Brad, colours look good to my eyes, this will be another "must watch" build.
Des.
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Brad,
Looks really good to my eyes! The streaking is there but subdued as you said. The colors also look to be as close as anyone can come!
RAGIII
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Excellent work on the streaking, Brad. I like the colors.
Cheers,
Bud
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Really like the streaking. Looking forward to more.
James
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BC great painting.
Martin
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You started an interesting, I will follow on this topic.
Good luck in your further work !
Jacek
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Hello Brad:
I have this in 1/32nd and am hesitant to start it due to the coloring issues that you mentioned. Watching your build will help in the decision making process. I like your upper wing, the colors and the streaking have "the look". Looking forward to seeing you progress and getting some inspiration to start mine.
Best
Mark
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Brad, I really support and like the "subdued" effect you've achieved. I'm still a little on the fence reference this colour theory, however if subtle such as this it looks pretty good. I'll be watching with interest to see how you "subdue" violet........ :-\
Looking good thus far,
Cheers,
Lance
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It looks very subtle but convincing at the same time.
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The paint and streaking is really well done, Brad. Your choice of colours looks
to me very fitting, and the low key appearance just right. I look forward to seeing
more of your build. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thanks folks! I have had a crack at the underside colours as well. Trickier than I thought, but this will have to do...
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV02_zpsdc69e134.jpg)
I have also completed the cockpit. Seat belts were added from Tamiya tape. The lozenge is from Aviattic, which is translucent. It dries with a degree of 'flex' left in it, and when dry it feels a little rubbery. I found it hard to trim as a result. I also mustn't have surface prep'd properly as I found that I had some troubles with it staying stuck once dry. Some Future under the decal sorted out this problem.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV03_zps391107bc.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV04_zpsb8abb4ae.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV05_zps7d374632.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV06_zps4bce07eb.jpg)
I have also painted up the engine using Alclads (which I am now in love with):
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV07_zpsb64f523d.jpg)
The fuselage is together and currently drying. Given the translucent nature of the Aviattic lozenge I think I will play with some pre-shading effects when it comes to applying the decals to the fuselage.
Cheers,
BC
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It's looking really good, Brad. I did some preparatory work on an EV a while back and it's very helpful to see your approach. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Coming along very nicely Brad, the engine and cockpit look great and the underwing painting is extremely well done.
Des.
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Your build coming along very good Brad.
Martin
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Excellent job on the cockpit and engine, Brad. The wing underside colors and streaking look fantastic, as well.
Cheers,
Bud
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Looking good so far Brad :)
Terri
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Beautiful work as always! I really like the color choice you have made. Going only from memory I think it is fairly close to the colors I ended up with. Yours of course looks better ;D The interior is neat and the engine looks great!
RAGIII
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Thanks as always folks!
The build is progressing speedily. Today I finished the fuselage clean up and had a play with the lozenge. Given that the Aviattic lozenge is transluscent, I had a bit of a play with some pre-shading. Some experiments on scraps showed that a black pre-shade under the decal was way too stark, so the trick was going to be to keep the pre-shading subtle. Also, undercoat colour with these decals plays a big part. As I wanted more of a 'brown' lozenge to go with my 'brown' wing, I went with a 'brown" based undercoat of Gunze "sail colour" and pre-shaded with this colour plus a little bit of black mixed in, thus:
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV08_zps927e7ebb.jpg)
I then applied the decals straight over the top. These are the "faded" versions, so they essentially come pre-faded and textured. Here's the result - instant weathering without the fear of tearing or wrecking decals! ;D
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV09_zps51b61960.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV10_zps27f4d0a2.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV11_zps5eea3ec2.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV12_zps305f2a7a.jpg)
I think that if I had another go I would lighten the base coat further as the overall effect is quite dark, but that said I was quite happy with the way the pre-shading showed through. I am getting used to the way that these decals react under decal softener, but they are quite forgiving decals due to their "stretch". They don't stay colourfast under harsh thinners though, so a word of warning to clear coat them before doing any further weathering (don't ask me how I found this out.... ). I did also think about rib tapes, but layering these decals doesn't really work too well as you get large variances in colour density (as noted in the instructions). I think the pre-shading gives the right effect anyways.
Now to let them dry while I work on some other components.
Cheers,
BC
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Exellent Brad. ;D
Martin
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Your lozenge looks superb. I'm approaching the time where I'll be appyling Aviattic decals to a fuselage for the first time so I'm interested to know how you did it. Did you cut the pieces to fit exactly or did you cut them oversize and trim to fit after they were dry? If the latter, my concern is just how well I'll be able to trim them. :-[
Cheers,
Chris
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I'm very impressed with the effect produced by pre-shading these decals Brad. My one experience with them to date I elected post shading with dry pastels which produced a good effect but not as subtle as on yours. Very nice work so far and Thanks for the Pre-Shading trick; it's now in my bag of tricks for next time around.
Cheers,
Lance
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I never could quite picture the transparency that Richard described. This illustrates it perfectly. What an incredible effect you can achieve! Great work Brad, and great product, Richard!
Lindsay
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Beautiful lozenge work, Brad! The preshading is perfect.
Cheers,
Bud
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Beautiful lozenge work, Brad! The preshading is perfect.
Cheers,
Bud
I agree with my Amigo! Terrific pre shading!
RAGIII
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Thanks guys!
Chris - as the dried lozenge has some 'stretch' to it, trimming with a blade is tricky. Also, any layering of the decal over itself doubles the intensity of the colour and will be obvious. As such with this lozenge the best thing to do is to try and cut the pieces to fit as closely as possible without trimming. I made some paper templates initially and trimmed the templates to fit before I laid them over the lozenge decals and cut them out. There was still some overlaps and some slight gaps but these were reasonably minimal and were able to be dealt with.
Cheers,
BC
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Thanks guys!
Chris - as the dried lozenge has some 'stretch' to it, trimming with a blade is tricky. Also, any layering of the decal over itself doubles the intensity of the colour and will be obvious. As such with this lozenge the best thing to do is to try and cut the pieces to fit as closely as possible without trimming. I made some paper templates initially and trimmed the templates to fit before I laid them over the lozenge decals and cut them out. There was still some overlaps and some slight gaps but these were reasonably minimal and were able to be dealt with.
Cheers,
BC
Brad,
Glad to hear that a modeler of your caliber has come to the same conclusion as I did. Careful Prep work in trimming and preparing is the best route to a great application! Having learned this lesson my next effort will be much better.
RAGIII
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She now has some legs (dry fitted only at this stage...):
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/FEV13_zps869c1ede.jpg)
As you can see I went with Fokker E.V 149/18 of Jasta 1, based on the profile of the late great Dan San Abbott (I was already halfway there having based the wing camo off his pattern). Serial number was printed on my home printer. I like this simple scheme with the splash of colour from the cowling.
BC
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Looks great, the shading on the cowling is really pretty. Wheel covers look the part too.
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I love this build.
Martin
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Sweet job with the per-shading ! And like Bo , the cowl is super :)
Terri
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Looks great, the shading on the cowling is really pretty. Wheel covers look the part too.
I agree 100%, Brad. Brilliant work.
Cheers,
Bud
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....and she be done...
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/1-48%20Fokker%20EV/P21400202_zpsfe066e09.jpg)
See here:
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=3762.0
Cheers,
BC
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Beautiful Brad! You seem to have almost built this in a weekend 8)
RAGIII
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Wow, Brad! That was FAST! And she turned out so beautifully (no surprise, there)!
Cheers,
Bud
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You always ask for criticisms, and I can never ever think of one. Exquisite as always Brad.
Cheers,
Tony.
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Wonderful job, Brad. The shading is beautifully done and looks just
right under the lozenge. You make everything look so easy, but I guess
talent does that. Amazing work, my friend. I will hurry over to see the
finished model. Thanks alot for sharing all your work! :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Very nice. Ilike the looks of this. What font did you use for your serial number? Is there one for WWI German aircraft available somewhere?
James
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Great work. How did you paint the wheel covers?
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Thanks guys!
nmroberto - All except for one of the wheel covers were decalled in lozenge. The port outer wheel cover on this aircraft came from an older Fokker-streaked finished wheel, which I did with oil paint and the wheel mounted on a small electric drill, spinning at low speed. It took a few goes to get the effect I wanted :)
Cheers,
BC
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Thanks guys!
nmroberto - All except for one of the wheel covers were decalled in lozenge. The port outer wheel cover on this aircraft came from an older Fokker-streaked finished wheel, which I did with oil paint and the wheel mounted on a small electric drill, spinning at low speed. It took a few goes to get the effect I wanted :)
Cheers,
BC
I would guess you'd have to spin it at a low speed or end up with speckles of paint everywhere. I've discovered that most paint doesn't taste too great.
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Wow ! great build . I love the way you've done the decals process. The result is fantastic.
I am a poor decal player and your skill is very inspiring. I need to try !
I have a question about the softener used : is a microset / sol and have you make a varnish before application ?
thanks for your comments
olivier