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Title: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on July 06, 2014, 09:12:04 PM
Hello dear colleagues,

After several years of non or semi modeling activity, I finally decided to spend once again more time on plastic cutting, carving, sanding and gluing. The pace will remain low though...  Subject of the restart will be a conversion from the Roden 1/32 Albatros D.I to the W.4 version. The target will be a hopefully very good lookalike, not a to the mm in scale correct replica.

 So, here we go kicking off with the fuselage interior: cleaning up and adding some locating strips.
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/XXp8I6dkEcdqo51vLWCSQZSZHextIRml_fQ1eyLhazM?feat=directlink

Tailskid D.I removed.
 Filling the D.I panel lines with a super glue/talcum mixture and rescribing the W.4 panels...
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/fNd_HE26KbH-A5IQHtnw8ZSZHextIRml_fQ1eyLhazM?feat=directlink

The frame cut in two to ease painting and weathering later on....
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hE0ePpuSzobxLYVmsO8j-5SZHextIRml_fQ1eyLhazM?feat=directlink

Rebuilding the pilot seat frame, making it snugly fit inside the fuselage...
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/iPX1_m0RolU9TQC5q9MskZSZHextIRml_fQ1eyLhazM?feat=directlink

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: lcarroll on July 06, 2014, 09:19:35 PM
Dagmar, 
This should prove to be an interesting and definitely challenging subject. Keep the reports and updates flowing, and welcome back to plastic bashing!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Des on July 06, 2014, 09:37:35 PM
Very impressive start on your W.4 project Dagmar, what you have achieved so far is excellent, looking forward to following this build.

Des.
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Alexis on July 06, 2014, 09:50:30 PM
Off to an excellent start so far  :)




Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on July 06, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Sounds like an exciting build. I am getting a Google "500" Internal Server error when I try the links so am unable to see the photos  :(
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: coyotemagic on July 06, 2014, 11:53:55 PM
Welcome to the forum, Dagmar!  You're off to an amazing start on what promises to be an exciting conversion.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Nigel Jackson on July 07, 2014, 02:49:29 AM
Hello Dagmar and welcome to the forum.

That is some challenge you have set yourself and the photos show a fine start. I can't wait to see how this one progresses.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: lone modeller on July 07, 2014, 02:54:23 AM
For someone who has only been a part time modeller until recently, you have done some really impressive work. I am really looking forward to reading more of your posts and looking at more of your excellent work.
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: kornbeef on July 07, 2014, 09:51:43 AM
Nice looking work so far.... you know once you get 90% done WNW will announce the W4 as a surprise release don't you? (okay it's more a wish and hint. )

I'll watch this progress with interest. The Roden Albies are still IMHO their best kits. I've just slipped a DIII onto the tail of an order from Nordlands (saving a chunk on UK prices... seemed a fair excuse even to SWMBO)


Keith
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: jknaus on July 08, 2014, 02:24:38 AM
Watching with interest.
James
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on July 08, 2014, 02:43:49 AM
Dear colleagues,

Thank you all for your feedback. Highly appreciated and most motivating! However, I hope WNW did not read your post kornbeef...
Next time I'll try to upload pictures in an 'enjoyable' size directly in my post.

Bye for now,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: mgunns on July 11, 2014, 12:23:24 AM
Hello Dagmar:

Welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing your project.  This is going to be interesting and I like your approach to the project:  A 'looks like'.  The Roden Albatroses, although lacking in some detail, build into some nice models.  Looking forward to seeing you progress through the build.

Best


Mark
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: xmald on July 11, 2014, 05:50:39 AM
It looks jolly good, keep the updates coming!
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on July 11, 2014, 09:25:55 AM
Well, I can finally see the photos and yes, terrific start and work so far!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on July 12, 2014, 09:34:53 PM
Hello dear colleagues,

Fiddled along a bit this week and continued with the interior.
Trying to upgrade the control column with Evergreen rod and little bits from the PART Albatros D.I photo etch set...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K1NeSJCKbQ8/U8D-vy_ftlI/AAAAAAAAABY/CwY-vGB7Rj0/s800/Control%2520stick.jpg)

Accentuating the borders of the ammunition boxes with stretched sprue and adding a bit more detail with Evergreen and copper wire...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IKgpkvtBw88/U8D-kxr2_JI/AAAAAAAAABI/nL62omqF84Y/s800/Ammunition%2520box.jpg)

Same thing with the fuel and oil tank...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YVvjhIyP5cc/U8D-vYLLMSI/AAAAAAAAABU/EaTAhmWxpcI/s800/Fueltank.jpg)

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: radio on July 12, 2014, 09:52:17 PM
You build coming up very nicely.
Martin
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Chris Johnson on July 12, 2014, 10:26:47 PM
I tip my hat to anyone who masters the use of PE in such a clean manner such as you have. It's always been black magic to me.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: lcarroll on July 12, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
I tip my hat to anyone who masters the use of PE in such a clean manner such as you have. It's always been black magic to me.

Cheers,

Chris

     What Chris said, that is really clean work on some very tiny parts. Nicely done!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: uncletony on July 13, 2014, 12:02:13 AM
Great stuff!
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: LindsayT on July 13, 2014, 04:57:08 AM
I love the photo-diary builds that demonstrate with pictures. Please keep it up!

Oh, and welcome to the forum!

Lindsay
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on July 13, 2014, 12:00:01 PM
Lovely work on the stick, ammo boxes, and Fuel tank! Really great details!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: kornbeef on July 13, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
She's coming along nicely.

Nice attention to detail Dagmar. I'm really looking forwards to seeing the rest come together.

Keith
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on July 20, 2014, 05:22:09 PM
Hello dear colleagues,

Thank you for the kind words!

Still working on the cockpit by putting some time in the rudder pedal using thin plastic sheet and copper wire...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZlUU8cjDniw/U8tkmDfbWPI/AAAAAAAAABs/KUWwRLhNSAw/s800/Rudder%2520pedal.jpg)

Tackled the safety belts next. Cut the belts from the lid of a yogurt cup, made buckles from stretched sprue and fixation hooks from copper wire. Finally added once again some bits from the PART Albatros D.I photo etch set...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3O1F_CbUfEk/U8tl-Hd4FkI/AAAAAAAAACM/TH_wAO2TVsI/s800/Safety%2520belts.jpg)

Pilot's seat is next. Tried to accomplish the layered look of the leather on the seat and cushion by first gluing stretched sprue to limit the layers of leather and secondly building up the edges with the talcum/super glue mixture and having some sanding sessions...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7Vxds_oO0As/U8tl-A9nOHI/AAAAAAAAACI/wVBygbxcExw/s800/Pilot%2527s%2520seat.jpg)

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 20, 2014, 05:44:54 PM
nice work.
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on July 29, 2014, 01:46:47 AM
Hello dear colleagues,

Slowly but surely seeing the end of the 'cockpit'-activities.
Upgrading dashboard, pumps, gun support,... with once again copper wire, stretched sprue, self adhesive alu tape. Not really high tech but conclusive I think.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UKR8oB1ovxo/U9ZpYHfj0oI/AAAAAAAAAC0/bqCsrWbVY24/s800/Cockpit%2520parts_part%25203.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZcHx1rRnu9g/U9ZpX9GdOdI/AAAAAAAAACw/rhxqM6YtXYk/s800/Cockpit%2520parts_part%25201.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZMReSDdw1BM/U9ZpXksZ61I/AAAAAAAAACs/6Myw9faNYOI/s800/Cockpit%2520parts_part%25202.jpg)

Until now no 'real W.4'-building was on the menu and therefore I think it's time to leave behind the more Albatros D and W generic part and start focusing on the W-specifics. Some wing carving and float building coming up!

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: lone modeller on July 29, 2014, 02:08:26 AM
Some very impressive super-detailing here. Wonderful work - please keep us posted on progress - this is fascinating.
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: jknaus on July 29, 2014, 03:40:59 AM
Very nice detailing. So crisp and clean.
James
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: radio on July 29, 2014, 04:10:12 AM
A very great work for the Cockpit. :)
Martin
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on July 29, 2014, 05:04:45 AM
Your cockpit bits are excellent! I am looking forward to the Floats and other necessary updates.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Umlaufmotor on July 29, 2014, 05:49:14 AM
YES, I like this very nice small superdetailing things. Very well done, Dagmar Henderickx

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: xmald on July 29, 2014, 07:50:25 AM
It all looks great. Good job - a very inspiring build!
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Des on July 29, 2014, 07:57:47 AM
Your attention to detail is exceptional, what you have done so far is superb and displays a very high level of modeling skill, looking forward to seeing more updates.

Des.
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Alexis on July 29, 2014, 08:53:51 AM
Effective , yet very simple ! Most excellent job on the details , looking forward on the next up date  :)




Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Ernie on July 29, 2014, 09:45:26 AM
I have missed your build log until now, Dagmar.  I am fascinated by your
brilliant detailing to make a good model a great one.  I also think your
pictorial is first-rate, and look forward to more updates.  Thanks for
sharing your talents.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Vickers on July 29, 2014, 03:16:02 PM
Excellent work, Dagmar. Thank you for the very nice photos of your detailing work, it seems you're just getting started and your W.4 is already instructive and inspirational!
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: mgunns on July 29, 2014, 11:34:56 PM
Hello Dagmar:

Outstanding work on the bits and pieces.  Very clean and tidy.  Looking forward to the "W" details.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: lcarroll on July 30, 2014, 05:51:50 AM
   I've toyed with the idea of doing this for years; never quite got serious enough to try but this may nudge me over the edge! Really looking forward to the wing and float work upcoming, and your bits and pieces are beautifully done.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on August 03, 2014, 07:35:42 PM
Dear colleagues,

Too much honour! Just a matter of being patient I think...

Now, a first step towards the W.4. To start getting the feeling of it, I choose to begin with the more easy part: cutting up the tailplane, elevator and ailerons of the D.I and enlarging it with plastic bits and pieces. I used the plans of the Windsock Mini Datafile 1, enlarged to 1/32 scale. Thank you Ray Rimell!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_9xDoIQP2n4/U938pEYSNPI/AAAAAAAAADY/fOwKzM0F0KM/s800/Tailplane%2520and%2520ailerons.jpg)

After many sanding, filling, sanding and once again filling hours, I came up with something resembling to this. Not really there yet as the surface is still to rough but heading into the right direction I think.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-52jnp9NykXk/U938pPvllSI/AAAAAAAAADU/mmi0EAbR1IM/s800/Tail.jpg)

Now the wings. I was first tempted to build the wings from scratch but finally choose for the same approach as for the tailplane. Seemed to be easier. The end result will prove if it was the right decision. Still a lot of filling, sanding and detailing ahead...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LbBrY8xG9pA/U938ph3SquI/AAAAAAAAADc/_Y2OuY_bI4k/s800/Wings.jpg)

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: rhallinger on August 03, 2014, 09:09:24 PM
Nice work Dagmar!  You've also taught me something.  I knew the span of the W.4 was greater than the D, but I didn't realize that the chord was greater also, or at least that's what I see in your work.  I'll have to check the mini datafile when I get home.  I am planning to do this coversion myself within the next two years ( if I ever get the Tabloid finished!), so I am learning from your build.

I will be interested in seeing what you do with the floats.  Member Chuckt5 began this project about 18 months ago, and built a beautiful and detailed master of the W.4 floats to do resin castings, but he got busy with life and has not moved forward with it.  I have kept in occasional contact with him, as I would like to purchase from him a set of float castings if he ever makes them.  I suspect your floats will be first rate, however you decide to render them, and I will be watching with great interest.  You may want to review Chuckt5's thread for informational purposes, if nothing else.  I cannot figure out how to paste the link here on my PED, but you can easily find it by going clicking on the Members button, finding Chuckt5 on the alphabetical list, clicking on "show posts" and scrolling down until you find the W.4 float topic.

Again, wonderful work here.  Thanks for sharing!  Great photos, too. :D

Cheers,

Bob


Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on August 04, 2014, 08:55:37 AM
Excellent problem solving on the Tail Feathers and wing! I actually went as far as enlarging the drawings but chickened out  ::) Your build could pave the way for a future try on my DII kit from Encore.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Alexis on August 04, 2014, 10:36:24 AM
Simple but yet so effective !  :)




Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 05, 2014, 05:41:16 AM
looking great, yes both methods of obtaining a wing and tail are alot of work. i have done both. in the end i truly think scratch is less work. cut out the blank. use boiling water to form the camber shape the profile, then glue strip stock to form ribs. after this stage i used auto filler primer and tilted the wing to one side and spray allowing the primer to puddle againt the ribs. tilt the other way and do the same then its just a little light sanding to shape the slight belly between the ribs. i get frustrated trying to make the filled in area match the rest of the wing, and the filling sanding,filling sanding seemed endless. but in the end your build is comming along beautiful.
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: jknaus on August 05, 2014, 07:23:53 AM
Very cool. Always enjoy watching how people solve problems. Very enlightening.
James
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on August 10, 2014, 06:17:21 PM
Dear colleagues,

Thanks for the feedback and the advice!
ALBATROS 1234, I'm starting to think you are wright. It is indeed becoming and endless game of filling, sanding, filling, sanding,... Have to continue though as too much time already went in it. But if I should need to scratch new wings once again, Im sure I'll try 'the boiling water' method!

And now for something completely different: naval lozenge. I read in the Mini Datafile that in an early stage the naval lozenge was painted on instead of using printed fabric. As I'm building an early batch version, painted lozenge it will be. I suppose the paints will have suffered a lot from the salt water resulting in an uneven coverage of the paints after a while. Trying to achieve that effect, I did a little experiment on the canvas (I assume) installed behind the pilot seat.

Building the canvas with the tin foil...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3Kiabw08hd4/U-counJzb3I/AAAAAAAAAD0/3obIsd7TyhA/s800/Canvas%2520tin%2520foil.jpg)

Airbrushing with Tamiy Acrylic browns...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Ek52OtARsVY/U-cowWaQbOI/AAAAAAAAAEE/zvg-noz3tns/s800/Canvas%2520browns.jpg)

Adding the naval lozenge colors, with the aid of masks cut from Tamiya tape, using pastels. The Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.29 decals served as a template...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dENqUMLbW0E/U-covjjxrMI/AAAAAAAAAEA/pw_gm8LygqA/s800/Canvas%2520pastel.jpg)

Conclusion:
1. Brown is not the good primer color as it changes the color of the pastel used. I'll try white primer the next time.
2. Definitely need to find the correct pastel colors overall...

However, going into the right direction and having some potential I think.

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: uncletony on August 10, 2014, 10:03:30 PM
Lovely work Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Alexis on August 10, 2014, 11:21:02 PM
Nice !  :)


I do like the effect you got for salt sea air wear , but I do agree with you that it is to brown .




Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: mgunns on August 11, 2014, 05:41:20 AM
Hello Dagmar:

I agree with Terri and your assessment the brown not being the right color, that being written, you are on the right track with the pattern and a little experiment with colors and ou will have it.  It does look like canvas though, your weathering and shading with oils is a nice touch.  The work on the wings and tail is coming along nicely.
I will be looking forward to your next update.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on August 11, 2014, 08:27:08 AM
Looking really great and I like the effect the foil gave as a base! I have a couple of questions. As you stated the Early W4s were painted on Hex. So would the Bulkhead be painted in the same manner being an internal structure? Don't take me wrong as I think it will certainly add a lot of color to a rather monotone wood interior so from an artistic standpoint I like your choice.
I will have to search but there were some good threads about the painted Lozenge on the Aerodrome forum. It seems to me that 3 colors were involved and were actually not the same as the later blue and blue grey base as the printed fabric. Brown was mentioned IIRC. I only remember because I was building a 1/48th Eduard kit in an early scheme. At any rate your pattern looks excellent and I admire your abilities!!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on August 18, 2014, 03:33:58 AM
Dear colleagues,

Once again a big thank you for the nice comments!

Bob (apparently I missed your post), indeed, the span and the chord of the W.4 are greater than the D.I. It couldn't be that simple unfortunately...  I found Chuckt5's thread on the floats and will keep it close at hand when tackling the floats myself. Thanks!

RAGIII, no problem for pointing out! I'm far from sure if the bulkhead would have been painted in naval lozenge. It even seems logic that it would not have been. I just took the occasion to try the pastel approach.
Conserning the colors, I've checked the info I could lay my hands on, including the threads on the Aerodrome forum. Indeed, it seems that at least two different sets of three colors were involved: a blue/grey set an a brown set. Going through the mini datafile even revealed that a W.4 had both sets on its wings. This opens very interesting opportunities I think...

And now where we are in the build. Still struggling with the wings. However, I arrived at the point the wings looked good enough to add the ribs. First engraving each rib location, than glueing the stretched sprue ribs... Once again a lot of filling and sanding on the planning...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G68xNYweAGY/U_DeeXfcEtI/AAAAAAAAAEo/arsKwIQ-bCA/s800/Wings%2520and%2520ribs%25201.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rEZsKvSTxgQ/U_DeeR468OI/AAAAAAAAAEs/pVx_8drpRxw/s800/Wings%2520and%2520ribs%25202.jpg)

To break the monotony of building the wings, the engine support was on the menu...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ziF3q_eUOww/U_DedX6MqnI/AAAAAAAAAEc/ifdPZSh5_bQ/s800/Engine%2520bay.jpg)

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Alexis on August 18, 2014, 05:09:48 AM
Nice job on the wings !




Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on August 18, 2014, 07:48:13 AM
Awesome work on the wings! I am looking forward to seeing your talent show through on the Naval Hex! Thanks for this excellent build log!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: jknaus on August 19, 2014, 08:33:48 AM
Very very cool.
James
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on August 28, 2014, 01:29:10 AM
Dear colleagues,

Thanks for the support during the boring wing filling, sanding and priming. Finally I've reached the point to call it even so details can be added: strut support, hinges, rib tapes,.... But that's for a next time.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Rr8Upr0eWQE/U_31Cr_8YQI/AAAAAAAAAFU/nK_x3n3WGfA/s800/wings%2520primed.jpg)

To make sure reading about the build doesn't become as boring as the actual build of the wings itself (and also to keep myself motivated), I put the guns on the menu. Once again the PART photo etch set came to the rescue...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jSs-sOUQMts/U_31DSAdk4I/AAAAAAAAAFQ/xbfbOQ-40T0/s800/Gun%2520parts.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F72j2BWE9uA/U_31DHEeD2I/AAAAAAAAAFM/IZCWIa5jA58/s800/Gun%2520completed.jpg)

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Umlaufmotor on August 28, 2014, 02:17:10 AM
Very nice work on the LMG, Dagmar.

But be careful, I'm fairly sure that you need this mechanism on the LMG on the Albatros W.4.
The cocking lever was later in use.

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h342/ASKundASK/MG/3239838027_c5176189a3_b_zps6b8d2ee3.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/ASKundASK/media/MG/3239838027_c5176189a3_b_zps6b8d2ee3.jpg.html)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h342/ASKundASK/MG/3_zps8c122803.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/ASKundASK/media/MG/3_zps8c122803.jpg.html)
(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h342/ASKundASK/MG/08-15_Rear_zps45a1059b.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/ASKundASK/media/MG/08-15_Rear_zps45a1059b.jpg.html)

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: radio on August 28, 2014, 02:51:03 AM
great work.
Martin
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on August 28, 2014, 08:20:35 AM
Excellent MGs! Keep your updates coming please! I have found nothing boring on your build!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Des on August 28, 2014, 08:54:46 AM
No posts on this forum are boring, all good exciting stuff.

Your MG's are excellent and I look forward to seeing more work on the wings, this is an excellent build.

Des.
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Alexis on August 28, 2014, 09:17:26 AM
Looking excellent , and far from boring !




Terri
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on August 31, 2014, 08:08:58 PM
Dear colleagues,

Thanks for the kind words. They are most encouraging and slightly becoming addictive...

Bertl,
Well, there you have me. Wanting to speed up, I missed on this one. The cocking levers just give that extra though. (Lightweight excuse for being too lazy to redo the LMG's; laziness now being encouraged by a picture of a D.II with LMG's exceptionally being equiped with two handles appearing to be extended cocking levers; artistic liberty?).

New phase in the build: interior fuselage painting. I started with marking the location of the bulkheads with Tamiya XF-59 Desert Yellow, as the objective is to preshade each part of the fuselage defined in this way, individually.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ir4y0MehUX4/VALx4goyDwI/AAAAAAAAAGI/OHUBtfPjt8I/s800/Motor%2520compartment_ligning_jig.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F7NImEU3nFA/VALx28AXW8I/AAAAAAAAAF4/NM4vtP7uVS0/s800/Motor%2520compartment_ligning.jpg)

Colors used for preshading/modulating the engine compartment are Mr Hobby Aqueous Hobby Color Chocolate Brown H406 and Tamiya XF-57 Buff.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5T_u9WrA02w/VALx5AeHlNI/AAAAAAAAAGM/lKF8jEJnNbo/s800/Motor%2520compartment_modulated.jpg)

The upper part cockpit compartment is sprayed with XF-52 Flath Earth and Mr Hobby Aqueous Hobby Color Radome H318; the lower part with Tamiya XF-64 Red Brown and Tamiya XF-59 Desert Yellow. I always applied first the dark colour and secondly sprayed the lighter one.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TQdWi0i9ByI/VALx2qM_tjI/AAAAAAAAAF0/B8PLCSLPhGo/s800/Inner%2520Fuselage%2520left_modulated.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VZwFQIxaoXc/VALx2qxNPtI/AAAAAAAAAF8/rU11VuIGyE4/s800/Inner%2520Fuselage%2520right_modulated.jpg)

This will be the basis for creating the wood effect with oil paint but that's for within a few weeks after a short break as I have other 'to do's' on my list now...

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on September 01, 2014, 05:13:49 AM
Your prep for the wood grain looks great! I am looking forward to your next update!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: radio on September 01, 2014, 06:46:42 AM
A very good wood grain and build until now.
Martin
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on October 05, 2014, 08:37:27 PM
Dear colleagues,

Alright, finally back to the modeling table again!
As warming up, continuation of preparing the basis for creating the wood effect of the other internal 'wooden' parts. I used the same color combination as for the upper part of the cockpit compartment.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0EYRUkq1o24/VDEbAWY2KII/AAAAAAAAAHA/15L-J0GurYY/s800/cockpit%2520parts.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cOMyM9xGLz8/VDEbAfeyJ1I/AAAAAAAAAG4/iiP2nQKricw/s800/cockpit%2520parts2.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uB5966YNG2A/VDEbCf5dBBI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/0Dl6DlY157g/s800/cockpit%2520parts3.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Hyed7YgaNTc/VDEbCvJuwDI/AAAAAAAAAHU/qsIE_J05-Ps/s800/motor%2520compartment.jpg)

Next, start of building the floats. Using plastic card of different thickness, the first steps of the build look promising I think.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jCd5JOftVBo/VDEbAt0Ev7I/AAAAAAAAAHE/XNcqQg_0vXA/s800/Floats.jpg)

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: lcarroll on October 05, 2014, 10:08:56 PM
Nice to see this back on the board; the floats look great. Good work takes time, this should be a real winner!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on October 05, 2014, 10:34:52 PM
The floats look awesome! Did you cut the shapes and then just bend them together and reinforce with the formers visible?
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: jknaus on October 06, 2014, 01:16:16 AM
Very very cool stuff.
James
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Michael Scarborough on October 06, 2014, 11:11:36 AM
Really wonderful stuff.....excellent work, Dagmar!

Of course, you going to all the trouble of this conversion is one way to be sure that WnW will announce a W.4 for C'mas!

I look forward to your posts and hope you will keep them coming.

Cheers from NYC,
Michael
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on October 07, 2014, 04:21:43 AM
Dear colleagues,
Thanks for the kind words!

Hi Rick, indeed, I took the top of the floats as basis for the build and glued both sides, cut into shape to it. The formers should strengthen the whole thing and also make sure that both sides are perpendicular to the top of the float.

Hi Michael, you are just describing the worst nightmare when you're building a conversion...

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Michael Scarborough on October 07, 2014, 11:35:36 AM
Have you seen the really wonderful 1/32 Beached Walfisch diorama by Per Olav Lund? He scratch built and vac-formed a gorgeous Roland Walfisch and I think he did so less than a year before, Voila, WnW released not one, but TWO, gorgeous kits of the same plane.
Yes, that is the nightmare! So, I guess this means you are the sacrificial lamb, Dagmar! Just when you finish this gorgeous conversion, WnW will announce their brand new ALBARTOS W.4! We all thank you in advance!

In the meantime, keep up the good work!

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

PS Truthfully......as much as I wish they would do a W.4, I hope this doesn't happen to you!!
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: jknaus on October 08, 2014, 04:05:08 AM
Fantastic.
James
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 10, 2014, 09:20:07 AM
Anxiously await next update, great work so far.

Ed
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: jknaus on October 10, 2014, 09:59:28 AM
You have got me so keen on this build that I just got a card stock model and will attempt to use it to make this conversion. Eagerly looking forward to more.
James
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on October 14, 2014, 03:42:02 AM
Dear colleagues,

The pressure, the pressure... Hope to live up to your expectations  :)

Well, I was able to finalize the floats. After the general shape of the floats was to my liking, the upper part of the floats was detailed with plastic card and Evergreen strips cut in the desired shape and guided by Tamiya tape cut templates.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qkCqBbqE-A4/VDwKbmHnp6I/AAAAAAAAAIA/Xe4kZOwGnGI/s800/Floats%2520in%2520prep.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YSKHqq85tAs/VDwKb2AVDuI/AAAAAAAAAIE/i6C8RB5kPWo/s800/Floats%2520in%2520prep2.jpg)

Finally, tape of different thickness is used to simulate the reinforcements on the edges of the floats.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6N8bvycf2p4/VDwKdMi3I4I/AAAAAAAAAIQ/22W2_ncV5vg/s800/floats%2520final.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qUQaiP8xj4w/VDwKblNtLNI/AAAAAAAAAII/2mzIqPpbOBE/s800/Floats%2520detail.jpg)

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Michael Scarborough on October 14, 2014, 03:55:32 AM
Bravo! This is looking great Dagmar! I would say the pressure is not affecting you in the slightest......

Using different widths of tape as a means of a repeated measurement is such an obvious choice.....once one thinks of it! LOL!

May I ask how you are adhering the tape for permanence? I would think that the adhesive that comes on it would not be sufficient for long term sticking.

Cheers from NYC,
Michael
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on October 14, 2014, 05:49:06 AM
Awesome work! You are getting close to the point this one will begin to take shape as a Float Plane!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: radio on October 14, 2014, 06:02:39 AM
Very great work.
Martin
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on October 15, 2014, 02:33:50 AM
Thanks Martin and Rick; most appreciated!

Michael, answering to your question: the yellow tape is cut to size Tamiya masking tape adhered with liquid cement; the black tape is graphic art tape for which I used cyano to keep it in place. Future will tell if I made the right decision...

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Des on October 15, 2014, 06:52:06 AM
Great work on the floats Dagmar, the use of the different tapes has worked extremely well, the details you have added to the floats is excellent.

Des.
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: PrzemoL on October 15, 2014, 06:37:02 PM
Top class modelling, Dagmar. The floats are immaculate. A pleasure to behold.
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on October 19, 2014, 05:07:10 PM
Dear colleagues,

Thank you very much for the positive feedback! Indeed, slowly but surely it is going to end up as a float plane!

Next, I paid attention to the engine. Nothing shocking except for spending a lot of time on the Roden version of the Mercedes before finally deciding it would never give me what I wanted. Enter the WNW version!

Did some detailing with plastic bits and copper wire...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_jqdDakJeLo/VENggDratII/AAAAAAAAAJA/nDrWPDouxXA/s800/Carburator.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IN19MXw4pmM/VENgfxXnSgI/AAAAAAAAAI8/2X8V1A6FG0U/s800/Valve%2520springs.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mHiOTE2aFDw/VENgfaz1wdI/AAAAAAAAAI4/1g8obuzu-Mg/s800/Engine.jpg)

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: radio on October 19, 2014, 07:26:45 PM
Looks like an exclusive engine.
Martin
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on October 19, 2014, 09:56:52 PM
Nice work on the springs and lifters! I am looking forward to seeing the engine painted.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: KitRookie37 on October 20, 2014, 04:26:00 AM
Hello to all,
I just discover your work, fantastic !!!!
I have to follow this story.  ;)
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 20, 2014, 05:21:17 AM
Hello Dagmar

This is so impressive. I'd never really considered having a crack at a W4 but seeing what you are achieving here makes me wish there were 26 hours in my day.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: stefanbuss on October 20, 2014, 05:35:47 PM
The floats look really impressive. It will be interesting to see how you will deal with attaching them.

Stefan
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Wolf on October 20, 2014, 07:54:33 PM
with every update, I am impressed more. Great work!
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: youngtiger1 on November 24, 2014, 11:32:22 AM
Wow, some nice work going on here and the photography is superb ;) I love aircrafts with pontoons and I'm hoping WnW will do more of them since my scratch build skills aren't like yours :)

Mike
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dric on November 24, 2014, 11:03:17 PM
Woaw it's a beautiful work. Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: Dagmar Henderickx on November 25, 2014, 02:21:29 AM
Dear colleagues,

After some unforeseen non-modeling time, I was finally able to get some things done.
But first of all, thank you Martin and Rick for your nice comments on the engine. Nigel, I would say, have a go at it before WNW does  ;) Concerning attaching the floats to the fuselage, Stefan, I think I will need a jig for it. Some ideas are already on paper, next the execution...
Alain, Wolf, Mike, Dric thanks a lot for your encouraging feedback!

So here is the current status: painting of the guns is done. First a thin coat of Tamiya XF-16 Flat Aluminium (which does not look smooth at all at first hand)...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-txHSnFa3DNs/VHNUcLI6aFI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/Azc0nbwuiD8/s800/Guns3.jpg)

...followed by a filter of Golden Airbrush Color Carbon Black, thinned with water to keep the metallic sheen. The small cushions are painted with acrylics and oils.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ojXR_4hxaKY/VHNUchoLJ9I/AAAAAAAAAKA/byNR_lBZi1s/s800/Guns2.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-517cPuLMzn8/VHNUdNfQnxI/AAAAAAAAAKE/WLRqsiIaNbE/s800/Guns.jpg)

Till next time,

Dagmar
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: RAGIII on November 25, 2014, 03:15:18 AM
The painting of the Machine Guns came out great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: radio on November 25, 2014, 03:39:36 AM
Very nice MG`s.
Martin
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: jeanluc maumejean on November 27, 2014, 08:39:54 AM
Excellent work for this spectacular Version
Title: Re: 1/32 Albatros W.4
Post by: fredjocko on February 27, 2021, 08:30:17 AM
Any update on this? Enquiring minds want to know or at least me...