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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => WW1 Aircraft Information/Questions => Topic started by: guitarlute101 on June 30, 2014, 04:15:59 AM
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Hi everyone,
Does anyone have confirmation if this post-war D.VII is an OAW, Fokker or Albatros manufactured aircraft?
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/guitarlute101/IMG_6606_zps711acba8.jpg)
Thanks for any help,
Mark
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i am almost positive thats a late fokker patterned cowl. the louver config know what i mean. the fokker d.viif if im not mistaken. the albatros late has less louvers and the oaw late has more.
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Thanks Scott,
I don't have an original picture so I can't confirm if the decal picture is correct.
Mark
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ah so you want to know if the d.vii with that marking was fokker,alb or oaw, the louvers in the art may not necessarily be the actual config. i want to say that dog scheme is in the d.vii anthology. i will check later when i get a chance and post tommorrow if i find anything.
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Hi Scott
Thanks for the post! Yes, that's the reason. I can't seem to find a picture of it in any of my references.
I've built a post-war Halberstadt Polizflieger and I'd like to build the D.VII to display with it.
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/guitarlute101/Halberstadt%20Cl%20iv/IMG_8824.jpg)
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/guitarlute101/Halberstadt%20Cl%20iv/IMG_8811.jpg)
Many thanks for any help,
Mark
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Mark,
My first thought for finding the Picture was the OLD Harleyford Fighter Aircraft of the 1914-1918 book. It is indeed pictured in the back section of the book. The downside is that the photo is so small and dark as to make it virtually impossible to tell any details. The only thing I can say is that the machine guns (SEEM) to be in the high mount location of a BMW engine DVII. I still think there is a better picture somewhere. Perhaps the Squadron in Action book which I sold long ago. I will keep digging.
RAGIII
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Many thanks Rick. I had the Harleyford book awhile back but I think I gave it away at some point. I appreciate your effort!
Mark
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I've looked through everything I have and can only find it in the In Action book where they say its a Fokker built bird. Looking on the net I cant find much of anything. It is an interesting looking marking though.
James
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Thanks James. I appreciate you looking into it for me.
Mark
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I've seen this somewhere and it's maddening not being able to find it again.
Hope someone comes up trumps for you Mark.
K
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i know i have seen this stylised dog head in one of my books but i cant find it as of yet. i remember specifically cuz its so unique and i remember going wow how cool. i just thought i wonder if its in one of the jasta 5 datafile specials?
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Hi Scott,
The only info the instructions give is that the aircraft is a "Fokker D.VII of Polizflieger Staffel, Post-WW1".
Mark
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mark, I couldn't remember if you were amongst the "Banned" on the Drome so I posted a question there. I will also look at the list as another source as I said in my PM.
RAGIII
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Thanks Rick. I've checked through all of my resources here on my end and have come up empty.
Mark
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I have somewhere in the house such a book.
http://kagero.pl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=199:fokker-d-vii-the-lethal-weapon&catid=94&Itemid=693&limitstart=0
But now I'm moving into a new flat and I would have to look for it.
If you do not know the book, I try to find something about this, but it may take some time
Adam.
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Thank you Adam!
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FOUND IT! In my half dog eaten copy of D.VII in action It states its a Fokker built plane flown by the Polizerflieger Staffeln in Paderhorn
BUT! its shown there as darker green and the doghead is red with yellow detail and a black outline. The starburst is Yellow. Quite different to the portrayal on the decal sheet. Which if either is right I've no idea.
Keith
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Thanks Keith! Were the colors stated in the description?
Mark
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I've found this online:
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/guitarlute101/261_1_zpsb9be5308.jpg)
I'm beginning to think there is no solid confirmation of the manufacturer or the colors so I might have to wing it.
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that's the pic out of the book I mentioned yes. I couldn't find a photo anywhere, maybe some one else has a copy as a lot of mine was doggilicios and I have a lot of half pages... :o
Of course the illustration is of a OAW D.VII to confuse the matter even more.
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that's the pic out of the book I mentioned yes. I couldn't find a photo anywhere, maybe some one else has a copy as a lot of mine was doggilicios and I have a lot of half pages... :o
Of course the illustration is of a OAW D.VII to confuse the matter even more.
I have the whole ("un-dog-edited") book and the side Profile above with caption is all there is on the machine. I KNOW I've seen a black and white sketch of this Logo somewhere with some commentary ................!!?? :( :-\
Cheers,
Lance
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that's the pic out of the book I mentioned yes. I couldn't find a photo anywhere, maybe some one else has a copy as a lot of mine was doggilicios and I have a lot of half pages... :o
Of course the illustration is of a OAW D.VII to confuse the matter even more.
I have the whole ("un-dog-edited") book and the side Profile above with caption is all there is on the machine. I KNOW I've seen a black and white sketch of this Logo somewhere with some commentary ................!!?? :( :-\
Cheers,
Lance
I have too Lance and it's infuriating I can't think where. :o
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Careful Keith, next we`ll be asking one another if our vehicle keys have shown up!! On the subject of missing info I`d be very grateful to hear your thoughts on the question I`ve posed just below this one regarding Sachsenberg`s yellow and black DVII. In the interim I`m going back to a couple of less common refs to see if I can find our elusive other photo of the dog logo. :P
Cheers, :)
Lance
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Thanks Lance and Keith!
Mark
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Mark, I am attaching a link to my enquirery on the Drome. If you cant access the link it basically says there is a picture in the Old Profile Pub on the DVII, Page 6.
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/camouflage-markings/61893-post-war-fokker-dvii-police-staffel.html
RAGIII
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Got it. Thanks Rick. :)
Mark
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There is a photograph in "Fokker DR1 and DVII in WW1" by H J Nowarra.
The white Fin and the Rudder cross and lack of visible lifting handle may point towards an OAW aircraft.
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Thanks Chip! The mystery continues.. :D
Mark
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idk in the decals illustration and the in action both show late fokker built louvers and i says fokker built on the caption. i am thinking fokker built late.
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I think that is what I'll go with Scott. I've seen a scan of the actual aircraft logo and it seems to be a really bright white instead of a dull yellow so I'm leaning towards believing the decals are correct too.
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/guitarlute101/dog2_zpsd024c217.jpg)
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Mark,
Check the link to the Drome. Someone posted the picture from the profile and the Nowarra book. Cinfirmed Fokker built and looks like the green is up for grabs. Cowl Panels removed. Fairly good pics.
RAGIII
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Now that's the clearest pictures I've seen. Thanks Rick!!
Mark
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Now that's the clearest pictures I've seen. Thanks Rick!!
Mark
No problem Mark. Glad the Drome still is useful in certain circumstances. There are Still some Good Guys there!
RAGIII
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Hi everyone,
Does anyone have confirmation if this post-war D.VII is an OAW, Fokker or Albatros manufactured aircraft?
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/guitarlute101/IMG_6606_zps711acba8.jpg)
Thanks for any help,
Mark
Hi Mark,
This is what RAGIII and the guys found over at the 'Drome:
(http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/attachments/camouflage-markings/28141d1404411259-post-war-fokker-dvii-police-staffel-dviipol.jpg)
From the old PROFILE PUBLICATIONS Fokker D.VII issue.
And this one:
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/attachments/camouflage-markings/28148d1404456637-post-war-fokker-dvii-police-staffel-profile-publications.jpg[/img]] (http://[img)
Cheers, Jay
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Thanks Jay!
I really appreciate everyone who has helped me with this search. Top notch guys all of you!
Mark
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Thanks Jay!
I really appreciate everyone who has helped me with this search. Top notch guys all of you!
Mark
You are very welcome Mark. :)
Keep us Posted. 8)
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Thanks Jay!
I really appreciate everyone who has helped me with this search. Top notch guys all of you!
Mark
You are very welcome Mark. :)
Keep us Posted. 8)
Same here Mark, it was my pleasure to help!
RAGIII
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I've collected everything I need I think. The Aviatik lozenge is awesome. I also picked up some new PE from Barry Berman who is a forum member. I think I'll be able to model this with the engine cowls opened up.
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/guitarlute101/Fokker%20D%20VII/IMG_6660_zps6c41f1fd.jpg)
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/guitarlute101/Fokker%20D%20VII/IMG_6662_zpsd8ad522a.jpg)
](http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/guitarlute101/Fokker%20D%20VII/02a314c8-7451-4a90-9bc6-eefbc14aaecc_zps847193f0.jpg)
Mark
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Oh Nice Mark.
Keep us updated.
Keith