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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Completed models => Topic started by: Bluesfan on June 29, 2014, 01:40:48 AM
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Just done - here's my interpretation of Mannock's SE5a D278.
It's been in my stash for a while. I was always going to tackle it, because Mannock is such a compelling character, and to my eyes the SE5 is one of the best looking fighters from the war. I well remember being struck by its rakish lines when as a boy I ventured forth on my first solo trip up to London, where to commemorate 50 years of the RAF, they'd assembled a remarkable collection of famous machines, right there on Horse Guards Parade, including the very handsome F938 which I assume is now at Hendon.
So why have I not built this kit before now? After all, isn't it a simple, sturdy design...? Indeed it is; but one of the reasons it was so sturdy was an extravagant use of rigging wire. Doubled up, what's more; I held off for a while.
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One hiccup late on was down to utter complacency. I didn't think twice about the markings, until accidentally discovering that the markings provided in the kit are a mix-up of markings from Mannock's machines from two different squadrons. Well, I was sure I wanted to build his 74 Sqn machine, so I looked up Pheon to see what they had, and they were indeed able to help me out ie. their SE5 Viper Aces in France set. I am aware there may be some speculative aspects here, but if one can't trust Rowan's research, then we're all lost :)
The figures are Kellerkind Miniatures' new 'Kameraden' offering. Very nice, I think. I'm no better a figure painter than I am a modeller, and wish I had found some painted examples to copy, but this will do for me. I performed one tiny bit of surgery, the removal of the pilot's moustache, which as far as I know Mannock never sported.
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I think well over half the time I spent on this kit was devoted to the various stages of rigging it. For starters, there are no less than ten instances of double wiring, including some of the control wires. I'm really pleased (should I say relieved?) at how it turned out. No, I didn't try to do turnbuckles, only because I can hardly see them where RAFwire is used. Sorry about my slack standards there!
I was more preoccupied with the six inspection windows. You may know that Roden, despite the generally good level of detail in this kit (and their others from their early 1/32 era), weirdly decided that bare unrealistic decals would do. So, I spent ages digging out pits, and installing a crude representation of pulleys etc. Maybe they're a bit so-so, but a whole lot better than if I hadn't. The control wires do actually wind round the pulleys and exit out to the control horns - probably pointless, since you can't really see that, but I get some masochistic satisfaction out of having bothered to go that far.
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Excellent modelling there and well worth the time taken to rig it. Looks every bit an SE and as you say, one of the more aesthetically pleasing machines from this period.
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Final pic! Pity that I can't quite sort out the colour balance - I used Misterkit PC10 and it's actually a little 'greener' than it appears in the pictures. Because of shooting by daylight I suppose.
Anyway, I'm very happy now. I try to improve my skills each time and I reckon I have, especially with the double wiring and the inspection windows. I wonder why WNW still haven't produced a direct-drive SE5a kit (ie. 'Viper' engined though in fact some had direct drive Hispanos I think). Deference to the existence of Roden's kit surely can't be the reason after all this time. One point is that many if not most of the more famous SE aces flew Viper machines.
Never mind. I prefer the look of the Viper machines. It's a subtle thing, but there's something cooler looking about the lower thrust line, and the more aggressive looking radiator. And of course this is partly about remembering Mannock, definitely worth reading up on if you never have.
Cheers
Mark
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Great job on the SE5, Bluesfan. Glad you got the decals sorted. I
like your little vignette, as well. Nicely done!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Wonderfully down , really nice job on the figure as well :) Thank-you for sharing with us :)
Terri
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For those who are interested in Mannock there is a memorial plaque to him in Canterbury cathedral - it is on the south wall of the nave towards the southwest door (where most visitors enter the building). Mannock was not a member of the aristocracy or from a wealthy local family (who are usually commemorated in the cathedral), but came from an ordinary Irish family. Most of the memorials to servicemen in the cathedral who were not officers or of aristocratic birth are in the form of regimental or group memorials, which makes Mannock's personal memorial exceptional, but then he was an exceptional pilot, not only because of his flying and shooting skills, but because of his care and concern for his men and his outstanding leadership skills.
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An excellent completion Mark - it does you proud, as does the modesty in your achievements.
A cracking model, a worthy tribute, and a sweet dioramic tale.
All told - pretty damn good by my book.
Marvellous.
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Brilliant work, Mark! Lovely vignette. You've inspired me to start one of my SE5a's.
Cheers,
Bud
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Many thanks for all the kind comments :) Much appreciated
I've just been admiring some other recent completed builds and can see I have much to aspire to!
Thanks also lone modeller for the info about his plaque in Canterbury. I gather his father was a Scottish soldier who abandoned his family when Edward was young. Mannock was a telephone engineer before the war and was working in Turkey when the war started; he nearly died while in Turkish confinement, before being sent home. Yes, a remarkable leader of men; to my mind one of the very many bright lights we lost to the war.
Mark
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A very nicely finished model and I agree that the S.E.5a was one of the best looking fighters of the war.
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Your Roden SE5a is really great.
You also done a good job in getting the cowling on - I had trouble getting mine on both the Hisso and Viper version.
Regards
Dave
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Brilliant work, Mark! Lovely vignette. You've inspired me to start one of my SE5a's.
Cheers,
Bud
I agree with Bud, Brilliant. Funny thing is I had already decided ,sort of, to change my next build from the WNW Pup to the Encore Hisso SE. Mine will be finished as McCuddens bird of course.
Beautiful work,
RAGIII
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Beautiful work on your SE.5a Mark, the overall finish is excellent and you did a superb job with the rigging, well done. BTW, your figure painting skills are quite good :)
Des.
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Thanks again for the comments :)
Yes Dave, the cowling is definitely tricky. One has to fit a complete engine; but there are still those little bits sticking out of holes at the top. I risked gluing those after putting the cowling on. If you look closely, I lost one of them inside. The fitting of the cowling is often one of the tensest parts of construction isn't it? The glue is drying fast, and you don't have the option of leaving it to walk around for a breather...
I forgot to mention, this was the first time I have made use of Wonder Wire (ceramic material). Generally I use monofilament, and prefer to drill right through wings etc. in the course of getting things taut. But it's not quite so easy with the bracing wires between the outer struts. So I tried out the Wonder Wire, and it was beautifully neat. You may be able to see that it's indistinguishable from the rest of the rigging. It's impressive how it keeps its stiffness. It needs care in cutting to length, and it's not easy to get hold of in the first place. But I'll be using it more often in awkward spots.
Cheers
Mark
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Nicely done, dittos to all the above.
Ed
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Hello Blues Fan:
Outstanding work on this kit. I have this kit as well and Mannock's a/c is what I am going to build. Thanks for the heads up about the markings, I wouldn't have known and would have trusted Roden. I too think the SE5 was one of the meanest looking allied a/c and you captured its mean look. The figure is pretty cool as well. It certainly adds a bit of scale and life to the vignette. Your carving of the pulley windows adds that extra touch and depth vice the two dimensional decals.
Thanks for posting.
Best
Mark
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Brilliant work, Mark! Lovely vignette. You've inspired me to start one of my SE5a's.
Cheers,
Bud
I agree with Bud, Brilliant. Funny thing is I had already decided ,sort of, to change my next build from the WNW Pup to the Encore Hisso SE. Mine will be finished as McCuddens bird of course.
Beautiful work,
RAGIII
Encore's SE.5a kit is really very good indeed, loads of resin & PE added to the basic Roden kit.
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More kind words, thanks again;
Whatever my standard of modelling, I love the problem solving aspect, and of course Roden kits are fab for that ;) These inspection windows were a major challenge for me. I actually had a go first in 1/72 scale, on the Roden SE5a Hispano kit. Of course the gouged out pits are hopelessly shallow. My approach there was to 'suggest' the pulley and cable details with tiny brush strokes. Then I tried filling them with superglue IIRC. Another time I might try that stuff you can get for 1/144 airliner windows, I forget the brand name. Anyway, as for this first 1/32 effort (and for one or two 1/48 kits which will need similar attention), I'm pleased and think I can improve the technique. I know many suggest cutting all the way through the wing but, I dunno, I just didn't fancy the restoration job which would be needed afterwards.
Thanks Mark. I would spend time on your references as regards the markings. I have the impression there may not be much photographic evidence of the whole aircraft. While putting a Mannock 'history sheet' together (the whole project is part of a series I'm doing for my nephew, and I'm keen to tell the human story as much as show off the machines), I found several paintings of this particular machine, and none of them agreed on the style and placement of the markings. As I say, stick with Rowan! :)
Ah, the Encore kit: I'm just starting on their Blue Max kit, which has an impressive set of parts. It includes a resin improvement on the engine, which I won't be using, but should be a nice upgrade for the standard Roden Pfalz when I get round to that... I look forward to seeing your build of McCudden's SE, Dekenba!
Mark